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Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by gameboy727(m): 3:21pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:

If the black stone is just a meteorite with no significance to muslims/Islam - why did they build the Kaaba to house it, and why do muslims die to kiss it Who houses a meteorite in their place of worship and kiss it?? grin Perhaps, Russians should take a cue from Meccans and house their meteorites somewhere and start kissing them as well, no?? undecided undecided

And what was Kaaba before it was destroyed and turned into a Mosque?? Kaaba was a shrine for pagan deities of the Arabs!!! So why didn't Muslims build their Mosque elsewhere?? Why there and why keep the black stone there




You will never hear Christians talk about this because they've got selective amnesia like indoctrinated Muslims... There's no freaking Israel or Israelites - everything was based on allegories and stories... That's like alluding to Okonkwo from "Things Fall Apart" as someone who actually existed on this planet...

I reiterate: go read Galatians 4 to know if Abraham, Hagar, Hannah, Ishmael, and Isaac walked this planet or not.. Apostle Paul already answered your question there when he was speaking to the Galatians...

Dude, I totally disagree with you on this.
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by iwanchop(m): 3:21pm On Mar 26, 2013
Bobandgreat: Soyinka, u r an etheist. No need to b diplomatic here. Boko Haram have indepth knowledge of Islam thats y they kill and maim. Those muslims who r not violent yet have not attained that level of understanding of the Koran. They are like a dormant volcano, at the right chemical and physical condition it will explode.

Your comment shows you have no knowledge of the holy quran. Let me tell you what you don't want to hear-Boko Haram guys are not muslims and I will provide proofs
Note that anyone who goes against the teachings of the quran is not a Muslim
1.Boko Haram says GEJ must become a Muslim but the Quran says

“Let there be no
compulsion in religion" (Qur'an 2:256)
“Say, ‘The truth is from Your Lord.’ Let
him who will, believe, and let him who
will, reject it” (Qur'an 18:29).
2.Boko Haram kills innocent citizens but the Quran says
"whoever slays a soul, unless it be
for manslaughter or for mischief in
the land, it is as though he slew all
men; and whoever keeps it alive, it
is as though he kept alive all
men" (al-Maeda/The Food, 32)

"Nor take
life -- which Allaah has made sacred
-- except for just cause. And if
anyone is slain wrongfully, we have
given his heir authority (to demand
retaliation or to forgive): but let
him not exceed bounds in the
matter of taking life, for he is
helped (by the Law)." [Quran 17:33]

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Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by tinnymerit(m): 3:22pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:

Islam started before Muhammed, just as what we now call Christianity started before Jesus Christ.... Those two prophets were just "legends" who popularised them...
Xtianity started after the death of christ because pple were first called xtians after his death.its was judaism bf d christ was born.
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by mko2005: 3:25pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:

Islam started before Muhammed, just as what we now call C[b]hristianity started before Jesus Christ[/b].... Those two prophets were just "legends" who popularised them...
The term Christianity came during and after Jesus'time !
The teachings of Jesus and his life style were not known to men before his coming except the prophesies that went forth before HIS arrival on earth. No wonder the Jews and strict followers and teachers of the laws of Moses thot he was speaking heresy and blaspheming God !
Abraham was not a muslim neither was he a christian !
God help us
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by Nobody: 3:26pm On Mar 26, 2013
tbaba1234:
If you did a little bit of history, you would find out that the moon was the most predominant way of calculating time.

Lol, the second part is best left ignored, it only shows the kind of ignorance, we are talking about... like i said, get out more, read some books

No other ancient civilisation/people cared that much about the moon apart from muslims/arabs... The Egyptians and Greeks cared more about the sun - go figure... And nothing else gives a more accurate time than the sun... We all know what daybreak is because of the Sun... The Sun basically governs everything we do - that's why almost all ancient cultures worshipped the sun..

Was Bilal a black Ethiopian - Yes or No?? And where did prophet Muhammed travel to before knowing about Islam
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by oluking: 3:28pm On Mar 26, 2013
nothing to say here for me oooo.
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by tbaba1234: 3:30pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:
So, Apostle Paul is a fraud now, no??

If Abraham, Isaac, Hagar, and Hannah - how come there's no proof that they walked this planet apart from the Torah and bible Heck, the Egyptians kept a record of everything in history in the pyramid hieroglyphics, how come an Abraham who actually lived in Egypt never made it to the Egyptian history books?? Not even enigmatic Hagar and her son who were Egyptians...

My opinions of paul are not great to put it mildly.

If you built your entire conspiracy theory on that, then it is very weak... So we have records of every single person that lived in egypt?... Hagar was a slave, wasn't she?
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by Nobody: 3:30pm On Mar 26, 2013
tinnymerit:
Xtianity started after the death of christ because pple were first called xtians after his death.its was judaism bf d christ was born.

