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Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by Nobody: 11:30pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
It will be interesting to see how the APC will spin Babangida's membership of their party, as a good thing to the 'true' progressives. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by Gbawe: 11:30pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
all4naija: He is not need. It is like of you as a citizen that keeps this country from moving forward. You keep believing we can not do anything without these thieves. We are told the youths are the future of any nation. Jeez! I don't have time for people like you long on sentiment yet extremely poor on comprehension. If you think I am praising the likes of IBB or advocating they endure, then you must simply not get it that I have always implied that the IBB's linger because people like you and all the impotent loud-mouths here are a disgrace to what youths are worldwide. Let me tell you this for free. If 10% of Nigerian youths were like me, Babangida will be spending his time walking his grand kids to school in Hampstead, London. I recognise what Babangida is and more importantly, I recognise what empty barrel "youths" like you are about i.e empty noise-making yet you will p1ss yourself if face to face with IBB. Your impotence is the reason many geriatrics are still dominant in Nigerian politics. One would at least expect you to honestly accept that instead of continuously regurgitating the vacuously braggart notion you and other Nigerian youths even have the skills or determination to control your destiny Quit this mythical "youth will take over" BS you Nigerians talk about but never display the balls to actualise. The sad truth is that Nigerian youths remain childish, overly deferential to elders, lackadaisically unquestioning of authority and unaware of their own powerful/pivotal position in society. Only a fool will join such a 'handicapped' model of youth to fight a serious battle. 1 Like |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by takedat(m): 11:31pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
gratiaeo:Its wrong of you to say Nigerians do not have an alternative to GEJ, in a country where we have men of flawless vision, proven leadership skills and immaculate characters. If our only option is to vote for a corrupt man of dishonourable character and putrified integrity, not only are we doomed as a nation, it also shows the folly of 170million men and women! 1 Like |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by amtheone(m): 11:33pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
Tigerhead: @gbawe Tigerhead, there is no point dragging this matter further. APC may not bring all the needed solutions that Nigerians are asking for. But we need a change in politics. You as an individual may not believe in any other elements but there must be a change in policy making. I am aware that it is almost impossible for individuals who have benefited immensely from this PDP system of power to accept the fact that Nigerians are not satisfied with their system of administration. You made mention of PDP sitting up. Well, that statement sounds more like a pile in the wind. You need to understand the structure of PDP and what it stands for: self glorification. Again, I may not completely blame PDP, I blame Nigerians for allowing PDP remained this long in power even when there is no track record of good performance. You have to beyond a particular political party because the main essence of any party is to deliver on its promises and also adhere strictly to the elements that hold its existence which is service delivery. To this end, PDP should honourably follow the exit way or emergency exit. U can only govern/lead when u are given the mandate. I rest my case |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by skyfall: 11:35pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
Validated: Is IBB a Progressive? I think some of us are confused. No doubt YOU are confused. Go back and read all the comments and realize that APC was not mentioned in his interview. Also read his previous statement on the merger and understand what he said about the opposition coming together. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by thelastPope(m): 11:35pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
gowaga68: What nonsense are you typing? On one hand you say PDP is people deceiving people and on the other hadn, you are celebrating "their oga" coming to oin your party. Is PDP the name or the people in it? You people have no shame at all! You are all making fools of yourselves in public. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by Nobody: 11:35pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
