Sagamite:

No!

I judge my greats by:

- The ability in their position.

- What level they played at at both club and country.

- How essential they were to the teams at that level.

Lol. Going by way you judge greats, then Yakubu should be included in your list.

You are really chatting opata!

Mboma would be in the top 3 of camerounians? With Etoo, Milla, Abega, N'kono, Song, Oman Biyik, Geremi, even Olembe-Olembe? You must be having a laugh.

Tell me what Mboma did in the Mickey mouse clubs he played for? And where he replicated it? (We are assuming Portuguese league was Mickey Mouse then)

Mboma was more influential than Solomon Olembe and Geremi na.
Anyway, the only way we would know is by asking a Cameroonian. I believe they have the final say.

Sagamite:

https://www.nairaland.com/1176158/sagamites-top-30-greatest-african/11#14035645

If you are not at the world stage while your peers are going to the world stage and being outstanding, the you would struggle to claim greatness over them most times.

In the 70s not many African players at all made it to Europe; the world cup every four years allowed only one African team.

Honestly, seeing these guys play in the conditions that prevailed when they did and comparing them to the modern era only increases my respect for them.

There are loads of others: in Nigeria alone you still have Usiyen, Odiye etc etc etc

J12:

Lol. Going by way you judge greats, then Yakubu should be included in your list.

He would be in the top 100. No doubt!

https://www.nairaland.com/1145069/nigeria-50-greatest-footballers-all/7#13712999

Enigma:

In the 70s not many African players at all made it to Europe; the world cup every four years allowed only one African team.

Honestly, seeing these guys play in the conditions that prevailed when they did and comparing them to the modern era only increases my respect for them.

There are loads of others: in Nigeria alone you still have Usiyen, Odiye etc etc etc

I agree and I am lenient because of that. That is why you have the likes of Chitalu, Belloumi and Odegbami on the list.

But I really will only be lenient with the best of the best with exceptional ability.

An aside, I see a poster called Ngodigha reading; there used to be a goalkeeper (?) in Naija called David Ngodigha if my memory serves me right.

Well done Sagamite for this comprehensive.
Is it possible to fit in this players into that list.
Muda Lawal: Played in nations cup 76, 78, 80, 82 and 84. Won it in 1980, second in 84 and bronze in 76.
Theofil Abega. Captained Cameroun in world cup 82, won nations cup in 84 and played in 86 finals.
Henry Nwosu won nations cup in 80, played in 82, 84 silver and 88 silver.
What do you think Sagamite?.

Enigma: An aside, I see a poster called Ngodigha reading; there used to be a goalkeeper (?) in Naija called David Ngodigha if my memory serves me right.

Sorry, but we are not same nor related.

Sagamite:

Amsorry?

How was Henry sold past his prime?

You want to BS me?

You think you can BS Sagamite?

As in: SAGAMITE from Sagamuewa?!

Ogbeni yii... Henry was sold at the age of 30yrs... Dude only had 2yrs left on his clock... How on earth would someone have paid 50mill for a 30yr old

Besides well all know that price was overinflated thanks to chelski.

Jarus:
Essien played in same French league and was voted best player 2004. Okocha played in same league with PSG.

Sorry I miss your point?

BTW do you know that ronaldinho was in the same team as okocha as well? I wouldn't have expected him to win best player at the time

Just as essien wouldn't win best player of the league if he played in the same leagu as messi or ronaldinho

Andre Uweh: Well done Sagamite for this comprehensive.
Is it possible to fit in this players into that list.
Muda Lawal: Played in nations cup 76, 78, 80, 82 and 84. Won it in 1980, second in 84 and bronze in 76.
Theofil Abega. Captained Cameroun in world cup 82, won nations cup in 84 and played in 86 finals.
Henry Nwosu won nations cup in 80, played in 82, 84 silver and 88 silver.
What do you think Sagamite?.

Abega was my no 31, the player I had to drop last.

I think the others will be in top 100.

kramer:

Ogbeni yii... Henry was sold at the age of 30yrs... Dude only had 2yrs left on his clock... How on earth would someone have paid 50mill for a 30yr old

Besides well all know that price was overinflated thanks to chelski.

