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Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by Nobody: 8:16pm On Dec 23, 2012 |
Well, i dont think i've seen such a ceremony before. Its either 100% islamic or 100% christian way. In the other way, a 100% traditional style. I just saw on TV, red carpet tv to be precise, the wedding/nikkai of the daughter of a member of the Ekiti state House of assembly Hon Mrs Oriniowo. It took place between 6th dec - 8th dec 2012. On thursday 6th dec, it was the engagement and the usual traditional razzmattaz. On friday 7th dec, it was a proper islamic nikkai, with the couples fully dressed in islamic attires. Got the marital blessings from the religious leaders. On sat 8th dec, it was the church wedding at the chapels delight church in Alausa Ikeja Lagos(Not too far from the secretariat) The church was filled(as expected, its the daughter of a serving HOA member) same day after the church service, they all proceeded to the popular event centre on billings way oregun in Ikeja Lagos (Grandeur). The reception saw the presence of top Nigerians like the gov and deputy of Ekiti state, Ayo fayose(former ekiti sate gove) and many others. One thing is certain, the couples are christians cos the way they moved in the church. What can u say about this, muslims? wrong or right? I've never witnessed such before. |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by Zaynee63: 9:55pm On Dec 23, 2012 |
I saw it too. Wonder why u think it strange cuz its sort of common in the southwest here. Even my brv did it wuth his christian wife this year. Its not strange at all. If u want to marry a muslim n would wish to remain christian, be ready to do it cuz her family will insist on their own Islamic part of the wedding. Its common. 2 Likes |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by Nobody: 10:15pm On Dec 23, 2012 |
Zaynee63: I saw it too. Wonder why u think it strange cuz its sort of common in the southwest here. Even my brv did it wuth his christian wife this year. Its not strange at all. If u want to marry a muslim n would wish to remain christian, be ready to do it cuz her family will insist on their own Islamic part of the wedding. Its common.great. I hope i can take a muslim wife now. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by sammieone(m): 1:42pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
In candid interest, is it bad? Sincerely my babe want a nikkah and am a christian. We will have nikai on friday (as planned) prior the saturday event (although I have not made up my mind if we will do church service).... Am christian and she is from muslim family. |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by faporori24: 1:43pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
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Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by k2039: 1:45pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
[color=soyouquotedme]What was the OP's question? [/color] What can u say about this, muslims? wrong or right? [color=soyouquotedme]My answer: They are Left. This must be the question of the century, if it wasn't right, do you think they would have done it? Besides why didn't the OP question if the christians were right? [/color] |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by DANILSA(m): 1:46pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
WHAT IS NIKKAI? DO WE MEAN WELL THAT IS CALLED RELIGIOUS CONFUSION AND INDECISION. |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by papagiddy(m): 1:52pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
but quran forbids a christian taking a moslem wife.na death o! |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by Siddeek: 1:54pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
God4bid me marry xtian. 4 wat? Marriage is soppose 2 be muslim,muslim tin or xtian, xtian tin and not d oda way rnd. 2 Likes |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by outrage: 1:58pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
[size=13pt]islamic wedding today and church wedding tomorrow!? Chei!! People get question to aswer on tht final day o! Omo see re-writing of religious rules.. [/size] Its sad, but can't help it *falls from mango tree* 3 Likes |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by Eneze1(f): 2:04pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
outrage: [size=13pt]islamic wedding today and church wedding tomorrow!? Chei!! People get question to aswer on tht final day o! hp u did not break ur head |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by mkoabiola: 2:04pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
Which eva way muslim/xtain. D main tin,na make men of God either islam/pastor bless d marriage followed by item 77 and leav d rest for God. Are we God?NO! |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by tohirah(f): 2:07pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
