brentkruge: Abegi. Its delusional to assume that natural disasters must be a form of punishment. What of Katrina and other storms, forest fires, earth quakes etc that happened in America in the last 50 years. Were those punishments too?

What of this years flooding in about 10 states in Nigeria just this year. Are we being punished too?

Believe what you can if it makes you feel good.

brentkruge: Abegi. Its delusional to assume that natural disasters must be a form of punishment. What of Katrina and other storms, forest fires, earth quakes etc that happened in America in the last 50 years. Were those punishments too?

What of this years flooding in about 10 states in Nigeria just this year. Are we being punished too?

Believe what you can if it makes you feel good.

LagosShia:

It would be nice to know from those who ask for Allah's punishment when would they be convinced it is actually divine punishment and they should desist from their evil ways?is it till the ocean submerges the entire US and turns canada into an island on its own cut off from continental america?when would it be enough to make the U-turn?

I am not concluding that Sandy was punishment or not.I'm simply seeking the opinion of others especially the haters.

Holy Quran 46:22
"They said: Have you come to us to turn us away from our gods; then bring us what you threaten us with, if you are of the truthful ones".

Holy Quran 40:81-85
"And He shows you (always) His Signs: then which of the Signs of Allah will ye deny? Do they not travel through the earth and see what was the End of those before them? They were more numerous than these and superior in strength and in the traces (they have left) in the land: Yet all that they accomplished was of no profit to them. For when their apostles came to them with Clear Signs, they exulted in such knowledge (and skill) as they had; but that very (Wrath) at which they were wont to scoff hemmed them in. But when they saw Our Punishment, they said: "We believe in Allah,- the one Allah - and we reject the partners we used to join with Him." But their professing the Faith when they (actually) saw Our Punishment was not going to profit them. (Such has been) Allah.s Way of dealing with His Servants (from the most ancient times). And even thus did the Rejecters of Allah perish (utterly)"!

Mee234: You are pathetic. People are faced with challeng you are here quoting Koran and supposing that it is a punishment from allah. When people say Islam is inherently violent and wicked you say not true. Most of the anti Islamic sentiments are born out of such a mind set as yours

LagosShia:
It would be nice to know from those who ask for Allah's punishment when would they be convinced it is actually divine punishment and they should desist from their evil ways?is it till the ocean submerges the entire US and turns canada into an island on its own cut off from continental america?when would it be enough to make the U-turn?

fellis:

Shut up!
The fools saying Islam is inherently wicked should look towards their disgusting Bible that encourages genocidal attacks against innocent people, including unborn babies.




LagosShia,
If the hurricane was a punishment for the anti-Islamic film, don't you think it would have happened in the parts of the United States where the film was produced or the parts where the producers live?

I mean Hurricane Sandy happened in Northeastern parts of the USA and the anti-Islamic film was produced in California; which is in the Western part of USA..............

fellis:
LagosShia,
If the hurricane was a punishment for the anti-Islamic film, don't you think it would have happened in the parts of the United States where the film was produced or the parts where the producers live?

I mean Hurricane Sandy happened in Northeastern parts of the USA and the anti-Islamic film was produced in California; which is in the Western part of USA..............

LagosShia:

Fellis,

I never said it is punishment.here is what I earlier said:

"I am not concluding that Sandy was punishment or not.I'm simply seeking the opinion of others especially the haters".

Now under the assumption it is punishment and to answer your question,I would say the hurricane hit the center of american supremacy which is new york,which is also closer to washington DC.also I think the pentagon is in that region.

fellis:

LagosShia, ( )

I understand that you were not declaring that it is certainly a punishment.
I get that.
I had to ask you the question because I didn't fathom why you were quoting Quranic verses that spoke about punishment.



The Muslims in New York that suffered because of the hurricane were also being punished?

Paris-Love:
SMH4muslims.

*walks out on thread*

Paris-Love:
SMH4muslims.

*walks out on thread*

brentkruge: LagosShia and co

Y'all should tell me for what is Iran being purnished?



