I have read some folks criticism over the proposed US military action to tame Northern Muslim Elites, Boko Haram.

Now, which of the two do you guys prefer?

USA drones or Boko Harams SLAUGHTERING of CHRISTIANS "DAILY"

If your argument is based on USA taking over the " RESOURCES" ( FYI, OIL GAS is not the future anymore and that's the only thing Nigeria has to offer)in Nigeria, better wake up. The resources have been plundered by your ELITES.

none!!!!

We don't want CIA in Nigeria anymore. We have suffered enough! Our freedom is in danger.

Our military can handle Boko Haram if GEJ will just be sincere for once about fighting this shiit!!

Nobody wins a war with a FACELESS group, remember Vietnam, Afghan, etc, the problem is not Jonathan. Even if you move the Pentagon, to Maidugiri, it will not be that easy, cos, they're FACELESS, COWARDS and the Northern Muslim Elites are behind it, only then can stop this their BS

TRUTHTELA: Nobody wins a war with a FACELESS group, remember Vietnam, Afghan, etc, the problem is not Jonathan. Even if you move the Pentagon, to Maidugiri, it will not be that easy, cos, they're FACELESS, COWARDS and the Northern Muslim Elites are behind it, only then can stop this their BS

Are Northern Muslim elites also responsible for Islamists' uprising in Mali? hahahahahahahah

Put the pieces of the puzzle together; you'll know something is globally fishy.

Islamists weren't this deadly until Africom came in. American military has already been on African soil.

And since they came, militancy got more deadly, Islamic terrorists got more deadly.

Don't forget so soon.

I don't know about about Mali, I can only discuss what I'm informed about, which is, Northern Muslims, have been killing Christians, as far back as 60's, as the world develops, they have to DEVELOP too ( suicide bombings), the killing of "INFIDELS" as a manipulation tool for the Northern Muslim elites. People have to learn how to ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for whatever befalls them. Is it Africom that's responsible for Nigeria's failure? Did africom as the Obasanjo and his cohorts to LOOT everything " LOOTABLE" ? Did Africom, asked Bankole, Farouk,Kalu, Atiku, to steal public funds?

Get this, USA, is a SUPERPOWER, meaning, they can invade Nigeria, if they so wish, it's very simple, (stage a bombing around their interest in Nigeria, and they'll use that as an excuse to move in). FYI, USA, hit TERRORIST groups in Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, without any of their Governments approval. All they need is to have a reliable INTELLIGENCE, that their target is visible, BAM!!!!

TRUTHTELA: I don't know about about Mali, I can only discuss what I'm informed about, which is, Northern Muslims, have been killing Christians, as far back as 60's, as the world develops, they have to DEVELOP too ( suicide bombings), the killing of "INFIDELS" as a manipulation tool for the Northern Muslim elites. People have to learn how to ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for whatever befalls them. Is it Africom that's responsible for Nigeria's failure? Did africom as the Obasanjo and his cohorts to LOOT everything " LOOTABLE" ? Did Africom, asked Bankole, Farouk,Kalu, Atiku, to steal public funds?

Get this, USA, is a SUPERPOWER, meaning, they can invade Nigeria, if they so wish, it's very simple, (stage a bombing around their interest in Nigeria, and they'll use that as an excuse to move in). FYI, USA, hit TERRORIST groups in Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, without any of their Governments approval. All they need is to have a reliable INTELLIGENCE, that their target is visible, BAM!!!!

Hahahaha ok I'm done debating with you. And no!! USA can not invade Nigeria if they wish to without causing regional uprising!

How has Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan turn out?

Ok, I can't debate a novice in world issues. Drop your idea of "Northern Muslims" sponsoring Boko Haram and start to look at things from a different angle.

Who sponsored Al Qaeda before? Everywhere US/NATO has forcefully intervened become war zones. Libya that was the envy of African nations is gone to the dogs and Islamists.

You know little about global issues. Just stick to calling Northerners terrorists hahahah... kpele..

@op, None of the above. I don't really know what i want now :/, can i take some time to think about it?

Boko Haram can be dealt with politically but once the drones start flying, you're on your own....

