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Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by Rare(m): 1:37pm On Apr 05, 2009
naijaking1:

I was in your position a few years ago.
My advice: take your Total job, save your money, gain your experience, and plan to use your experience for further studies in the future.
Work experience is a whole lot of education by itself if you remain focused.
Yes, work experience is a whole lot of education, which you won't learn in school. The argument is moreso valid with work experience in a company with a global perspective. It would be extremely useful when you eventually migrate abroad.

I've always had this battle within myself as well. Fresh from NYSC, I wanted to study in UK (my father willing to play a big role), and was denied visa. Two weeks later I got a job in an international organization. Looking back, I couldn't be more grateful to the visa officer.
Two years into my job; yes people have said it here you're more likely to be participating in that sponsorship and not just your dad. But it never stops a father from helping. He would even be happier to see himself as an assist not a full-sponsor.

But being in my working environment has made me acheive/learn a few things: (i) a clearer purpose when i do indeed embark on my masters eg; programs to apply for.  I can say exactly what the further degree could do, where, and how to market myself home or abroad (ii) working with a company with a global presence prepares you for the challenges of working abroad  (iii) from experience of colleagues who left for masters after 2-year work experience, it was impressive to most employers abroad the reputation of where they had worked coupled with the masters  (iv) you won't be bankrupt as a student, and won't settle for less afterwards.

Personally, if I were in a company willing to offer a lot of international trainings/courses and a very very good earning, the emphasis of masters would be diluted until after about 6-9 years work experience, during which time I could start a family, and subsequently 'comfortably' do an MBA or so because by then career targets would be managerial. All these improved thoughts came to me all because I was denied a study visa once upon a time.

Nevertheless, in the absence of the above, I could tolerate the Masters degree fresh out of school.

Just think over these points.

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Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by alex406(m): 1:49pm On Apr 05, 2009
I guess not one is perfect in life,everyone has spoken his or her mind its all for you to make the decision after the advice.For me i will not hestitate to grab the job and have some savings before heading to abroad for the much awaited masters afterall the masters can wait till anytime.
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by A40(m): 2:22pm On Apr 05, 2009
@poster of topic
I ain't no expert but if i where you i would take that job quicker than you can say Masters! you can push it back for a year and get some valuable work experience and connections that would beef up your C.V not forgetting you get to have some extra cash in your pocket for that time period


cabali:

@ poster

For u to have an option of masters means u are definitely old enough to make a decision for yourself. so the thread foxes me.

Next thing you will open a thread asking what course you should read or what colour of shirt you should wear on monday.

And like this forum we know, that will still make front page!
Roflmao!!
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by AmAlone: 3:43pm On Apr 05, 2009
Kelly Hand:

@poster

I STRONGLY ADVISE THAT YOU TAKE UP THE JOB. THERE IS CURRENTLY ECONOMIC CRISIS AND YOU KNOW WE HEAR MORE OF JOBLOSS. YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

AS FOR THE MASTERS, LIKE WHAT ONE OF THE POSTERS ABOVE SAID, IT CAN ALWAYS WAIT.TELL DAD TO THROW THE CASH INTO AN INVESTMENT HOUSE WHERE MORE INTEREST CAN BE GENERATED.

MIGHT ALSO INTEREST YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE VERY MANY MASTERS HOLDERS FROM SCHOOLS ABROAD WITHOUT JOBS BOTH HERE IN NAIJA AND ABROAD.

ANOTHER ADVANTAGE WORTHY OF NOTE IS THE FACT THAT FOREIGN COMPANIES ARE MORE INTERESTED IN THOSE WITH EXPERIENCE (AFTER MSC ABROAD).

CHOOSE WISELY BROTHER.

HAy! HAy!! HAy!! HAy!!!

GUy Abeg Give me YOur Account no. make I begin  dey throw money inSIDE

We NO NID Again tO AdvisE this GUY.

