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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by KarlTom: 2:36pm On Mar 07
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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Youngzedd(m): 3:00pm On Mar 07

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by zendi: 3:06pm On Mar 07
KarlTom:
Good News... smiley

https://nairametrics.com/2025/03/06/opec-oil-output-rises-in-february-as-nigeria-exceeds-quota-by-70000-bpd/

I was crying that oil price was falling and you're rejoicing with "Good News" that we're cheating on OPEC Quota.

The quota is meant to protect the price.

The price is looking up now that Trump has paused some of his trade war.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by KarlTom: 3:09pm On Mar 07
Hmmm...

Every mallam to his kettle wink
zendi:

I was crying that oil price was falling and you're rejoicing with "Good News" that we're cheating on OPEC Quota.

The quota is meant to protect the price.

The price is looking up now that Trump has paused some of his trade war.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by zendi: 3:19pm On Mar 07
grin
KarlTom:
Hmmm...

Every mallam to his kettle wink
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 4:26pm On Mar 07
Youngzedd:



Is 81.6 a fair price?


Stingy people everywhere. They wan chop alone.
The price is not good though you have right not to sell.If I had bought the shares at sub #50.I for no sell.Why are these guys always wanting to buy out shareholders once a company is set to turn around for minority shareholders to benefit

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mcsugk(m): 5:22pm On Mar 07
Hey everyone, I wanted to share a potential investment opportunity with you called Pcex. It claims to offer daily returns through trading signals. My close friend has had success with it, withdrawing $2,900 after investing $500. However, remember that all investments involve risk, and you should only invest what you can afford to lose. If you're interested in learning more, feel free to reach out to me. This my number 08068363113
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Pesuzok(m): 5:38pm On Mar 07
DeRuggedProf:
From the financial statements of Dangote Sugar Refinery Plc for 2024, we can analyze the arguments of both individuals.

Key Observations from the Financials:

1. Revaluation and Its Effect on Profit

A revaluation surplus of ₦432.17 billion was recorded under Other Comprehensive Income (OCI).

The income tax on this revaluation surplus was ₦106.57 billion, leaving a net revaluation surplus of ₦325.6 billion.

This suggests that the revaluation gains were not part of the profit for the year but rather recorded under OCI.

2. Losses Before and After Taxation

The loss before tax was ₦270.89 billion, and after tax, the net loss stood at ₦192.6 billion.

This means the company was in loss even before considering any revaluation gains.

3. Foreign Exchange Losses

The company suffered foreign exchange losses of ₦201.88 billion, which significantly impacted its financial results.

This loss was largely due to Naira depreciation, making it an unrealized forex loss that could be reversed if the Naira strengthens further.

4. Interest Expenses and Cost of Finance

Interest expense on bank loans was ₦7.25 billion, which is quite significant.

If interest expense exceeds operating profit, it indicates financial strain.


Evaluating the Arguments:

Guy Osita's Claims

He argues that the revaluation was included below profit for the year, affecting EPS negatively. However, the revaluation was not included in the profit for the year but was recorded under OCI.

He also claims that even if the ₦208 billion revaluation is removed, the company would still be in losses. This is correct since the loss before tax was already ₦270.89 billion.

He is correct about the high interest expenses exceeding operating profit, which is a financial concern.

However, his claim that the company "played on intelligence" does not hold since the revaluation was properly accounted for in OCI.


Guy Street's Claims

He correctly notes that the revaluation was not based on physical assets but forex-related losses. This aligns with the financials, where a large portion of losses came from unrealized forex losses.

He also mentions that the company still has over ₦200 billion in unrealized forex losses, which could be written back if the Naira appreciates. This is accurate, as a large part of the losses were from exchange rate fluctuations.

His claim that technically, the company made no loss is incorrect because the core financial results still show a net loss of ₦192.6 billion, excluding the revaluation effects.

He is right about most forex dealings being forward contracts, meaning values may change at future payment dates, impacting reported forex gains/losses.


Final Verdict: Who is More Correct?

Guy Osita is correct in pointing out that the company is still in losses even without the revaluation, and interest expenses are high. However, his understanding of how revaluation is accounted for is flawed.

Guy Street has a better grasp of the nature of forex losses and revaluation, correctly identifying unrealized forex losses as a factor. However, he is wrong in saying the company technically made no loss.


Thus, Guy Street has a stronger argument based on a deeper understanding of forex losses, but his statement about the company not making a loss is incorrect. Guy Osita is right about the losses and interest burden but misunderstands revaluation treatment.