Gbawe:Did I insult you in any way? I don't think so. You are the one with poor comprehension here. Indeed, I just explained further your statement about the man called IBB. I can't see where the long sentiment is coming from you are squarely alluding to here. My take on the matter from your comment is to point you to the reason why he is not useful, although, you think there is something still useful about him. Please, stop taking the matter out of context . I am not saying youths should take over. I am saying youths should take their rightful places and fight for their rights. Another thing, these corrupt leaders aren't needed for that to be successful. You see. You misunderstood me there. Thank you. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by TeaParty: 11:35pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Yesterday they were ACN attackdogs, today they are APC attack dogs, tomorrow they might become PHENSIC Attack Dogs. Steer clear of regional warriors who change names at will for their selfish aim. I cant believe IBB, the man who annulled June 12 is now a hero to these AC/ACN/APC/PHENSIC-TO-BECOME attack dogs. You forgot to include "AD"? |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by luluosas(m): 11:35pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
Billyonaire: I am surprise that IBB is very popular amongst the underdogs, This is a Military Dictator who annulled June 12, killed MKO Abiola, and set this country backwards. This IBB should have been shamefully sacked from PDP and publicly executed if not for respect we have on past Presidents. In his very careful and maradonic move, he uttered an inconclusive statement and the APC (should I say Chloroquin) parasites are scrambling for wants of words. Is IBB relevant in today's Nigeria ? The answer is No, IBB is the reason we are in darkness. It takes a GEJ to refocus our steps.You want to tell me you don't know how IBB is regarded as a father within the PDP circle? Go and ask President Goodluck Jonathan |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by boyt1: 11:37pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
APC; THE RECIRCULATGION Process OF FAILED DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM. Emergence of the same people from PDP-TO APC and from APC TO PDP with 'godfatherism' in politics i do not see any sollution now. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by gratiaeo(m): 11:39pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
gramci:Lolz..... Teaching an old dog a new style |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by PallyG(m): 11:39pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
APC ENDORSED BY IBB....i dey laugh !!! |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by gratiaeo(m): 11:44pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
take dat: Its wrong of you to say Nigerians do not have an alternative to GEJ, in a country where we have men of flawless vision, proven leadership skills and immaculate character. If our only option is to vote for a corrupt man of dishonourable character and putrified integrity, not only are we doomed as a nation, it also shows the folly of 170million men and women!Did you read my post at all? Or am i not entitle to my opinion anymore.......? You should have just name your alternative |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by thelastPope(m): 11:45pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
amtheone: You mean like the way Tinubu benefitted when he visited Aso Villa 3 days to the last presidential election to collect egunje or the way Tinubu and Fashola were scrambling to buy the Eko and Ikeja power DISCOs? Or the way Tinubu through his brother proxy has been eating fuel subsidy money? It is amazing how you think it is this innocent poster that is benefitting from PDP! |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by takedat(m): 11:47pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
gratiaeo:I welcome the freedom of opinion, so yours count and my reply to you counts as well! |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by luluosas(m): 11:48pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
Neo-XVI:You may have raised a salient point but, looking at the way Nigerians still accept PDP in spite of their way they've been robbing Nigeria leaves much to be desired. Therefore, if you have never spoken against PDP in the past, don't condemn APC from the beginning. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by jadakiss213(m): 11:49pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
the long and short of all these in my opinion is if we have to vote just to oust PDP,and vote in d new 'mega' party just because its APC,then we are just moving in a circus.What does APC have to offer apart from just being 'APC'? 2 Likes |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by Gbawe: 11:51pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
all4naija: Did I insult you in any way? I don't think so. You are the one with poor comprehension here. Indeed, I just explained further your statement about the man called IBB. I can't see where the long sentiment is coming from you are squarely alluding to here. Please stop playing victim. If you understand what I have said it would be clear what you write below is indeed an insult. I am the last person to respect the IBB's of the world or desire their continuous relevance in Nigerian politics. That does not mean I fail to recognise why they are still relevant and why the pragmatic person must work with reality. I just accept I don't have an ally in you and other Nigerian youths because you are all mainly shallow, unprincipled when it really matters, unwilling to stay the course and vacuously