In the Qu'ran itself, within some of its chapters, it foretells events in the future that have come true; these are more commonly known as “prophecies”.

It tells the story of the Exodus from Egypt, in which Moses and the Hebrews enslaved to the Pharaoh of the time escape -

“We delivered the Children of Israel across the sea. Pharaoh and his troops pursued them, aggressively and sinfully. When drowning became a reality for him, he said, “I believe there is no god except in the One whom the Children of Israel have believed; I am of those who submit. Too late! For you have rebelled already, and chose to be a transgressor.We preserve your body, to set you up as a lesson for future generations. Verily, many among mankind are totally oblivious to Our signs.” (Holy The Great Book, from 10:90 to 10:92)

As you can see from the above passage, The The Great Book prophesises that the body of the Pharaoh will be preserved for future generations.

This was proved correct when the mummy of Merneptah (the Pharaoh of the Exodus) was discovered well preserved in 1898, and it can be seen on display in the Royal Mummies Room of the Egyptian Museum, here in Cairo.

Even though, this event occurred over 3000 years ago (more than 1600 years before The Great Prophet) according to both archaeological and Biblical data, the author of The The Great Book predicted that the body of the Pharaoh would be preserved as a sign for future generations, which is nowhere to be found in the Biblical version.

Frizy:

In the Qu'ran itself, within some of its chapters, it foretells events in the future that have come true; these are more commonly known as “prophecies”.

It tells the story of the Exodus from Egypt, in which Moses and the Hebrews enslaved to the Pharaoh of the time escape -

“We delivered the Children of Israel across the sea. Pharaoh and his troops pursued them, aggressively and sinfully. When drowning became a reality for him, he said, “I believe there is no god except in the One whom the Children of Israel have believed; I am of those who submit. Too late! For you have rebelled already, and chose to be a transgressor.We preserve your body, to set you up as a lesson for future generations. Verily, many among mankind are totally oblivious to Our signs.” (Holy The Great Book, from 10:90 to 10:92)

As you can see from the above passage, The The Great Book prophesises that the body of the Pharaoh will be preserved for future generations.

This was proved correct when the mummy of Merneptah (the Pharaoh of the Exodus) was discovered well preserved in 1898, and it can be seen on display in the Royal Mummies Room of the Egyptian Museum, here in Cairo.

Even though, this event occurred over 3000 years ago (more than 1600 years before The Great Prophet) according to both archaeological and Biblical data, the author of The The Great Book predicted that the body of the Pharaoh would be preserved as a sign for future generations, which is nowhere to be found in the Biblical version.

So this is your basis for the connotation of the Qu'ran with science? lol

Number 2:
A very interesting prophecy relates to the moon landing (which occurred in 1969), is it possible The Qu'ran predicted this? Well, judge for yourself by considering the following information – Chapter 54 of The The Great Book is entitled “The Moon” and starts right away by giving us news about the splitting of the moon as a sign that the end of the world is drawing close.

“The moon has split and the hour has drawn closer” (The The Great Book, 54:1)

When did the prophecy come to pass?

To answer that, one must keep the prophecy in mind: “The moon has split.” This is a metaphor. Parts of the moon have left its surface. They no longer are part of the moon. So, the prophecy does not refer to the landing on the moon or to the first step made by Neil Armstrong but to the fact that Armstrong and Aldrin collected 21 kilograms of lunar rocks to bring back to earth. The prophecy was fulfilled at the very moment the astronauts left the moon in the lunar module containing 21 kilograms of rocks that had belonged to the moon. This can be confirmed by checking the definition of “split” in any dictionary, among the definitions given by Dictionary.com are – “to divide, disunite, separate”

The date this prophecy came to pass was on July 21 1969. The moment the prophecy was fulfilled is confirmed by the hour of departure of the lunar module, which left the lunar surface at 17:54:1 (Universal Time) or 1:54:1 (EDT) and as you have seen above, verse [54:1] is the verse that deals with the prophecy.

Still not convinced? Lets read the following verses after (54:1) –

“The moon has split and the hour has drawn closer. Then they saw a great miracle; but they turned away and said, “prolonged delusion.” They disbelieved, followed their opinions, and adhered to their old traditions.” (The Qu'ran, from 54:1 to 54:3)

Here, the author of The The Great Book specifically states – “the moon has split”, then people will see “a great miracle”, yet they still “disbelieved”. Could the “great miracle” be the fulfilment of prophecy?

NOTE: THIS WAS THE ASSUMPTION BY A MUS'LIM PROFESSOR BEFORE THE PICTURE OF MOON SPLIT WAS TAKEN.

JayFK:

So this is your basis for the connotation of the Qu'ran with science? lol

Yeah, I guess I meant science and history. I thanks for your observations.
There loads of scientific evidences coming.

Number 3
CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE
From an examination of creation as described in the Qur’an, an extremely important general concept emerges: The Qur’anic narration is quite different from the Biblical narration. This idea contradicts the parallels which are often wrongly
drawn by Western authors to emphasize the resemblance between the two texts.To stress only the similarities, while silently ignoring the obvious dissimilarities, is to distort reality. There is, perhaps, a reason for this.

