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A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 10:46am On Nov 06, 2012 |
As a young Christian I have really (and I mean REALLY) been struggling with this "eternal torture" concept. Now that I am reading the Bible myself more I do see these scriptures that support "eternal death" rather than eternal torture. It's just that there are quite a few people who actually attack this belief and INSIST that hell just has to be a place of never-ending torture. |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 11:01am On Nov 06, 2012 |
^^^^^ Ladies and Gentlemen, the above story is precisely what irks me with the false teachers who keep propagating falsehoods and thereby shutting millions out of the kingdom of GOD. Truly I say , they have a lot to answer for on the day of judgement. |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 11:45am On Nov 06, 2012 |
Nice article! Where are those eternal torture preachers? This kind of falsehood is why some christians are atheists today! Smh* Scripture says: Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 2 Likes |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Snowwy: 12:15pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
Frosbel, I am yet to understand what you are trying to prove by your comment after the write-up. Are you saying, therefore, that any one that tells the consequences of sin being hell-fire and eternal damnation are 'false' teachers? Or you mean Jesus and Paul never said anything about hell? Do you mean there was nowhere stated in the NT of the consequences of a life of sin? God gives everyone 'a long rope to pull' as He does not take pleasure in anyone perishing but calls all to repentance and that is why He has given the free gift of His Son, Jesus Christ. God is not wicked, He is just but He cannot BEHOLD EVIL!!!!! His Son acts as this shield to the evil of the world as long as we trust in Him and live by His grace and shun evil practices, so I think the lady just needs proper education, simple. |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 12:22pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
Snowwy: Frosbel, Let us stick to the bible for a moment. The wages of sin is DEATH. No one is undermining the seriousness of sin, in fact it was SIN that brought death to mankind , death was never God's will or intention for mankind. Sin has also brought with it untold misery, pain and anguish of spirit. As we speak many are suffering the consequences of their sin and for those who have not , there is a day of judgement and punishment. The gospel is repent or perish, not repent or be eternally tormented. Let us stick with the bible and throw away tradition. |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Snowwy: 12:31pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
frosbel: Frosbel, I have come to realise that when people have any issue with something that is in the bible that they do not believe and it something held for a long while they call it 'tradition'. As usual, Frosbel claims I should stick to the bible and throw away tradition. What does perish mean to you? Bible says that for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that whoever believes in Him should NOT PERISH but have everlasting life. Does the perish you see here mean physical death or spiritual death? I know you have heard of the Second death, what does that mean to you? Read Revelation 20:14-15. If the lake of fire is the second death and those whose names are not found in the book of life are thrown into it, is that not perishing and eternal torment? I can see you now want to start preaching a message of repent or you perish here on earth only. |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 12:34pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
Definition of perish verb [no object] 1 literary die, especially in a violent or sudden way: a great part of his army perished of hunger and disease suffer complete ruin or destruction: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/perish |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Snowwy: 12:36pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
frosbel: Definition of perish Simple question Frosbel, does perish in the bible mean physical death or eternal death? |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 1:01pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
Snowwy: The English bible was translated from Latin, Greek and Hebrew, using words and terms that closely and more accurately reflected the intent of the authors and meaning of words from the original languages. Not sure why you are now attempting to redefine the English language to fit into your 'lovely' eternal torment doctrine. In the bible perish means perish and death means death. |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by desireexo(f): 1:08pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
frosbel the first thing you should know is that we humans have a choice...there is heaven and there is hell, the choice is ours..u either choose heaven or hell. It is not your obligation to feel sorry for the sinners or those your friends. Dont discriminate if not you'll be like the scribes and pharisees. treat them well, tell them the truth, if they do not accept, pray to God concerning it, and leave the rest to him. Wiv this God would not hold you accountable for their souls or the good you could have done but didnt.. above all....live an exemplary lifestyle.."let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your father who is in heaven". heaven=eternal bliss hell=eternal torment and torture forever and ever |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Snowwy: 1:10pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
frosbel: Simply put, when the bible says that a person will die/perish because he sins and did not repent, you Frosbel, using the oxford dictionary terms that to mean he just dies in his body? That is his final consequence, right? Just physical death. *Amazing* Wish you luck in your new-age religion. |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 1:13pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