Na same thing way happen for London around the early 1960s. Those who porsue work latter were the ones employing the school goer(If that is the right word)

moNEY! Even the bible confirms it answereth most things. . . .
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by Isuata: 4:18pm On Apr 05, 2009
hmmn,

1. i think you should pray-like my pastor will always say,"wateva yu do, yu nid a word from God " get the word of God for dis situation

2. so while you are at that- you should count yurself lucky dat its yur dad payin and not some organisation wu wants yu to go or yu forfiet it-so wats the rush take the job and tell popsy to put the mony in a discount house for you(go negotiate the interest on it with a gud oneand start rollin it ova every 3 months). iam sure yur popsy will marvel at yur ingenuity(usethe interest to do some oda stuff wen yu eventually go for yur masters). but take the job now and get experience and a reference with an organisation like dat is not summin yu get everyday (weda contract or permanent)
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by kadman(m): 4:52pm On Apr 05, 2009
spikedcylinder:

Don't be ridiculous. People have differing opinions all the time, doesn't make either POV stupid. undecided undecided

If I don't share someone's point of view,it's because mostly I would think it's stupid,that's the basis of an argument,and that's why we have a forum. In another thread you just called someone razz for not sharing your point of view. Diffrent scenario,but same logic. . .
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by Sholeyb: 4:59pm On Apr 05, 2009
I would advise you to first ask God what u should do.

From my point of view as a human being, I would  suggest you take the job and go for a an online masters degree where you only travel abroad 2 or 3 times for a few weeks for part of the course. This would mean that you have your job and you can take a holiday to go abroad for your masters without losing your job.  In effect, you would complete your masters and hold on  to your job, this may be a win-win answer to your dilemma.
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by OpsE1: 5:11pm On Apr 05, 2009
My guy,
You need to ask yourself several questions, what are your values?, what are your long term goals like etc before you take any decision.

I can tell you as somebody that has worked as a Contract staff in one of the E&P companies, you will not get any fulfilment there, infact most people doing that kind of work are frustrated, just go back to Total and sample people's opinion.You have opportunity of positioning yourself for mega opportunities so why joining the League of the Frustrated People !!!

A masters in UK will open doors for you in any oil prod./servicing company.Even without experience, special preference is given to UK Masters holders.For example, in Shell if you have MSc in Oil& Gas related courses from Robert Gordon Univ.you are already several points ahead of others even without any experience, reason, the SITP is being handled by RGU and course content is close to RGU Master's courses.It's assumed that you've been exposed to what is needed by the company.
These companies go for annual aggressive recruitments for oversea grads.

Again, who says you must work in Nigeria, there are several companies recruiting guys for jobs in several fields around the world despite the recession and your degree will position you to compete for that.I know so many guys that got wonderful jobs after attending OTCs, Oil&Gas seminars/fairs where several companies scout for workers, and that's basically because of their external pali.You can even decide not to work and build yourself and become a Consultant in just one area, who says all consultants are experienced people.

I'll advise you to go for the Masters, anything can happen to your Dad at anytime and that is why you should use the opportunity now before the promise enter 'voice mail'.
Don't listen to people saying there are several UK Master grads without work, yes there are and there will always be but what is the %?.

My guy, go for Masters and you'll be amazed what will happen after.

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Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by FBS: 5:45pm On Apr 05, 2009
how long is the contract job? masters in what?
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by bayonle1(m): 6:35pm On Apr 05, 2009
man mi,me thinks it better off to get a master`s degree since the cost s to borne by your father.the job wud only worth it in a short while.u get better stable offers after your master`s degree.
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by songus: 7:30pm On Apr 05, 2009
Though, I wish you no evil. Your Father will not Live Forever. Unless you think he has better things to do with that Money than send you to school, this really is a no-brainer!. Once you start earning money, You may discover how difficult it is to get away from work to finish your planned studies. Better to raise the Bar in the begining , than to try and do it later.
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by jfrances1: 8:10pm On Apr 05, 2009
[b][/b]i advice, u take up the contract job, gain some experience atleast for a year, save up some good cash for ur self before u consider going for the masters abroab.
reason
popsy can still sponsor u anytime, and the experience really counts that atleast, u worked after graduation before going for the masters than it has been bookbook all thru.
thank about it.


good luck
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by spikedcylinder: 9:45pm On Apr 05, 2009
kadman:

If I don't share someone's point of view,it's because mostly I would think it's stupid,that's the basis of an argument,and that's why we have a forum. In another thread you just called someone razz for not sharing your point of view. Diffrent scenario,but same logic. . .

