I know there must be at least 1 person on nairaland besides me who follows baseball.

So how about it? do you believe Roger didn't take steroids?

I think he's an arrogant ________ and lying thru his teeth! he did take it, especially since Andy Pettitte came out and said Roger told him he took them. So far McNamee has been proven right in all his accusations. Why is Clemens still lying? just admit it and ask forgiveness. We all saw what happened to Marion Jones - she denied it for yrs only to come out and cry that she did.

The sport is the most unsporty sport. . .hehehehehe, na wa for english ooo

Neway. . .i was convinced as hell that Clemens was dirty when his trainer first made the allegations

Then Clemens brought that taped conversation and I wasn't so sure.

Then his performance at the hearings yesterday has me convinced of his guilt again.

Frankly I think politicians should let sportspeople police their sports.
All this talk about the nation's pastime bla bla bla, all bullshit

Better yet let everyone take which ever drug they so choose. . .the usual suspects always rise to the top

Chaff will always be garri, and yam ikokore lol

B T W you should be watching cricket anyway. . .a sport of finesse and grace
The biggest hitters are not built like NFL linemen

yeah all the africans I know can't understand why baseball is called a sport! lol I dunno, but I sure like it!

anyways, I agree that taped conversation was very suspect. No hint of a retraction by Mcnamee and nuthin about him having lied. Why won't Clemens just give up the charade?

and i kind of agree congress has more pressing issues to attend to but I admit I also want to know is he did it. At least 4 of his cy young awards must be returned - just like marion jones returned her medals. It's even worse for someone who's presented himself as "perfect", i can't wait for him to fall flat on his face!

now I'm off to go test those "bloody syringes and beer cans for dna!"

What the hell is the US Congress doing holding deliberations on such an issue? Aren't there more important issues for these Democrats to get their teeth into?

I was just scolding the Nigerian National Assembly for doing something similar only to see this waste of taxpayer's money.

probably for the reason the sports governing body does not have the kind of power the congress does.
If they lie to congress, they can be prosecuted for perjury, but if they lie to Bulig selig and other baseball authorities, there'll be no repercussions.

I know there's hundreds of much more important things to take care of but it doesn't mean we can't still regulate and investigate our sports. Though not to the degree of assigning too much time and funds to it.

But Jesoul, you must remember that when these people took these steroids, they were not strictly breaking the rules
under the very lax substance policies of the game. . .

B T W. . .did you jus hear that Manny, Big Papi and Beckett jus got traded. . .

They will be replaced by better prospects Griffey, Boone and Bernie

doyin13:

But Jesoul, you must remember that when these people took these steroids, they were not strictly breaking the rules
under the very lax substance policies of the game. . .

  You right it wasn't illegal then and they can never be 'punished' for it BUT they knew what they were doing was wrong - otherwise they would not have done it secretly. They knew it gave them an unfair edge over their competitors and they went along and did it anyways. That's morally wrong.
  Even one former yankee pitcher came forward (not a well known guy, I forget his name) and said that if he'd never used steroids he woulda never made it into AA, not to talk of even the major league. That was someone's spot he took that didn't cheat with steroids.

B T W. . .did you jus hear that Manny, Big Papi and Beckett jus got traded. . .

  ah ah why you go scare me like that now? I just went to espn.com to make sure you were just joking, 
Manny traded maybe, but Boston is in love with Papi, I guarantee you he will not be traded anytime soon. As for 'prospects' almost the whole sphere of sports is in a "win now" mode.

People would rather have a kevin garnett now than hope for a greg oden blossoming in the future. A Chad johnson now than a future 1st rd pick etc. . . you catch my drift? 

JeSoul:

You right it wasn't illegal then and they can never be 'punished' for it BUT they knew what they were doing was wrong - otherwise they would not have done it secretly. They knew it gave them an unfair edge over their competitors and they went along and did it anyways. That's morally wrong.
Even one former yankee pitcher came forward (not a well known guy, I forget his name) and said that if he'd never used steroids he woulda never made it into AA, not to talk of even the major league. That was someone's spot he took that didn't cheat with steroids.
ah ah why you go scare me like that now? I just went to espn.com to make sure you were just joking,
Manny traded maybe, but Boston is in love with Papi, I guarantee you he will not be traded anytime soon. As for 'prospects' almost the whole sphere of sports is in a "win now" mode.

People would rather have a kevin garnett now than hope for a greg oden blossoming in the future. A Chad johnson now than a future 1st rd pick etc. . . you catch my drift?