noisy. You will be the last to fight for what you believe in and will be the easiest to compromise. Why should I then take you seriously when you talk loudly about "youths taking over" when your real character and the situation on the ground show that this is only hollow noise? Why not, if I want Nigeria to move forward, do it as a voter empowering the lesser devil or via getting involved like the Fayemis, Rochas, Ribadus et al? The last thing I will do , as a realistic person, is engage in the deluded fantasy that the Nigerian youths will depose the IBB's of the world. I would rather put my efforts towards supporting the Ribadus and FAsholas to do it or getting involved myself. Those are the only options I deem viable. It is like of you as a citizen that keeps this country from moving forward. You keep believing we can not do anything without these thieves |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by emiye(m): 11:54pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
byrron: I can see how nihilistic u r by nature? Take it easy man, i love sensible debates, and did not call you a clown, even though you sound as one. How many years from now, do you believe an independent presidential candidate will garner enough votes from Nigerian electorates to win an election? 50years? , 100years? You must learn to separate your fantasies and idealism from the real world Else, you might be seen as a clown. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by takedat(m): 11:57pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
thelastPope:So you do agree that GEJ is profligate and corrupt, spreading around public funds to pacify, would be election spoilers! Can't wait to see the drain on public funds, ahead of the 2015 election! The bankruptcy of the nation's wealth lies ahead! |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by skyfall: 11:59pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
@Gbawe While i understand your logic, i think that trying to sell IBB is taking it a bit too far. If he somehow works against the PDP behind the scenes, maybe. But IBB's open declaration for APC will wash away the credibility it's got so far and the easy acceptance it has gained from Nigerians. I can't imagine an IBB standing with and campaigning for a future presidential candidate. That will be easy cannon for PDP against the APC. As we said earlier, if IBB leaves the PDP and stands on his own or retires from politics, it'a huge minus for PDP and a plus for APC. But if he leaves and joins the APC, it WILL definitely backfire. APC does not need IBB. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by amtheone(m): 12:00am On Mar 03, 2013 |
thelastPope: Lastpope, maybe u need to read my post one more time. I am not against all party. I am against a dump and deaf party. It does me no good to continually support PDP who has failed(not al will accept this) to deliver. Never forget this: Its not about a whole in the sum, but a sum in the whole. Carefully read my post once more. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by abuda(m): 12:00am On Mar 03, 2013 |
[b][/b]come 2015, this country will celebrate the emergence of a new leader not a ruler. Some think its not possible, but nothing is impossible. Even if it means Nigeria copying the ivorian style of the defeat suffered by Gbagbo from Ouattaara, we'll still make that move. Enough is actually Enough! |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by jadakiss213(m): 12:05am On Mar 03, 2013 |
omenka:I thought APC was about change from the 'evil' past.If APC is happy it got an endorsement from a 'criminal' like IBB,then this alignment of strange bedfellows with the SOLE aim of ousting the PDP is nothing but a FRAUD. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by Gbawe: 12:09am On Mar 03, 2013 |
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Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by Gbawe: 12:11am On Mar 03, 2013 |
byrron: I honestly do appreciate ur matured and candid response and ur views as well. That is why I mentioned the 40 years proviso. An independent candidate can simply not win at the centre because of the funding and grassroot backing required. The problem with Nigerian politics is that majority of movers and shakers will only assist you for what they wish to gain in return for help offered. We are not the stage where other Countries have reached, and take for granted, whereby nationalism and genuine altruism can see a very good candidate gaining immense support and backing. Were Utomi and Gani Fawehinmi not effectively independent candidates? How well did they fare? My brother, we have no choice ,as adults, but to adopt pragmatism in our outlook. I used to be idealistic but I realised that I had no right dreaming of utopia without accepting that political dreams only come true if people understand the need to embrace what is practical and achievable in a graduated process. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by thelastPope(m): 12:11am On Mar 03, 2013 |
