A Religious man testifies to the goodness of being an atheist and being close to atheists - Happy reading -

The man: Living with an Atheist had been a new experience for me. But it is a refreshing one. Since I recently left my marriage to a devoutly religious woman a whole new world has suddenly appeared. The openness that I now share with this new woman has enlightened me to a human quality that was missing from my long and shallow marriage. That openness is called honesty. We both know and accept the full range of who we really are, and communicate in truth rather than in hypocrisy. At first the exposure to such a raw person was frightening, and I didn't think it would last. But I awake one morning before she did and looked at her unkempt and natural body, it was then that I realized I was living with a genuine human being. That is the moment when I fell fully in love with her.

My Atheist woman was the most selfish person that I ever met. She was motivated out of pure desire and gave of herself only for herself. She reminded me of a pet cat that I used to own, but my woman was infinitely more interesting. When she was reading a book that book became her whole world, I didn't exist until she was finished and ready to eat or make love. It was then that she became even more perfect. Not only was she a great lover but she was also a fantastic cook. I never knew that there were so many ways to prepare a delicious meal, and she knew them all. Her personality and conversation were so stimulating that there was no place else in the world that I would rather be but at her side.

When I first met her she confessed to me that she did not believe in god and that she was an Atheist. I was shocked to hear such a disclosure and was ready to depart, when she said that she needed me desperately. I asked her why, and she replied that she felt that I was a beautiful person and wanted to have a love affair with me. Her honesty turned me on, and lifted my self-esteem. We began to see each other on a steady basis, and before I moved into her place she told me that if I ever became unappealing to her she would ask me to leave. I accepted those conditions. Many months latter I asked her to marry me; she said she would, if marriage is that important to me. We were married in civil ceremony by an Atheist judge, and were wished good luck. This is the story of how I married an Atheist

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i am clearly not surprised.
experience has shown me that most Atheists live the principles of Life while most religious people only pay lip service to them living a hypocritical and hollow life. the principle of "Be yourself" and "let others be" are 2 very important principles that if applied in life will make human interaction such a wonderful thing that it was meant to be in the first place.

benodic:
i am clearly not surprised.
experience has shown me that most Atheists live the principles of Life while most religious people only pay lip service to them living a hypocritical and hollow life. the principle of "Be yourself" and "let others be" are 2 very important principles that if applied in life will make human interaction such a wonderful thing that it was meant to be in the first place.

How many Atheists or religious people do you know?

striktlymi:

How many Atheists or religious people do you know?

does it matter?

ooman:

does it matter?

Yes it does! He claimed that his conclusion can be attributed to "most" Atheists and religious. It is left for him to demonstrate how that comment holds true from his experience. Otherwise he would just be committing a very common fallacy.

striktlymi:

How many Atheists or religious people do you know?

Always looking for fallacies where there are none.

You dont even have to believe his experience, just look at many atheistic countries and compare them with religious ones

striktlymi:

Yes it does! He claimed that his conclusion can be attributed to "most" Atheists and religious. It is left for him to demonstrate how that comment holds true from his experience. Otherwise he would just be committing a very common fallacy.

From his experience? He clearly stated from that it is from his experience. He never said that it was 100% consistent fact

You are empty

striktlymi:

Yes it does! He claimed that his conclusion can be attributed to "most" Atheists and religious. It is left for him to demonstrate how that comment holds true from his experience. Otherwise he would just be committing a very common fallacy.

i think here is an answer

Babadeen: You dont even have to believe his experience, just look at many atheistic countries and compare them with religious ones

Babadeen:

Always looking for fallacies where there are none.

You really can't see the fallacy? Wow!!!

Babadeen:
You dont even have to believe his experience, just look at many atheistic countries and compare them with religious ones

If by "Atheistic countries" you mean contries who practiced state Atheism then let's bring out a classic country who did that. Russia! Go back and check what happened when that was done and come talk to us again!

And really this is irrelevant to the discuss cause he clearly drew from his personal experience.

ooman:

i think here is an answer

Wrong answer!

striktlymi:

You really can't see the fallacy? Wow!!!



If by "Atheistic countries" you mean contries who practiced state Atheism then let's bring out a classic country who did that. Russia! Go back and check what happened when that was done and come talk to us again!