When talking about creation, there is a strong tendency in the West to claim that Muhamma'd copied the general outlines mentioned in the Qur’an from the Bible.Certainly it is possible to compare the six days of creation as described in the Bible, plus an extra day for rest on God’s Sabbath, with this verse from chapter al-A‘raaf.
“Your Lord is God who created the heavens and the earth in six days.” Qur’an, 7:54
However, it must be pointed out that modern commentators stress the interpretation of the Arabic word ayyaam, one translation of which is ‘days’), as meaning ‘long periods’ or ‘ages’ rather than periods of twenty-four hours.
What appears to be of fundamental importance to me is that, in contrast to the narration contained in the Bible, the Qur’an does not lay down a sequence for creation of the earth and heavens. It refers both to the heavens before the earth and the earth before the heavens, when it talks of creation in general, as in this verse of chapter Taa Haa:
“(God) who created the earth and heavens above." Qur’an, 20:4
In fact, the notion derived from the Qur’an is one of a parallelism in the celestial and terrestrial evolutions. There are also basic pieces of information concerning the existence of an initial gaseous mass ( dukhaan ) which are unique to the
Qur’an.
As well as descriptions of the elements which, although at first were fused together ( ratq ), they subsequently became separated (fatq). These ideas are expressed in chapters Fussilat and al-Anbiyaa:
“God then rose turning towards the heaven when it was smoke” Qur’an, 41:11
“Do the disbelievers not see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then I split them apart?” Qur’an, 21:30
According to modern science, the separation process resulted in the formation of multiple worlds, a concept which appears dozens of times in the Qur’an. For example, look at the first chapter of the Qur’an, al-Faatihah “Praise be to God, Lord of the Worlds.” Qur’an, 1:1 ). These Qur’anic references are a11 in perfect agreement with modern ideas on the existence of primary nebula (galactic dust), followed by the separation of the elements which resulted in the formation of galaxies and then stars from which the planets were born.Reference is also made in the Qur’an to an intermediary creation between the heavens and the earth, as seen in chapter al-Furqaan:
“God is the one who created the heavens, the earth and what is between them, ” Qur’an, 25:59

It would seem that this intermediary creation corresponds to the modern discovery of bridges of matter which are present outside organized astronomical systems.
This brief survey of Qur’anic references to creation clearly shows us how modern scientific data and statements in the Qur’an consistently agree on a large number of points. In contrast, the successive phases of creation mentioned in the Biblical text are totally unacceptable. For example, in Genesis 1:9-19 the creation of the earth (on the 3rd day) is placed before that of the heavens (on the 4th day). It is a well known fact that our planet came from its own star, the sun. In such circumstances, how could anyone claim that The Great Prophet, the supposed author of the Qur’an, drew his inspiration from the Bible.
Such a claim would mean that, of his own accord, he corrected the Biblical text to arrive at the correct concept concerning the formation of the Universe. Yet the correct concept was reached by scientists many centuries after his death.

Number 4:
ASTRONOMY
Whenever I describe to Westerners the details the Qur’an contains on certain points of astronomy, it is common for someone to reply that there is nothing unusual in this since the Arabs made important discoveries in the field of astronomy long before the Europeans. But, this is a mistaken idea resulting from an ignorance of history.
In the first place, science developed in the Arab World at a considerable time after the Qur’anic revelation had occurred. Secondly, the scientific knowledge prevalent at the highpoint of Great Religious civilization would have made it impossible for any human being to have written statements on the heavens comparable to those in the Qur’an. The material on this subject is so vast that I can only provide a brief outline of it here.
The Sun and Moon.
Whereas the Bible talks of the sun and the moon as two lights differing only in
size, the Qur’an distinguishes between them by the use of different terms: light
(noor) for the moon, and lamp (siraaj) for the sun.
"Did you see how God created seven heavens, one above the other, and made in them the moon a light and the sun a lamp?"Qur’an, 78:12-13
The moon is an inert body which reflects light, whereas the sun is a celestial body in a state of permanent combustion producing both light and heat.
Stars and Planets
The word ‘star’ (najm) in the Qur’an ( 86:3 ) is accompanied by the adjective thaaqib which indicates that it burns and consumes itself as it pierces through the shadows of the night. It was much later discovered that stars are heavenly
bodies producing their own light like the sun.
In the Qur’an, a different word, kawkab, is used to refer to the planets which are celestial bodies that reflect light and do not produce their own light like the sun.
“We have adorned the lowest heaven with ornaments, the planets.” Qur’an,
37:6
Orbits
Today, the laws governing the celestial systems are well known. Galaxies are balanced by the position of stars and planets in well-defined orbits, as well as the interplay of gravitational forces produced by their masses and the speed of their movements. But is this not what the Qur’an describes in terms which have only
become comprehensible in modern times. In chapter al-Ambiyaa we find: “(God is) the one who created the night, the day, the sun and the moon. Each one is traveling in an orbit with its own motion.” Qur’an,21:33 The Arabic word which expresses this movement is the verb yasbahoon which implies the idea of motion produced by a moving body, whether it is the movement of one’s legs running on the ground, or the action of swimming in water. In the case of a celestial body, one is forced to translate it, according to its original meaning, as ‘to travel with its own motion.’
The Bible, The Qur'an and Science, I have given the precise scientific data corresponding to the motion of celestial bodies. They are well known for the moon, but less widely known for the sun.
The Day and Night[/b]The Qur’anic description of the sequence of day and night would, in itself, be rather commonplace were it not for the fact that it is expressed in terms that are today highly appropriate. The Qur’an uses the verb kawwara in chapter az-Zumar to describe the way the night ‘winds’ or ‘coils’ itself around the day and the day
around the night.“He coils the night upon the day and the day upon the night.”
[b]Qur’an, 39:5
The original meaning of the verb kis to coil a turban around the head. This is a totally valid comparison; yet at the time the Qur’an was revealed, the astronomical data necessary to make this comparison were unknown. It is not until man landed on the moon and observed the earth spinning on its axis, that the dark half of the globe appeared to wind itself around the light and the light half appeared to wind itself around the dark.
The Solar Apex
The notion of a settled place for the sun is vividly described in chapter Yaa Seen of the Qur’an:"The sun runs its coarse to a settled place That is the decree of the Almighty, the All Knowing.” Qur’an, 36:38
“Settled place” is the translation of the word mustaqarr which indicates an exact appointed place and time. Modern astronomy confirms that the solar system is indeed moving in space at a rate of 12 miles per second towards a point situated in the constellation of Hercules ( alpha lyrae ) whose exact location has been precisely calculated. Astronomers have even give it a name, the solar apex.
Expansion of the Universe
Chapter ath-Thaariyaat of the Qur’an also seems to allude to one of the most imposing discoveries of modern science, the expansion of the Universe.“I built the heaven with power and it is I, who am expanding it.” Qur’an,51:47
The expansion of the universe was first suggested by the general theory of relativity and is supported by the calculations of astrophysics. The regular movement of the galactic light towards the red section of the spectrum is explained by the distancing of one galaxy from another. Thus, the size of the universe appears to be progressively increasing.
Conquest of Space
Among the achievements of modern science is the “conquest” of space which has resulted in mans journey to the moon. The prediction of this event surely springs to mind when we read the chapter ar-Rahmaan in the Qur’an:
“O assembly of Jinns and men, if you can penetrate the
regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate them!You will not penetrate them except with authority.”Qur’an,55:33
Authority to travel in space can only come from the Creator of the laws which govern movement and space. The whole of this Qur’anic chapter invites humankind to recognize God’s beneficence.

