@Papabrowne

A truly touching story. You are truly blessed to have been given the grace to sow such a seed!! And in the spirit of the season, may each of those seeds blossom into deep roots of tolerance and love for all of God creatures - 'tis the reason for the season.

PStylish: Christmas is the most celebrated festival worldwide.

Christmas virtually brings the world to a stand still.

It overwhelms and dwarfs other celebrations by light years.

Even at the warfront (WW1, WW2, Iraq and Afghanistan), soldiers celebrate(d) christmas and christmas carols are/were played from time to time. It almost reconciled warring armies on some occasions.

Whoever tries to ignore Christmas and its activities will only get frustrated.

Quite appealing is the fact that Yoruba muslims have also joined their christian brothers in the celebration of the birth of anobi isa.

I know muslims who slaughter chickens on Christmas day.

Christmas and New Year celebrations now belong to everybody!!!

sorry dude !

BetaThings:

Show me a thread where you are called infidel by muslims to justify your assertion that "they quick to call people infidel"
Actually it is more correct to request Christians to leave Muslims alone. If you doubt it, I CHALLENGE you to bring 3 threads where muslims abuse and use derogatory words on Christians, I will match it with 15 threads where Christians abuse Muslims. If you wish, we can continue the exchange with that ratio of 1:5

Gbam! thread close

BetaThings:

No. But because contrary to their hypocritical posturings, they are just some intolerant bunch
There are at about 6 posts on the FP now about Christian events/issues. I am yet to see a muslim querying why they are there or even making any snide remarks on those threads.

BTW, your bible call Muslims infidels. You also call Islam darkness. Not interested in a debate. Just pointing out facts

The bible does not call muslims infidels or darkness, because Christianity and the Bible existed way before the coming of Muhammed (PBUH).

dadicvila: christmas is like Oxygen,no matter your religious affiliation you must still feel christmas unlike the Eid celebration that many people dont even know when it takes place....you must feel it in the air,the bright lights every where,the shopping frenzy,the chicken and turkey sellers in frönt of your street....the only way you wunt feel it is if your are dead....i call and send my muslim frnds msages during their eid celebration but ironically they dont do the same when its christmas??why i dont know

it is a sin to send regards to christians during thier celebrations i read somewhere

They should believe in Jesus Christ, Christianity isn't a religion but the life of God in man for every man.

So its a simple invitation y'all muslim and indeed to everyone.

Thank you!

BetaThings:
This post is from the Islam section and the OP is talking about how to deal with the numerous activities during Christmas. comparison is hardly avoidable.
However, I find Christians defending their religion by attacking Islam more than muslims do when defending Islam. I can prove this

don't worry, your boko boys has proven it

OP, you should be ashamed of yourself to talk about your hateful religion - pisslam

BetaThings:

No. But because contrary to their hypocritical posturings, they are just some intolerant bunch
There are at about 6 posts on the FP now about Christian events/issues. I am yet to see a muslim querying why they are there or even making any snide remarks on those threads.

BTW, your bible call Muslims infidels. You also call Islam darkness. Not interested in a debate. Just pointing out facts

BetaThings:

No. But because contrary to their hypocritical posturings, they are just some intolerant bunch
There are at about 6 posts on the FP now about Christian events/issues. I am yet to see a muslim querying why they are there or even making any snide remarks on those threads.

BTW, your bible call Muslims infidels. You also call Islam darkness. Not interested in a debate. Just pointing out facts

BetaThings:

No. But because contrary to their hypocritical posturings, they are just some intolerant bunch
There are at about 6 posts on the FP now about Christian events/issues. I am yet to see a muslim querying why they are there or even making any snide remarks on those threads.

BTW, your bible call Muslims infidels. You also call Islam darkness. Not interested in a debate. Just pointing out facts

mr chairman plz is lying nt a sin in islam?? Plz whr is it in da BIBLE muslims ar kald infidels and bysyd xtainity exist b4 islam... Ma broda ur hatred on xtainity wnt do u any gud bt serious harm

didoburns:
it is a sin to send regards to christians during thier celebrations i read somewhere

WRONG!!!

Muslims aghast at mosque that slurs Christmas: National Post ^ | 2002-12-31 | Adrian Humphreys , http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/814702/posts

Muslim leaders across Canada yesterday denounced a Christmas Day message from a Toronto mosque that said wishing someone Merry Christmas is comparable to congratulating them for committing murder or engaging in adultery.

The message, sent via the e-mail message service of the Khalid Bin Al-Walid Mosque, equates celebrating the Christian Christmas holiday with activities that are against Islamic law, including murder, illicit sex and drinking alcohol.