No, different scenario, different logic.
Oh look there, I just disagreed with you, does that make you stupid?
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by kadman(m): 11:03pm On Apr 05, 2009
spikedcylinder:

No, different scenario, different logic.
Oh look there, I just disagreed with you, does that make you stupid?

Hmm no,but from your earlier post,not sharing your point of view makes me ridiculous,now people not agreeing with you are razz and ridiculous ? Easy on the tyranny.
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by spikedcylinder: 6:41am On Apr 06, 2009
kadman:

Hmm no,but from your earlier post,not sharing your point of view makes me ridiculous,now people not agreeing with you are razz and ridiculous ? Easy on the tyranny.

Tyranny? If you had issues with what I said on that thread, please address it there and I will respond to you. On this thread however, no one is stupid because they said something quite different from what you have said. Geddit?
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by dipotepede(m): 8:05am On Apr 06, 2009
Get 2 years experience and do your MBA free of charge.

Click http://www.dipotepede.com/2009/04/02/mba-scholarship-in-sweden/
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by aduje(m): 9:54am On Apr 06, 2009
Boy!
Go for the masters! you stand the chance of getting a more paying job with high level career path when you are armed with a Masters Degree than a contract job of N200k. The allowance at Total may be attractive, but when you get married, start running your life by your self, it will not sustain you. When the contract terminates, you will be found at zero level. Good luck
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by cvibe: 11:33am On Apr 06, 2009
@ poster

Go for your Masters and be the best in what you do cos all the companies you run after here in Naija are the ones that usually run after students in the UK. I.e. in form of on-campus open day recruitment drive, recruitment shows etc.

I studied in the UK so i know what I'm talking about and If you're lucky, you might even get a company that will post you back to Naija as an expatriate.
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by olagboye(m): 12:00pm On Apr 06, 2009
hello my brother, i am speaking from experience. i was a contract staff in on of these banks and i experienced all the things you listed yourself. i was about to start my masters when i was called for the job and took the job. i spent one year with bank then resigned now to start my masters. i will advise you go for your masters if you dont want to go through what i went through. money is not everything, fulfillment is. good luck.
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by c0274309: 12:14pm On Apr 06, 2009
Feels quite strange reading this as you're making a decision I had to take 6 years backs. I'll not tell you exactly which option to take as it's totally up to you however I'll give you a few pointers which may help you make your mind:

(1) Do you think you'll feel sorry if you never get the opportunity to study a Masters in the UK again with the HomeOffice changing rules like a model changes clothes.

(2) If your Contract is terminated (which is a possibility at anytime), are there any other immediate job options available for you to explore?? Remember only very few (if any at all) are made permanent in such Companies.  

(3) Once you physically start earning 200K a month Will your Sponsor i.e. your popsie stop looking at you as a boy but rather like a man capable of fending for himself ?? If Yes possibly there goes your 100% freebies on sponsorship.

(4) Sorry if I'm wrong but I anticipate you're in your Mid-twenties - Consider your Age and education?? Are you prepared to study in your latter years cos it's not an easy thing to do?? Note it also gets more difficult with a family.

(5) Someone earlier asked what your goals and aspirations are? Quite very true!! What are your personal goals & aspirations? What long term benefits does the contract job Total's offering you in comparision to a Masters degree from the UK and base these against your set goals ??


If you can answer these and be true to yourself then you've get your answer.

NB: The current recession not only affects the UK but cuts across the globe - Naija inclusive (which makes getting a career profile job more difficult anywhere) however educated specialists stand a far better chance than others in such situations due to flexibility.
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by IbrahimB: 2:58pm On Apr 06, 2009
Quote: "NB - Also take into consideration the fact that a contract job gives u that money only, no promotion, no benefits, chances of conversion  to staff very slim, intimidation in the office dey too etc"

My dear friend you've said it all. Clearly, your mind tells you to go for the Masters; otherwise you wouldn't be expressing this reservation on the Total Contract Work.