Number 5
GEOLOGY
Let us now return to earth to discover some of the many amazing statements
contained in Qur’anic reflections about our own planet. They deal, not only with
the physical phenomena observed here on earth, but also with details concerning
the living organisms that inhabit it.
As in the case of everything we have discussed so far, we shall see that the
Qur’an also expresses concepts in the field of geology that were way ahead of
those current at the time of its revelation.
At this point, we must ask ourselves the following question: How could an
uneducated man in the middle of the desert accurately tackle so many and such
varied subjects at a time when mythology and superstition reigned supreme?
How could he so skillfully avoid every belief that was proven to be totally
inaccurate many centuries later?
Water Cycle
The verses dealing with the earthly systems are a case in point. I have quoted a
large number of them in my book, The Bible, The Qur’an and Science, and have
paid special attention to those that deal with the water cycle in nature. This is a
topic which is well known today. Consequently, the verses in the Qur’an that refer
to the water cycle seem to express ideas that are now totally self-evident. But if
we consider the ideas prevalent at that time, they appear to be based more on
myth and philosophical speculation than on observed fact, even though useful
practical knowledge on soil irrigation was current at that period.
Let us examine, for example, the following verse in chapter az-Zumar:
“Have you not seen that God sent rain down from the sky and
caused it to penetrate the ground and come forth as springs,
then He caused crops of different colors to grow, ”
Qur’an,39:21
Such notions seem quite natural to us today, but we should not forget that, not so
long ago, they were not prevalent. It was not until the sixteenth century, with
Bernard Palissy, that we gained the first coherent description of the water cycle.
Prior to this, people believed that the waters of the oceans, under the effect of
winds, were thrust towards the interior of the continents. They then returned to
the oceans via the great abyss, which, since Plato’s time was called the Tartarus
.In the seventeenth century, great thinkers such as Descartes still believed in this
myth. Even in the nineteenth century there were still those who believed in
Aristotle’s theory that water was condensed in cool mountain caverns and formed
underground lakes that fed springs. Today, we know that it is the infiltration of
rain water into the ground that is responsible for this. If one compares the facts of
modern hydrology with the data found in numerous verses of the Qur’an on this
subject, one cannot fail to notice the remarkable degree of agreement between
the two.
Mountains
In geology, modern science has recently discovered the phenomenon of folding
which formed the mountain ranges. The earth’s crust is like a solid shell, while
the deeper layers are hot and fluid, and thus inhospitable to any form of life. It
has also been discovered that the stability of mountains is linked to the
phenomenon of folding. The process of mountain formation by folding drove the
earth’s crust down into the lower layers and provided foundations for the
mountains.
Let us now compare modern ideas with one verse among many in the Qur’an
that deals with this subject. It is taken from chapter an-Naba’:
“Have We not made the earth an expanse and the mountains
stakes?”
Qur’an, 78:6-7
Stakes ( awtaad ), which are driven into the ground like those used to anchor a
tent, are the deep foundations of geological folds.
Here, as in the case of all the other topics presented, the objective observer
cannot fail to notice the absence of any contradiction to modern knowledge.

