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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by solomon111(m): 5:09pm On Jul 14, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE:

there's only one Apostolic church and it is the Catholic church, there is no such thing as apostolic Christianity .you see you people can't even create your own stuffs.

you use]our songs, our prayers, our rituals/ceremonies/ our holydays cool cool cool
The early christians were not of the catholic church,so i don't see how apostolic christianity is the same as catholic christianity.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by lemmings(m): 5:10pm On Jul 14, 2013
*unfollowing*

Stupidity,immaturity,childish sentiments and blasphemies that make my eyes hurt and heart ache is rife here.

I see muslims and atheists and agnostics laughing with glee at every single one of you.

I am most disappointed in my catholic brothers and sisters trading words here. And i am hurt with the way my pentecostal brothers and sisters show so much disdain. It is well.

Respect my church and i will bless you and your household.

i'm out.

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:10pm On Jul 14, 2013
solomon111: What is the difference between "crusades" and wars?
And where in the bible did God ask you to fight crusades for him?
If crusades were good,why didn't the apostles fight one?
please read David's story and the battle of Jericho
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 5:13pm On Jul 14, 2013
Kaycee7: LORD, make me an instrument of YOUR peace,
Where there is hatred let me sow love,
Where there is injury let me sow pardon,
Where there is doubt let me sow faith.
It is in giving that we recieve,
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
It is in dying that we are born, that we are born to eternal life.
-St. Francis of Asisi
My fellow catholics, cool down. No insults please. Rather do good to those who hurt you and pray for those who persecute you.
I would advise closure of this thread before some people heap more curses on themselves. While we are yet to prove that the Blessed Virgin should be honored, please do not call the Mother of God helpless and powerless. If you can't honor her, please I beg of you "Do not insult her" None of us here would like our mothers insulted talk less of GOD who is Love HIMSELF.
Please do not join the serpent to bite her heel.
My Brothers and Sisters, with me:
We fly to your patronage, Oh Holy Mother of God, despise not our prayers and necessities but deliver us from all evil, Oh Ever Blessed Virgin Mary. Amen
virgin marys should deliver you from evil? I think i have every right to call you an insane entity :-/
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Kaycee7(m): 5:15pm On Jul 14, 2013
Iyfe Namikaze: virgin marys should deliver you from evil? I think i have every right to call you an insane entity :-/
Yes. Please make sure to insult me and my brethren, not Her.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Kayceefcb(m): 5:15pm On Jul 14, 2013
HumbledbYGrace: following
ur also forgetting dat in d bible, when d angel Gabriel came 2 announce 2 mary dat she wud be d moda of d saviour, that he greeted her wif d prayer we say 2 Mary, we dnt pray 2 Mary, we only give her, her honour read Luke 1: 26-38
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:16pm On Jul 14, 2013
Aabee:
and pls pray 4 usef dat u wake up 4rm hibernation. And wen u do, read about genetics b4 u disgrace dis country outside. Pls go back 2 Kg class, learn Crk and biology b4 comin 2 comment ön nairaland again.
As 4 camerounpride and greed_pie, shut d Bleep up and let dose penticostals who died wit Jesus on d cross continue blabbing.
Just like stephen, pray dat God 4gv dem 4 judging

Obviously you need to go back to sitting under that tree in your village where you were taught with a chalk and board. So you do not know that d genetic make-up of a child comes from the father? let me simplify it for you. The father determines the sex of a child and never the mother.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:16pm On Jul 14, 2013
solomon111: The early christians were not of the catholic church,so i don't see how apostolic christianity is the same as catholic christianity.
yes they were.
Matthew 16:18

Jesus himself created the Catholic church he made it official with Matthew 16:18 Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.

But the truth is the Catholic church comes with the birth of Jesus Christ Jesus was Catholic (actually the first )
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 5:16pm On Jul 14, 2013
Kaycee7: Yes. Please make sure to insult me and my brethren, not Her.
listen good, mary is to be honored, but to ask her to deliver you from sin is an insult to God and Christ.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 5:20pm On Jul 14, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: yes they were.
Matthew 16:18

Jesus himself created the Catholic church he made it official with Matthew 16:18 Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.