We achieve success in life, sometimes, by listening to our inner selves. The decision lies ENTIRELY with you. All the advice given above have great merit in them; consider them, listen to yourself, and make that important decision.

Good luck!

Ibrahim
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by server34(m): 4:00pm On Apr 06, 2009
The Poster no dey here again sef. He didnt tell which course he's gonna study for his masters and where . . . He didnt tell d kind of contract job he was offered by Total.

I also noticed on d thread that most of the learned ones abroad are advising you to take d job. I will stick wit them . . . defer your admission for one year. Total is a good company, you could get employed during your contract job, and I know Total sponsors their staff for Masters abroad. . . u'll just use the money u would've saved in one year plus ur dad's money to flex while studying. . . .
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by kadman(m): 4:24pm On Apr 06, 2009
spikedcylinder:

Tyranny? If you had issues with what I said on that thread, please address it there and I will respond to you. On this thread however, no one is stupid because they said something quite different from what you have said. Geddit?

Nope no issues,on the contary you're one of my fave people on this forum,but it's wrong that you can call people stupid ( in other words ),and you feel I shouldn't. That's all
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by kliffo(m): 9:00pm On Apr 06, 2009
I think most people are of the opinion that the masters programme is a better option. Even with the GEM, the masters will give you better prospects in future.
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by spikedcylinder: 7:36am On Apr 07, 2009
kadman:

Nope no issues,on the contary you're one of my fave people on this forum,but it's wrong that you can call people stupid ( in other words ),and you feel I shouldn't. That's all

Lol. Aight then. smiley
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by babseg(m): 10:51am On Apr 07, 2009
myboo, my best advice 4 u is to take the contract job. I am in uk studying my masters course in petroleum technology. Getting a job now is very difficult because of the credit crunch. I have applied to many oil companies but what they need is experience, what u can do but not really ur certificate.

We all know experience is the best teacher if the contract work is just 12months take it u can always come back for ur masters. Juts make sure you know what u are doing.

Doing a masters course in uk does that guaranteed a job? I am there now and i know what we are facing here. I will advice u to get experience in ur field. u can come back for ur masters.
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by CChild(f): 6:19pm On Apr 07, 2009
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by CChild(f): 6:21pm On Apr 07, 2009
@ Ops E
''A masters in UK will open doors for you in any oil prod./servicing company.Even without experience, special preference is given to UK Masters holders.For example, in Shell if you have MSc in Oil& Gas related courses from Robert Gordon Univ.you are already several points ahead of others even without any experience, reason, the SITP is being handled by RGU and course content is close to RGU Master's courses.It's assumed that you've been exposed to what is needed by the company.
These companies go for annual aggressive recruitments for oversea grads''[color=#990000][/color]

Guy/Lady, You need to get your facts straight. A Masters in RGU is treated as equivalent to the SITP programme. The SITP happens to be sponsored by the company and for every 1 foreign grad employed, there are at least 20 SITP taken so where did you get the notion that Shell gives preference to foreign grads? Dont confuse the poster.

@ Poster. I would STRONGLY advise you to take the job. Two years of work experience even as a contract staff DOES give you an edge over a Masters degree holder. I am one, so kindly take it from me. And yes, after paying at least 10K Quid for a decent masters programme, you would still need to go through the same test and interview process as the fresh grads recruited internally. No edge, no higher level. The only difference is that they spent their time in SITP @ Warri and you spent yours plus YOUR money wherever abroad.

But all this is a bit silly. Just realised that the first post was over a year ago. This guy has obviously made his choice already! Who resurrected this post from neverland?
Re: Contract Job With Total (200k) Vs Masters In The Uk: Which Do U Prefer? by gben1: 9:07pm On Apr 07, 2009
helo my brother am here in uk. pls hold onto that job be it contract , experience count a lot i mean what am saying here there is no job unless you wnat to wash plate. am in uk u can reach me here ogundipe_gbenga01@yahoo.com i will put you thru then i can give u my number

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