I'm just saying there was a religion before what's called Christianity today... That's why the bible has both old and new testaments... The word Judaism is just as new as the word Christianity - everything came from the original Torah...

There's an original Torah where all the Abramahic religions(Judaism, Islam, and Christianity) branched out from... There are still African tribes on the continent who still carry this Torah around...

Buzugee's people(black Hebrews) also carry this Torah around.... grin
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by mko2005: 3:34pm On Mar 26, 2013
iwanchop:

Your comment shows you have no knowledge of the holy quran. Let me tell you what you don't want to hear-Boko Haram guys are not muslims and I will provide proofs
Note that anyone who goes against the teachings of the quran is not a Muslim
1.Boko Haram says GEJ must become a Muslim but the Quran says

“Let there be no
compulsion in religion" (Qur'an 2:256)
“Say, ‘The truth is from Your Lord.’ Let
him who will, believe, and let him who
will, reject it” (Qur'an 18:29).
2.Boko Haram kills innocent citizens but the Quran says
"whoever slays a soul, unless it be
for manslaughter or for mischief in
the land, it is as though he slew all
men; and whoever keeps it alive, it
is as though he kept alive all
men" (al-Maeda/The Food, 32)

"Nor take
life -- which Allaah has made sacred
-- except for just cause. And if
anyone is slain wrongfully, we have
given his heir authority (to demand
retaliation or to forgive): but let
him not exceed bounds in the
matter of taking life, for he is
helped (by the Law)." [Quran 17:33]
The Islamic scholars with good intentions did not do justice to the below in the quran so the others(Boko & the rest) took advantage of it !
[b]Sura 4:101-''Regarding infidels,they are the Muslim's inveterate enemies''
Sura 9:5-''Muslims are to arrest them,besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere for them.Seieze them(unbelievers)and put them to death wherever you find them,kill them wherever you find them.
Sura 4:90-''Seek out the enemies of Islam relentlesly
Sura 2:193-''Fight them until Islam reign supreme
Sura 2:193-''Cut off their heads and cut off the tips of their fingers Sura 8:12
Sura 9:39-''If a muslim does not go to war Allah will kill him
Sura 9:81-'' the heat of war is fierce but more fierce is the heat of hell
Sura 22:78-''Fight for the cause of Allah with the devotion due to him
Sura 9:123-''Make war with the unbelievers who live around you
Sura 48:29-''Be ruthless to unbelievers
Sura 8:69-''Enjoy the good things you have gained through fighting
Sura 6:152 Kill any person you wish if it be a just cause
Sura 61:3 Allah love those who fight for his cause
Sura 5:34 any one who fights against Allah or renounces islam in favor of another religion shall be put to death or crucified or have his hand and feet cut off alternative sides Sura-5:34
Sahih Al-Bukhari-''Whoever changes his islamic religion,kill him.
Quran 9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them,and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.
Quran 69:30-37-''Take him and fetter and expose him to hell fire
Quran 8:12-'' I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers,smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them
Quran 5:33-'' They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides
Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol 4 P55- Know that paradise is under the shades of swords ![/b]

The above is what Shekau and the others sell to their members !

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Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by newacca: 3:35pm On Mar 26, 2013
AL'ISLAM cool
Kongi himself please tell 'em oooo. They do not have the knowledge of the holy Quran,yet they call themselves Muslims. They are nothing but bunch of illiterates,fanatics and ignorants hiding under the name of Islam(Religion of Peace)
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by AbdH: 3:36pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:

The sun is actually better for calculating time... When the sun rises, you know what period of the day it is... When it sets, you also know what period of the say it is... The sun also shows the seasons in every year - it enables you to know if it's winter, autumn, summer, or spring...

The Ethiopians probably educated everyone about the Abrahamaic religions... Abyssinia(Ethiopia) is like the place where God always tell everyone to seek refuge in the bible when they get in trouble... You can check the bible to find out....

Saudi Arabians never knew nor heard anything about Islam till prophet Muhammed's sojourn to Ethiopia... So where did he learn about the religion??
The sun is only better to calculate days. It has nothing on the moon where monthly calculations are concerned. The moon is more accurate.
About the Saudis and Islam, they knew about monotheism and a divine God called Allah before Mohammad. Saudis knew about Islam after the first revelation came to Mohammed S.A.W in the cave from the angel Jubril A.S and not from the Ethiopians as you put it.
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by Nobody: 3:37pm On Mar 26, 2013
tbaba1234:
My opinions of paul are not great to put it mildly.

If you built your entire conspiracy theory on that, then it is very weak... So we have records of every single person that lived in egypt?... Hagar was a slave, wasn't she?