David, your attitude is unbecoming. These "long" entries are to whet your appetite for the longer exegesis in Medical Textbooks, like Gray's anatomy!

exegesis in Medical Textbooks, Like Gray's Anatomy, hmm, is it that you are a medical practitioner or you are trying to sound like one,

funny that there is also Grey's Anatomy (TV Series),

Salam alaikum, and holla

It's like a war in here with people giving rejoinder to one another, funny, it's really not what i had expected to see, imust confess i'm a little disappointed in most of you guys, cos i think threads like this will hthrive better if you guys let go of useless, baseless and illogical arguments but rather enlighten one another { of same religion} instead of barking at on another, it's about time that oluwaseun said something about this,
There are so so many issue to threat in islam as well as Christianity,Judaism, and, mmm, "pardon my saying this", paganism .
So why not create avenues for your brethrens who are have weakness of faith, {Ad-aful-Eeman} to learn better about their religion instead of going on wild goose chase. I am a regular nairalander just any of you here its just that i never knew of a religious chaos religious thread. Well you guyz will seee more of me .
over and out,

Uthainah:


So why not create avenues for your brethrens who are have weakness of faith, {Ad-aful-Eeman} to learn better about their religion instead of going on wild goose chase. ,

That is what this thread was intended for but instead of allowing people who want to make positive contribution by the information gained therein, you find out that some people try and distract the purpose of it.
It's really bad that you see fellow christain's refuting this claim without any sound agrument. They have already made up their minds that it is false and carefully cooked(made up).

@Uthainah

well, it nice to hear that what you say's, but people have different perception regarding religion.

this is not the place for preaching other faith went you get some other fitback with is not appropriate to hear something

negative and luck of information.

salam.

salam alaikum ikhwa,

i understand you but perhaps you guyz are moving a little too fast with your da'wah methodology. Even the holy prophet SAW could not change some of his very own relations, see, you don't expect people to accept the call without a fight but their are limitations. Aight?
Allah changes the hearts of whom he will, let them be, afterall, Allah has said in surah baqarah, they are like Anams, Nay lower than An-aams. They are simply attesting to that fact by seeking a challenge outta everything you post.
Akhi, let the muslims get to know one another better let them ask questions concerning that which they know not about their religion, a perfect Da'aee is one who is absolutely clear about his religion , fi amali, wa fiqh wa tawheed wa kullu masala tul islamiyyah. Lets treat our short falls before reaching out to other.

I hope i have not said anything rude, if i had my sincere apologies, May Allah giude us all aright.

And Allah knows best, wa asalama alaikum warahmatullah

Number 6:
BIOLOGY
More than anything else, I was struck by statements in the Qur’an dealing with
living things, both in the animal and vegetable kingdoms, especially with regard
to reproduction. We should really devote much more time to this subject, but, due
to the limited scope of this presentation, I can only give a few examples.
I must once again stress the fact that it is only in modern times that scientific
progress has made the hidden meaning of some Qur’anic verses
comprehensible to us. Numerous translations and commentaries on the Qur’an
have been made by learned men who had no access to modern scientific
knowledge. It is for this reason that scientists find some of their interpretations
unacceptable.
There are also other verses whose obvious meanings are easily understood, but
which conceal
scientific meanings which are startling, to say the least. This is the case of a
verse in chapter al-Ambiyaa, a part of which has already been quoted:
“Do the unbelievers not realize that the heavens and the earth
were joined together,
then I clove them asunder and I made every living thing out of
water. Will they still not believe?” Qur’an, 21:30
This is a dramatic affirmation of the modern idea that the origin of life is aquatic.
Botany
Progress in botany at the time of Muhammad (S) was not advanced enough in
any country for scientists to know that plants have both male and female parts.
Nevertheless, we may read the following in the chapter Taa Haa:
“(God is the One who) sent down rain from the sky and with it
brought forth a variety of plants in pairs.” Qur’an, 20:53
Today we know that fruit comes from plants that have sexual characteristics even
when they come from unfertilized flowers, like bananas. In the chapter ar-Ra‘d
we read the following:
“, and of all fruits (God) placed (on the earth) two pairs.”
Qur’an, 13:3
Physiology
In the field of physiology, there is one verse which appears extremely significant
to me. One thousand years before the discovery of the blood circulatory system,
and roughly thirteen centuries before it was determined that the internal organs
were nourished by the process of digestive , a verse in the Qur’an described the
source of the constituents of milk, in conformity with scientific facts.
To understand this verse, it must first be known that chemical reactions occur
between food and enzymes in the mouth, the stomach and the intestines
releasing nutrients in molecular form which are then absorbed into the circulatory
system through countless microscopic projections of the intestinal wall called villi.
Blood in the circulatory system then transports the nutrients to all the organs of
the body, among which are the milk-producing mammary glands.
This biological process must be basically understood, if we are to understand a
verse in the Qur’an which has for many centuries given rise to commentaries that
were totally incomprehensible.
Today it is not difficult to see why! This verse is taken from the chapter an-Nahl:
“Verily, in cattle there is a lesson for yon. I give you drink from
their insides, coming from a conjunction between the digested
contents ( of the intestines ) and the blood, milk pure and
pleasant for those who drink it.” Qur’an, 16:66
The constituents of milk are secreted by the mammary glands which are
nourished by the product of food digestion brought to them by the bloodstream.
The initial event which sets the whole process in motion is the conjunction of the
contents of the intestine and blood at the level of the intestinal wall itself.
This very precise concept is the result of the discoveries made in the chemistry
and physiology of the digestive system over one thousand years after the time of
Prophet Muhamma'd (p.b.u.h)

Below is a list of a few of why Mohammmed was a confused liar:
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Mohammmed teaches that Mary the mother of Jesus was the Sister of Aaron and Moses,

, What how come, How can a Moses and Aaron who lived 1500years before be related to Mary Mother of Jesus , for goodness sake, Aba, hhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhaaaaaaaaaa, Na wa o, wonders shall never end!