0lumide:

Hahahaha ok I'm done debating with you. And no!! USA can not invade Nigeria if they wish to without causing regional uprising!

How has Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan turn out?

Ok, I can't debate a novice in world issues. Drop your idea of "Northern Muslims" sponsoring Boko Haram and start to look at things from a different angle.

Who sponsored Al Qaeda before? Everywhere US/NATO has forcefully intervened become war zones. Libya that was the envy of African nations is gone to the dogs and Islamists.

You know little about global issues. Just stick to calling Northerners terrorists hahahah... kpele..

Sir, you don't have to call me a "NOVICE", we're sharing knowledge, and if you feel that you're an 'encyclopedia" bring it on.

You wrote about ' regional uprising", do you think that if USA,wants to be RUTHLESS, they'll care about REGIONAL INSTABILITY??

Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan turned out the way "PROPHET Mohamed" wanted it to.

Point of correction, Libya, ( the grass always look greener in a neighbor's house) was nobody's "ENVY" the citizens were dying in silence and there was no VOICE to SPEAK out about the REAL situation on ground. When the people had their opportunity ( ARAB SPRING) they chased the ROGUE EMPEROR and his kids away.

Answer me, Northern Muslims have been killing Christians, as way back as 60's, when there was nothing like Africom, TRUE or FALSE?? If it's not Northern Muslims, why do you have Northern elites calling on Jonathan to 'negotiate" with them (Africom)? Ciroma, & his blood sucking cohorts said it LOUD and CLEAR that they'll make Nigeria UNGOVERNABLE. is he the spokesman for Africom??

Nigeria is already at WAR!!!

nifemi01: @op, None of the above. I don't really know what i want now :/, can i take some time to think about it?

Yep, take your time buddy!

TRUTHTELA:

Sir, you don't have to call me a "NOVICE", we're sharing knowledge, and if you feel that you're an 'encyclopedia" bring it on.

You wrote about ' regional uprising", do you think that if USA,wants to be RUTHLESS, they'll care about REGIONAL INSTABILITY??

Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan turned out the way "PROPHET Mohamed" wanted it to.

Point of correction, Libya, ( the grass always look greener in a neighbor's house) was nobody's "ENVY" the citizens were dying in silence and there was no VOICE to SPEAK out about the REAL situation on ground. When the people had their opportunity ( ARAB SPRING) they chased the ROGUE EMPEROR and his kids away.

Answer me, Northern Muslims have been killing Christians, as way back as 60's TRUE or FALSE?? If it's not Northern Muslims, why do you have Northern elites calling on Jonathan to 'negotiate" with them? Ciroma, & his blood sucking cohorts said it LOUD and CLEAR that they'll make Nigeria UNGOVERNABLE. is he the spokesman for Africom??

I have been to Libya! I was there for on and off for 2 years when my mom worked there as a surgeon in a military hospital. This gave me the chance to know a different terrain.

Dude, Libya was probably the most human focused developed nation in the world!! Are you serious? You know nothing about what Qaddafi did for his people?

If there is an uprising in Nigeria, West Africa will be in trouble and eventually, the trouble will consume the entire continent which will affect America by far economically. They don't wanna be ruthless in Africa right now bro. They can't afford to. .War in Africa can cause an uprising in America which America can not afford.

Tell me something, Have you been to Libya before? No? Then don't talk about Libyans suffering. You know nothing about Libya apart from what you watch on CNN. Qaddafi was going to be given an award for human development by UN.

His generals who ordered massacre on his people were the ones who quickly deflected to the rebel sides. And Qaddafi was shouting that the whole rebellion was orchestrated not by his people. But no, it's not on CNN so you won't know about it.

Don't say what you don't know then I won't insult you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtykfmGwacs

Don't ridicule the truth as conspiracy theory. Listen to the guy and tell me what you think first if the evidence on ground don't relate.

I see it's all about religion to you and not common sense.

I'll give you a long ass video to watch...

Watch the entire series from Part 1 to 6 if you really wanna learn. Then we can start to debate on the true nature of wars, orchestrated uprisings and the few examples of revolution.