But the truth is the Catholic church comes with the birth of Jesus Christ Jesus was Catholic (actually the first )
Did He say he will build the catholics? The church which peter founded never prayed to mary to intercede on their behalves.
Christ only mentioned ''church'' and we all are the church he was talking about. Doctrine was man made
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Kaycee7(m): 5:21pm On Jul 14, 2013
Iyfe Namikaze:
listen good, mary is to be honored, but to ask her to deliver you from sin is an insult to God and Christ.
I said "evil" not "sin". Only GOD can deliver us from sin.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Kaycee7(m): 5:22pm On Jul 14, 2013
Iyfe Namikaze:
Did He say he will build the catholics? The church which peter founded never prayed to mary to intercede on their behalves.
Christ only mentioned ''church'' and we all are the church he was talking about. Doctrine was man made
Are you implying Peter founded another church?
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:23pm On Jul 14, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: yes they were.
Matthew 16:18

Jesus himself created the Catholic church he made it official with Matthew 16:18 Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.

But the truth is the Catholic church comes with the birth of Jesus Christ Jesus was Catholic (actually the first )


Absurdity of another level!! Do you even know the meaning of the word Catholic? Catholic means "in general or universal"

Jesus is the head of the Church and the bible never hinted at the word Catholic as you infer anywhere in its pages. Originally it was known as the Roman Catholic Church which clearly depicts those who crucified christ as you all are still doing today by making the doctrine of Christ of non effect by denying the power thereof.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by okpurukata(f): 5:23pm On Jul 14, 2013
I will humbly appeal to all catholics at this point stop responding.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 5:26pm On Jul 14, 2013
Kaycee7: I said "evil" not "sin". Only GOD can deliver us from sin.
Our Father who art in heaven,: hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done: on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day,our daily bread... Forgive us our trespasses as we 4give those who trespass against us, and DELIVER US FROM EVIL..... It is still God who can only deliver you from evil, not mary, DO NOT INSULT GOD

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Kaycee7(m): 5:26pm On Jul 14, 2013
okpurukata: I will humbly appeal to all catholics at this point stop responding.
We can't. It is our duty to defend our faith.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Kaycee7(m): 5:27pm On Jul 14, 2013
Iyfe Namikaze:
Our Father who art in heaven,: hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done: on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day,our daily bread... Forgive us our trespasses as we 4give those who trespass against us, and DELIVER US FROM EVIL..... It is still God who can only deliver you from evil, not mary, DO NOT INSULT GOD
What is evil?
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:27pm On Jul 14, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: yes they were.
Matthew 16:18

Jesus himself created the Catholic church he made it official with Matthew 16:18 Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.

But the truth is the Catholic church comes with the birth of Jesus Christ Jesus was Catholic (actually the first )


If Jesus was the first Catholic i suppose the pope was the second after Christ? Confusion is eating away at the little bit of intelligence you have left.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Samstandtall(m): 5:27pm On Jul 14, 2013
You will find answer on the judgment day. Leave things of the Holy Spirit or be cursed.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:29pm On Jul 14, 2013
Something about this Catholicism is special. Don't you for once ask yourself the reason for numerous criticism against the Church.

Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:29pm On Jul 14, 2013
Ghostface_killa: Actually nothing happens IN JESUS NAME as well......smh

God bless U.. Jesus is a prophet and he's human. He's not Lord or God. If u like,crawl in Jesus name. Absolutely nothing happens..
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 5:31pm On Jul 14, 2013
Kaycee7: What is evil?
Evil is profound immorality. In certain religious contexts
evil has been described as a supernatural force.
Definitions of evil vary, as does the analysis of its root
motives and causes. However elements that are
commonly associated with evil involve unbalanced
behavior involving expediency, selfishness, ignorance, or
neglect.
In cultures with Manichaean and Abrahamic religious
influence, evil is usually perceived as the dualistic
antagonistic opposite of good, in which good should prevail
and evil should be defeated.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by analar(f): 5:33pm On Jul 14, 2013
anitank: You do nothing. We just pray to her to intercede on our behalf
,.....
God neva gave her the Right to do that for the saints jhn19:26-27......because u immortalized her in ur vain religion thats y u do that!.....u commit Sin of Unrighteousness...God does nt permit us to worship His Creations...Only HIM Alone you shuld pray to!Rom 1:25...Rmba christ&the Father are ONE! Jhn10:30
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:37pm On Jul 14, 2013
"Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols" —Psalm 97:7


Matthew 6:7 and 15:8-9, “But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. ... This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.”