Thank you prof for this
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 5:42pm On Mar 07
FORMATgrin
mcsugk:
Hey everyone, I wanted to share a potential investment opportunity with you called Pcex. It claims to offer daily returns through trading signals. My close friend has had success with it, withdrawing $2,900 after investing $500. However, remember that all investments involve risk, and you should only invest what you can afford to lose. If you're interested in learning more, feel free to reach out to me. This my number 08068363113

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 5:46pm On Mar 07
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mpeace(m): 5:48pm On Mar 07
megawealth01:
Hoarders Lose As Food Prices Crash By 40%


https://guardian.ng/news/hoarders-lose-as-food-prices-crash-by-40/

grin
Story. Where did foodstuff crash by 40%

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 6:14pm On Mar 07
Mpeace:
Story. Where did foodstuff crash by 40%
Lol.. I Wonder.

na to cut down food-money by 40% by next-market-day to confirm the crash. grin
40% bawo! shocked

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 6:21pm On Mar 07
chimex38:

Lol.. I Wonder.

na to cut down food-money by 40% by next-market-day to confirm the crash. grin
40% bawo! shocked

But food prices have gone down

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Youngzedd(m): 6:27pm On Mar 07
Where? PR choke these days.


Fix insecurity and watch food inflation nosedive.


Anything crash when insecurity haven't done fixed is audio.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 6:32pm On Mar 07
Agbalowomeri:


But food prices have gone down
yes I agree.. but not to that extent.

But I think the extent of 40% will be felt more by heavy bulk purchases across items.
Which I never find out yet.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by otokx(m): 8:31pm On Mar 07
Agbalowomeri:


But food prices have gone down

slightly if at all

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Xidget: 8:54pm On Mar 07
Agbalowomeri:


But food prices have gone down
But not 40% grin One cup of peanut for instance went from 500 to 450, Beans from 350 to 300. That's like 10%
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by SonofElElyonRet: 9:04pm On Mar 07
Pepsi went back from N450 to N400
Not food but similar

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 9:30pm On Mar 07
Mpeace:
Story. Where did foodstuff crash by 40%
I don't know the percentage but it is possible based on the price in the market.
The red beans from 11500 to 7500 custard rubber.Good local rice from 11000 to 7500 custard rubber.,One bulb of onion was #500 to #100.The quantity of tomatoes and swt potatoes for same amount has doubled. This what I am sure.
And will come down more next yr because more people are hitting the farm this year because of TPain shege pro max/better insecurity up north

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 9:41pm On Mar 07
mcsugk:
Hey everyone, I wanted to share a potential investment opportunity with you called Pcex. It claims to offer daily returns through trading signals. My close friend has had success with it, withdrawing $2,900 after investing $500. However, remember that all investments involve risk, and you should only invest what you can afford to lose. If you're interested in learning more, feel free to reach out to me. This my number 08068363113
You still dey learn work.Na for local you dey knack maga first bill as 500 dollars. You never sabi work.Na 50 dollars suppose be your first bill
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GeneralDae: 10:22pm On Mar 07
otokx:


slightly if at all
In wholesale markets of places like Kano mostly and for bulk purchases (not all products though).
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by zendi: 11:02pm On Mar 07
SonofElElyonRet:
Pepsi went back from N450 to N400
Not food but similar
What do you mean?
Agege bread ati butter washed down with Pepsi is correct meal to many.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by zendi: 11:40pm On Mar 07
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by KarlTom: 1:04am On Mar 08
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ojeysky(m): 2:10am On Mar 08
KarlTom:
TRANSCORP

https://doclib.ngxgroup.com/Financial_NewsDocs/43303_TRANSNATIONAL_CORPORATION_PLC-_QUARTER_5_-_FINANCIAL_STATEMENT_FOR_2024_FINANCIAL_STATEMENTS_MARCH_2025.pdf

How come transcorp was only able to pay 60k dividend with profit of over 90bn and EPS increase of over 200%. The maths is not adding up o
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mpeace(m): 4:02am On Mar 08
ojeysky:


How come transcorp was only able to pay 60k dividend with profit of over 90bn and EPS increase of over 200%. The maths is not adding up o
Na wickedness. They are paying only 10billion out of 90billion profit after tax
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by SonofElElyonRet: 6:38am On Mar 08
zendi:
What do you mean?
Agege bread ati butter washed down with Pepsi is correct meal to many.
I concur
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by zendi: 6:46am On Mar 08
Mpeace:
Na wickedness. They are paying only 10billion out of 90billion profit after tax
Goodmorning.

The business is for the heirs, not for today's consumption.

If you're not making descendants, don't invest with Heirs Holdings.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Xidget: 7:04am On Mar 08
ojeysky:


How come transcorp was only able to pay 60k dividend with profit of over 90bn and EPS increase of over 200%. The maths is not adding up o
I don't understand this report. If PAT is 90bn, why did they declare EPS as #1.45
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by zendi: 7:05am On Mar 08
Mpeace:
Na wickedness. They are paying only 10billion out of 90billion profit after tax
I trust you're making heirs in pairs.
grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by unite4real: 7:25am On Mar 08
ojeysky:


How come transcorp was only able to pay 60k dividend with profit of over 90bn and EPS increase of over 200%. The maths is not adding up o

I didn't expect the EPS to be less than N5. The profit after tax attributed to owners of parent is N51 Billion. So if the current OS of around 10 Billion was used, the EPS reported is wrong. Even if you used the OS figure pre reconstruction, you still cannot arrive at the N1.45 they reported.

Do they prorate EPS in a year where share reconstruction happens?

Does anyone know why this is happening

I hope the AGM will not be stormy

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