Mohammmed also teaches that Noah's flood happened during the time of Moses,
, aaaahhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhaaaaaaaaaa, its rather sad there was no psychiatric hospitals then, men this Mohammmed guy sef is really off the craziness charts.! He is certainly too mad to be true.


Mohammmed also teaches in one place the Noah and his family survived the flood (which he already says happened during Moses time), in another place, the same Mohammmed says that[b] Noah's sons' died in the flood[/b],

, Haba another blatant confusion ,


These people must really have a multiple personality disorder problem cus how can a right thinking person hear and see a few of those little things above and still not realise that Mohammmed is a lying , murdering , raping, incesting , peadophilic, false prophet piece of garbage!

As a Christian the bible clearly tells me what I need to do to be saved in other to be able to make it to heaven, (Christian Heaven I mean),

However Alllah does not even tell M.u.s.l.i.m.s what to do before they are guaranteed i.s.l.a.m.ic heaven, infact they cannot know whether they have done anything right or wrong until they die and no longer have the chance to change (don't forget that Alllah has not even told them what to do in the first place).

No wonder some of them are just desperate and fed up enough to want to die for Alllah so as to quickly be able to gatecrash their 72 virgin paradise, Mohammmed himself did not know whether or not he was going to enter their paradise, despite all his huffing and puffing.


babs787 hope this is good enough for you to discuss,

@ The Great Ones

I am one who honestly wants to undersand u. As u clearly see, I don't go about bashing any religion.

So if u will please answer for me, how it is Muhammad came about the holy book. Why did he "go away"? How was it revealed to him?
I am a christian and my religion came about years before yours. Why should I believe that the Angel did appear to Muhammad and told him these "truths"? When my "Prophet, Jesus Christ" told me that he is the way and no one goes to the Father (God) except through him. Why then should I follow Muhammad? What makes his story authentic other than the fact that it says so in the Qu'ran (the book is questionable, in my opinion)?
Why shouldn't I believe that Muhammad is a false prophet as prophecied by Jesus? And Finally, please don't take this the wrong way, but I am speaking from my observations, why do Muslims want to justify that Muhammad was prophecied about in the Bible, yet attack the Bible and call it a book of lies? Why would u want to associate Muhammad with the book of lies?

I really hope you will answer my questions with honesty, as I am truly curious.

@Uthainah

Hello, I asked some questions above and no one seems to be answering me, could u kindly answer please. Please disregard the attacks by "so-called" Christians.

furthermore an bat of disbelief in this is an apostacy. we believe that ALLAH is one, none deserves worship other than HIM, HE begots not nor was HE begotten and there's none like him. to accept that HE had a son is to belittle HIM. in the commonly read john 3:16, who was giving the report? there's nowhere in the bible where jesus called himself GOD or son of GOD but rather son of man. besides many a time has GOD addressed his prophets as sons

~Lady~:

@ The Great Ones

I am one who honestly wants to undersand u. As u clearly see, I don't go about bashing any religion.

So if u will please answer for me, how it is The Great Prophet came about the holy book. Why did he "go away"? How was it revealed to him?

@lady
I saw your questions yesterday but I was about to sleep so I postponed it to this morning. I will answer them(i.s.a) as easy as I can, and I hope the reasons for these questions it not a challenge but rather a dialogue that will make you understand Isl'am better.
You see, many people talk ignornantly about the Isla'mic doctoroine because the have a different belief system. Islam preaches to the world the importance of worshipping One God only; this means you don't ask favours(divine) from any but God alone. Don't ask angels, babalawo,saints(who are dead) or even Jesus.According to Isla'm asking help or obeying them for something which is contrary to God's law is also worshipping them.
Now to your question the prophet Muhamm'ed came about the Holy book(kor'an) through inspiration by angel Gabriel. Mecca was in a chaos- they were idol worshippers and if God could send Noah,Jonah,Moses and Jesus to people why don't you believe God sent Mohamm'ed?
Mohamme'd was not a false prophet(God forbid) those who say such and think that way are debad from the truth. If you understand colloquial Arabic and listen to the Ko'ran you can't but wonder how a man could be an author of such a koran. Mohamm'ed is not the author of the ko'ran and furthermore, Muhamme'd couldn't read or write. How then do you explain a book what has very accuarte information and wisdom. God Himself is the author of the Ko'ran he promised in a verse saying:"We shall guard it from corruption"
That is why the Ko'ran today is exactly the same as it was 1400+ years. Sorry to say, the bible one the otherhand was written by men, some prophets and some weren't. And because of contradictions some things were removed or replaced.
God's law is forever and you won't find any changing in His word.A muslim with an understanding of the Ko'ran can tell what is true from untrue in the bible. I read the first verses of John(or so) and it said:
In the beginning was God. . .and the word is God.
No man with a sound judgement will understand this. I concluded that it was meant to be: and the word is God's.Concisdently, I watched a program on Tv too saying that verse was tampered with in order to fit Paul's doctrine.To be born a Christain is not a sin but when you know the truth please hinge to it and stop thinking we're all sinners or someone died for your sins. You're accountable to very thing yu're doing and to be saved from the doom of fire, you must live and restrict your life to what God commanded not what a man(Paul) tells you.