We need drones, they are more efficient at taking out terrorists. They should also bring robotic armies, the jtf are heavily compromised

Sir, from airport to military hospital doesn't mean you know all about Libya. Any "Human Development" that you saw in Libya, and that "development" EXCLUDED their God given RIGHTS, which are FREEDOM OF SPEECH, ASSOCIATION, etc, is no DEVELOPMENT. I asked you some questions about the origin of SENSELESS BARBARIC KILLING OF CHRISTIANS in Northern Nigeria, you didn't answer, however, YOU CAN CALL NAMES or INSULT me, IT WILL NEVER, EVER BOTHER ME, rather, it's a REFLECTION of WEAKNESS & IMMATURITY on your side. You criticize CNN, and you want someone to watch or believe this your video and its opinion.

You and Qadaffi's insinuations that the UPRISING was "orchestrated", is LAUGHABLE, cos, that's how Jonathan called the subsidy protest an event " STAGED or ORCHESTRATED BY THE OPPOSITION. YOU SAW HUGE INFRASTRUCTURAL DEVELOPMENT in Libya, to the Libyan's they wanted more than that, which is FREEDOM, FREEDOM, dude, FREEDOM is PRICELESS!. INFRASTRUCTURE is no BIG DEAL, Qadaffi, didn't do them any FAVOR, cos he didn't build them with his PERSONAL MONEY, it was from the PEOPLE's COMMON WEALTH, does he have a choice? A case in point, When Abacha, was terrorizing Nigerians, did they bother about how much he was LOOTING? They were fighting for their FREEDOM.

0lumide:

I have been to Libya! I was there for on and off for 2 years when my mom worked there as a surgeon in a military hospital. This gave me the chance to know a different terrain.

Dude, Libya was probably the most human focused developed nation in the world!! Are you serious? You know nothing about what Qaddafi did for his people?

If there is an uprising in Nigeria, West Africa will be in trouble and eventually, the trouble will consume the entire continent which will affect America by far economically. They don't wanna be ruthless in Africa right now bro. They can't afford to. .War in Africa can cause an uprising in America which America can not afford.

Tell me something, Have you been to Libya before? No? Then don't talk about Libyans suffering. You know nothing about Libya apart from what you watch on CNN. Qaddafi was going to be given an award for human development by UN.

His generals who ordered massacre on his people were the ones who quickly deflected to the rebel sides. And Qaddafi was shouting that the whole rebellion was orchestrated not by his people. But no, it's not on CNN so you won't know about it.

Don't say what you don't know then I won't insult you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtykfmGwacs

Don't ridicule the truth as conspiracy theory. Listen to the guy and tell me what you think first if the evidence on ground don't relate.

I see it's all about religion to you and not common sense.

I'll give you a long ass video to watch...

Watch the entire series from Part 1 to 6 if you really wanna learn. Then we can start to debate on the true nature of wars, orchestrated uprisings and the few examples of revolution.

Sir, from airport to military hospital doesn't mean you know all about Libya. Any "Human Development" that you saw in Libya, and that "development" EXCLUDED their God given RIGHTS, which are FREEDOM OF SPEECH, ASSOCIATION, etc, is no DEVELOPMENT. I asked you some questions about the origin of SENSELESS BARBARIC KILLING OF CHRISTIANS in Northern Nigeria, you didn't answer, however, YOU CAN CALL NAMES or INSULT me, IT WILL NEVER, EVER BOTHER ME, rather, it's a REFLECTION of WEAKNESS & IMMATURITY on your side. You criticize CNN, and you want someone to watch or believe this your video and its opinion.

You and Qadaffi's insinuations that the UPRISING was "orchestrated", is LAUGHABLE, cos, that's how Jonathan called the subsidy protest an event " STAGED or ORCHESTRATED BY THE OPPOSITION. YOU SAW HUGE INFRASTRUCTURAL DEVELOPMENT in Libya, to the Libyan's they wanted more than that, which is FREEDOM, FREEDOM, dude, FREEDOM is PRICELESS!. INFRASTRUCTURE is no BIG DEAL, Qadaffi, didn't do them any FAVOR, cos he didn't build them with his PERSONAL MONEY, it was from the PEOPLE's COMMON WEALTH, does he have a choice? A case in point, When Abacha, was terrorizing Nigerians, did they bother about how much he was LOOTING? They were fighting for their FREEDOM. If you and Qadaffi, claimed that the USA sponsored the uprising in Libya, did they sponsored the uprisings in Tunisia, and Egypt ( where they lost their greatest ALLY in the Middle East)?? People should learn to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY and stop blaming the WRONG people.