Snowwy: Man is a living soul and a mortal one at that. When he dies he is dead , waiting for the final resurrection and judgement. If after the judgement he is not found worthy of eternal life aka immortality , he will be condemned to an eternal death in the lake of fire. I advice that you consider this TRUTH and desist from misrepresenting the character of GOD. 1 Like |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 1:14pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
Snowwy: What he meant was 'second death'. That's to die eternally not to be tortured eternally like what Sis desiree wrote up there! |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 1:16pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
desiree_xo: Wrong, read your bible again ! |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Snowwy: 1:25pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
frosbel: Frosbel, You are funny, I am not surprised that you have turned it to 'misrepresenting the character of God' now since all you have quoted so far is the Oxford dictionary. I leave you with this from the words of the saviour: Luke 13:3: 'I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish' It is left to you to decide what that means...from the bible of course. Cheers. |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Snowwy: 1:27pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
seriallink: No one 'dies' eternally. Read the very scripture I quoted from revelation 20:14-15. The second death is the Lake of fire and that in itself is eternal torment. Christianity is not a walk in the park...you have the opportunity to live right now and repent when you sin, do not wait till after death, I beg of you. |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by ijawkid(m): 1:29pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
Snowwy: Will ""DEATH"" and ""hell"" also be tormented?? |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 1:45pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
Snowwy: Your post is very funny! You got the wrong guy bro. Go back and read your bible very well! Are you saying God will give sinners eternal life in hell? They will not die but live in hell for eternity ![]() |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Snowwy: 2:02pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
seriallink: We can see who has not been reading their bibles. Read Revelation 14:9-11, Revelation 20:10 If that is not enough for you to understand we are not here for child's play then I cannot help you. Nice day. |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 3:20pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
GREAT TOPIC AND I SEE THE HEAVYWEIGHTS DUKING IT OUT. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT A DIFFERENCE IN OPINION WILL NOT SEND YOU TO HELL. THE LORD IS HAPPY THAT WE ARE SHARPENING EACH OTHER BY DEBATING OUR CAUSES WITH EACH OTHER. IT IS A HOLY THING TO DEBATE WITH EACH OTHER ON GODS WORDS PROVERBS 27 VS 17 As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another PROVERBS 25 VS 9 Debate your cause with your neighbor himself 1 Like |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by ijawkid(m): 3:32pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
Snowwy: You still have not answered if ""death"" and hell"" will be tormented too..... |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 5:19pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
ijawkid: they are more obsessed with torment and less interested in the gospel of LOVE. 2 Likes |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 5:20pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
ijawkid:IJAWKID MAN NO SEE YA BREAKLIGHT SEF, WETIN DEY SHELE ? ABI YOU DONE GO APOSTATE ![]() ![]() |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by ijawkid(m): 5:26pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
obadiah777: IJAWKID MAN NO SEE YA BREAKLIGHT SEF, WETIN DEY SHELE ? ABI YOU DONE GO APOSTATE Hahaahahahahahahaha...... I dey o..... E be like na you go hide some where wey man no fit take. I see you.... Abi some heathens don capture you??....lol 1 Like |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 5:32pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
ijawkid: How can Buzugee be captured by heathens. I heard that he had been caputring heathens and re-educating them. There was this guy that became a born again christian. He was a heathen but after being taken to Buzugee's After being tied to a cross, being flogged and forced to memorize bible passages, the heathen learnt that Jesus suffered for him. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 5:35pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
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Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 5:50pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
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Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by ijawkid(m): 5:50pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
Logicboy03: Lmao..... Logicboy you no well @ all...... Then you better not let buzugee meet you one on one.....lol.... 1 Like |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 5:51pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
After Buzugee aka Obadiah told me about his conversion plans for me, I stopped preaching atheism near him. His methods are 100% effective. ![]() Dont you wonder how American slaves all became christians after? 3 Likes |
Re: A Young Christian Lady's Torment On HELL. by Nobody: 5:55pm On Nov 06, 2012 |
ijawkid:HE ALREADY KNOW. WHEN I MEET AM HIM GO SABI SAY KHAKI NO BE LEATHER. I COME WITH 10 WELL MUSCLED BRETHRENS TO HOLD HIM DOWN, A NICE JUICY KOBOKO TO FLOG THE LEGION OF DEMONS OUT OF HIM AND THEN A KJV BIBLE TO PUT IN A NEW RESIDENT WHERE THE LEGIONS HAVE VACATED ![]() 1 Like |
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