I understand na. . .that is why I wished Ken Griffey Jr. for the Red Sox. . .in fact i bet you could tease Mo Vaughn out of retirement.

If Chad Johnson goes to the Patriots. . . .then i will go on a Columbine Bostonian spree

neway. . .forgetting my cannibalistic tendencies

Do you honestly believe that Bonds or Clemens would not have been big stars without the steroids.

Its a moot point but i suspect they would have been fine. Maybe would not have put on the career numbers.
home run king or three hundred wins and all that malarky but i suspect they would have done jus great. . .

Oh b t w. . .please tell me you hate, ok considering your cherubic qualities, at least dislike A-Rod.

God forgive me. . .I hope he has a career threatening injury to stop him from breaking the home run record.

if only ken griffey had been healthy. . . he would have been a worthy successor to hank aron. . .sweetest swing in baseball

neways. . .i just want to keep that post black, if you catch my drift

doyin13:

I understand na. . .that is why I wished Ken Griffey Jr. for the Red Sox. . .in fact i bet you could tease Mo Vaughn out of retirement.

  you already know! Jnr without all those injuries was well on his way to the record. . . it's too bad some people just have bad luck.

If Chad Johnson goes to the Patriots. . . .then i will go on a Columbine Bostonian spree

   lol. . . ocho cinco baby! feel free to come to boston, you would do well as Randy's partner in crime.

Do you honestly believe that Bonds or Clemens would not have been big stars without the steroids.Its a moot point but i suspect they would have been fine. Maybe would not have put on the career numbers.
home run king or three hundred wins and all that malarky but i suspect they would have done jus great. . .

  oh I think they were definately big time stars without the juice, but the drugs imho pushed them to legendary status. See how big those guys got over the yrs? its usually the reverse. people loose steam with age, not become the likeness of the incredible hulk!

Oh b t w. . .please tell me you hate, ok considering your cherubic qualities, at least dislike A-Rod.

   you know me well baby!
A-Rod is a selfish, self-centered human being. It's easy to dislike him. Imagine announcing his opt-out in the middle of game7 world-series, then asking mlb teams to cough up 350mil? then crawling back to the yankees, begging for forgiveness and kissing their behind. . . all in the name of the dollar! I have no respect for A-rod at all oh!

God forgive me. . .I hope he has a career threatening injury to stop him from breaking the home run record.

if only ken griffey had been healthy. . . he would have been a worthy successor to hank aron. . .sweetest swing in baseball

  I know! worthy indeed! Ken G is a lovable human being, I hope he can salvage and make good use of whatever yrs he has left in the majors.

neways. . .i just want to keep that post black, if you catch my drift

oooohhhh infact I catch am so tey I no fit handle am! 

Never been a big baseball fan but i am not sure i even know who to believe between McNamee and Clemens its a case of two liars who can possibly be telling the truth among them but when you start looking at the build of some of these players at their ages then you begin to wonder i think Roger Clemens did it though i believe Pettite but hey he isnt the first we got Barry Bonds,Sammy Sosa etc

I wouldn't be found dead in Boston

If you catch my drift. . .

The only reason I'm interested in the inquiry is to level the playing field following the venomous attack on Barry Bond, in the name of cleaning the sport. Barry took whatever most players were taking to turn himself into a super slugger. The unrelenting investigation and prosecution is simply because he is black. I'm really interested to see how the feds go after Mr. Clemens for perjury. There is already more evidence than they had against Barry. And the republican congressmen acting like jerks? No one gave Barry the benefit of doubt, even with less glaring evidence.

PED is all over the place. With guys like David Ortiz becoming an overnight terror for the Red Sucks after a journey man career with the Twins.

All I'm saying is that if the government wants to waste tax payers money chasing Roid and HGH users, it should be an equal opportunity waste, without regard to race or color.

A-40:

Never been a big baseball fan but i am not sure i even know who to believe between McNamee and Clemens its a case of two liars who can possibly be telling the truth among them but when you start looking at the build of some of these players at their ages then you begin to wonder i think Roger Clemens did it though i believe Pettite but hey he isnt the first we got Barry Bonds,Sammy Sosa etc

Yup he's certainly not the first and there's many that'll never get caught.
I think the difference is that McNamee has nothing to gain whatsoever by lying, and that everything he's said about other players have turned out to be true. Whereas Roger has everything to lose.

dason4life:

@POSTER
I don’t know o!

why you no know?

ocho cinco:

I wouldn't be found dead in Boston

If you catch my drift. . .

