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The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Goshen360(m): 4:22pm On Mar 07, 2013
Recently, we've been engaging in the Apostolic teachings of truth that sets men free from yoke of bondage and places Christians in the liberty wherein Christ has made them free. I have come to realize in recent times that, the problem confronting Christianity today is not Atheism\Atheist but Judaism\Judaizers within the body of Christ. Scripture says, "a man's enemies will be the members of his own household".

The Bible as a whole is written to three (3) different groups but mainly two, namely:

1. The Jews
2. The Gentiles or Non-Jews.
3. The Church of God - The body of Christ, comprising of the ONE new man, that is, the Jews and Gentiles.

The Jews received the law of Moses and continued in it in practicing Judaism until the Christ came and fulfilled the law of Moses because the law of Moses and the prophets were all pointing to Christ. After Christ fulfilled the law and ended it on the Cross, the Jews that became Christians were still holding onto the laws of Moses, never wanting to let go and hereby teaching the practices of the law of Moses and mixing with the new teaching of the Apostles in Christianity. They were teaching the Gentile Christians to still obey the laws of Moses in practicing Christianity. This problem has continued from the time of the Apostle till date and many are still wallowing it such not coming to the full life in Christ under the New testament teachings.

Today, just like the Judaizers of the time of the Apostles, many teachers are mixing 'some' practices of the law of Moses with the New Testament teaching claiming we're not under law but Grace while they only pick only things that favours them from the law of Moses and apply it to Christianity. What does the scripture have to say concerning these teachers and practices?

GOD'S WORD ® Translation
1From Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ. I was sent to lead God's chosen people to faith and to the knowledge of the truth that leads to a godly life. 2My message is based on the confidence of eternal life. God, who never lies, promised this eternal life before the world began. 3God has revealed this in every era by spreading his word. I was entrusted with this word by the command of God our Savior.

9He must be devoted to the trustworthy message we teach. Then he can use these accurate teachings to encourage people and correct those who oppose the word. 10There are many believers, especially converts from Judaism, who are rebellious. They speak nonsense and deceive people. 11They must be silenced because they are ruining whole families by teaching what they shouldn't teach. This is the shameful way they make money. 12Even one of their own prophets said, "Cretans are always liars, savage animals, and lazy gluttons." 13That statement is true. For this reason, sharply correct believers so that they continue to have faith that is alive and well. 14They shouldn't pay attention to Jewish myths or commands given by people who are always rejecting the truth. - Titus 1:1-3; 9-14


The above scriptures exposes those mixing Judaism with Christianity and deceiving people all over the world. The mix a little of Moses's teaching with the New Testament Christ's and Apostolic teachings - teachings what shouldn't be taught to Christians. THEY MUST BE SILENCED BY THE KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTH THAT SETS FREE.

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Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by mysticgal(f): 4:28pm On Mar 07, 2013
goshen i agree with your piece,it's the big truth.
Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by PastorKun(m): 4:39pm On Mar 07, 2013
mysticgal: goshen i agree with your piece,it's the big truth.

Aren't you the same person that said somebody would die for not paying tithe(a jewish and not christian requirement) on another thread
Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Goshen360(m): 4:52pm On Mar 07, 2013
@ mysticgal,

Thank you sister. Lemme begin with you - helping you to fulfill Galatians 5:1,

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.


When I study scriptures, I ask question and sought for answers. Now, what is the 'yoke of bondage' in this context. If you read\study the whole context, it was talking about the law (of Moses) in contrast to the Grace that is found in Christ Jesus and these translations puts it better.

New Living Translation (©2007)
So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don't get tied up again in slavery to the law.


Expanded Bible (EXB)
Christ set us free ·so that we could live in freedom [to a place of freedom; or by means of freedom; 4:31]. So stand strong. Do not ·change and go back into the slavery of the law [ submit/be fastened to a yoke of slavery].


The balancing part of the phrase "the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free" is found in Galatia 5:13 saying,

New Living Translation (©2007)
For you have been called to live in freedom, my brothers and sisters. But don't use your freedom to satisfy your sinful nature. Instead, use your freedom to serve one another in love.


Now, I'm going somewhere, not saying you're are living in sinful nature but if you are, submit yourself to the Spirit of God and you shall not fulfill the sinful desire. I'm just balancing the teachings. Now, do you still agree with me to this point?
Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Nobody: 4:58pm On Mar 07, 2013
Interesting thread, I will be back for fellowship.
Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Goshen360(m): 4:58pm On Mar 07, 2013
@ Egbon mi Pastor Kun,

Please, let's take it easy. I've come to understand that MANY Christians say things in error as per what those they look unto had told them. We have responsibilities to lead these Christians out of falsehood step-by-step. Many needs the truth that sets them free and we shall help them out. Let's take it easy! Thank you. We're are going to lead many out of falsehood one step at a time. God bless you bro.

