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Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Smooyis(m): 3:15am On Dec 17, 2012 |
There absolutely nothing wrong if GEJ chooses to kneel down publicly before GOD. Muslim presidents also bow down in mosques publicly to Allah. So what's the fuss? GOD is above all! |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by tosinajeyahoocom: 3:59am On Dec 17, 2012 |
is there in ur villages, any man dt too big to kneel before God almighty? |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by dgreatsammie: 4:44am On Dec 17, 2012 |
The fool says in his heart that there is no God. The bible says, let the people that are called by my name humble themself.... He knelt before God Almighty, and that we should all pray for him for wisdom. Mind you, one of your spiritual obligations, is to pray for your leaders. Dont forget king Jehosaphat in the bible. He praise and worship God, and we all know the rest of the story. Lets stop acting like fools, that he knelt before man and not God. Even if he knelt before man, the man is a Man-of-God. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by wirinet(m): 5:26am On Dec 17, 2012 |
Why do nigerian Christians on nairaland pretend to be blind, dumb, blind and brain dead? The main grouse of the poster is president Jonathan kneeling and bowing before Adeboye, and not not kneeling and bowing before God. In pictures, we see the president bowing in front of Adeboye and not God. If you people now represent God with Adeboye, then you have broken the first 3 commandments, which says thou shall not have any other god, thou shall not make any graven image to represent God (Adeboye's image is now a representation of God) and thou shall not bow down before any image. It would have been abominable for the Jews to bow down before any man of god including Moses who brought the commandments. So Christians should stop blaspheming, ADEBOYE IS NOT GOD AND ADEBOYE IS NOT A REPRESENTATIVE OF GOD, he is simply a servant of God. 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Solozzo(m): 5:32am On Dec 17, 2012 |
Alxmyr: The bible tells about the wife of David, the king who despised David for dancing wreaklessly before the people and disgrace himself before Israelites. The king replied her and said, he (David) was dancing before GOD who made him king over Israel and prefer him over Saul, the wife's father. And the result. The wife was the only woman recorded in the bible that died barren. You made a poor example justifying your point. The bible is replete with myths and superstitious beliefs. How can expressing your opinion about your husband's wreckless and possibly alcohol influenced disgraceful public behaviours cause infertility? You have no basic knowledge of human biology. If pastor Adegboye was as humble as he presents himself, he should have knelt down with the president together with the other church embers to pray. Is pastor Adegboye now God? Why does the pastors not kneel down with the congregation to pray? Arrogance!! 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Solozzo(m): 5:37am On Dec 17, 2012 |
wirinet: Why do nigerian Christians on nairaland pretend to be blind, dumb, blind and brain dead? The main grouse of the poster is president Jonathan kneeling and bowing before Adeboye, and not not kneeling and bowing before God. If Adegboye is servant of God why can't he kneel down with the president to pray to God? All pastors learn to be humble with your members. Kneel with them in prayer! |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by proflangdon(m): 5:43am On Dec 17, 2012 |
hardywaltz: Jonathan is a disgrace to the office he holds, i can just imagine Obama or Cameron kneeling before any religious leader. Please, if you don't have anything other thing to do than to criticize a humble Christian, go and sleep!! You think Obama is a Christian?? Well, Christians don't legalize abortion; they don't support gay marriages. Please, a man sees a solution through God and he follows that path. If you don't believe, he believes!! 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Solozzo(m): 5:43am On Dec 17, 2012 |
dgreatsammie: The fool says in his heart that there is no God. The bible says, let the people that are called by my name humble themself.... You take the bible too literally. The bible is not a book of historical facts. But myths and allegories and mysteries packaged together for spiritual enlightenment. Please read more about how the bible came to be, written by sages to establish the Jewish religion, and later on Christianity. |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Solozzo(m): 5:59am On Dec 17, 2012 |
ademo1: You have not shown an iota of the divinity of the Christ in you, nullifying your claim to Christianity. You in your anger forgot one of the cornerstones of divinity -forgiveness, tolerance and self control. You are not even democratic - everyone has a right to an opinion. Why did Adegboye not kneel down with the good president? Arrogance! 1 Like |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by ehispapa(m): 6:01am On Dec 17, 2012 |
pimp_lucious :you are an asshole...is jonathan greater than God? |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by santakris(m): 6:08am On Dec 17, 2012 |
pimp_lucious :Do u know who God is? |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Solozzo(m): 6:14am On Dec 17, 2012 |
DinhoMVP: Author i'm not a fan of GEJ but your post smacks of ignorance of the supremacy of GOD who is GEJ not to even postrate before the altar of the ALMIGHTY guy watch your posts o before you incure CURSE on yourself! Why does Adegboye not prostrate too? |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by xuleiman: 6:17am On Dec 17, 2012 |