I no dey catch that kin drift! lol.
Common ocho cinco, ocho cinco would do great in NewEngland! about least 100%more touchdowns than he got in stripes. Besides I think he looks better in Red, white and blue rather than that orange peel.

BlackMamba:

The only reason I'm interested in the inquiry is to level the playing field following the venomous attack on Barry Bond, in the name of cleaning the sport. Barry took whatever most players were taking to turn himself into a super slugger. The unrelenting investigation and prosecution is simply because he is black. I'm really interested to see how the feds go after Mr. Clemens for perjury. There is already more evidence than they had against Barry. And the republican congressmen acting like jerks? No one gave Barry the benefit of doubt, even with less glaring evidence.

PED is all over the place. With guys like David Ortiz becoming an overnight terror for the Red Sucks after a journey man career with the Twins.

All I'm saying is that if the government wants to waste tax payers money chasing Roid and HGH users, it should be an equal opportunity waste, without regard to race or color.

ah ah which one be ur own with Big Papi? he's still 32 yrs and has been relatively the same size. Not like Clemens exploding on his way past 45 yrs! and still that big and strong? I smell a rat! a very big, juiced rat!

But I do agree with you they need to pursue Clemens with the same fury as they did Barry or else we shall cry foul!

when are they going to call Mark Mcgwire. . .

I agree with black Mamba.

there is a racial tint to the enquiry.

anecdotal evidence had it that mcgwire was on the juice too. . .

it was only after Bonds started his ascent towards the home run king thingy
that everyone took interest. . .especially when he was close to catching Ruth

If Clemens had jus shut up and acknowledged his guilt like Giambi. . .e for no reach like this.

Bonds was the big fish

Ocho Cinco baby. . . .please say the baby

doyin13:
If Clemens had just shut up and acknowledged his guilt like Giambi. . .e for no reach like this.

You're damn right! I hoped and prayed that he come out swinging as he is doing, so that that there will be an opportunity to disgrace his sorry ass like they did Bond. It's obvious that he is juiced, even without the Mitchell report. His mind is playing tricks on him with his B12 excuse. Unfortunately for him Brian McNamme lacks the balls of Greg Anderson.

ocho cinco:

Ocho Cinco baby. . . .please say the baby

ocho cinco baby, will you please come to boston? huh? sweetie? I guarantee you it is much better than cincinnati

lol , Jesoul, u want roger "the steroid" clemens to come out clean? are u kiding me? thats jail term, the dude has 7 cyong awards, the best pitcher ever , nah!

At least he took the heat off barry bonds, Clemens, the white barry,

Lol! I didn't even see this topic. He soooooooooooo took steriods! lol - whoever believes otherwise doesn't know what's up

MP007:

lol , Jesoul, u want roger "the steroid" clemens to come out clean? are u kiding me? thats jail term, the dude has 7 cyong awards, the best pitcher ever , nah!

At least he took the heat off barry bonds, Clemens, the white barry,

white barry indeed! if only they would go after Clemens with the same fury. All I know is the truth always and must come out. He will go to jail, the liar, no be only Barry and Michael Vick go dey go jail.

That man is just way too arrogant to think we all are so stupid as to believe his lies.

j-girl:

Lol! I didn't even see this topic. He soooooooooooo took steriods! lol - whoever believes otherwise doesn't know what's up

Abi O my sister! lol. . . It's so obvious that he's lying. The part that is really annoying is for him in his arrogance, thinking he's a god and people should not question him! He's so going down for this!

ps. Did anyone else see Andy Pettitte's news conference yesterday?

Now that is a believeable man, humble and sorry about his mistakes. I acutally like him now - inspite of the fact he's a yankee
He didn't want to say it but it was clear he believes Roger is lying. Especially since Andy already testified Roger told him he'd taken steroids. He's been known as a christian and came out and did the christian thing - confessed and asked for forgiveness. Unlike some people . . .

Of course Andy handled the situation with honesty and class like a true Bronx Bomber. He should re-focus fast to contribute in the on going dismantling of the Boston championship anomaly which the G-Men has started. However, Andy better be good and win at least 15 games or else he'll get it from the boo birds at Yankee stadium.

