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Who Created Satan? by staggerman(m): 3:23pm On Nov 04, 2012
Most Christians believe the answer to that question is obvious: “God created Satan.” But that is not really true. God created Lucifer. That may seem like a small distinction at first glance, but once you understand who really made Satan, it will change your perspective of him forever.

You will never again doubt your authority over the devil. You will realize that he is an inferior being, unable to do anything without the cooperation of a human being. And any fear you have of him will disappear as you realize he is nothing but a big zero with the rim knocked off.

I believe that God created everything, including Lucifer. He created Lucifer as a powerful anointed angel. However, Lucifer wasn’t satisfied with that, and he didn’t remain the anointed cherub that God created him to be.

Ezekiel 28:13-14 describe him as he originally was in the Garden of Eden:

“Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.”

Most people believe that Lucifer took one-third of the angels and rebelled against God in heaven, where he was defeated and then cast to earth. This is all taken from one scripture, in Revelation 12:4, and was popularized by Finis Dake in the Dake’s Bible commentary. I don’t believe that is what actually happened.

I believe that Satan was originally on this earth in the Garden of Eden as Lucifer. He was God’s number one angel sent to earth to be a blessing to Adam and Eve.

Hebrews 1:14 says this about angels:

“Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”

Lucifer wasn’t sent to the earth to tempt Adam and Eve but to bless them. He was an angelic being sent to be their protector, to minister to them, and to serve them. He was there on a divine mission, still in his perfect state. It was in the Garden that his transgression against God was conceived and carried out.

Ezekiel 28:15 goes on to say,

“Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.”

I have never been able to follow the logic that God sent Satan to earth to tempt man and see how he would respond. As a father, would you take your two-year-old child and put him or her in a cage with a lion just to see how he or she would respond? That would obviously be irresponsible; the child would be no match for the lion. God wouldn’t do that to us, and he didn’t do that to Adam and Eve.

So, what made Lucifer turn against God? Lucifer watched as God did something for man that He had never done with any other of His creation. When God created man, not only was he made in the very image of God, but he was then given unconditional authority over this earth.

Genesis 1:26 says,

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”

He didn’t say to them, “Now as long as you follow my leading and as long as you do what I want you to do, I will let you have dominion over the earth.” There was zero qualification for this power and authority. God spoke it and that was it.

God says in Psalm 89:34,

“My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.”

In Hebrews 1:3 it says,

“Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high” (emphasis mine).

What this is saying is that God cannot lie; it’s the integrity of His Word that holds the entire universe together. Unlike human beings who reserve the right to change their minds, God will not violate His Word. When He told Adam and Eve they had dominion, authority, and power to subdue and rule, it was done.

Lucifer understood the integrity of God’s words, and when he heard this, I believe his antenna went up. He saw that Adam and Eve had something he wanted but didn’t have: They had unconditional authority. In a way, they had been made the gods of this world; it was theirs to rule and subdue.

We read in Psalm 115:16,

“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD’S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.”

Even though Lucifer may have been God’s number one angel, he still wanted more. He was jealous and envious; he actually wanted to take God’s place.

In Isaiah 14:13 it says,

“For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north.”

The next verse says,

“I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.”

Lucifer understood that if he could deceive Adam and Eve into willingly relinquishing their authority to him that he could become the god of this world. He could take the authority that was given to mankind, use it to thwart the kingdom of God, and receive the praise and adoration and glory he wanted.

Romans 6:16 says this,

“Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?”

So, who made Satan? We did! The moment Adam and Eve yielded to Lucifer, he became Satan, the god of this world. You might be thinking, But Satan deceived them. Shouldn’t God have stopped him?

Read 1 Timothy 2:14:

“And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”

Adam knew what he was doing.

I believe the moment Lucifer transgressed against God, he lost his angelic power. Satan now has no power or authority of his own; he only has what he has been able to deceive people into giving him. Now, that is a powerful statement.

Think about what that means to you as a believer. When we are resisting the devil and fighting against him, Satan does not have a superior power or authority. He is absolutely dependent upon the cooperation of a human being who will empower him with the authority God gave them.

Satan is going about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. He is looking for people who will open the door through things like lust, rebellion, strife, unforgiveness, fear, and more. When we yield to those things, we are empowering him to destroy us, and I guarantee you, given the opportunity, he will eat your lunch and pop the bag.

http://www.awmi.net/extra/article/made_satan
Re: Who Created Satan? by Jutheone: 3:52pm On Nov 04, 2012
Enlightening... God bless u.
Re: Who Created Satan? by staggerman(m): 4:01pm On Nov 04, 2012
Jutheone: Enlightening... God bless u.