jus amazin how xtain feels jona knelt down in praize of thy lord... de last tim i check ur bibble jesus neva knelt down in worship of his lord buh rather in de language of de bible:::HE FELL ON HIS FACE N PRAYED 2 GOD::CHECK UR BIBLE VRY WELL..SO ASK JONA AGAIN WHU DID HE KNEEL DOWN 4..not God i guess |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Solozzo(m): 6:20am On Dec 17, 2012 |
Ileke-IdI: On point!! The bible was written as a means to exploit and control people |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Solozzo(m): 6:31am On Dec 17, 2012 |
OsunOriginal: Just like a pastor put it the other time - "empty hand on empty head" Gbam! Intelligent!!! But remove the tribal bit about the Igbos. Any Nigerian can be corrupt and hypocritical; GEJ is not an Igbo man |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by yettymama45: 6:32am On Dec 17, 2012 |
I don't see anything wrong with jonathan kneeling down in a church,afterall he is kneeling before the God Almighty not the pastor. He really needs prayer |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by kchaste(m): 7:08am On Dec 17, 2012 |
fellis: Jonathan is a disgrace. Foolish thing. He does not know the implication of him, the president and overall head of the country, going on his knees before a pastor. this is not about being redeem.other men of God were there like bishop Davia Oyedepo whom GEJ acknowledge. Pastor Adeboye didnt pray in his name but in the name of the almighty God so please watch the words you say. God bless you 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by pimplucious: 7:16am On Dec 17, 2012 |
ehispapa: So after reading that post, "is Jonathan greater than God" Is what u can deduce from it? Lord, why do Nigerians allow religion to cloud their thinking? I weep for u all! |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by collinsfbi(m): 7:19am On Dec 17, 2012 |
xuleiman: jus amazin how xtain feels jona knelt down in praize of thy lord... de last tim i check ur bibble jesus neva knelt down in worship of his lord buh rather in de language of de bible:::HE FELL ON HIS FACE N PRAYED 2 GOD::CHECK UR BIBLE VRY WELL..SO ASK JONA AGAIN WHU DID HE KNEEL DOWN 4..not God i guessI know you are not a Christian even a devoted muslim will never post such foolish post as yours. In your Bible there is nothing like kneeling down and pray but in mine there are hundreds of act of kneeling before God or a vessel of God and pray to God almighty. Check below extracts from the Holy Bible which I believe is the same thing all over the world and see how people knelt before Jesus and Jesus Himself knelt before God almighty and prayed. Matthew 17:14 “And they having come to the crowd, a man came near to him (Jesus), kneeling down to him, and saying, Lord, have mercy.' Mark 1:40 “Then a leper came to Him, imploring Him, kneeling down to Him and saying to Him, "If You are willing, You can make me clean." Mark 10:17 “And he going out into the way, one running near, and kneeling to him , asked him, Inherently good Teacher, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?' Luke 22:41 And He was withdrawn from them about a stone's throw, and He knelt down and prayed, Luke 5:8 When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees , saying, "Depart from me, for I am a sinful man, O Lord!" Luke 22:41 “And He (Jesus) was withdrawn from them about a stone's throw, and He knelt down and prayed.' Acts 7:60 “Then he knelt down and cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not charge them with this sin." And when he had said this, he fell asleep.' Acts 9:40 “But Peter put them all out, and knelt down and prayed.' Acts 20:36 “And when he had said these things, he knelt down and prayed with them all.' Acts 21:5 “When we had come to the end of those days, we departed and went on our way; and they all accompanied us, with wives and children, till we were out of the city. And we knelt down on the shore and prayed.' Romans 14:11 “For it is written: "As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God." Ephesians 3:14 “For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.' Philippians 2:10,11 “That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow , of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. I Kings 8:54 “And so it was, when Solomon had finished praying all this prayer and supplication to the LORD, that he arose from before the altar of the LORD, from kneeling on his knees with his hands spread up to heaven.' I Kings 18:42 “So Ahab went up to eat and drink. And Elijah went up to the top of Carmel ; then he bowed down on the ground, and put his face between his knees.' 2 Chronicles 6:13 “(for Solomon had made a bronze platform five cubits long, five cubits wide, and three cubits high, and had set it in the midst of the court; and he stood on it , knelt down on his knees before all the assembly of Israel, and spread out his hands toward heaven);' 2 Chronicles 7:3 “And all the children of Israel saw the fire come down and the heavy glory of Jehovah upon the house, and they bent down on their knees with their nostrils to the ground upon the pavement, and prostrated themselves, and raised their hands to Jehovah, because of his goodness, because of his eternal mercy.' 2 Chronicles 7:14 “And if my people which are called by my name shall bend their knees , and judge in prayer, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will attentively hear from the heavens, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.' 2 Chronicles 12:6,7 “And the princes of Israel and the king bent their knees, and they said, Jehovah is righteous. And when Jehovah saw that they bent their knees, the word of Jehovah was to Shemaiah, saying, They have bent their knees ; I will not destroy them.' 2 Chronicles 12:12 “And when he bent his knees the nostrils of Jehovah turned back from him, and he did not destroy him completely, and also in Judah words were good . 