TRUTHTELA: I have read some folks criticism over the proposed US military action to tame Northern Muslim Elites, Boko Haram.

Now, which of the two do you guys prefer?

USA drones or Boko Harams SLAUGHTERING of CHRISTIANS "DAILY"

If your argument is based on USA taking over the " RESOURCES" ( FYI, OIL GAS is not the future anymore and that's the only thing Nigeria has to offer)in Nigeria, better wake up. The resources have been plundered by your ELITES.

First of all, I take exception you your erroneouys characterization of Boko Haram as Northern Muslim Elites. This characterization smacks of ignorance and lack of understanding of the Nigerian condition.

I trust the characterization of Boko Haram which was provided by the late Gen. Owoeye Azazi, to wit: The government, PDP, and some godfathers from the North

Are you telling us that you want US military to come and fight the government, PDP, and some godfathers from the North, and you except the same government which would be under attack to sanction the said millitary action? Oga mi, that military action will not happen as long as GEJ is the President.

I believe Azazi's characterization - the man probably gave his life for speaking up.

TRUTHTELA:

Sir, from airport to military hospital doesn't mean you know all about Libya. Any "Human Development" that you saw in Libya, and that "development" EXCLUDED their God given RIGHTS, which are FREEDOM OF SPEECH, ASSOCIATION, etc, is no DEVELOPMENT. I asked you some questions about the origin of SENSELESS BARBARIC KILLING OF CHRISTIANS in Northern Nigeria, you didn't answer, however, YOU CAN CALL NAMES or INSULT me, IT WILL NEVER, EVER BOTHER ME, rather, it's a REFLECTION of WEAKNESS & IMMATURITY on your side. You criticize CNN, and you want someone to watch or believe this your video and its opinion.

You and Qadaffi's insinuations that the UPRISING was "orchestrated", is LAUGHABLE, cos, that's how Jonathan called the subsidy protest an event " STAGED or ORCHESTRATED BY THE OPPOSITION. YOU SAW HUGE INFRASTRUCTURAL DEVELOPMENT in Libya, to the Libyan's they wanted more than that, which is FREEDOM, FREEDOM, dude, FREEDOM is PRICELESS!. INFRASTRUCTURE is no BIG DEAL, Qadaffi, didn't do them any FAVOR, cos he didn't build them with his PERSONAL MONEY, it was from the PEOPLE's COMMON WEALTH, does he have a choice? A case in point, When Abacha, was terrorizing Nigerians, did they bother about how much he was LOOTING? They were fighting for their FREEDOM. If you and Qadaffi, claimed that the USA sponsored the uprising in Libya, did they sponsored the uprisings in Tunisia, and Egypt ( where they lost their greatest ALLY in the Middle East)?? People should learn to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY and stop blaming the WRONG people.

Listen, I'm not pro democratic because democracy guarantees nothing but the fact that millions of people with bigotry blinded ideologies like your self have a right to choose a leader who they have no idea of but have a propagandized image of.

So to counter my experience of Qaddafi's performance, you said I've only been to airport and hospital in Libya. I've stayed as long as 8months in Libya adn actually made friends with non Muslims and Muslims there.. Life was easy there mehn. No beggars, homeless or destitution. In fact the strip clubs had to import women Europe as no Libyan woman would do such. How many times have you met a Libyan leaving their country? Or will you lie that Qaddafi didn't allow them?

My guy, I won't debate your likes again as it seems like I have to pull you out of oblivion first. And that, I'm not wise enough to do.

ndu_chucks:

First of all, I take exception you your erroneouys characterization of Boko Haram as Northern Muslim Elites. This characterization smacks of ignorance and lack of understanding of the Nigerian condition.

I trust the characterization of Boko Haram which was provided by the late Gen. Owoeye Azazi, to wit: The government, PDP, and some godfathers from the North

Are you telling us that you want US military to come and fight the government, PDP, and some godfathers from the North, and you except the same government which would be under attack to sanction the said millitary action? Oga mi, that military action will not happen as long as GEJ is the President.