BlackMamba:

Of course Andy handled the situation with honesty and class like a true Bronx Bomber. He should re-focus fast to contribute in the on going dismantling of the Boston championship anomaly which the G-Men has started. However, Andy better be good and win at least 15 games or else he'll get it from the boo birds at Yankee stadium.

lol. . . since when did the bronx jungle become known for honesty and class? Since the likes of A-Rod and co its been more about the dollar, stripping the league of its best players by enticing them with sinfully ridiculous amounts of money and then rubbing it in our faces

Now Boston is getting some payback ya'll wan cry foul? its alright BlackMamba, I forgive you.

I think Andy should be cheered even if he doesn't play his best this season. He's such a great example of how you can fall from grace, but still pick urself up, admit ur fault and move on. That's what I call a man! I love the guy jare!

Look at all these New Englanders displaying their dirty laundry for all to see.

Money bags parading as sports wits. . .

To you Bostonian, . . . . .I warn, the Bambino is back, curse and all. I wonder how long this drought will last.
Shall we say give or take. . .two centuries

To those of you in the Bronx. . . .walahi, the league will give you all the best players and you still won't be able to make it to the series again

why all this hostility eh Doyin?

To you Bostonian, . . . . .I warn, the Bambino is back, curse and all. I wonder how long this drought will last.
Shall we say give or take. . .two centuries

God forbid bad thing! We shall overcome for many many years to come. Amin. Amen. Ise.

To those of you in the Bronx. . . .walahi, the league will give you all the best players and you still won't be able to make it to the series again

yes oh! Amen, amin, ise! Down yankees! A-Rod shall be the bane of your existence for the next 10yrs while you all dole out 350milla for ur pain. Amen!

why all the hostility

i support the Twins for chrissakes. . .

Do you knw how that feels


The other New York team just took our ace

doyin13:

why all the hostility

i support the Twins for chrissakes. . .

Do you knw how that feels


The other New York team just took our ace

ooooh Minnesota fan? nuff said, I feel ur pain
but why the twins now? wetin send you go that direction? At least he didn't go to the yankees or boston! that woulda hurt 10times as much. But give 'em a break, I hear they are "rebuilding" right? it's a shame though, they coulda gotten a whole lot more for Santana.

Why not the twins, . . . .i don't have a particular team. . .so i root for the underdog

I no dey live for Yankee na.

Let's jus say in my past life I was a Bolshevik. . . .Hence my hatred for these money bag ostentatious teams

Some people define their relationship with sports in terms of the team or individuals they support.

I define it in terms of my hatred for an idea, person or team. . .its a refresing viewpoint on life

and often those who have too much money are subjects of my wrath

B T W. . . . . .OCHO CINCO SAYS HI

He loves the idea of working with Jake Delhomme in Carolina. . .lovely community team. Good fans and egalitarian to boot

He roots for the little guys you see

**in any case. . . no mind my hostility as you put it. Jus playing good cop bad cop

doyin13:

Why not the twins, . . . .i don't have a particular team. . .so i root for the underdog
I no dey live for Yankee na.

    I hear you. I usually go for the underdog . . .long as they ain't playing a beantown team (except hockey, then I don't care  )

Let's jus say in my past life I was a Bolshevik. . . .Hence my hatred for these money bag ostentatious teams

   I know, I feel you small. Becos if the smaller teams had the same kind of overly devoted fans willing to throw away tens of thousands of dollars away, they would spend it too.
  Imagine a playoff ticket last yr costing 25 grand last yr in boston?  and someone actually bought it! now that kind of stuff does annoy me.

I define it in terms of my hatred for an idea, person or team. . .its a refresing viewpoint on life and often those who have too much money are subjects of my wrath

  How noble! lol . . .do you dress and play Robin Hood on the weekends too? j/k at least your passion has some direction and composition to it

B T W. . . . . .OCHO CINCO SAYS HI

  Hi Ocho baby! you look real good in those "go-daddy" commercials 

He loves the idea of working with Jake Delhomme in Carolina. . .lovely community team. Good fans and egalitarian to boot

  1 night game with Tom Brady and you'll forget who Jake Delhomme is! 

**in any case. . . no mind my hostility as you put it. Jus playing good cop bad cop

   shhh don't tell Doyin I enjoy his input very much Always gotta love and sympathize with a boston hater. iHolla!

@Jesoul
You want Chad Johnson and Randy Moss in the same thing hmm thats what they call long throat so whats the latest with Belichick and his spygate issues ?

As for Roger he sounds guilty but i dont think anything would happen he would lose his cred no Hall of fame thats for sure but besides that i just feel this case might just be swept under the carpet