I want to believe both are not so serious abt their religion. Marriage is supposed to be something that covers every aspect of ones life.marry someone that compliments you in all aspect;someone that helps you with ur faith. Even the quran and bible says so 2 Likes |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by osifred(m): 3:02pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
The beginning of confusion in the home. |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by anishe(m): 3:08pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
This is strictly forbidden in Islam. A muslim lady is not allowed to marry a non-muslim, sl also, a non-muslim lady to be married by a muslim man must have first converted before the marriage can go ahead. Islam has its own laws, whether we follow it or not does not change the Laws. People can practice whatever they like, but Islam has its own Laws. |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by rman: 3:29pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
I don't see anything wrong with it. A few homes in the SW(YORUBA) started like this ( muslim marrying a christian ), and the marriages have been successful with both spouses maintaining their religious beliefs. A lot of christian/christain marriges have failed while we also have a lot of muslim/muslim marriages that have failed too. If you feel religion is key to the success of your marriage then it will play a key role. Those that don't want it to play a key role will still have successful marriages. It is the individuals involved that determines the success of their union. We are just too pre-occupied with religion and societal expectation instead of happiness and living life to the fullest. A lot of people married the wrong people while jettisoning a great LOVE/RELATIONSHIP due to religious differences. The couple in the OP post are teaching and showing us what religious tolerance and true love is. Everyone that claims they will never marry someone from another religion is simply a regious bigot that can not tolerate other people religious beliefs. 5 Likes |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by tbaba1234: 3:33pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
anishe: This is strictly forbidden in Islam. A muslim lady is not allowed to marry a non-muslim, sl also, a non-muslim lady to be married by a muslim man must have first converted before the marriage can go ahead. Islam has its own laws, whether we follow it or not does not change the Laws. People can practice whatever they like, but Islam has its own Laws. Salam, The bolded is incorrect, A muslim man can marry a chaste christian or Jew without the person becoming muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, the person should convert by their own conviction. It is not an ideal condition but there is no pre condition for conversion before marriage. Allah says in Surah Maidah: Today all good things have been made lawful for you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful for you as your food is lawful for them. So are chaste, believing, women as well as chaste women of the people who were given the Scripture before you, as long as you have given them their bride-gifts and married them, not taking them as lovers or secret mistresses. (Surah maidah:5) 7 Likes |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by mkoabiola: 3:40pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
rman: I don't see anything wrong with it.On point. Gbam!!! |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by Nobody: 4:15pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
tbaba1234: Wa salam waramatul llahi, Thanks 4 d insight....... I was about to post the same thing!!! anishe: This is strictly forbidden in Islam. A muslim lady is not allowed to marry a non-muslim, sl also, a non-muslim lady to be married by a muslim man must have first converted before the marriage can go ahead. Islam has its own laws, whether we follow it or not does not change the Laws. People can practice whatever they like, but Islam has its own Laws. Muslims can marry chaste christians/jews!!!! The laws are still intact.....No Infringement in this case!!!! |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by PAGAN9JA(m): 4:55pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
THIS IS SAD. It shows the slave mentality Nigerians today suffer from. they would rathar choose all the foreign methods rathar than their own Traiditional one. FOR SHAME! |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by Akiika: 5:13pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
They can even afford to run the wedding for a week...afterall STOLEN money abounds to waste!!! |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by tpia5: 5:39pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
whatever works for them, the rest of us are only spectators. |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by yurLink: 6:40pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