- 300 dead and 1,500 injured in August 2012 earthquake?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/12/us-iran-earthquake-idUSBRE87A08N20120812



- 26,000 dead and 30,000 injured in the City of Bam Southeastern Iran in December 26, 2003

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Bam_earthquake

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3348613.stm



- 1990 Manjil-Rudbar earthquake Northwest Iran - 100,000 houses sustained major damage or collapsed, 40,000 dead, and 60,000 injured. 500,000 people homeless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Manjil-Rudbar_earthquake

http://bssa.geoscienceworld.org/content/82/4/1726.abstract




Chei, Iranians must be doing some real bad things for these punishing earthquakes.
Was it worse than what the Americans did?

Iranian cleric: Promiscuity, sin cause earthquakes but God may be holding his fire

Ali Akbar Dareini, The Associated Press  May 14, 2010 09:06:27 AM

TEHRAN, Iran - A prominent hard-line Iranian cleric who said promiscuity and immodest dress cause earthquakes says God may be holding off on natural disasters in the West in order to let people sin more and consign themselves to hell.

Kazem Sedighi sparked widespread derision with his pronouncements in a prayer sermon last month linking earthquakes with women's dress. In a new sermon Friday, he has defended and elaborated on his claim.

Sedighi notes that some might ask why there aren't more earthquakes and storms striking Western nations that are "up to their necks" in immorality.

He says the answer is that God allows some of those who "provoke His wrath" to continue sinning "so that they (eventually) go to the bottom of Hell."

http://www.news1130.com/news/world/article/55019--iranian-cleric-promiscuity-sin-cause-earthquakes-but-god-may-be-holding-his-fire

LagosShia:

This is no competition.we have stated we don't know for sure what reason is behind the hurricane.it could be punishment,test/trial,environmental factors,etc.but we are simply asking the haters who wanted Allah (swt) to reveal His wrath to take note.

But to demonstrate to you that muslims are not hypocrites,I will present to you the opinion of a cleric (even though a hardliner) explaining natural disasters.you can also add the tsunami in south east asia which affected muslim countries.it is not like if muslims do bad,God won't judge them.Islam is clear for all to see and God will judge us all.

Iranian cleric: Promiscuity, sin cause earthquakes but God may be holding his fire

Ali Akbar Dareini, The Associated Press  May 14, 2010 09:06:27 AM

TEHRAN, Iran - A prominent hard-line Iranian cleric who said promiscuity and immodest dress cause earthquakes says God may be holding off on natural disasters in the West in order to let people sin more and consign themselves to hell.

Kazem Sedighi sparked widespread derision with his pronouncements in a prayer sermon last month linking earthquakes with women's dress. In a new sermon Friday, he has defended and elaborated on his claim.

Sedighi notes that some might ask why there aren't more earthquakes and storms striking Western nations that are "up to their necks" in immorality.

He says the answer is that God allows some of those who "provoke His wrath" to continue sinning "so that they (eventually) go to the bottom of Hell."

http://www.news1130.com/news/world/article/55019--iranian-cleric-promiscuity-sin-cause-earthquakes-but-god-may-be-holding-his-fire

LagosShia:

I'm very glad to see you speechless!

fellis:

I didn't even see this post before.
Mtschew.
If you like shake your head, you better shake your head for your fellow confused Christians instead of Muslims.

Paris-Love:
Look at this Shia kafir. Wonders shall never end

Lol talking about confusion it's you and your fellow muslims that are confused whether H.sandy is the hand work of Allah or not. Just like your confused about everything in islam. Muslimah's own is worse, they're confused and 'deficient in intelligence and the result = majority of them in hell.

Still SMH4muslims

fellis:

@bold,
Continue shaking your head until it falls off. Shake it very well, you hear?

And by the way you can keep quoting Hadiths wrongly and out of context to support your useless points.
Obviously, all these years of reading your self contradictory and dishonest Bible has made you a dishonest person as well.

WI love proving that man wrong. See this one is learning fast from his muslim brothers coming up with silly and lame of excuses of quoting hadiths out of context or wrong ones though that's premature as i haven't quoted anything

still and obviously taking a cheap shot at the bible when cornered.

Anyway i don't wanna derail this thread, just carry on with whatever thing you muslims are doing here albeit how pathetic it is.

Have a nice day

Paris-Love:


Anyway i don't wanna derail this thread,