I am a christian and my religion came about years before yours. Why should I believe that the Angel did appear to The Great Prophet and told him these "truths"? When my "Prophet, Jesus Christ" told me that he is the way and no one goes to the Father (God) except through him. Why then should I follow The Great Prophet? What makes his story authentic other than the fact that it says so in the Qu'ran (the book is questionable, in my opinion)?
Why shouldn't I believe that The Great Prophet is a false prophet as prophecied by Jesus? And Finally, please don't take this the wrong way, but I am speaking from my observations, why do Great Ones want to justify that The Great Prophet was prophecied about in the Bible, yet attack the Bible and call it a book of lies? Why would u want to associate The Great Prophet with the book of lies?

It is not which religion that came first, but which is true.By the way Isla'm was not preached on by Muhamm'ed, many prophet of the old said men should worship no other god(Jesus,mary,Izra,idols and the devil) but God Almighty Himself. I don't know why many Christains say Alla'h is not God!When English itself is not the language of the christains. The tribes that began speaking English were very rebellious against God and later setteld in England. God has many names depending on the language you speak. Musl'ims justify?We're only telling you that Muh'ammed was foretold long before his birth, the book of deutormony says so and some parts of the new testament. Please to believe is another thing but it is true. The original Torah revealed to Moses was not fake and Musli'ms believe in it but what happened was that the God said:"And they change the word to purchase a little gain, evil is that they gain thereby"
The Gospel inspired to Jesus Christ himself is also believed by musl'ms what we don't believe is that the Gospel you find in the bible was written after Jesus' departure.The early fellowers of Christ like the disciplines didn't worsip Jesus they were his helpers and they believed in only One God without compromse. Paul is the man responsible for the new book, and I can tell you the ship wreck on one of his travels was to show that God is not pleased on an imposter,

Madam,

the Topic says Qu'ran:the Only Religious Book That Connotes With Science and History. and so far since yesterday . i had to be deleting offtopic post. keep to the topic at hand
my gender has NOTHING to do with this .