at the risk of sounding like i have a bias for yoruba people,i would say this is one of the major plus for SW People, where people have come to see what faith you practice as a personal relationship between you and God or whatever...i always say to religious bigots that if God wanted it so, he could have made only one religion, but he chose not to do so, so why do we continue to fight each other< just try to be good to one another and am sure you would have discovered the true essence of religion...ma salam |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by Nobody: 7:49pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
OP that's what I did too ...... very exhausting tho |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by outrage: 7:54pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
donroxy:Correction.. Its a muslim man- chaste christain/jew but not the other way around.. yur Link: at the risk of sounding like i have a bias for yoruba people,i would say this is one of the major plus for SW People, where people have come to see what faith you practice as a personal relationship between you and God or whatever...i always say to religious bigots that if God wanted it so, he could have made only one religion, but he chose not to do so, so why do we continue to fight each other< just try to be good to one another and am sure you would have discovered the true essence of religion...ma salamHe made only one religion.. "This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion" quran 5:3 |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by tohirah(f): 8:37pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
yur Link: at the risk of sounding like i have a bias for yoruba people,i would say this is one of the major plus for SW People, where people have come to see what faith you practice as a personal relationship between you and God or whatever...i always say to religious bigots that if God wanted it so, he could have made only one religion, but he chose not to do so, so why do we continue to fight each other< just try to be good to one another and am sure you would have discovered the true essence of religion...ma salam Sorry to ask ooo;but are you a muslim?? I aint claiming to be better than you spiritually ooo. But the thing I see in the quran is just as outrage said: outrage: What distinguishes a believer frm a kafir is seeing the sings of God and either taking cognisance of it or you choose to toss in the thrash. There is just one religion but man has created more religion frm among themselves and these are not institutions ordained by God. |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by hasino21: 8:45pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
Dats rubish! No any islamic oriented person wil do or even support weddin. Som1 may bear a muslim name without knowin anyfin abt d religion n dats d hieght of ignorance. Wedding nikkah 2day, church wedding 2mao. Tufiakwa!!! |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by Ymodulus: 12:01am On Dec 29, 2012 |
first of all it would be important knowing that the quran is contradicting on its beliefs i speak with facts. ok let us go no 1. To Marry or Not to Marry? The Qur'an forbids believers to marry idolatrous women [Sura 2:221], and calls Christians idolaters and unbelievers [9:28-33], but still allows Muslims to marry Christian women [5:5]. no2. |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by Ymodulus: 12:18am On Dec 29, 2012 |
ANOTHER CONTRACDICTION Question: Can a Muslim man marry a Christian or a Jew? Please explain. - Sheikh Tahir Answer: It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a woman from the People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians), only if they fulfill certain criteria. Allah (swt) says: “And (Lawful in marriage are) chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you…” [Surah Al-Maidah 5:5] Based on the above verse, most of the scholars say that a Muslim man can marry any woman who is a Jew or a Christian. On the other hand, if we read the Qur’an as a whole, Allah (swt) also says that Muslims are not allowed to marry Mushriks i.e. people who associate partners with Allah (swt). “And do not marry Mushrik (polytheistic) women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you.” [Surah Al-Baqarah 2:221] Moreover, we find that the Jews and the Christians too associate partners with Allah (swt). Says Allah (swt) in the Glorious Qur’an: “They (Jews and the Christians) have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and (also) the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.” [Surah At- Tawbah 9:31] The Christians, who claim that Jesus (pbuh) is God as well as the Son of God, insist on the supposed divinity of Jesus (pbuh) and worship him as such. “They have certainly disbelieved who say, “Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary” while the Messiah has said, “O children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” Indeed he who associates other with Allah – Allah has forbidden him paradise and his refuge is the fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helper From the above-mentioned verses and many such verses of the Qur'an, it is very clear that almost all the present day Jews and the