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Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by HerexG(m): 5:00pm On Mar 07, 2013
1) My explaine Matt 5:17, i still belief the law ( Torah) is still significant to our faith.
2) Talking about selecting some parts in the old testament and leaving some e.g
* The tithes collecting is of the old testament
* The first fruit offering is of the old testament.
Now these are all included into modern day Christianity because it involves material benefits.
Why don't they observe the passover which is of the old
or not eating some unclean food materials.
3) whether we like it or not Christianity is being adoltrated,
* Look at Christ name was changed from Yahushua to Jesus, Yahuwah to Jehovah etc
* I wonder where they get the idea of Esther, Christmas and all what not. The bible still remains our basic principle to follow, since all these are not there i wonder why some churches still observe them.
Let us go back to the basics which is learning proper worship from Hebrew who believes in Christ Yahushua and not letting the book of the law ( Torah) departing from us.
Glory to Yahuwah !
Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Goshen360(m): 7:07pm On Mar 07, 2013
HerexG :


1) My explaine Matt 5:17, i still belief the law ( Torah) is still significant to our faith.


King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, TILL all be fulfilled.

Matthew 5:17



Look again at that scripture. It says the law SHALL NOT PASS AWAY UNTIL ALL BE FULFILLED. The law (of Moses) is already fulfilled in Christ that means IT'S PASSED AWAY OR DONE AWAY WITH according to the words of Christ, now that Christ has fulfilled it. What Christ said there is very clear, until all of the laws (of Moses) is fulfilled, it remains; when\if it is fulfilled, it's pass away. The key here is UNTIL at time or period when it is fulfilled or will be fulfilled, then the law of Moses is PASSED AWAY. The condition for which it remains is TILL IT IS FULFILLED. Tell me if Christ NEVER fulfilled the law of Moses already.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Christ is the fulfillment of Moses' Teachings so that everyone who has faith may receive God's approval.

New Living Translation (©2007)
For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God.

Expanded Bible (EXB)
[ For] Christ ·ended [is the end/culmination/fulfillment of] the law so that everyone who believes in him may ·be right with God [have righteousness].

Romans 10:4


The law of Moses was given to specific people - the Jews to practice Judaism, not Christianity. If you have to keep the laws of Moses, we have to keep all or none.


HerexG :


2) Talking about selecting some parts in the old testament and leaving some e.g
* The tithes collecting is of the old testament
* The first fruit offering is of the old testament.
Now these are all included into modern day Christianity because it involves material benefits.
Why don't they observe the passover which is of the old
or not eating some unclean food materials.


None of those things mentioned are taught to Gentiles Christians in the early Church. If you have any New Testament scriptures that taught tithe, firstfruits, observing jewish feast, eating this\that, first born offerings\rituals etc to Gentile Christians or Non-Jews, you might be kind to show it to us. It is the modern day Judaizers who are mixing Judaism and Christianity that are teaching these things and may more to Christians because they making money out of God's people and they must be stopped.


HerexG :


3) whether we like it or not Christianity is being adoltrated,
* Look at Christ name was changed from Yahushua to Jesus, Yahuwah to Jehovah etc
* I wonder where they get the idea of Esther, Christmas and all what not. The bible still remains our basic principle to follow, since all these are not there i wonder why some churches still observe them.


What we have in our English translation is the case of the name Jesus and Jehovah etc. They still remain as it is in the original study language. That's why I sometimes advice to study with study aids such as Hebrews-Greek concordance\dictionaries for unveil the original language\meaning. As per the festivals, that's why when people like you knows the truth, you must talk to others and spread the truth.


HerexG :


Let us go back to the basics which is learning proper worship from Hebrew who believes in Christ Yahushua and not letting the book of the law ( Torah) departing from us.
Glory to Yahuwah !

Christ has come to give the church a new commandments not after the law of Moses but after the law of Spirit of life. The law of Moses was given to teach obedience until Christ should come. We no longer need the Mosaic guidance to follow Christ. Now, we look unto Christ,(not unto the law) who is the author and finisher of OUR FAITH. Following the Torah is mixing Judaism with Christianity and Christ fulfilled the Torah in order to make both Jews and Gentiles ONE new man in CHRIST. Christianity operate by the LAW of the Spirit of LIFE in Christ, NOT by the Torah!
Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Nobody: 7:17pm On Mar 07, 2013
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Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Goshen360(m): 7:21pm On Mar 07, 2013
^^^
Welcome on board brother. Good to see you around. It's being a long time. Sure you're doing great in the kingdom of our dear God.
Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by HerexG(m): 8:56pm On Mar 07, 2013
Thank you my Royal brother in Christ, may our Lord increase your wisdom in the Lord. Through us the unadulterated gospel of Christ shall prevail. Amen
Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by christemmbassey(m): 11:05am On Mar 08, 2013
Goshen360: Recently, we've been engaging in the Apostolic teachings of truth that sets men free from yoke of bondage and places Christians in the liberty wherein Christ has made them free. I have come to realize in recent times that, the problem confronting Christianity today is not Atheism\Atheist but Judaism\Judaizers within the body of Christ. Scripture says, "a man's enemies will be the members of his own household".

