advocate666: And these are only the ones we know about.
It could even be less than 0.000001% of the universe.
And also assuming there is only one "universe".

Imagine: what if our universe is just one tiny dot in a cluster of multitidude of others universes?
What if this multiverse cluster is one amongst many, and so on.
The reality is that our knowledge of our surrounding are so limited that we can only imagine.

Thanks for those reality check pictures.

Richfella: @ Area_boy

On the surface, the pictures above clearly show in black and white how tiny we are, compared to several celestial objects around us.

HOWEVER, size is not a function of value. Is a full-grown elephant more valuable than a suckling infant?

The biggest of those bodies, your Antares, does it posses any awareness? Does it have intelligence? Can it investigate other bodies around it?

Man's absolute dominance of Earth is a testament to attributes which have absolutely nothing too do with mass.

Finally, if you just think about it, those comparative pictures actually highlight how mighty we are as humans .

ROSSIKE:

You're in denial.

OF COURSE the extremely tiny size of earth (ie our world) in relation to the universe(s) must indicate to any rational person that the likelihood of us being in any way ''unique'' or uniquely endowed with intelligent life is ZERO.

ROSSIKE:

You're in denial.

OF COURSE the extremely tiny size of earth (ie our world) in relation to the universe(s) must indicate to any rational person that the chance of us being in any way ''unique'' or uniquely endowed with intelligent life is statistically ZERO.

ROSSIKE: ^^You're welcome. I also believe that once we 'die' we regain our 'spirit' bodies and can tour to any part of this vast universe and witness the various forms of life and civilization out there. Right now we are encumbered by our being in human bodies, as well as being limited to a five-sense reality.

inurmind: This brings forth another question:

If god created all these outrageously huge things, why would he stoop to handling the affairs of little common men like us, trying to prove his power by fighting a tiny bunch of egyptians?

Does that even make sense? That I rule the world and have all the power there is, but will stoop as low as to exchange punches with a drunk village man?

mazaje:

Or fighting along side men and unable to defeat some of them because they had iron chariots. Imagine the same god running away because he was afraid men will build a tower that will reach up to him in the sky so he "confused their tongue". . .Imagine and educated and intelligent people believe all the myths. . .Na wah. . .

Mind you, none of these were mentioned in any of the "holy" books.
Take a few seconds.. relax and marvel at our galaxy. Everything you see is contained in our milky way galaxy alone. except of course the last picture

Image123:
This is nonsense talk by the way, the above quote,that is.
the scriptures plainly teaches the insignificance of man and of the earth. And its the very reason why God can and will easily punish mankind for all of eternity. Atheists usually think man as the big deal the real deal whom God should not and cannot punish in hell fire. Hear the scriptures and take away your eyes from insignificant pictures.

Psa 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
Job 25:6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?

Psa 144:3 LORD, what is man, that thou takest knowledge of him! or the son of man, that thou makest account of him!
Isa 40:15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.

Isa 40:17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isa 40:18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?

Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

Psa 62:9 Surely men of low degree are vanity, and men of high degree are a lie: to be laid in the balance, they are altogether lighter than vanity.

Job 9:12 Behold, he taketh away, who can hinder him? who will say unto him, What doest thou?

Psa 115:3 But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.

The Spirit of God, who formed all things knew all these things before. That's why it is grace and unmerited favour that makes us significant before God. Sinners remain insignificant even though they may forever play the pity card, or the God is immoral card.

10 Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

11 He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.

12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?

13 Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him?

14 With whom took he counsel, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and shewed to him the way of understanding?

15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.

16 And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering.

17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.

18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?

19 The workman melteth a graven image, and the goldsmith spreadeth it over with gold, and casteth silver chains.

20 He that is so impoverished that he hath no oblation chooseth a tree that will not rot; he seeketh unto him a cunning workman to prepare a graven image, that shall not be moved.

inurmind: This brings forth another question:

If god created all these outrageously huge things, why would he stoop to handling the affairs of little common men like us, trying to prove his power by fighting a tiny bunch of egyptians?

