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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by vanstanzy(m): 5:40pm On Mar 22, 2013
Bluetooth, dayokanu, maclatunji and other Igbo haterz, before i even make any comment, take this 1 1st and cool off... SHUT THE HELL UP!

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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by oilsuop: 5:43pm On Mar 22, 2013
ogochukwunasa1:
speak for urself eediot.
Sad day for u n ur family, not for me.
I hate dat man, he is a bigot!!!
but is sad that my yoruba people dont hate him we adore him go to facebook and see most comments are yorubas sad
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by Nobody: 5:48pm On Mar 22, 2013
ogochukwunasa1:
speak for urself eediot.
Sad day for u n ur family, not for me.
I hate dat man, he is a bigot!!!
I jst hope that when u die, u can see dis much say nice things about u!! Your opinion matters not!
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by Rhapsody1(f): 5:49pm On Mar 22, 2013
ogochukwunasa1:
speak for urself eediot.
Sad day for u n ur family, not for me.
I hate dat man, he is a bigot!!!
You mean you expended and are still spending evergy hating someone who did not even know someone like you existed? Energy that should have been channeled into something more constructive and positive? And peeps wonder why there are many seemingly young people with wonderful sickness.

Goodnight Sir. I pray you are resting with the Lord. I read THINGS FALL APART when I was 8. Mum insisted. And I had to summarize it, pick out words I didn't know, look them up in the dictionary. I was in primary 4 then. I have been reading since then. You sure will be remembered.
Goodnight!

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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by beblessed(f): 5:55pm On Mar 22, 2013
For people who dnt know him, he was a very good writer. Get a copy of things fall apart or arrow of the Gods then you will understand. It is a book frm the 60's-90's that helped the younger generations to understand our past. Have you read a book called 'roots'? His books showed us our 'roots'. Pete edochie, late justus esiri etc came to limelight when they acted things fall apart in the 80's. Get copies of those books and you will understand our 'roots'. HATERS, plz allow us to enjoy memories of this uncompromising/selfless Nigerian and all will be well with you! Plz!

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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by KINGwax(m): 5:56pm On Mar 22, 2013
kurga: He was a great man. For all he did that is the only thing that comes to your mind. There's a way you critisize people, even more so the dead especially in public. How old are you?
I was old enuff to remember wot I ate wen I attended ur naming ceremony!

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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by Donchyke39(m): 6:02pm On Mar 22, 2013
alaoeri: Pls save my ignorance who's Achebe & wetin he do for Nigeria?
are you a learner?
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by KINGwax(m): 6:02pm On Mar 22, 2013
Mr. Globe:

This thread is about a legend Achebe and not ex convict awolowo. Send your post to the appropraiate thread
we knw he was special!
'Special' is d word used for people who are handicapped!
Hope he can will his chair to you!

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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by 50calibre(m): 6:29pm On Mar 22, 2013
ogochukwunasa1:
speak for urself eediot.
Sad day for u n ur family, not for me.
I hate dat man, he is a bigot!!!

Really! Was that really called for? What made him a bigot? You are uncultured and ignorant, that's the reason you can't acknowledge true genius when you see one. I hope you make something good out of your life.

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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by EkoIle1: 6:33pm On Mar 22, 2013
We also congratulate ashebe for winning the NL hall of shame contest.

What a remarkable achievement.

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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by AndreUweh(m): 7:21pm On Mar 22, 2013
Eko Ile: We also congratulate ashebe for winning the NL hall of shame contest.

What a remarkable achievement.
Get a life shameless bigot
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by ckkris: 7:22pm On Mar 22, 2013
dayokanu: He renewed tribalism in Nigeria from his most recent book there was a country

Please Sir,
Was TRIBALISM ever dead in Nigeria since Awolowo introduced it in the 1950's, when Awolowo prevented Azikiwe from becoming Premier of Western Nigeria, after a free and fair election that returned a majority of NCNC, over Awo's minority AG?
Since 1965, when Awolowo's Action Group insisted that a Yoruba must be the Vice-Chancellor of UNILAG, instead of Prof Eni Njoku who was next in line of succession to the retiring European VC , have subsequent VC's not always been chosen on TRIBAL considerations?
Now its indigene vs non-indigene; indigenes vs settlers.
Awo's Legacy Rules!