Apostle Paul was the last great prophet in the bible - so you can't question his credibility... Apart from Jesus - who's as legendary as Apostle Paul in the new testament??

I repeat, I don't do conspiracies - I deal with facts... Hagar was an Egyptian and she birthed the father of the Arabs(according to Abrahamic religions)... So, how come the Egyptian never recorded anything about these great Egyptians(both Hagar and Ishmael)... Heck, they have no records of Abraham as well... grin Even Moses, his great great great great grand son, who allegedly told the Egyptians to let his people go is missing on the Egyptian pyramid hieroglyphics.... grin

All these people were allegories - they never walked this planet, period!!
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by koreye: 3:38pm On Mar 26, 2013
firstolalekan: [size=32pt]ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE.
A TRUE AND REAL MUSLIM IS A PEACEFUL INDIVIDUAL.


BOKO HARAMS ARE NOT MUSLIMS, THEY ARE JUST IGNORANT FANATIC PAGANS HIDING UNDER ISLAM.
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Alhamdulilah
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by Nobody: 3:38pm On Mar 26, 2013
AbdH:
The sun is only better to calculate days. It has nothing on the moon where monthly calculations are concerned. The moon is more accurate.

Lmao.. whatever.. undecided
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by tawa89(f): 3:39pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:

Christianity didn't start with Jesus - even Jesus went to the Church as a young kid as well... How about all the other prophets in the Bible before Jesus?? The Elijahs, Elishas etc.?? We no call it Christianity, but the actual religion itself existed before Jesus...
LMAO @ Jesus went to church as a kid.....LOL! Oh boy u dey Bleep up oooo
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by tbaba1234: 3:40pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:

No other ancient civilisation/people cared that much about the moon apart from muslims/arabs... The Egyptians and Greeks cared more about the sun - go figure... And nothing else gives a more accurate time than the sun... We all know what daybreak is because of the Sun... The Sun basically governs everything we do - that's why almost all ancient cultures worshipped the sun..

Was Bilal a black Ethiopian - Yes or No?? And where did prophet Muhammed travel to before knowing about Islam


The lunar calendar was the basis of counting time for the ancient Chinese, Babylonians, Hindus, Greeks, and Jews.

Again, PLEASE learn a bit of history.

There are no records of the prophet ever going to ethiopia or any where in Africa. Bilal was a black ethiopian slave, who accepted Islam and was a very honoured muslim
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by usefaith(m): 3:41pm On Mar 26, 2013
tbaba1234:

If you did a little bit of history, you would find out that the moon was the most predominant way of calculating time.

Lol, the second part is best left ignored, it only shows the kind of ignorance, we are talking about... like i said, get out more, read some books
Alhamdulilahi for you my brother,
May Allah (subhanah U wa ta'la) continue to increase you in knowledge and understanding... Jazakumu Lahu khairan

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Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by Nobody: 3:43pm On Mar 26, 2013
tawa89: LMAO @ Jesus went to church as a kid.....LOL! Oh boy u dey Bleep up oooo

How old was he when he went to great Jewish Temple?? - or is a 12yr old not a kid to you?? undecided undecided

Some of you are just ridiculously re.tarded!! grin
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by tbaba1234: 3:46pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:

How old was he when he went to great Jewish Temple?? - or is a 12yr old not a kid to you?? undecided undecided

Some of you are just ridiculously re.tarded!! grin

Church?? Jewish temple??

keep exposing your ignorance
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by Nobody: 3:49pm On Mar 26, 2013
tbaba1234:
The lunar calendar was the basis of counting time for the ancient Chinese, Babylonians, Hindus, Greeks, and Jews.

Again, PLEASE learn a bit of history.

There are no records of the prophet ever going to ethiopia or any where in Africa. Bilal was a black ethiopian slave, who accepted Islam and was a very honoured muslim

Lmao..

Do you even know that the principal center of Islamic culture and learning during those times was Harar in Eastern Ethiopia

You mean the same Prophet Muhammed who went to seek refuge with his followers under King Negus of Ethiopia never visited Africa Are you an Arab - bro., you lie too much, for crying out loud..
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by Nobody: 3:51pm On Mar 26, 2013
tbaba1234:

Church?? Jewish temple??

keep exposing your ignorance

What's the difference between a Temple and a Church What do they do there Are both places not where people worship their God and practice their religion??

Are you this dumb or just feigning it??
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by tbaba1234: 3:52pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:

Lmao..

Do you even know that the principal center of Islamic culture and learning during those times was Harar in Eastern Ethiopia

You mean the same Prophet Muhammed who went to seek refuge with his followers under King Negus of Ethiopia never visited Africa Are you an Arab - bro., you lie too much, for crying out loud..

Again, you know very little... Read books

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) sent some of his companions to Ethiopia where there was a christian king known for ruling with Justice.