EMBRYOLOGY
There are a multitude of statements in the Qur’an on the subject of human
reproduction which constitute a challenge to the embryologist seeking a human
explanation for them. It was only after the birth of the basic sciences which
contributed to our knowledge of biology and the invention of the microscope, that
humans were able to understand the depth of those Qur’anic statements. It was
impossible for a human being living in the early seventh century to have
accurately expressed such ideas. There is nothing to indicate that people in the
Middle-East and Arabia knew anything more about this subject than people living
in Europe or anywhere else. Today, there are many Muslims, possessing a
thorough knowledge of the Qur’an and natural sciences, who have recognized
the amazing similarity between the verses of the Qur’an dealing with
reproduction and modern scientific knowledge.
I shall always remember the comment of an eighteen-year-old Muslim, brought
up in Saudi Arabia, commenting on a reference to human reproduction as
described in the Qur’an. He pointed to the Qur’an and said, “This book provides
us with all the essential information on the subject. When I was at school, my
teachers used the Qur’an to explain how children were born. Your books on sexeducation
are a bit late on the scene!”
If I were to spend as long on all the details of reproduction contained in the
Qur’an, as the subject merits, this pamphlet would become a book. The detailed
linguistic and scientific explanations I have given in The Bible, The Qur’an and
Science are sufficient for the person who does not speak Arabic nor know much
about embryology to be able to understand the meaning of such verses in the
light of modern science in more depth.
It is especially in the field of embryology that a comparison between the beliefs
present at the time of the Qur’an’s revelation and modern scientific data, leaves
us amazed at the degree of agreement between the Qur’an’s statements and
modern scientific knowledge. Not to mention the total absence of any reference
in the Qur’an to the mistaken ideas that were prevalent around the world at the
time.
Fertilization
Let us now isolate, from all these verses, precise ideas concerning the
complexity of the semen and the fact that an infinitely small quantity is required to
ensure fertilization. In chapter al-Insaan the Qur’an states:
“Verily, I created humankind from a small quantity of mingled
fluids.” Qur’an, 76:2
The Arabic word nutfah has been translated as "small quantity”. It comes from
the verb meaning ‘to dribble, to trickle’ and is used to describe what remains in
the bottom of a bucket which has been emptied. The verse correctly implies that
fertilization is performed by only a very small volume of liquid.
On the other hand, mingled fluids ( amshaaj ) has been understood by early
commentators to refer to the mixture of male and female discharges. Modern
authors have corrected this view and note that the sperm is made up of various
components.
When the Qur’an talks of a fertilizing fluid composed of different components, it
also informs us that human progeny will be formed from something extracted
from this liquid. This is the meaning of the following verse in chapter as-Sajdah:
“Then He made [ man’s ] offspring from the essence of a
despised fluid.”
Qur’an, 32:8
The Arabic word translated by the term ‘essence’ is sulaalah which means
‘something extracted, the best part of a thing’. In whatever way it is translated, it
refers to part of a whole. Under normal conditions, only one single cell,
spermatozoon, out of over 50 million ejaculated by a man during sexual
intercourse will actually penetrate the ovule.
Implantation
Once the egg has been fertilized in the fallopian tube, it descends to lodge itself
inside the uterus. This process is called the ‘implantation of the egg’. Implantation
is a result of the development of villosities, which, like roots in the soil, draw
nourishment from the wall of the uterus and make the egg literally cling to the
womb. The process of implantation is appropriately described in several verses
by the word ‘alaq, which is also the title of the chapter in which one of the verses
appears:
“God fashioned humans from a clinging entity.” Qur’an, 96:2
I do not think there is any reasonable translation of the word ‘alaq other than to
use it in its original sense. It is a mistake to speak of a ‘blood clot’ here, which is
the term Professor Hamidullah uses in his translation. It is a derivative meaning
which is not as appropriate in this context.
Embryo
The evolution of the embryo inside the maternal uterus is only briefly described,
but the description is accurate, because the simple words referring to it
correspond exactly to fundamental stages in its growth. This is what we read in a
verse from the chapter al-Mu’minoon:
“I fashioned the clinging entity into a chewed lump of flesh
and I fashioned the chewed flesh into bones and I clothed the
bones with intact flesh.” Qur’an, 23:14
The term ‘chewed flesh’ (mudghah) corresponds exactly to the appearance of the
embryo at a certain stage in its development.
It is known that the bones develop inside this mass and that they are then
covered with muscle. This is the meaning of the term ‘intact flesh’ (lahm).
The embryo passes through a stage where some parts are in proportion and
others out of proportion with what is later to become the individual. This is the
obvious meaning of a verse in the chapter al-Hajj, which reads as follows:
“I fashioned (humans) a clinging entity, then into a lump of
flesh in proportion and out of proportion.” Qur’an, 22:5.
Next, we have a reference to the appearance of the senses and internal organs
in the chapter as-Sajdah:
“, and (God) gave you ears, eyes and hearts.” Qur’an, 32:9
Nothing here contradicts today’s data and, furthermore, none of the mistaken
ideas of the time have crept into the Qur’an. Throughout the Middle Ages there
were a variety of beliefs about human development based on myths and
speculations which continued for several centuries after the period. The most
fundamental stage in the history of embryology came in 1651 with Harvey’s
statement that “all life initially comes from an egg”. At that time, when science
had benefited greatly from the invention of the microscope, people were still
arguing about the respective roles of the egg and spermatozoon. Buffon, the
great naturalist, was one of those in favor of the egg theory.Bonnet, on the other
hand, supported the theory of ‘the ovaries of Eve’, which stated that Eve, the
mother of the human race, was-supposed to have had inside her the seeds of all
human beings packed together one inside the other.

Please if you have any questions; CONCERNING THE SCIENCTIFIC FINDINGS ONLY. Tell us if God wills the knowledgeable scholars in the house will defend it. Please there should be no topic saying things that are not polite and irrational. The purpose of the thread is just to educate one another and also attestate to the truth.

Thanks for your cooperation
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Please if you have any questions; CONCERNING THE SCIENCTIFIC FINDINGS ONLY. Tell us if God wills the knowledgeable scholars in the house will defend it. Please there should be no topic saying things that are not polite and irrational. The purpose of the thread is just to educate one another and also attestate to the truth.

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The Quran is direct from Allah, with many direct order or command such as 'say to them O muhammad.

What about the bible ? A reported letters which were collected into one book hence to err is human and thats why we see crazy and contradiction in the bible

Have guys bother to wonder why will God want to reveal what is already packaged in a book to mohammed as a new revelation.

@poster, ur first evidence that d koran predicted the mummy stated that allah said that the God of the israelite( THE JEWS) IS the only true God. Pls answer if the jewish religion and islam are totaly dsame. If not, it means d koran is disproving the Godship allah.
God bless u.

dadde:

Have guys bother to wonder why will God want to reveal what is already packaged in a book to mohammed as a new revelation.

Tell us part of such revelation and who was revealed to.

@poster, ur first evidence that d koran predicted the mummy stated that allah said that the God of the israelite( THE JEWS) IS the only true God. Pls answer if the jewish religion and islam are totaly dsame. If not, it means d koran is disproving the Godship allah.
God bless u.

You can actually sense it when you pronounce the two. Jewish religion and Islam. You and I can clarify when you present the Jewish doctrines and belief. if a jew could belief God is one, Muhammad and all other prophets, jesus, moses, abraham are all prophets, then he is a muslim. According to your own research and understanding, what is jewish religion?

littleb:

Tell us part of such revelation and who was revealed to.

the jews had already written about Abraham, Moses, Joshua, David, Solomon . . . even Jesus Christ for over 1000 yrs. those books had been transcribed into hebrew and greek . . .

