kandiikane:
There are but it doesn't usually involving breaking your back for your child. Not really.

Afam4eva:
Taking care of the kids with? Sand? Who provided what she's taking care of the child with? The house that she's taking care of the child in was provided why who?

kandiikane:

We're in 2013 and you still have this mindset? Women are working AND taking care of their children.

Pharoh: What path do you want me to go that i have not gone already?, and what role did the father played that you say i skipped?.

I have been rewarding both of my parents for the past seven years and nothing in this world can change that.

Afam4eva:
Pls can you apologize to all the fathers in the world for this comment. So, a man that runs around to make sure he feeds his family is not breaking his back? I have sent this thread to fathers all over the world so that they will see what their kids are saying about them.

kandiikane: Can you tell me why mothers won't be appreciated more when fathers are out in beer parlours everynight drinking pammy and eyeing young things, whilst the mother is at home taking care of the kids.

Afam4eva:
We're in 2013 and you still have this mindset? Men are taking care of their children and working.

Good Girl:
To make matters worse, he'll CONSTANTLY be complaining about his wife's weight forgetting that she's the one who carried and bore HIS children (never mind that he looks like a balloon himself). Ungrateful pigs!

slimyem: There is no mindset here nor is it a new generation thing.
Even YOU would naturally warm up to the needs of your mother FIRST before your dad from whatever angle you wanno see it from.
Mothers are more defined in the life of a child than fathers.
It is just the way it is.

Funny how its the men crying unfairness here that are the champions of defining feminine roles in the home and why/how men should not be involved.

kandiikane:

*gasps* oh really?! I guess the whole women being single parents is a conspiracy to bring men down.

safarigirl: go and ask the millions of people in jail due to the absence of a 'father figure' in their lives.

Fathers are just as important as mothers, in fact, I have been influenced more by my father than anyone in the world.

Sure there are men who don't accept their fatherly responsibilities, then again, sp3rm donors do not count as 'fathers' people need to stop confusing those terms. A father is MORE than a man who knocks up your mama, even a class teacher could me more of a father than your mother's husband.

That being sd, irrespective of a man's mistakes, his child should not be alienated from him simply because he did her mama wrong, people make mistakes, it's up to their loved ones to forgive once they accept this and Beyonce and her mama aren't acting right.

kandiikane:

Lol, someone's not happy.

Afam4eva:
You're shifting the goal post...We're talking of a complete family with Father and Mother and not single parents.

ogugua88: [size=13pt]Kai, thread derailed lmao.

Afam, Kandii, myself, Good girl, and Pharoh, can we try to get back on topic? I see fathers vs mothers talk don make us kolo small.

Thank you in advance... [/size]

ogugua88:

[size=13pt]You're saying Beyoncé should respect his role as a father, when in fact he disrespected it. Rather than chastise Beyoncé, ask if he made amends with the wife he cheated on and the daughters he betrayed. Imagine Blue Ivy being one year younger than her uncle or aunty. Beyoncé is raising a one-year old, meanwhile her 60-something year old father is paying child support for his toddler. Free Beyoncé abeg.

OT: I'm tempted to ask if it's only Tina living in that house? I hope she has guests frequenting, otherwise she'll be using the theater room alone lol.[/size]

kandiikane:

No, I am not. Even if it's a complete family, what will be the first thing out of the father's mouth to the mum?

Dad: 'Where is my food?! Why is there no food on the table.You are very lazy! You've gone fat! Your punny don slack from birthing all your children. You've let yourself go. I come from work and there are bowls in the sink. Useless woman '

Mum:'Erm, I was at work too. We came in together.'

Pharoh: Lol but answer this question first below

So what if it is the reverse we have and it was her mother that cheated on the father?. Will you support beyonce not to do anything for the mother or you will start asking people to find the reason why she cheated?. Will you also still support her to do something for her mom because she is the weaker sex and got nothing out of the marriage?.

pekelepekele: Guys please what is it with oyinbo and bathrooms? . 6 bedrooms and 16 bathroom na wa oo

Pharoh:

To be honest with you, this is not about who you warm up to first or who you will do more for from my point of view. This is more of appreciating both parents as much as you can because both of them contributed to your life. Trying to find out who did this or was more defined in my life is irrelevant.

Without emotions i have sat down to look through my life and see the contribution that each of them make. The dimension a father contributes into a kids life is different from the dimension a mother will contribute and they can overlap as well. The message is for everyone to appreciate both parents according to their needs and desist from using excuses like cheating to throw away the contribution a father makes to his or her life.

You cannot judge people relationship
and their level of tolerance of
acceptance like this.
You don't know how highly she rated
her father and how highly dissapointed
she was by his action.
I don't know if/how long it'd take to
forgive my father if i was in her shoes so
i wouldn't judge her.

Ogugua88: Wrong is wrong, man or woman. I don't consider myself weak. If I, as a woman, make a mistake, then I should deal with the repercussions, even if that includes alienation from my children. So, if Beyoncé did the same for her mom who cheated, then you wouldn't hear me complain.

Now discuss the mansion lol.

Ogugua88: Tina no be spring chicken. She can be walking from the kitchen and suffering incontinence and need to visit the restroom three times before entering her bedroom which is down the hall. It's better to keep going through the three bathrooms by the bedroom rather than making u-turns.

kandiikane: Because one is.

Fisherman.com:
How do dis people make dat type moni?

Afam4eva:
I don't know the kind of home you grew up in(no offense) but i don't know how many fathers will say such things to their wives. Why are you generalizing? And again you're going off tangent. We're asking if the Father plays no role in the family. is it the mother that does everything?

Oahray: Yeah, right! Sounds like: water is better than air, cos water is satisfying and quenches our thirst when we are about to die of thirst.

Silly argument.

kandiikane:

A mother is both water and air.

kandiikane:

A mother is both water and air.

Pharoh:

No it is not and that analogy just pointed to the beauty of not comparing them to see which is more important.