2 Chronicles 29:29 And when they had made an end of offering, the king and all found with him bent their knees , and prostrated themselves. 2 Chronicles 34:27 “Because your heart was soft, and you bent your knees before the face of God when you attentively heard his words against this place and against its inhabitants, and you bent your knees before my face, and tore your clothes, and wept before my face - even also I have attentively heard you — An oracle of Jehovah.' Ezra 9:5 “At the evening sacrifice I arose from my fasting; and having torn my garment and my robe, I fell on my knees and spread out my hands to the LORD my God. Psalms 95:6 “Oh come, let us worship and bow down; let us kneel before the LORD our Maker.' Isaiah 45:22-23 "Look to Me, and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. I have sworn by Myself; the word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that to Me every knee shall bow , every tongue shall take an oath.' Daniel 6:10 “Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went home. And in his upper room, with his windows open toward Jerusalem , he knelt down on his knees three times that day, and prayed and gave thanks before his God, as was his custom since early days.' Daniel 10:10 “Suddenly, a hand touched me, which made me tremble on my knees and on the palms of my hands. Try and use your head before posting rubbish. Gbamm over n out 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by kchaste(m): 7:31am On Dec 17, 2012 |
Guys dont just say words cos the thought of it lingers into your heads. Where will ethnicity and religious diversity lead us to. GEJ did what he thought was right. He didnt kneel before Pastor Adeboye but before God. A man who kneels before God can stand before any man. A real man is a man who loves God. Pimp_lucious be careful of the words you say. |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Kay17: 7:33am On Dec 17, 2012 |
proflangdon: Like a leader in a secular state, he is to make non harmful options to the public available, not force down his personal beliefs down ppl's throats. Try to separate the issues |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by witken90(m): 7:35am On Dec 17, 2012 |
[color=#006600][/color]d initiator of dis topic is a muslim,i knelt b4 GOD, if i were him, i would hv done more than dat....read more here |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by rman: 7:41am On Dec 17, 2012 |
GEJ is a very smart man. He knows Nigerians have been brainwashed with religion, and with this singular act, all sins are forgiven. At least millions of Christians will vote for him. Why wont they? Did almighty daddy GO Adeboye not annoint him infront of millions of Nigerians. Jonathan must be the choosen one even if the reality on ground says things are not improving. THIS IS A BIG POLITICAL MOVE AND IT STILL BAFFLES ME PEOPLE DIDNT SEE IT AS SUCH 1 Like |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Adelana85(m): 7:41am On Dec 17, 2012 |
Oluwaseun Osewa, pls kindly watch how the name of my Good Lord n His vessels on earth are being allowed 2 be disrespected thru ur NL page! My God is a jealous God..................... pls! If you knw wht dt means! Whneva I go thru posts on your site, I weep inside of me 4 d kinda youth ds nation is breeding! #selah#....... 1 Like |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by yewee: 7:43am On Dec 17, 2012 |
Am very sure al dis critics re muslim,evenif u say he dnt knw God n he bliv in d man of God definately he can b save.no mata who u b in dis world,u re God's creator n u can neva b big in HIS sight irespective of ur post. |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Hilaskee(m): 7:46am On Dec 17, 2012 |
There is nothing wrong at all. Even Presidents of the world like Abraham Lincoln knelt down for prayers, even Obama...so why shld it been seen as wrong if president Jonathan knees to pray to God & not man. See wat Lincoln have to say; President Abraham Lincoln once said, “I have been driven many times upon my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had nowhere else to go. My own wisdom and that of all about me seemed insufficient for the day.” |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by pastorprosper(m): 7:58am On Dec 17, 2012 |
pimp_lucious : |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by gbigbega: 8:01am On Dec 17, 2012 |
pimp_lucious : pimp_lucious : Which is more ridiculing, President Jonathan kneeling down to recieve prayers from God from a pastor or a mere citizen lambasting the President with all sort of insult. I can tell you that no man will take it lightly with you if you abuse them to this extent, talk more of the President of your country. Its disgust me to see how much insolence and disrespect is shown the President just because he doesn't share your opinion. To tell you the truth, people like you dont amount to anything in life because you have great disregards and disrespect to God's constituted authority. I think you should take a new leave and watch what you say. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by ganex: 8:25am On Dec 17, 2012 |
We should be careful here, cos only de president knows who he knelt down 4 in public likewise Namadi Sambo knows who he bow for in public,be it @ eld-de or mosque. |
Re: Is It Right For Jonathan To Kneel At Redeemed Camp by Okijajuju1(m): 8:27am On Dec 17, 2012 |
1 King 1: 22 While she was still speaking with the king, Nathan the prophet arrived. 23 And the king was told, “Nathan the prophet is here.” So he went before the king and bowed with his face to the ground. 1 Like |
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