Christians are committing shirk by joining partners with Allah (swt). Apparently, it appears to be a “contradiction” in the Qur’an, since at one place Allah (swt) forbids Muslims from marrying Mushriks, whereas at another place He allows Muslim men to marry women from the Jews and the Christians, most of who as per the Qur'anic narrations are Mushriks too i.e. those who associate partners with Allah (swt). ==== [b] In another verse of the Glorious Qur’an, Allah (swt) conciliates all the above verses by informing us that among the Jews and the Christians there are also people who are true believers i.e. they believe in only one God and do not associate partners with Allah (swt). It says, “Among them (Jews and the Christians) are believers but most of them are defiantly disobedient.” [Surah Ali Imran 3:110] [b] 1 Like |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by dvee2: 2:35am On Dec 29, 2012 |
Ymodulus: ANOTHER CONTRACDICTION Ymodulus: ANOTHER CONTRACDICTION Ymodulus: ANOTHER CONTRACDICTION Take this as another clear example of how some men wrongly interprete the word of God by infering and drawing wrong conclusion. You rightly quoted above that it is permisable for a muslim man to marry a christian or jew female. However, Allah in his infinite mercy says a muslim should not marry a Mushriks,Allah id not in any place equates Mushriks to be christians or jews. It is you that now defines Mushriks to be Christians or jews. you see clearly how we start to cause confusion. If Allah wants to call Christins or Jews Mushriks, he would have done that but no where in the quoran where Christian/Jews called Mushriks. Rather they are refered to as the people of the book etc. 2 Likes |
Re: Your Thoughts On A Combined Wedding/Nikkai Ceremony by Ymodulus: 2:51am On Dec 29, 2012 |
dvee2: [color=#000099][/color] Before I answer your specific question, it would be appropriate to first take a close look at the two terms "Mushrik" and " Kaafir ", as only after that can we say whether the Christians, Jews or adherents of any other religion fall in these categories or not. Let us first take the term " Kaafir ". " Kaafir" in the Arabic language means "rejecter". The term " Kaafir", normally taken to be synonymous with "non-Muslim" or "non-believer", is quite different from the two terms. A "non- Muslim", obviously, is a person who does not adhere to the Muslim faith. Thus, all those who do not ascribe to the Muslim faith are "non-Muslims". A "non-believer" is generally used for a person who does not believe in God and the Day of Judgment. "Kaafir ", on the other hand, is a person who knowingly rejects the truth. A person may not believe in some 'truth' for a number of reasons. For instance, he may not be fully convinced of some aspect of that 'truth' or he may have some doubts in his mind regarding that truth. However, if all doubts are removed from his mind and he becomes fully convinced of that truth, yet he persists in not accepting it or persists in ascribing to a wrong belief after becoming certain of its incorrectness, he then becomes a " Kaafir" and is no longer just a "non-Muslim" or a "non-believer". In other words, all those people who persist in not accepting Islam after being fully convinced that Islam is the truth of the Almighty or persist in ascribing to a false belief after being convinced of its incorrectness are " Kaafirs" or rejecters of the truth. All others for our purposes are "non- Muslims" or "non-believers ". This explanation, if considered closely, should clarify the fact that we cannot call anyone a "Kaafir " unless we have absolute knowledge of the reasons for his rejection of faith (or Islam), which we do not possess. Thus, for the purpose of this world, we should not call anyone a "Kaafir ". It is only God, Who with His absolute knowledge can declare someone a " Kaafir ". No one besides God possesses the knowledge that is essential to declare someone a " Kaafir ". Thus, we know on the basis of God's declaration in the Qur'an that the Jews and the Christians (and those ascribing to other faiths) during the time of the Prophet (pbuh) refused to believe in the Prophet (pbuh) even after being fully convinced of his prophethood and were, therefore, termed " Kaafir" by the Almighty. As far as the Jews and the Christians of later times are concerned, we do not have adequate knowledge of the reasons for their rejection to term them " Kaafir ". God, on the Day of Judgment, shall give the decision regarding these Jews and Christians. Those, among them, who refused to accept Islam and the prophethood of Mohammed (pbuh) , although they were fully convinced of it being the truth, shall stand in the category of " Kaafirs" on the Day of Judgment. The term "Mushrik", like the term " Kaafir" has also been slightly misused. It is not just ascribing to a polytheistic belief that makes a person a "Mushrik". According to the Qur'an , "Mushrik" is one who ascribes partners to God. and christiaan believs in trinity. 3 partners of god. god d fada, d son and holy spirit |
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