The message also said Muslims who participate in the Christian celebration by extending their greetings imply support for Christianity.

Several Muslim leaders spoke out sternly against the message.

The Muslim leaders condemned the message for not only contradicting the teachings of Islam but for building walls between Muslims and Christians in Canada.

"It is a ridiculous statement and doesn't follow Islamic teaching. Whoever says this is saying it out of ignorance of his or her own religion," said Mohamed Elmasry, national president of the Canadian Islamic Congress.

Dr. Elmasry said extending Christmas greetings to Christians is not only the polite and neighbourly thing to do but is completely appropriate within Islam.

"We might inform others that, although we don't celebrate Christmas, we would be happy to accept your invitation to a Christmas party at work or in the neighbourhood or to a family or friend's home," he said.

Iskandar Khan, spokesman for the British Columbia Muslim Association, said the statement does not represent the view of the vast majority of Muslims.

"That is an extreme statement. We disagree with the sentiment of the statement. Muslims, as a whole, do recognize the holidays of the other faith groups," Mr. Khan said.

Mahmoud Haddara, spokesman for the Muslim Association of Newfoundland and Labrador, said not only is it appropriate to extend Christmas greetings to Christians, he also opposes the movement to take Christian themes out of Christmas celebrations in Canada.

"These people [who wrote the message] are out to lunch. As Muslims, we appreciate Christmas is a Christian event and we wish our neighbours the best wishes for the event because it is part of the celebrations for their religion."

Dr. Elmasry said Islam allows followers to marry Jews and Christians and in Canada there are many multi-faith families, including his own.

"My wife used to be Roman Catholic and converted to Islam. My kids have uncles and aunts who are Christian and we wish them Happy Christmas and they also wish us Happy Eid [an Islamic holy day]," he said.

A spokesman for the Khalid Bin Al-Walid Mosque did not return phone calls yesterday. A spokesman for the mosque told a Toronto newspaper, however, that the e-mail was sent by a junior employee without approval from the leadership and that it does not represent the official position of the mosque.

The Khalid Bin Al-Walid Mosque was founded by the Somali Islamic Society of Canada, a charitable organization formed in 1990 to help Somali Muslims preserve their religious identity.

The organization purchased nearly an acre of land on Bethridge Road in Etobicoke in 1996 and built the mosque, which caters largely to Muslims with a Somali background.

it is a sin to send regards to christians during thier celebrations i read somewhere

i read the same thing here on nl, i think i posted on that thread.

http://www.soundvision.com/info/christmas/ctreat.asp

Treating Christmas with Respect
by Abdul Malik Mujahid

Christmas is an annual Christian religious holiday commemorating the birth of Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him. For many Muslims who even do not celebrate the birthday of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, it becomes an issue of what stand they should take.

There have been a number of legitimate criticisms of the holiday from Muslims and non-Muslims based on theological and cultural considerations. However, this cannot be used to disregard the holiday as merely an exercise in ancient pagan practices, for instance, or excessive consumerism. Muslims have to remember that for practicing Christians, Christmas really is about Jesus.

Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was so accommodating of Christians that according to the two earliest Islamic historians, Ibn e Saad and Ibn Hisham, the Prophet even allowed a delegation of 60 Byzantine Christians from Najran in Yemen to worship in his own mosque in Madinah. Lead by their bishop (Usquf), they had come to discuss a number of issues with him. When time of their prayer came, they asked the Prophet's permission to perform this in the mosque. He answered, "conduct your service here in the mosque. It is a place consecrated to God."

God expects us to stay away from mocking the religious beliefs of others, no matter how much we disagree with them. He says in the Quran: "And insult not those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides God, lest they insult God wrongfully without knowledge. Thus We have made fair-seeming to each people its own doings; then to their Lord is their return and He shall then inform them of all that they used to do" (Quran, 6:108).

We also have to remember that even if for many nominal Christians, the celebration is not really about participating in religious traditions, Christmas is a time for families to get together. In a number of cases it is the only time of year families get together, either because family members are scattered in different parts of the country or the world, because of communication and relationship problems, or because in America today, the family unit is becoming weaker and weaker.

Christmas is a great time to relate to our neighbors. We should not forget though, that "relating" does not mean "preaching". Dawa cannot be made in a rude manner. Allah says in the Quran: "Invite (all) to the Way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful advice, and reason with them by ways that are the best and most gracious: because your Lord knows best, (those) who have strayed from His Path, and those who receive guidance " (Quran, 16:125).