Yet mohammad claimed the same plagiarised stories as "revelations"? Dis allah sef.

davidylan:

the jews had already written about Abraham, Moses, Joshua, David, Solomon . . . even Jesus Christ for over 1000 yrs. those books had been transcribed into hebrew and greek . . .

Asked yourself and in sincerity, in what they wrote, was it a revelation or a mere conjectures. If you claim or belief was a revelation, then to who?

Yet mohammad claimed the same plagiarised stories as "revelations"? Dis allah sef.

From what I presumed you think prophet Muhammad plagiarised, what about the dirty stories in there, since Muhammad was unlettered and doesn't understand hebrew or greek, he would have copy all. Abi! Mr david.

littleb:

Asked yourself and in sincerity, in what they wrote, was it a revelation or a mere conjectures. If you claim or belief was a revelation, then to who?

This is disgraceful nonsense. If what they wrote was mere conjecture then why did allah "reveal" the EXACT SAME STORIES TO MOHAMMAD? Why didnt he reveal facts instead of jewish conjecture?

why did allah concern himself with revealing stuff about the jews and NOTHING about the arabs, the kith and kin of mohammad?

littleb:

From what I presumed you think prophet Muhammad plagiarised, what about the dirty stories in there, since Muhammad was unlettered and doesn't understand hebrew or greek, he would have copy all. Abi! Mr david.

that's again dishonest nonsense . . . there were arabic copies of the bible widely in circulation and we know that there were jews living in arabia then. Infact wasnt mohammad married to a jewess?

You people are satanic in the way you lie so effortlessly.

@davidylan,

This is disgraceful nonsense. If what they wrote was mere conjecture then why did allah "reveal" the EXACT SAME STORIES TO MOHAMMAD? Why didnt he reveal facts instead of jewish conjecture?

I can sense some truth in there. So you believe it was a mere a conjectures, then some information must have preceeded thier conjections very much perfect the same way Quran is much perfect with no human dillution. I asked you maybe you will sincere, at least once, when you analyse what you claimed as divine  you and I know the truth, the same way you will percieved harry potters. Muslims are not denying some moral values of the bible, but in many instance when you ascribed it to be a revelation from God to his prophet, it became worthless. How will your great grandpa wrote a story about himself centuries after his demise. Secondly, God is not the author of confussion, thirdly, God does not reveal holy incest, thereby you couldn't see the exact stories you might think in Muhammad's holy book as:
1.NO third party information- just direct from GOD.for ex: SAY, ALLAH IS ONE,
2.NO Contradictions
3.NO corruption of God's prophets
Upon all your effort, you need nothing to lose, Islam call you for understanding!

why did allah concern himself with revealing stuff about the jews and NOTHING about the arabs, the kith and kin of mohammad?

Just read your question again and again and again, kneel down before your God with your hand stretched and you will find the answer. It is not all about delusion. Did you know Abraham was not a jew but father of faith who submitted himself in totality to God almighty.

that's again dishonest nonsense . . . there were arabic copies of the bible widely in circulation and we know that there were jews living in arabia then. Infact wasnt mohammad married to a jewess?

If you the proof, I will like to know. I have various versions of Islam and Muhammad histories. Allah refuted your claim:

"We know indeed that they say, 'It is a man that teaches him,' The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear." Qr.16:103

Muhammad had contacts with several Jews and christians as a teacher not a learner. And he met Waraqa bin Nufal not lasted but twice according to history. waraqa died three years later, then revelation continues for next 23 years.

Will you be more passsionate and fully acquaintance to decieved or generally for what Muslims are? You just need to accept the truth and serve the correct GOD. Islam is pure not with adulterated book, if Muhmmad learnt it from christians or jews to produce such a wonderful book. Will it not save you to think twice before you conclude.

You people are satanic in the way you lie so effortlessly

Will you stop firing crackers and lets discuss objectively. I push it to you, who is lying? Who wrote the bibles? Was it a revelation and to who? Muslims will like to emulate Muhammad according to Quran. Will you emulate biblical prophets?

Hmm, so how "scientific" is the quranic explanation of the function of stars?

Quran 67: 5  And We have from of old adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with stars, and We have made stars missiles to drive away Satans

   


And how scientific is this?

Quran 31: 29 Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night; That He has subjected the sun and moon (to His law), each running its course for a term (time) appointed.

Quran 21: 33 It is He who created The Night and Day, And the Sun and Moon; each of them Swim (float) along in its own course.


And is the earth flat?

Quran 15: 19 And the earth We have spread out like a carpet; set thereon Mountains firm and immovable;


And does the sun have a "resting place?

Quran 36: 38 And the sun runneth on unto[b] a resting place for him.[/b] That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.

littleb:

Just read your question again and again and again, kneel down before your God with your hand stretched and you will find the answer. It is not all about delusion. Did you know Abraham was not a jew but father of faith who submitted himself in totality to God almighty.

err Abraham as the "father of faith" is a biblical phrase that has nothing to do with islam. Faith, as espoused in the bible, is not an islamic doctrine. So just what was abraham (the islamic one) the father of?

I never once think of using biblical term to describe him. It is quite true your bible refer him father of faith, while we perceived him[b] a righteous man who submitted totally to God.[/b]
"Abraham WAS not A JEW , NOr a CHRISTAIN but he was a righteous man who had surrendered to ALLAH (Muslim) and he was not an idolaters." Qr3:67