I believe Azazi's characterization - the man probably gave his life for speaking up.

Your ignorance led to you CONTRADICTING yourself. Boko Haram is the military wing of the Northern Elites that was schemed out PDP power play. Azazi, was just polite when he mentioned PDP, he knew where he was going with that, ( he meant Northern elites in PDP, cos the Elites of South WEST, EAST and South-South are benefiting from the present arrangement), only the Northern Elites are DISGRUNTLED. When Adamu Ciroma, said "they'll make nigeria UNGOVERNABLE", do you think he was kidding? So far, Senator Ndume ( northern elite) & his cohorts have been nabbed communicating with the "REAL or POLITICAL Boko". Northern Elites, are PEASANTS and only the resources from the Southern Nigeria, can keep food on their table.

Question: Why is it that Elites from other regions are beating the DRUMS of DISINTEGRATION ( they want to stay on their own), only the Northern Elites want to CLING to the REPUBLIC. Why?

0lumide:

Listen, I'm not pro democratic because democracy guarantees nothing but the fact that millions of people with bigotry blinded ideologies like your self have a right to choose a leader who they have no idea of but have a propagandized image of.

So to counter my experience of Qaddafi's performance, you said I've only been to airport and hospital in Libya. I've stayed as long as 8months in Libya adn actually made friends with non Muslims and Muslims there.. Life was easy there mehn. No beggars, homeless or destitution. In fact the strip clubs had to import women Europe as no Libyan woman would do such. How many times have you met a Libyan leaving their country? Or will you lie that Qaddafi didn't allow them?

My guy, I won't debate your likes again as it seems like I have to pull you out of oblivion first. And that, I'm not wise enough to do.

Sir, any INTELLIGENT mind don't get upset in a debate, cos, he has his FACTS to thrill you with. Only the WEAK ones resort to ANGER, NAME CALLING & INSULTS. I know that DEMOCRACY is not an end itself, but, it's a MEANS to an END, meaning, democracy doesn't guarantee the citizens the BEST government. A case in point, communist China, has lifted millions out of poverty, they don't need democracy to achieve that, however, the chinese people are yearning for FREEDOM (democracy) and I can assure you this, when the time comes, the chinese people will REVOLT against their leaders. Again, Qadaffi, didn't practice what he preached to his people. You can't be against the West, yet, your kids are allover the West nations LAVISHING Libyan resources. Every human being has the RIGHT to chose who he want as a LEADER. DEMOCRACY is good. God appoint Qadafi, Saddam, etc to RULE forever.

TRUTHTELA:

Your ignorance led to you CONTRADICTING yourself. Boko Haram is the military wing of the Northern Elites that was schemed out PDP power play. Azazi, was just polite when he mentioned PDP, he knew where he was going with that, ( he meant Northern elites in PDP, cos the Elites of South WEST, EAST and South-South are benefiting from the present arrangement), only the Northern Elites are DISGRUNTLED. When Adamu Ciroma, said "they'll make nigeria UNGOVERNABLE", do you think he was kidding? So far, Senator Ndume ( northern elite) & his cohorts have been nabbed communicating with the "REAL or POLITICAL Boko". Northern Elites, are PEASANTS and only the resources from the Southern Nigeria, can keep food on their table.

Question: Why is it that Elites from other regions are beating the DRUMS of DISINTEGRATION ( they want to stay on their own), only the Northern Elites want to CLING to the REPUBLIC. Why?

I gladly accept being labelled ignorant, and will continue to try to educate myself to deal with the problem. I submit that your own case is worse than ignorance, your intellectual dishonesty is apalling.

According to Azazi, BH = government, PDP, and some godfathers from the North. But in a blatant display of intellectual dishonesty, you limit BH to Northern elites. You can continue to sell your bigoted idea to your fellow dullards, but don't try that with me. mumu

ndu_chucks:

I gladly accept being labelled ignorant, and will continue to try to educate myself to deal with the problem. I submit that your own case is worse than ignorance, your intellectual dishonesty is apalling.