And really this is irrelevant to the discuss cause he clearly drew from his personal experience.

Am not getting something here, Is communism the same thing as atheism?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Russia

dekung:

Am I getting something wrong here? Is communism the same thing as atheism?

I don't mean communism!

striktlymi:

I don't mean communism!

... so what did you mean? ehn?

striktlymi:

I don't mean communism!

so what do you mean. Was there anytime when Russian government advocated for atheism?

benodic:
i am clearly not surprised.
experience has shown me that most Atheists live the principles of Life while most religious people only pay lip service to them living a hypocritical and hollow life. the principle of "Be yourself" and "let others be" are 2 very important principles that if applied in life will make human interaction such a wonderful thing that it was meant to be in the first place.

Who declares what are "the principles of life?"

If you believed in "letting others be," you wouldn't be on this "Religion Section."

How do you know human interaction was meant to be a wonderful thing...if there's no God?

italo:

Who declares what are "the principles of life?"

If you believed in "letting others be," you wouldn't be on this "Religion Section."

How do you know human interaction was meant to be a wonderful thing...if there's no God?

We declare what principles we want to live by - No Gods needed!

Religion is not meant for Christians only - the Mods said atheists should use this section too!

Human interactions are wonderful, that is how we know - No Gods needed

No Gods needed because THERE IS NO GOD!!.

ooman:

... so what did you mean? ehn?

State Atheism!

dekung:
so what do you mean. Was there anytime when Russian government advocated for atheism?

Yes, there was a time!

striktlymi:

State Atheism!

Never heard of anything like that!

striktlymi:

State Atheism!

There is no such thing as state atheism. You mean communism.

After reading a lot of biased accounts of history, I can gather this conclusion.

Youd be hard pressed to find an example outside a communist state

ooman:

Never heard of anything like that!

I guess you haven't heard cause the term is really not common. See below:


State atheism is the official promotion of atheism by a government, sometimes combined with active suppression of religious freedom and practice. In contrast, a secular state purports to be officially neutral in matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligion. State atheism may refer to a government's anti-clericalism, which opposes religious institutional power and influence in all aspects of public and political life, including the involvement of religion in the everyday life of the citizen.
State promotion of atheism as a public norm was first practiced during a brief period in Revolutionary France. Since then, such a policy was repeated only in Revolutionary Mexico and some communist states. The Soviet Union had a long history of state atheism, in which social success largely required individuals to profess atheism and stay away from houses of worship; this attitude was especially militant during the middle Stalinist era from 1929–1939. The Soviet Union attempted to suppress public religious expression over wide areas of its influence, including places such as central Asia.

Ref: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

Babadeen:


There is no such thing as state atheism. You mean communism.

After reading a lot of biased accounts of history, I can gather this conclusion.

Youd be hard pressed to find an example outside a communist state

Concluding without confirming again! Let me know when you are upto speed on the term "State Atheism".

striktlymi:

I guess you haven't heard cause the term is really not common. See below:


State atheism is the official promotion of atheism by a government, sometimes combined with active suppression of religious freedom and practice. In contrast, a secular state purports to be officially neutral in matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligion. State atheism may refer to a government's anti-clericalism, which opposes religious institutional power and influence in all aspects of public and political life, including the involvement of religion in the everyday life of the citizen.
State promotion of atheism as a public norm was first practiced during a brief period in Revolutionary France. Since then, such a policy was repeated only in Revolutionary Mexico and some communist states. The Soviet Union had a long history of state atheism, in which social success largely required individuals to profess atheism and stay away from houses of worship; this attitude was especially militant during the middle Stalinist era from 1929–1939. The Soviet Union attempted to suppress public religious expression over wide areas of its influence, including places such as central Asia.

Ref: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

PEACEFUL STATE ATHEISM MIGHT HELP ERADICATE RELIGION

ooman:

PEACEFUL STATE ATHEISM MIGHT HELP ERADICATE RELIGION

The problem there is that there can never be anything as a peaceful State Atheism! In order to attempt to stop religion, there must be violence.