TRIBALISM CONTINUA !

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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by ckkris: 7:37pm On Mar 22, 2013
PHIPEX: Am speechless...can we ever find an equal replacement? May God grant you rest from the battles of life cos even the British couldn't hold you down at the age of 28. I pledge to strive to make an impact in the world akin to yours before I depart. Adieu to the Icon!! cry cry

To the Poster above, tell me you are Okey Ndibe. My pleasant regards.

Not just Okey Ndibe, Ngozi Chimamanda Adichie, Amaka Igwe, and millions of others all over the world, President Barack Obama also quoted Achebe in AUDACITY OF HOPE.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by PHIPEX(m): 7:44pm On Mar 22, 2013
Yoruba_Omoge: He internationalized TRIBALISM
You can as well explain how a man who was benevolent enough and allowed his daughter to be married by a Yoruba man is being accused of being a tribalist by ignorant minds like you. I wonder if your local govt knows about your existence let alone the world. Better focus on the thread and wrest yourself from this tribalistic instinct.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by ckkris: 7:45pm On Mar 22, 2013
ilugunboy: Can the admin of this forum move this thrash to the literature and the book section.....

what has this got to do with politics section?
angry


This is not a national loss..this is a lost to his tribesmen....

Nairaland is also practically a TRIBAL WEBSITE.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by ckkris: 7:54pm On Mar 22, 2013
Yoruba_Omoge: He internationalized TRIBALISM

Are you now afraid of TRIBALISM, after benefiting from it?
You go hear nwii.

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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by ckkris: 7:59pm On Mar 22, 2013
nagoma: " ...the drums beat, the flutes sang , the spectators held their breath. Amalinze was a wily craftsman but Okonkwo was as slippery as a fish in water. Every nerve and every muscle stood out on their arms and on their backs and on their thighs.and one almost heard them stretch to breaking point.in the end Okonkwo threw the cat ........"

Adios Prof.

Written at age 24.
W O N D E R M E N T.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by stantob(m): 8:22pm On Mar 22, 2013
ONYE NNA:I was not opporturned to meet you in person.But when the roll is called up yonder,we shall meet.Rest in peace a GREAT MAN.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by Mamacita007(f): 8:35pm On Mar 22, 2013
RIP CHINUA ACHEBE
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by OdenigboAroli1: 8:48pm On Mar 22, 2013
dayokanu: He renewed tribalism in Nigeria from his most recent book there was a country

You have always been a tribal bigot many years before Achebe wrote that book in 2012. Find another person to blame.

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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by Arsenate(m): 9:07pm On Mar 22, 2013
Tribalists and bigots are the worst set of humans. No respect for their likes...twaaaa
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by Duru1(m): 9:10pm On Mar 22, 2013
Achebe was simply an institution.

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Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by Nobody: 9:13pm On Mar 22, 2013
Duru1: Achebe was simply as institution.

what sort of Igbotic English is this?....am sure Asebe will not be proud of you..
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by Duru1(m): 9:21pm On Mar 22, 2013
ilugunboy:

what sort of Igbotic English is this?....am sure Asebe will not be proud of you..


I am wondering if you are capable of crossing a carriageway. It seems you lost considerable sense of perception due to bigotry.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by bornosheikh: 9:33pm On Mar 22, 2013
He internationalized TRIBALISM

Like ur Mama institutionalised bestiality!

It is a time to laud a mighty son of Nigeria, not to engage in revisionism. If you cannot place verbal laurels on his head, let your fingers catch frostbite.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by Nobody: 9:37pm On Mar 22, 2013
OMG HE IS DEAD ?? SINCE WHEN ? IM ONLY KNOWING NOW ! RIP cry cry cry cry
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by tpia5: 9:45pm On Mar 22, 2013
interview with achebe:





Chinua Achebe was born in Eastern Nigeria in 1930. He went to the local public schools and was among the first students to graduate from the University of Ibadan. After graduation, he worked for the Nigerian Broadcasting Corporation as a radio producer and Director of External Broadcasting, and it was during this period that he began his writing career.