In particular, when dealing with Jews and Christians, Allah says: "Do not argue with the People of the Book unless it is in the politest manner, except for those of them who do wrong. Say: 'We believe in what has been sent down to us and what has been sent down to you. Our God and your God is [the same] One, and we are Muslims before Him'" (Quran, 29:46).

This may not be an occasion to emphasis the differences as much as the commonality of our beliefs, unless someone is really asking you about them.

A starting point for a discussion about Christmas could be the Islamic belief in all Books revealed by Allah and all Prophets sent by Him. In this discussion, special emphasis could be made on Prophet Jesus. Non-Muslims are often surprised to discover that Muslims also believe in this noble Prophet and his great mother Mary (peace be upon her).

Remember that respect does not mean compromise. This article is not asking you to compromise anything. You have freedom of religion given by God to believe in what you believe in. But in a world where conflict is increasing, a Muslim should be a bridge- builder and a peacemaker. It was due to the Muslim practice of Islamic ideals of respect and tolerance that the key of the holiest Christian Shrine in Jerusalem, the church of the Holy Sepulcher, remains entrusted with a Muslim family, as it has been for over 1400 years.

These are the lessons which need to be learned by those extremists who attack Christians during their worship in Nigeria and those extremists who burn Masjids in the USA.

i live in london and my children school is multicultural; christians, muslims and hindu(indian). they celebrate all these at school but the christmas takes more effect because it's christians' country, (2 weeks holiday in december, 2 weeks holiday in april for easter but only a day off in Eid).

I believe communication with actions is they key here. I talk to my children alot about different things in life such as what is the beliefs of christians and beliefs of muslims. i tell them that christians believe that Jesus is God and muslims believe that ALLAH alone is the creator of us and Jesus(PBUH). I tell them that Jehovah christian dont celebrate christmas & easter because they dont believe. I tell them that christmas is a western people culture not religious purpose so dat the government can sell products, etc. I show them the news on BBC that advise people not to drink and drive(over 200 death last year in uk of drunken drivers or passengers) at chrismas and i ask them should people get drunk on christmas?

my eldest child(7yrs old girl) is quite vast at learning and understanding,thanks to GOD, she knows not to eat pork, only halal meat, they will not eat haribo sweet cos it has pork gelatine in it, etc. if someone should ask her about God, she will tel u dat only ALLAH is worthy to worship and all the messengers of GOD preach to obey GOD. she will tell u dat praying 5 times a day is a MUST and only ask God for things.

So as a muslim family here in uk, talking and showing love(in the way of God) to your children is the key. reading the quran, studying islam and showing them the weak and strong points of other religion. once u build your children from home with fear of God insha ALLAH, nothing can shake them outside.

at d moment, they r taking part in the christmas activities at school so is no problem for me. they no better.

some christians r so naive, they r abusive and remember, this is muslim thread.

if somebody says merry christmas to me, i say to them 'may ALLAH bless you' or 'same to u' or 'thanks'. in respect to these, they know clearly that i don't celebrate christmas.

if my friends invite me for christmas dinner, i will go to their house a day after not on chrismas day. i keep my children busy on chrismas day at home.

but i think everybody knows that christmas is not the birth of Jesus, in russia they celebrate christmas differently, jehovah christians dont celebrate christmas and easter. christmas is for business; buying ang giving everyone presents.

dont mind them they are just looking for trouble again.

tomsniel: wish U dsame

we dont need to fool ourselve here if u are practising ur deen u know wat is expected of u, Jesus(PBUH) WAS not born on dec25 even according to historian he was born in d summer nd nt winter, am a yoruba by trybe, and have christian family members. we relate cordially bt in terms of religions i dont bend rule to be in their good books, christmass may be a big celebration bt we all know its an idol event change to that date.

some christians celebrate their christmass in october, jehovah witness have their own date separately, coptic until january then when is d man realy born. Dont be fool becos most people does someting doesnt means its ryt, b proud of ur own. PLEASE EVERYTHING IWROTE HERE IS FOR MA FELLOW MUSLIM. LETS BE WISE.