You too are blessed.... We all need to be free from the false teachings that have held the Sons of God in bondage.
Re: Who Created Satan? by Callotti: 4:21pm On Nov 04, 2012
Haba!
Wey my post? grin
Re: Who Created Satan? by miomonio: 4:22pm On Nov 04, 2012
staggerman:

Adam knew what he was doing.

http://www.awmi.net/extra/article/made_satan

You are probably not the best to ask since you werent the author but staggerman what exactly is it that Adam was doing that he knew i.e. when he was taking, eating and ate the fruit.
By the way I ate plantain with that your post about or on "Renew your thoughts".
Said to myself "Shoki lobe ooge"
Kept simple short and skirted almost all areas.
It is actually all about the Ps.
Re: Who Created Satan? by Sirniyeh(m): 4:44pm On Nov 04, 2012
Hun un un, i don come again. I always find myself amused when i see people quoting satan story. Well, it is a pity that many people are ignorant of the true knowledge of life. That is why most pastors dribble una like olympic ball. What is the meaning of satan? Is satan a personality? Have the whole world ever benefitted from satan? Who is satan?
I shall get back to you now. Let me answer the nature's call
Re: Who Created Satan? by staggerman(m): 4:50pm On Nov 04, 2012
miomonio:

You are probably not the best to ask since you werent the author but staggerman what exactly is it that Adam was doing that he knew i.e. when he was taking, eating and ate the fruit.
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Adam was not forced nor coerced to eat of the tree. Lucifer did not convince Adam to eat from the tree. Eve convinced Adam to eat from it.
Adam had received instruction from God concerning the fruit of the tree. Adam listened to his wife and disobeyed, having full knowledge of the consequences.
Just as Esau knew what would happen when he accepted to trade his birthright for a meal.

When Job's wife tried to convince him to curse God and die, he refused. Job knew the consequence of such action just as Adam knew the consequence of his action. But Job didn't allow his wife to deceive him, unlike Adam.
Re: Who Created Satan? by staggerman(m): 4:53pm On Nov 04, 2012
miomonio:


By the way I ate plantain with that your post about or on "Renew your thoughts".
Said to myself "Shoki lobe ooge"
Kept simple short and skirted almost all areas.
It is actually all about the Ps.

Don't really understand what you are trying to say.
Re: Who Created Satan? by miomonio: 5:35pm On Nov 04, 2012
staggerman:

Adam was not forced nor coerced to eat of the tree. Lucifer did not convince Adam to eat from the tree. Eve convinced Adam to eat from it.
Adam had received instruction from God concerning the fruit of the tree. Adam listened to his wife and disobeyed, having full knowledge of the consequences.
Just as Esau knew what would happen when he accepted to trade his birthright for a meal.

When Job's wife tried to convince him to curse God and die, he refused. Job knew the consequence of such action just as Adam knew the consequence of his action. But Job didn't allow his wife to deceive him, unlike Adam.

@staggerman Of course Adam had full knowledge and knew the consequence of taking the action.

Which is why by virtue of deduction, we knew it was him that told Eve that merely touching, not eating the fruit which was what God said, but that merely touch it will make one die.

Now, for a man to go that length, go over the top and overboard to make an attempt to dissuade someone, Eve, from eating the fruit, to now willfully take and eat the fruit, then, he must know something or was on to something and so definitely knew what he was doing.

Why did a man of power, love and sound mind, Adam, commit suicide, intentionally kill himself? Why did Adam voluntarily and intentionally take his own life?

Why did he eat the fruit?

Bushidō? I think not, no honor left after Eve ate to keep intact.

To die the death for Eve's sake? Because he fell short of his responsibilty?

First Adam wrong, bad death. Last Adam right good death.

I thought you were privy to the motive(s). Not many people are privy to why Adam ate the fruit. It is something that most people don't know or think about. I thought the author or you knew and wanted to share
Re: Who Created Satan? by miomonio: 5:44pm On Nov 04, 2012
miomonio:

By the way I ate plantain with that your post about or on "Renew your thoughts".
Said to myself "Shoki lobe ooge"
Kept simple short and skirted almost all areas.
It is actually all about the Ps.

staggerman:

Don't really understand what you are trying to say.

@staggerman It doesn't matter if you dont understand, it is a lighthearted statement, any Yoruba can translate.
The Ps are the Principle, Person, Partnership, Prince, Power, Protege, Priesthood-Priest, Prophecy-Prophet etc etc.
Re: Who Created Satan? by yah1(m): 5:47pm On Nov 04, 2012
God bless you poster. Now where is that italo?

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