He is the author, coauthor, or editor of some seventeen books, among them five novels: Things Fall Apart, 1958; No Longer at Ease, 1960; Arrow of God, 1964; A Man of the People, 1966; and Anthills of the Savannah, 1987. He is the editor of several anthologies, including the essay collections Morning Yet on Creation Day and Hopes and Impediments, and the collection of poetry Beware Soul Brother. He is the editor of the magazine Okike and founding editor of the Heinemann series on African literature, a list that now has more than three hundred titles. He is often called the father of modern African literature. He is the recipient, at last count, of some twenty-five honorary doctorates from universities throughout the world and is currently the Charles P. Stevenson Jr. Professor of English at Bard College.






for those who have never heard of the Heinemann series on African literature, if i have time i may post something about it, or you can google.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by tpia5: 9:47pm On Mar 22, 2013
INTERVIEWER

You were among the first graduates of the great University of Ibadan. What was it like in the early years of that university, and what did you study there? Has it stuck with you in your writing?

ACHEBE

Ibadan was, in retrospect, a great institution. In a way, it revealed the paradox of the colonial situation, because this university college was founded towards the end of British colonial rule in Nigeria. If they did any good things, Ibadan was one of them. It began as a college of London University, because under the British, you don’t rush into doing any of those things like universities just like that. You start off as an appendage of somebody else. You go through a period of tutelage. We were the University College of Ibadan of London. So I took a degree from London University. That was the way it was organized in those days. One of the signs of independence, when it came, was for Ibadan to become a full-fledged university.


I began with science, then English, history, and religion. I found these subjects exciting and very useful. Studying religion was new to me and interesting because it wasn’t only Christian theology; we also studied West African religions. My teacher there, Dr. Parrinder, now an emeritus professor of London University, was a pioneer in the area. He had done extensive research in West Africa, in Dahomey. For the first time, I was able to see the systems—including my own—compared and placed side by side, which was really exciting. I also encountered a professor, James Welch, in that department, an extraordinary man, who had been chaplain to King George VI, chaplain to the BBC, and all kinds of high powered things before he came to us. He was a very eloquent preacher. On one occasion, he said to me, We may not be able to teach you what you need or what you want. We can only teach you what we know. I thought that was wonderful. That was really the best education I had. I didn’t learn anything there that I really needed, except this kind of attitude. I have had to go out on my own. The English department was a very good example of what I mean. The people there would have laughed at the idea that any of us would become a writer. That didn’t really cross their minds. I remember on one occasion a departmental prize was offered. They put up a notice—write a short story over the long vacation for the departmental prize. I’d never written a short story before, but when I got home, I thought, Well, why not. So I wrote one and submitted it. Months passed; then finally one day there was a notice on the board announcing the result. It said that no prize was awarded because no entry was up to the standard. They named me, said that my story deserved mention. Ibadan in those days was not a dance you danced with snuff in one palm. It was a dance you danced with all your body. So when Ibadan said you deserved mention, that was very high praise.



went to the lecturer who had organized the prize and said, You said my story wasn’t really good enough but it was interesting. Now what was wrong with it? She said, Well, it’s the form. It’s the wrong form. So I said, Ah, can you tell me about this? She said, Yes, but not now. I’m going to play tennis; we’ll talk about it. Remind me later, and I’ll tell you. This went on for a whole term. Every day when I saw her, I’d say, Can we talk about form? She’d say, No, not now. We’ll talk about it later. Then at the very end she saw me and said, You know, I looked at your story again and actually there’s nothing wrong with it. So that was it! That was all I learned from the English department about writing short stories. You really have to go out on your own and do it.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by tpia5: 9:48pm On Mar 22, 2013
INTERVIEWER

The titles of your first two books—Things Fall Apart and No Longer at Ease—are from modern Irish and American poets. Other black writers—I’m thinking particularly of Paule Marshall—borrow from Yeats. I wonder if Yeats and Eliot are among your favorite poets.