Does that even make sense? That I rule the world and have all the power there is, but will stoop as low as to exchange punches with a drunk village man?

Area_boy:

mate, I hope you are not serious. All you are doing here is confirming the god of the gaps idea.


I didn't even bother with all of them cos I know you guys are kingpins when it comes to out of context readings. when you read a text out of context to fortify your position, you have to realise that some other people might actually read it in context.

i"ll start from verse ten of your Isaiah text.. context context context


using fancy colours when you write doesn't make you correct

Richfella: @ Area_boy

On the surface, the pictures above clearly show in black and white how tiny we are, compared to several celestial objects around us.

HOWEVER, size is not a function of value. Is a full-grown elephant more valuable than a suckling infant?

The biggest of those bodies, your Antares, does it posses any awareness? Does it have intelligence? Can it investigate other bodies around it?

Man's absolute dominance of Earth is a testament to attributes which have absolutely nothing too do with mass.

Finally, if you just think about it, those comparative pictures actually highlight how mighty we are as humans .

Area_boy: I have a couple of pictures to give you a little perspective of how tiny and infinitesimal we are when it comes to the grand scale of things in the universe.

So before you go around saying we were "created in his image and likeness", put here to take care of the earth for "him" and then be judged on how we do it before returning back to heaven, I want you to consider the following pictures and ask yourself. WHY bother with so much else?

Mind you, none of these were mentioned in any of the "holy" books.
Take a few seconds.. relax and marvel at our galaxy. Everything you see is contained in our milky way galaxy alone. except of course the last picture


lets start from the smallest shall we? Although it is important to point out that pluto is no longer a planet. However, we can replace that with our moon since they are no much bigger than themselves, prolly 1/2

At this point, our little planet is still pulling its weight around the "big boys" or should i say the "rocky boys". Or is it?



welcome to the world of gas. With no solid surface to stand on, these balls of gas find it easier getting so big because well, gas expands and contracts much better than earth (rock) does

As big as they seem, compare them to our sun (the major gas giant we have in our solar system) and they are immediately puny in size

can u see us there?


Our sun is really big!! 90million kilometers away from us and 1.3million kilometers in diameter, it is BIG!!! But how does she measure up with some other biggies around the block? Not very well i'm afraid

That monster Arcturus is the 4th brightest star you see at night. Right behind Sirius (since Sirius is a lot closer to us it appears brighter)


Compared to my favourite star Betelgeuse (you can actually see Betelgeuse with your naked eye at night) and his monster cousin Antares, Arcturus is a baby

Tips on how to spot Betelgeuse: On any clear night sky, (if you're near the Equator like Nigeria, it wouldn't matter what time of the year) try to spot three stars in a straight line separated by a fingers length when u stretch your arms upwards (Usually called "the three kings" ). Try to align these three stars on one hand (preferably left) there will be four stars forming a rectangle around these three. The top left one with a reddish twinkle is Betelgeuse. and the bottom right one in the square is Rigel


As big as these stars get, they are really insignificant compared to our medium sized galaxy.




Finally, how many galaxies out there? seemingly just as many as the number of stars



everything you see there is a galaxy .






I ask the question one more time.

How significant do you think we are?

tpia1: could have been a nice and informative thread without the unnecessary vulgarity, and also if it were in science section.

everything you people do doesnt have to be coloured by misery, does it?


why not try to do things occasionally in an objective manner, and without your pointless and fruitless attacks on christianity or whatever.

tpia1: could have been a nice and informative thread without the unnecessary vulgarity, and also if it were in science section.

everything you people do doesnt have to be coloured by misery, does it?


why not try to do things occasionally in an objective manner, and without your pointless and fruitless attacks on christianity or whatever.

truthislight:

i had wanted to take the thread seriouse when i notice the "low ebb"