The Roman Catholic Church today is widely regarded as a Christian Church. The truth is that it is a pagan counterfeit of Christianity and is full of blasphemous doctrines that bars its victims from eternal salvation. Jesus said that if you are a Christian you will avoid the teachings of false prophets.

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by buntubuntu: 5:39pm On Jul 14, 2013
gree-die:


lol... pagan madness? and you know this because?.. der u go, interpreting the bible according to your level of ignorance...

The Gospel of St. John relates two significant accounts which relate to Mary — the wedding feast of Cana and the Crucifixion. Of the first account we read:
“There was a marriage in Cana of Galilee, and the Mother of Jesus was there. And Jesus also was invited, and His disciples, to the marriage. And the wine failing, the Mother of Jesus said to Him, ‘They have no wine.’ And Jesus said to her, ‘Woman, what is it to Me and to thee? My hour is not yet come.’ His Mother said to the waiters, ‘Whatsoever He shall say to you, do ye’” (John 2:1-5).
Jesus Christ then proceeded to work His first public miracle at His Mother’s request. Everything related in the Gospels is inspired by God, and there is a reason for it. Does not this narrative of the wedding feast manifest the intercessory power of Mary with Jesus Christ, her Divine Son?
In the second account, also take from the Gospel of St. John, we read:
“There stood by the Cross of Jesus His Mother... When Jesus therefore had seen His Mother and the disciple standing whom He loved, He saith to His Mother: ‘Woman, behold thy son...’” (John 19:25-27).
Just as Eve cooperated with Adam in the Fall of mankind, the Blessed Virgin Mary cooperated with Jesus Christ in our redemption. She “stood by the Cross of Jesus.” What anguish, what sorrow did the Mother of Jesus experience at the foot of the Cross as she witnessed the sufferings and death of her Divine Son!
In both accounts, Jesus addressed Mary by the term woman. In Hebrew the word used by Jesus was a term which would be addressed to a queen or a woman of high rank. It was a term of great respect.
But why did Jesus Christ address His Mother by the term woman at these two significant moments in His life — at His first public miracle, and at His Crucifixion on the Cross?
Our Divine Lord wanted to clearly indicate that His Mother was the Woman spoken of in the Book of Genesis:
“I will put enmities between thee (Satan) and the Woman, between thy seed and her seed, and she shall crush thy head.”

catholics do not, as Protestants falsely believe, worship the Blessed Virgin Mary. We honor her who was so intimately connected with Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity. Yes, there is only one Mediator with the Father — Jesus Christ. Only the God-Man Jesus Christ could have redeemed mankind. Nevertheless, we pray to Mary that she may intercede for us with her Divine Son. How often we request the assistance of prayers from our fellow men — how much more powerful are the prayers and intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary! In the Old Testament, we read how Moses prayed with arms outstretched and interceded with God to procure the victory of the Israelites over their enemies in a crucial battle. As long as he prayed, they were victorious. When he ceased his prayers, the Israelites began to lose. Because of this, it was necessary for two men to hold up Moses’ arms in prayer until the battle was won. Also, we read in the Old Testament how Josue prayed to God to have the day prolonged in order to win another crucial battle. If Moses and Josue could have such intercession before God, how much more powerful are the prayers of the Blessed Virgin Mary!
YOU HAVE SAID IT ALL. IT ONLY TAKES A SPIRITUALLY ENLIGHTENED MIND TO INTERPRETE CORRECTLY & ACCEPT THE TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL MESSAGE.
THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PROTESTING SINCE THE TIME OF MARTIN LUTHER WILL ALWAYS BE TRUE TO THEIR NAME-PROTESTANTS. THEY INTERPRETE THE BIBLE TO SUIT THEIR WIMS & CAPRICES AND FROM THE ABUNDANCE OF THEIR IGNORANCE THEY KEEP DISHING OUT ARRANT NONSENCE & FALSEHOOD.
WHAT IRKS ME MOST IS THEIR AUDACITY IN FALSEHOOD & IGNORANCE.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:40pm On Jul 14, 2013
E.O.D

CrazyMan:
Mary was just the earthly vessel God use in bringing Jesus into this world.