One cannot adopt Atheism for a state with flowers in hand. Peoples rights have to be trampled upon and before that can be done, power has to be taken through the barrel of a gun in line with the philosophy of Mao Tse Tung.

striktlymi:

I guess you haven't heard cause the term is really not common. See below:


State atheism is the official promotion of atheism by a government, sometimes combined with active suppression of religious freedom and practice. In contrast, a secular state purports to be officially neutral in matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligion. State atheism may refer to a government's anti-clericalism, which opposes religious institutional power and influence in all aspects of public and political life, including the involvement of religion in the everyday life of the citizen.
State promotion of atheism as a public norm was first practiced during a brief period in Revolutionary France. Since then, such a policy was repeated only in Revolutionary Mexico and some communist states. The Soviet Union had a long history of state atheism, in which social success largely required individuals to profess atheism and stay away from houses of worship; this attitude was especially militant during the middle Stalinist era from 1929–1939. The Soviet Union attempted to suppress public religious expression over wide areas of its influence, including places such as central Asia.

Ref: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

Read my comment again and you will find that I have come across the term but it is a meaningless term in history and context.


I have read the biased wikipedia page long a ago.


I repeat, you'd be hard pressed to find a government outside communist regimes that you can find as state atheism

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You didnt read the biased wikipedia article
-The wikipedia article wrongly lists a french revolution which was partly against the church as state atheism which is wrong as it was never an atheist state
-The wikipedia lists Mexico's anti-catholicism/church revolution as state atheism while failing to not that it did nothing to pagan traditions of indenious people and it was only against the church[/size]

striktlymi:

The problem there is that there can never be anything as a peaceful State Atheism! In order to attempt to stop religion, there must be violence.

One cannot adopt Atheism for a state with flowers in hand. Peoples rights have to be trampled upon and before that can be done, power has to be taken through the barrel of a gun in line with the philosophy of Mao Tse Tung.

You and i both know that war and violence are not constant. Atheists are pacifists, maybe the older generation got it wrong but the new generation will get it right.

We will not even need to persuade people anymore, so many are now realizing that religion leads no where and are becoming atheists. before long, everyone will willingly become atheists, even you.!!

Babadeen:



Read my comment again and you will find that I have come across the term but it is a meaningless term in history and context.


I have read the biased wikipedia page long a ago.


I repeat, you'd be hard pressed to find a government outside communist regimes that you can find as state atheism

[size=18pt]
You didnt read the biased wikipedia article
-The wikipedia article wrongly lists a french revolution which was partly against the church as state atheism which is wrong as it was never an atheist state
-The wikipedia lists Mexico's anti-catholicism/church revolution as state atheism while failing to not that it did nothing to pagan traditions of indenious people and it was only against the church[/size]

#Ignored!!!

ooman:

You and i both know that war and violence are not constant. Atheists are pacifists, maybe the older generation got it wrong but the new generation will get it right.

War and violence are not constant but they have a way of resurfacing when injustice takes precedence. To deny people of their rights is unjust and where injustice flourishes, peace will be elusive.

ooman:
We will not even need to persuade people anymore, so many are now realizing that religion leads no where and are becoming atheists. before long, everyone will willingly become atheists, even you.!!

Dream!!!

ooman:

You and i both know that war and violence are not constant. Atheists are pacifists, maybe the older generation got it wrong but the new generation will get it right.

We will not even need to persuade people anymore, so many are now realizing that religion leads no where and are becoming atheists. before long, everyone will willingly become atheists, even you.!!

lol....there is no such thing as state atheism. These christians will distort history to bash atheism. They take the anti-religious ideology of communism to mean state atheism. Just call it communism

striktlymi:

#Ignored!!!

Ignoring the truth

At least, it would be clear to other christians the lies that some apologists like you need to tell to bash atheism

Babadeen:


lol....there is no such thing as state atheism. These christians will distort history to bash atheism. They take the anti-religious ideology of communism to mean state atheism. Just call it communism

You don't even know what communism is.

striktlymi:

You don't even know what communism is.

lol........wow, after shouting that people are making fallacies up and down, you come here with this ad hominem/unfounded assumption about me?


This same tool that doesnt have a clue about the state atheism that he is writing about