ACHEBE

They are. Actually, I wouldn’t make too much of that. I was showing off more than anything else. As I told you, I took a general degree, with English as part of it, and you had to show some evidence of that. But I liked Yeats! That wild Irishman. I really loved his love of language, his flow. His chaotic ideas seemed to me just the right thing for a poet. Passion! He was always on the right side. He may be wrongheaded, but his heart was always on the right side. He wrote beautiful poetry. It had the same kind of magic about it that I mentioned the wizard had for me. I used to make up lines with anything that came into my head, anything that sounded interesting. So Yeats was that kind of person for me. It was only later I discovered his theory of circles or cycles of civilization. I wasn’t thinking of that at all when it came time to find a title. That phrase “things fall apart” seemed to me just right and appropriate.

T. S. Eliot was quite different. I had to study him at Ibadan. He had a kind of priestly erudition—eloquence, but of a different kind. Scholarly to a fault. But I think the poem from which I took the title of No Longer at Ease, the one about the three magi, is one of the great poems in the English language. These people who went and then came back to their countries were “no longer at ease” . . . I think that that is great—the use of simple language, even when things talked about are profound, very moving, very poignant. So that’s really all there is to it. But you’ll notice that after those first two titles I didn’t do it anymore.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by tpia5: 9:49pm On Mar 22, 2013
INTERVIEWER

I once heard your English publisher, Alan Hill, talk about how you sent the manuscript of Things Fall Apart to him.


ACHEBE

That was a long story. The first part of it was how the manuscript was nearly lost. In 1957 I was given a scholarship to go to London and study for some months at the BBC. I had a draft of Things Fall Apart with me, so I took it along to finish it. When I got to the BBC, one of my friends—there were two of us from Nigeria—said, Why don’t you show this to Mr. Phelps? Gilbert Phelps, one of the instructors of the BBC school, was a novelist. I said, What? No! This went on for some time. Eventually I was pushed to do it and I took the manuscript and handed it to Mr. Phelps. He said, Well . . . all right, the way I would today if anyone brought me a manuscript. He was not really enthusiastic. Why should he be? He took it anyway, very politely. He was the first person, outside of myself, to say, I think this is interesting. In fact, he felt so strongly that one Saturday he was compelled to look for me and tell me. I had traveled out of London; he found out where I was, phoned the hotel, and asked me to call him back. When I was given this message, I was completely floored. I said, Maybe he doesn’t like it. But then why would he call me if he doesn’t like it. So it must be he likes it. Anyway, I was very excited. When I got back to London, he said, This is wonderful. Do you want me to show it to my publishers? I said, Yes, but not yet, because I had decided that the form wasn’t right. Attempting to do a saga of three families, I was covering too much ground in this first draft. So I realized that I needed to do something drastic, really give it more body. So I said to Mr. Phelps, OK, I am very grateful but I’d like to take this back to Nigeria and look at it again. Which is what I did.

When I was in England, I had seen advertisements about typing agencies; I had learned that if you really want to make a good impression, you should have your manuscript well typed. So, foolishly, from Nigeria I parceled my manuscript—handwritten, by the way, and the only copy in the whole world—wrapped it up and posted it to this typing agency that advertised in the Spectator. They wrote back and said, Thank you for your manuscript. We’ll charge thirty-two pounds. That was what they wanted for two copies and which they had to receive before they started. So I sent thirty-two pounds in British postal order to these people and then I heard no more. Weeks passed, and months. I wrote and wrote and wrote. No answer. Not a word. I was getting thinner and thinner and thinner. Finally, I was very lucky. My boss at the broadcasting house was going home to London on leave. A very stubborn Englishwoman. I told her about this. She said, Give me their name and address. When she got to London she went there! She said, What’s this nonsense? They must have been shocked, because I think their notion was that a manuscript sent from Africa—well, there’s really nobody to follow it up. The British don’t normally behave like that. It’s not done, you see. But something from Africa was treated differently. So when this woman, Mrs. Beattie, turned up in their office and said, What’s going on? they were confused. They said, The manuscript was sent but customs returned it. Mrs. Beattie said, Can I see your dispatch book? They had no dispatch book. So she said, Well, send this thing, typed up, back to him in the next week, or otherwise you’ll hear about it. So soon after that, I received the typed manuscript of Things Fall Apart. One copy, not two. No letter at all to say what happened. My publisher, Alan Hill, rather believed that the thing was simply neglected, left in a corner gathering dust. That’s not what happened. These people did not want to return it to me and had no intention of doing so. Anyway, when I got it I sent it back up to Heinemann. They had never seen an African novel. They didn’t know what to do with it. Someone told them, Oh, there’s a professor of economics at London School of Economics and Political Science who just came back from those places. He might be able to advise you. Fortunately, Don Macrae was a very literate professor, a wonderful man. I got to know him later. He wrote what they said was the shortest report they ever had on any novel—seven words: “The best first novel since the war.” So that’s how I got launched.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by tpia5: 9:49pm On Mar 22, 2013
INTERVIEWER