The Bible as a whole is written to three (3) different groups but mainly two, namely:

1. The Jews
2. The Gentiles or Non-Jews.
3. The Church of God - The body of Christ, comprising of the ONE new man, that is, the Jews and Gentiles.

The Jews received the law of Moses and continued in it in practicing Judaism until the Christ came and fulfilled the law of Moses because the law of Moses and the prophets were all pointing to Christ. After Christ fulfilled the law and ended it on the Cross, the Jews that became Christians were still holding onto the laws of Moses, never wanting to let go and hereby teaching the practices of the law of Moses and mixing with the new teaching of the Apostles in Christianity. They were teaching the Gentile Christians to still obey the laws of Moses in practicing Christianity. This problem has continued from the time of the Apostle till date and many are still wallowing it such not coming to the full life in Christ under the New testament teachings.

Today, just like the Judaizers of the time of the Apostles, many teachers are mixing 'some' practices of the law of Moses with the New Testament teaching claiming we're not under law but Grace while they only pick only things that favours them from the law of Moses and apply it to Christianity. What does the scripture have to say concerning these teachers and practices?

GOD'S WORD ® Translation
1From Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ. I was sent to lead God's chosen people to faith and to the knowledge of the truth that leads to a godly life. 2My message is based on the confidence of eternal life. God, who never lies, promised this eternal life before the world began. 3God has revealed this in every era by spreading his word. I was entrusted with this word by the command of God our Savior.

9He must be devoted to the trustworthy message we teach. Then he can use these accurate teachings to encourage people and correct those who oppose the word. 10There are many believers, especially converts from Judaism, who are rebellious. They speak nonsense and deceive people. 11They must be silenced because they are ruining whole families by teaching what they shouldn't teach. This is the shameful way they make money. 12Even one of their own prophets said, "Cretans are always liars, savage animals, and lazy gluttons." 13That statement is true. For this reason, sharply correct believers so that they continue to have faith that is alive and well. 14They shouldn't pay attention to Jewish myths or commands given by people who are always rejecting the truth. - Titus 1:1-3; 9-14


The above scriptures exposes those mixing Judaism with Christianity and deceiving people all over the world. The mix a little of Moses's teaching with the New Testament Christ's and Apostolic teachings - teachings what shouldn't be taught to Christians. THEY MUST BE SILENCED BY THE KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTH THAT SETS FREE.
the nigerian variant of judaism is the worst, here one man istheir prophet, the same man is their high priest, scribe priest and levite, and to qualify for that 5fold ministry, you must be a witch/wizard, gone are days when native doctor was dirty, smelling, malnourished, unkempt, misterious and illitrate,poor old man who lived in 'hammer house of horror' kind of shrine. Today, the above has given way to clean, wellfed, educated, well dressed scammer, he speaks queen's or uncle sam's English and now lives in mansions. Although he uses the bible along with his oils and holy waters, his job is the same, he caste SPELLS on and for ppl and collect tithes. The would have beee no cause for alarm if he calls his office shrine or any other name, but the danger is he calls it 'church'. Yes a lot of ppl practice judaism and call it christianity, it would have been a manageable problem, but nigerian variant is combined with spiritism(babalawoism) where they cast spells on the innoscent sheepls as miracles, signs and wonders and effectively disguised as christianity. Some of them worship Mary in form of caved images, corpeses and calls it veneration of the saints and have priesthoodhood built on gay cult etc etc, others like the rascals who called themselves 'pentecostals are into magic, doctrine of demons and casting of spells. The practice of judaism by christians is a big problem, but naija's variant of judaism is satanic.

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Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Nobody: 12:36pm On Mar 08, 2013
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Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Candour(m): 12:54pm On Mar 08, 2013
the message is simple: GRACE AND LAW CANNOT MIX

God bless you plenty Bro Goshen

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Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Nobody: 1:01pm On Mar 08, 2013
Candour: the message is simple: GRACE AND LAW CANNOT MIX

God bless you plenty Bro Goshen


As simple as that !!

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Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by adebayo201: 2:59pm On Mar 08, 2013
frosbel:


As simple as that !!
even more simplier than that! Olorun yio gba wa
Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Akanniade(m): 11:09pm On Mar 09, 2013
Its a greater torn in one's flesh when we have Judaizers as parents or siblings, whom we love with all our heart.

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Re: The Greatest Problem Facing Christianity Till Now Are The Judaizers by Candour(m): 11:19pm On Mar 09, 2013
Akanniade: Its a greater torn in one's flesh when we have Judaizers as parents or siblings, whom we love with all our heart.

my brother i can identify with you.It's really sad

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