But the guy was banging in goals.

Weah became WPoY at 34.

So we don't judge on age, we judge on current form.

thank u !

semid4lyfe: No space for Frederick Kanoute, Mustapha Hadji, Joel Tiehi, Odartey Lamptey, Lucas Radebe, Edward Ansah?

And you have Joseph Antoine Belle and Thomas N'kono in the Top 10 whilst players like *Rabha Madjer*, Rashidi Yekini, Kanu Nwankwo, Tony Yeboah etc are ranked between 20 - 30?

Ridiculous!

If I were an editor of a sports paper and I ask you to come up with a ranking of African Greatest Footballers and you give me this, I'll toss it into the bin straight.

J12:
Goals shouldn't be only yardstick by the way, how many goals has Drogba scored for his country?

Drogba is CIV's all-time highest goal scorer with whopping 59 goals!

Sagamite:

But the guy was banging in goals.

Weah became WPoY at 34.

So we don't judge on age,e on current form.

Yes you're right there but that doesn't apply in all cases. Weah, shearer and ian wright are examples of players who got better with age.

However when you buy a player, you don't just base it on current form, you look at their longevity too

This reflected on Henry's price, unlike the others his prime advantage was his speed (which goes down the older you get) though he was still a clinical finisher as ever

kramer:

Sorry I miss your point?

BTW do you know that ronaldinho was in the same team as okocha as well? I wouldn't have expected him to win best player at the time

I thought some Nigerians say Okocha thought Ronni football in PSG?

It may also interest you to know that Ronnie was never best player in Ligue 1. He was budding in PSG and exploded in Barca.

Clips of the greatest:

Samuel Etoo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA5NfsryOW8


George Weah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy8jENGKW9c


Didier Drogba


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu2yMbVp7Cc

Jarus:

Drogba is CIV's all-time highest goal scorer with whopping 59 goals!

Did she not check this fact before asking that question?

kramer:


Yes you're right there but that doesn't apply in all cases. Weah, shearer and ian wright are examples of players who got better with age.

However when you buy a player, you don't just base it on current form, you look at their longevity too

This reflected on Henry's price, unlike the others his prime advantage was his speed (which goes down the older you get) though he was still a clinical finisher as ever

How would Barcolona or Arsenal know if Henry would not be another Weah?

He was at his peak when he was sold, that means he would be sold for shytloads.

Ibrahimovic was 28 when he was sold for £50m, 30 when he was sold for £20m and currently one of the highest paid footballers at 31.

Look, the moral of the story is that it is almost useless to be saying this player cost more so he is better. You just dig a hole for yourself. Football is not about silly stats, it is about who can play it well at the highest level.

Jarus:

Drogba is CIV's all-time highest goal scorer with whopping 59 goals!

Thanks for the information and clarification.

Why is Mutiu Adepoju not on the list? Have you all suddenly forgotten the headmaster?

Sagamite:

Look, the moral of the story is that it is almost useless to be saying this player cost more so he is better. You just dig a hole for yourself. Football is not about silly stats, it is about who can play it well at the highest level.

OK I agree, and that's why Okocha is better than Essien. Shikena. End of discussion.

If my team was a goal down I would put in Okocha over Essien any day any time. Not to say Essien isn't world class. The man can also play

You can ask Barcelona about Essien's critical period, match-winning performance.

Sagamite:



Where is Obafemi Martins and Joseph Dosu?

Sagamite:



Where is Obafemi Martins and Joseph Dosu?

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Where is Obafemi Martins and Joseph Dosu? [/quoteWHERE IS MY NAME ON THE LIST BECOS I DEY POPULAR NO BE SMALL...I DEY SCORE LIKE SAY NA ME BY AIR AND DEM NO FIT HOLD ME BECOS I BE LIKE OIL.......I BEG NO KILL WITH LAFF OOOO.

Jarus: You can ask Barcelona about Essien's critical period, match-winning performance.

The only time essien perfomed exceptionally against Barca was in 2009 semis and we didn't make it to the final. Our top perfomers against barca has always been Lampard, Drogba and Carvalho.