Beta Things,
All i want u to no is dat WE are not interested wheither u guys appreciate christmas or not, just leave us alone to celebrate our thing, see we love this festival, it is a festival of love and we want to enjoy it, we will do our best to make sure dat happen no matter what u guys think.
We dont want BITTER people around US cos it CHRISMASSSSSSSS

BetaThings:

Show me a thread where you are called infidel by muslims to justify your assertion that "they quick to call people infidel"
Actually it is more correct to request Christians to leave Muslims alone. If you doubt it, I CHALLENGE you to bring 3 threads where muslims abuse and use derogatory words on Christians, I will match it with 15 threads where Christians abuse Muslims. If you wish, we can continue the exchange with that ratio of 1:5

jeddyMay: wetin concern agbero with overload nw
if u guys no dat u ve internal issue with your kids, why not tie dwn with rope or somtin. because ur kids decided to be who dey r, we christians should now limit d way we celebrate the BIRTH OF OUR SAVIOUR.........SMH FOR UNA

if you can't beat them, abeg you join dem nw.................

TO ALL, COMPLIMENTS OF THE SEASON!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR IN ADVANCE.................

...And what if I tell you your "SAVIOUR" wasn't born on the 25th of December, with proof ofcourse?

I thought this Jesus was supposed to be anobi Isa.What is wrong with celebrating the birth?
Anyway Jesus said I am the light of the world.U really can't put out the light of the world.U may deny it but can't quench it.

Whether some people say u should not celebrate birthdays or not is based on their understanding and doctrines.It does not prove or deny the truth.

My own is that there is a Kingdom that stands FOREVER....Jesus is of that Kingdom.

jeddyMay: wetin concern agbero with overload nw
if u guys no dat u ve internal issue with your kids, why not tie dwn with rope or somtin. because ur kids decided to be who dey r, we christians should now limit d way we celebrate the BIRTH OF OUR SAVIOUR.........SMH FOR UNA

if you can't beat them, abeg you join dem nw.................

TO ALL, COMPLIMENTS OF THE SEASON!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR IN ADVANCE.................

Madam,what part of the OP's original post suggested that we should tone down our celebration of Christmas?

I know that in kwara state they celebrate christmas by having their own santa called "Baba Ileya"
How do you explain that?

vanessa_ra: I know that in kwara state they celebrate christmas by having their own santa called "Baba Ileya"
How do you explain that?

I call that an undercover operation. "Babaa Ileya" is a ludicrous concept. #Cheeky

edreesabiodun: ...And what if I tell you your "SAVIOUR" wasn't born on the 25th of December, with proof ofcourse?

oga, were u ever told by any christian that Jesus was born on the 25th of december

Christmas is about sharing not religion. Its hi time people start learning the essence of all festivities.

I dont know why anyone would want to participate in that pagan ritual. Because Hollywood is glamorous doesnt make it good. Thats all you need to teach your kids. Infidelity may be highly attractive but its one of the worst of sins.

MERRY XMAX MERRY XMAX MERRY XMAX

Make anybody wey wan die go do salat prayer on BRT lane.

This year christmas...no sakin (imitating an Ibadan man)

Watermelon:
oga, were u ever told by any christian that Jesus was born on the 25th of december

You know, you should read carefully before typing. He/she clearly stated that they are 'celebrating the birth of their saviour'

snakova: I dont know why anyone would want to participate in that pagan ritual. Because Hollywood is glamorous doesnt make it good. Thats all you need to teach your kids. Infidelity may be highly attractive but its one of the worst of sins.

Which is pagan? Celebrating the birth of Jesus? Or bowing down to the moon god allah in the name of prayer?
See, there is nothing you can say on nairaaland that can change the mind of billions of xtians all over the world.
If u feeling jealous, go sip acid like fanta.
Merry xmas and happy new year and stop crying.

I even went too far.
Between celebrating xmas and using ram and goats blood for rituals (ileya goat), which is pagan?
I see that ileya meat as ritual. It disgust me eating it cuz its ritual to the call.

Watermelon:
oga, were u ever told by any christian that Jesus was born on the 25th of december

That's what you mo.ron muslims never get since all this century. Xtians all over the world knew Jesus was not born on the 25th, they just choose 25th to celebrate it. Nobody is contesting that. Get that into your empty skulls.

Next argument plz? Cuz muslims are found of arguments. I saw one alfa teblik arguing that there was no prophet called "Jesus". That's an attribute of A̶̲̥̅​ muslim. Argument and lies.

edreesabiodun: ...And what if I tell you your "SAVIOUR" wasn't born on the 25th of December, with proof ofcourse?

That's ùя own life's headache.You haters can stress your life out trying to figure out when He was born,truth remains "He was born" and He lives for ever.Its left to you to accept this truth.And if you really doubt if He íڪ the Son of God? Why not challenge Him to show you if really He íڪ the Son of God: He íڪ not a bloodsucking dead monster like some 'gods'.