Heinemann was also perplexed as to how many copies should be printed . . .



ACHEBE

Oh yes. They printed very, very few. It was a risk. Not something they’d ever done before. They had no idea if anybody would want to read it. It went out of print very quickly. It would have stayed that way if Alan Hill hadn’t decided that he was going to gamble even more and launch a paperback edition of this book. Other publishers thought it was mad, that this was crazy. But that was how the African Writers Series came in to existence. In the end, Alan Hill was made a Commander of the British Empire for bringing into existence a body of literature they said was among the biggest developments in British literature of this century. So it was a very small beginning, but it caught fire.

INTERVIEWER

You have said that you wrote Things Fall Apart as a response to Joyce Cary’s Mr. Johnson.

ACHEBE

I wish I hadn’t said that.

INTERVIEWER

You made Mr. Johnson famous! But your most trenchant essay on the colonial novel is your subsequent essay on Conrad’s Heart of Darkness. I wonder what you think is the image of Africa today in the Western mind.

ACHEBE

I think it’s changed a bit. But not very much in its essentials. When I think of the standing, the importance and the erudition of all these people who see nothing about racism in Heart of Darkness, I’m convinced that we must really be living in different worlds. Anyway, if you don’t like someone’s story, you write your own. If you don’t like what somebody says, you say what it is you don’t like. Some people imagine that what I mean is, Don’t read Conrad. Good heavens, no! I teach Conrad. I teach Heart of Darkness. I have a course on Heart of Darkness in which what I’m saying is, Look at the way this man handles Africans. Do you recognize humanity there? People will tell you he was opposed to imperialism. But it’s not enough to say, I’m opposed to imperialism. Or, I’m opposed to these people—these poor people—being treated like this. Especially since he goes on straight away to call them “dogs standing on their hind legs.” That kind of thing. Animal imagery throughout. He didn’t see anything wrong with it. So we must live in different worlds. Until these two worlds come together we will have a lot of trouble.
Re: Celebrating Chinua Achebe's Achievements by tpia5: 9:50pm On Mar 22, 2013
INTERVIEWER

Have you ever taught creative writing?

ACHEBE

No.

INTERVIEWER

Why not?

ACHEBE

Well, I don’t know how it’s done. I mean it. I really don’t know. The only thing I can say for it is that it provides work for writers. Don’t laugh! It’s very important. I think it’s very important for writers who need something else to do, especially in these precarious times. Many writers can’t make a living. So to be able to teach how to write is valuable to them. But I don’t really know about its value to the student. I don’t mean it’s useless. But I wouldn’t have wanted anyone to teach me how to write. That’s my own taste. I prefer to stumble on it. I prefer to go on trying all kinds of things, not to be told, This is the way it is done. Incidentally, there’s a story I like about a very distinguished writer today, who shall remain nameless, who had been taught creative writing in his younger days. The old man who taught him was reflecting about him one day: I remember his work was so good that I said to him, Don’t stop writing, never stop writing. I wish I’d never told him that. So I don’t know. I teach literature. That’s easy for me. Take someone else’s work and talk about it.

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