That said, I personally Essien is better than Oliseh. They have almost the same physical attributes - strong, filled with lots of stamina and energy, great tacklers, long range shooters, good midfielders. . . but Essien can play in AM and CM, while Oliseh is strictly a DM.

1)How can anybody compare the overhyped essien to j.j okocha or even sunday oliseh?
2)how can anybody compare patrick mboma(good but not spectacular) to rashidi yekini.
Blasphemy all over this thread.

kramer:

OK I agree, and that's why Okocha is better than Essien. Shikena. End of discussion.

If my team was a goal down I would put in Okocha over Essien any day any time. Not to say Essien isn't world class. The man can also play

Essien played at the highest level and as a key man up to world standard.

Okocha played at above average level as a key man up to very high standards.

If Essien was in you team, you would not be a goal down in the first place and your players will not be tired as Essien is like 3 men on the pitch (one in defence, one in midfield and one in attack) doing all the work.

solomon111: 1)How can anybody compare the overhyped essien to j.j okocha or even sunday oliseh?
2)how can anybody compare patrick mboma(good but not spectacular) to rashidi yekini.
Blasphemy all over this thread.

Oliseh ko, Oliha ni.

I won't quote everything but you are disrespecting MBOMA ,thanks j12 for your support, Mboma is indeed a GOD in Cameroon.
2 Afcon(each time top scorer)
1olympic
And I don't see how yekini's stats are different abi for 4goals you crucify the guy?both played in yeye league. Find a place for MBOMA

solomon111:
2)how can anybody compare patrick mboma(good but not spectacular) to rashidi yekini.
Blasphemy all over this thread.

you are biased and sensitive there is no time for patriotism here, what Yekini did and MBOMA didn't smh

CAMEROONPRIDE: I won't quote everything but you are disrespecting MBOMA ,thanks j12 for your support, Mboma is indeed a GOD in Cameroon.
2 Afcon(each time top scorer)
1olympic
And I don't see how yekini's stats are different abi for 4goals you crucify the guy?both played in yeye league. Find a place for MBOMA

Thank God you came back to clarify.
Sagamite you don see am?

CAMEROONPRIDE: you are biased and sensitive there is no time for patriotism here, what Yekini did and MBOMA didn't smh

I am not being patriotic.
Yekini shittts on mboma anyday.

solomon111: I am not being patriotic.
Yekini shittts on mboma anyday.

what yekini did/achieved and MBOMA didn't?

CAMEROONPRIDE: I won't quote everything but you are disrespecting MBOMA ,thanks j12 for your support, Mboma is indeed a GOD in Cameroon.
2 Afcon(each time top scorer)
1olympic
And I don't see how yekini's stats are different abi for 4goals you crucify the guy?both played in yeye league. Find a place for MBOMA

he may be a God in cameroon,dosen't mean he is better.
Benni mccarthy is also a God in south-africa.

solomon111: 1)How can anybody compare the overhyped essien to j.j okocha or even sunday oliseh?
2)how can anybody compare patrick mboma(good but not spectacular) to rashidi yekini.
Blasphemy all over this thread.

Bring on your facts on JJ being better than Essien and let's see them - even though all the points have been punctured earlier in this thread.

For 2, I agree Yekinni was better than Mboma, but don't underrate Mboma. Just slight difference.

That said, I don't fully agree with Saga's list. I agree with Top 3. I agree with 90% of the list, but not ranking. He underrated Kanu and JJ. Kanu should be in Top 10, and JJ not more than 13. It is not for nothing to be unanimously agreed as most skilful African player ever. All lists of Top 10 African footballers ever I have come across, even from Naija-rival media like RSA, have either Kanu or JJ in Top 10.

Mboma clubs: Chateauroux, PSG, Metz, Gamba osaka, Cagliari, Parma, sunderland.

Mboma awards: AFOY 2000
BBC AFOY 2000
AFCON Top scorer 2002
J-league Top scorer 1997

Club stats 263 games 109 goals
Country stats 57 games 33goals

Trophy : Afcon 2000&2002
Olympic 2000
^leads the team each time.
Ps score a memorable overhead agaisnt France in
1998. Who here doesn't know that goal