She's human like you and I...so it would look silly to worship her.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Kayceefcb(m): 5:41pm On Jul 14, 2013
Lemme advice u protestants, d moment u guys stop criticizing catholic beliefs nd images, den u guys will be better christians, u guys r so deep in old testament beliefs dat nothing else touches u guys, gather all ur pastors 2geda nd let dem compete against each oda on wich of dem can quote d bible well b4 u mere listeners start asking questions nd criticizing. Just leave d caths nd our beliefs, if we honour mary nd we wud go 2 hell den it's our cross we'll manage it
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:43pm On Jul 14, 2013
listen bro, mary has no such contact with God...and she cannot change Gods mind or help God in his work.pls Note Mary is not Gods mother because God Existed even when the world was lifeless...Church should be reformed....
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:44pm On Jul 14, 2013
The truth is that there no place, I repeat NEVER ANY place in the scriptures where JESUS referred to mary as HIS mother.

PLEASE, MY CATHOLIC FRIENDS WHY DID CHRIST ALWAYS ADDRESSES TO MARY AS 'WOMAN'

(3) When the wine was gine, JESUS' mother said to Him, "They have no more wine."
(4) "Dear WOMAN, why do you involve me? JESUS replied. "My time time has not yet come."
(John 2:3-4)

Some of you that are making analogy with your mothers, will you address your mother as woman when she brings a request to you? If JESUS had said "Dear mother", it would have been a different case.

Secondly in John 19:26,
When JESUS saw his mother there, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, he said to His mother, "Dear WOMAN, here is your son,"

Catholics, answer me!!!! Will you addresses your beloved mother as WOMAN!!!!!

HE never addressed her as mother to avoid what you catholics are doing now!!!!!

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Kaycee7(m): 5:47pm On Jul 14, 2013
Iyfe Namikaze: Evil is profound immorality. In certain religious contexts
evil has been described as a supernatural force.
Definitions of evil vary, as does the analysis of its root
motives and causes. However elements that are
commonly associated with evil involve unbalanced
behavior involving expediency, selfishness, ignorance, or
neglect.
In cultures with Manichaean and Abrahamic religious
influence, evil is usually perceived as the dualistic
antagonistic opposite of good, in which good should prevail
and evil should be defeated.
The Blessed Virgin has GOD'S ear. Can't she ask GOD to deliver us from evil?
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by ocelot2006(m): 5:48pm On Jul 14, 2013
frosbel:

So why do you bow down before her statues ?


We bow or kneel in front of the altar with the crucifix/cross place as our reference to God almighty and His One and Only Son, Jesus Christ. If any catholic actually bows before the statue of Mary, then is more out of respect. Afterall, she gave birth to our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. I also bow to the statue of fallen soldiers as a sign of respect. But it sure as hell doesn't mean I worship them.

Seriously, some of you protestant from jet flying churches who feel they kniw more about the Catholic than us Catholics need to stop spewing TRASH!
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:49pm On Jul 14, 2013
ocelot2006:

We bow or kneel in front of the altar with the crucifix/cross place as our reference to God almighty and His One and Only Son, Jesus Christ. If any catholic actually bows before the statue of Mary, then is more out of respect. Afterall, she gave birth to our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. I also bow to the statue of fallen soldiers as a sign of respect. But it sure as hell doesn't mean I worship them.

Seriously, some of you protestant from jet flying churches who feel they kniw more about the Catholic than us Catholics need to stop spewing TRASH!


What do you call this :






and what's the difference with this :


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or this :

[img]http://defendingcontending.files./2012/02/asian-statue-worship.jpg[/img]

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