According to Azazi, BH = government, PDP, and some godfathers from the North. But in a blatant display of intellectual dishonesty, you limit BH to Northern elites. You can continue to sell your bigoted idea to your fellow dullards, but don't try that with me. mumu

Wow, what sort of IGNORANCE is this? The Government Azazi, mentioned, he'still referring to the Northern elites in Govt. PDP- Still the Northern elites in PDP, and of course, the God fathers in the North. are still Northern elites. The NORTHERN ELITES ARE BEHIND BH, cos, their spokesman, Ciroma, said what they'll do and they've been doing it. Mr Dunce, the NORTHERN ELITES are the only ELITES very bitter with Jonathan. They lost out of the power scheme. If its not NORTHERN ELITES, is it the South-south elites that are enjoying the LOOT? Mugu, all the wealthy Northerners, STOLE their wealth from the OIL and resources in the Southern Nigeria. Atiku, Danjuma, IBB, Bamanga Tukur, Dangote, Yar'adua's etc, name them. They all have oil wells, shipping lines and all other businesses that flourish in the South. Or did they make their money from the OIL WELLS in Yobe and Katsina?? Or their shipping line docks at River Benue? Lugard told them and the British reaffirmed it to them during the civil war, " IF YOU EVER ALLOW THE SOUTHERN NIGERIA TO GO THEIR OWN WAY, HUNGER WILL NOT LEAVE YOUR DOOR STEP".Yes!!

TRUTHTELA:

Wow, what sort of IGNORANCE is this? The Government Azazi, mentioned, he'still referring to the Northern elites in Govt. PDP- Still the Northern elites in PDP, and of course, the God fathers in the North. are still Northern elites. The NORTHERN ELITES ARE BEHIND BH, cos, their spokesman, Ciroma, said what they'll do and they've been doing it. Mr Dunce, the NORTHERN ELITES are the only ELITES very bitter with Jonathan. They lost out of the power scheme. If its not NORTHERN ELITES, is it the South-south elites that are enjoying the LOOT? Mugu, all the wealthy Northerners, STOLE their wealth from the OIL and resources in the Southern Nigeria. Atiku, Danjuma, IBB, Bamanga Tukur, Dangote, Yar'adua's etc, name them. They all have oil wells, shipping lines and all other businesses that flourish in the South. Or did they make their money from the OIL WELLS in Yobe and Katsina?? Or their shipping line docks at River Benue? Lugard told them and the British reaffirmed it to them during the civil war, " IF YOU EVER ALLOW THE SOUTHERN NIGERIA TO GO THEIR OWN WAY, HUNGER WILL NOT LEAVE YOUR DOOR STEP".Yes!!

Oga, why neutralize your sensibilities with this level of bigotry? You do yourselve a great disservice with this act of yours and I feel sorry for you.

You actually believe that the Northerners have the sole power to disallow Southerners from going their own way, ko? LWKMD

Oga, your leaders and elite in the South are in bed with their Northern counterparts to maintain the status quo. Their success in this matter depends on people like you remaining bigoted and blind to your leaders activities. You appear to be indeed a bigger fool than I initially thought. pele o.

ndu_chucks:

Oga, why neutralize your sensibilities with this level of bigotry? You do yourselve a great disservice with this act of yours and I feel sorry for you.

You actually believe that the Northerners have the sole power to disallow Southerners from going their own way, ko? LWKMD

Oga, your leaders and elite in the South are in bed with their Northern counterparts to maintain the status quo. Their success in this matter depends on people like you remaining bigoted and blind to your leaders activities. You appear to be indeed a bigger fool than I initially thought. pele o.

I would have loved to reply you, but, starting a sentence with " Oga" I think it doesn't worth it going back and forth with a Carpenter, who calls "Oga", as if I'm here to give him a job. You can go to HELL!

TRUTHTELA:

I would have loved to reply you, but, starting a sentence with " Oga" I think it doesn't worth it going back and forth with a Carpenter, who calls "Oga", as if I'm here to give him a job. You can go to HELL!

Ngwanu Mazi, its OK to run away when confronted with superior points. Next time, pick an argument with people on your level. Okwute Egyptians piafuka gi isi, ewu can beer. mumu