jadakiss213: the long and short of all these in my opinion is if we have to vote just to oust PDP,and vote in d new 'mega' party just because its APC,then we are just moving in a circus.What does APC have to offer apart from just being 'APC'? This is the million dollar question! What does APC have to offer? Is it just a new name but same old criminals. I said it when they announced the merger that I fully support a merger as it can only strengthen out democracy but I am quite disappointed at the way they are going. The problem is that they have built their political capital and image mainly around anti-corruption. Now the problem with that is, you have to by your actions match that picture but they are messing things up big time. First, they make Ikimi their spokes person. Then its goof after goof and now, they are celebrating IBB. The really sad part is that IBB is even a spent force. Also, the only way IBB will commit his political capital is if he is going to run for presidency. GEJ defeated the combo of IBB, Atiku, Saraki and Gusau in the 2010 PDP primaries. IBB is nothing in PDP! |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by Nobody: 12:12am On Mar 03, 2013 |
Gbawe:Hahaha... Seriously, if you think that is an insult it means you take offence in trivialities. I doubt you are really on about the idea of moving the country forward. My little understanding of the situation in Nigeria and the consequences it poses to average Nigerians on the street is painstakingly telling of a story of paupers. People who were reduced to nothing by the absent mindedness of individuals like IBB. It is sickening minding to hear about somebody like that who have systematically destroyed the progress of that country with the host of others of his looting compatriots trying to commend the leading actions of opposition party. Oh! Please, You don't know anything about me. Fight is not all about taking to the streets in angry mind. Indeed, I am fighting everyday in disseminating information around the world about this country in the best I can. People need to be educated to fight for their rights. The fight is about rights. You are still not in line with what this fighting is for and how to go about it. Your analogy of empowering lesser devil and the one you are trying to exonerate in the light of comparison speaks of your traitor-like stance. It won't help you. There is every reason to say that you are not in any way going to help in building this nation if you keep thinking the past looter, as in the case of IBB, is still there to liberate the country from failures he contributed evil to is your pipe-dream and not good for the future of the country. I don't really find that your item B statement encouraging out all. I can clearly say,you are not a citizen with ambitions about the progress of this country. |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by gratiaeo(m): 12:13am On Mar 03, 2013 |
IBB joining APC (Association Of Polluted Criminals); a PDP strategy to destroy APC (Association Of Polluted Criminals) from onset |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by Gbawe: 12:18am On Mar 03, 2013 |
skyfall: @Gbawe I am not trying to "sell" the man . I despise him immensely. My point is that politicians will be politicians. If he can contribute something deemed positive then it won't be rejected by the APC because everything is about the sum total. Ask some of those who followed the 2011 elections on this forum and you will realise there was a stage Ribadu even openly agitated over why IBB,Ciroma, Atiku et al could not endorse him or Buhari if they kept insisting GEJ was a poor candidate likely to take the country backwards. A good politician will look at what others have to say and can contribute. Tinubu, for example, will not be where he is today but for this concept. We can all be as emotional as we want but politicians remain about personal interest and doing what is best to secure that. Obviously they will be careful not to court infamy openly but, as I said earlier, the APC is simply not ready to depose the PDP if it cannot pragmatically use every tool to get what it wants. http://thenationonlineng.net/new/news/apc-wont-discriminate-says-tinubu-after-talks-with-buhari/ APC won’t discriminate, says Tinubu after talks with Buhari |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by econome(m): 12:23am On Mar 03, 2013 |
Nollywood vs Nigerian Politics, who produce better drama? |
Re: Babangida’s Endorsement Of APC Rattles PDP by thelastPope(m): 12:24am On Mar 03, 2013 |
take dat: So you do agree that GEJ is profligate and corrupt, spreading around public funds to pacify, would be election spoilers! Can't wait to see the drain on public funds, ahead of the 2015 election! The bankruptcy of the nation's wealth lies ahead! How much did Obama spend in the last election again? Please remind me? Elections are not cheap my friend! What do you think Oshiomole did with the 900 million he got from Dangote? You think he used it to develop ideologies? Your argument is diversionary. Nobody ever said GEJ is a saint! It is ACN/CPC that posture as saints when they are not. Nigeria will not go broke because of an election. That is just tabloid talk. I do want APC to succeed but make no mistake that the search light will be beamed on them just like any other party out there and unfortunately, there seems to be a greater expection of purity from them. That's a huge problem especially after reading a thread like this one. |
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