He never went there himself, His only migration was to medina..

Dude, get out more, read some books.
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by tomakint: 3:53pm On Mar 26, 2013
firstolalekan: [size=32pt]ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE.
A TRUE AND REAL MUSLIM IS A PEACEFUL INDIVIDUAL.


BOKO HARAMS ARE NOT MUSLIMS, THEY ARE JUST IGNORANT FANATIC PAGANS HIDING UNDER ISLAM.
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[size=32pt]LIE LIE E-LIE LIE [/size]

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Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by firstolalekan(m): 3:54pm On Mar 26, 2013
Unimke_Ak: [size=8pt]

Majority of the followers of Islam are very violent in nature.
Most of u might hv seen Family Guy or American Dad (a cartoon Tvseries), it is filled with several episodes depicting Jesus & God in wrng ways. so hilarious u only aware of ur self after a hard laugh. Gbam something about Mohammed and Islam comes for second and there's wide violent protest all over the middle east, northern Africa & Nigeria. Then a clerics sits on his mat and issues a fatwua (dnt kno the correct spelling bt u kno wat am taking abt) demanding for producers to b killed. wtf RELIGION OF PEACE really really?
You Saying BH are fanatics hiding under islam, y can't the hide under any other religion?? How about Alqeada, Taliban, Alshabab ??

Christian believers are not perfect but we all know that peace is preached and 99.9% live it.


what about those pe.dophil reverend fathers? reverend kings? R.itualist pastors e.t.c. Tell me sth i dont know.
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by maclatunji: 3:55pm On Mar 26, 2013
danot1030:

Xtians bring life to those places you mention, why not mention places like syria, iran and pakistan?

LOL... too pathetic to respond to.
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by tbaba1234: 3:55pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:

What's the difference between a Temple and a Church What do they do there Are both places not where people worship their God and practice their religion??

Are you this dumb or just feigning it??

A Jewish Temple and a christian church are different in every respect... The only similarity is that they are places of worship...

Can you say the Ifa priest church?? There are also places of worship.

Keep exposing your ignorance
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by Nobody: 3:57pm On Mar 26, 2013
tbaba1234:
Again, you know very little... Read books

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) sent some of his companions to Ethiopia where there was a christian king known for ruling with Justice.

He never went there himself, His only migration was to medina..

Dude, get out more, read some books.

Keep believing the junk the Arabs re-wrote just to suit their worship of meteorites.... grin

And you can stay kissing the meteorite(black stone in kaaba) as well... undecided undecided
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by AleeEmran: 3:57pm On Mar 26, 2013
Some of the boko haram members cannot even recite a verse from Quran, they don't even know how to pray, just believe on Soyinka have said, they re just been used for political mission, the real boko haram led by their leaders Mohammed Yusuf are no more
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by AleeEmran: 3:59pm On Mar 26, 2013
Some of the boko haram members cannot even recite a verse from Quran, they don't even know how to pray, just believe on what Soyinka have said, they re just been used for political mission, the real boko haram led by their leaders Mohammed Yusuf are no more
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by maclatunji: 4:00pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:

Lmao..

Do you even know that the principal center of Islamic culture and learning during those times was Harar in Eastern Ethiopia

You mean the same Prophet Muhammed who went to seek refuge with his followers under King Negus of Ethiopia never visited Africa Are you an Arab - bro., you lie too much, for crying out loud..

The Prophet never sought refuge in Ethiopia, some of the weakest of his followers were directed to go there and they found King Negus a willing host after having a religious discourse with the Muslims, he acknowledged Muhammad's (SAW) Prophethood.
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by Nobody: 4:01pm On Mar 26, 2013
tbaba1234:
A Jewish Temple and a christian church are different in every respect... The only similarity is that they are places of worship...

Can you say the Ifa priest church?? There are also places of worship.

Keep exposing your ignorance

So why was he teaching about the same religion if the religion practised in the Jewish temple was different from the religion that was later named after him??... Heck, he preached about all the great prophets in the old testament as well...

However, I don't think a Christian would go to an Ifa temple to teach about Ifa philosophy and still claim to be a Christian... Stop comparing apples to oranges...
Re: Soyinka: Boko-Haram's Knowledge Of Islam Is Limited by tawa89(f): 4:01pm On Mar 26, 2013
shymexx:

How old was he when he went to great Jewish Temple?? - or is a 12yr old not a kid to you?? undecided undecided

Some of you are just ridiculously re.tarded!! grin
the jewish temple is called a synagogue and not a Church. A church is an assembly of christians. The word 'christians' was used in Antioch and became popular in the 2nd century. So how did Christ go to 'church' went he wasnt even a Christian .LOL u are funny tho. Comic relief i tell ya * pardon my errors no time to proof read*

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