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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 2:45pm On Aug 08, 2014
osca234: @ Robonski can i use BLAGBON ANTI FUNGUS AND BACTERIA to disinfect my hacthery before hatching or will it destroy the eggs?

Does anyone know where ic an get it around delta and benin...I hav been looking for it here but no one seems to know it.

pls help
thanks

Apply blagdon a day before hatching and drain off the next day.. Oga excelsior has told u where to get the blagdon from in benin.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 2:47pm On Aug 08, 2014
ugohs:
I am currently using 0.5mm

Feed less bro, and siphon the dirt more frequently..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 3:14pm On Aug 08, 2014
XTIANmaha: Pls op u said u used, ziggler for 3month nd and vital 2month. Pls from ur write up
1.U saying u used ziggler for 3month n u feed dm 3times a day?
2. Are u saying u fed dm vital twice a day for d 4th month n once a day at d 5th month?
3. During ds period pls did u apply any medcine to boost growth?
4.U said u put 1000 into a pond pls sir what's d size of ur pond?
5.Pls how much will u say if feeding with ziggler n vital a single fish will cost averagely?
6 I believe u bought ur feed in bulk or whole sale, pls how much does a bag of ziggler n vital cost on whole sale price.
Thanks sir , I appreciate it more if u can answer me one after d other. Thanks

1. yes
2. yes
3. I applied livestovit
4. 10x10 feet
5. 250
6. I bought in wholesale.. zeigler price differs from location. u can contact the guy that just advertised for a summary of the prices of each MM


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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 5:23pm On Aug 08, 2014
U can now add me on my new BBM pin 75128EC6.. Thanks

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by MAKEWAY2029: 6:05pm On Aug 08, 2014
robonski15: U can now add me on my new BBM pin 75128EC6.. Thanks

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Great job you are doing here, I am impressed and interested but right now I can read all the pages but I'l from a pc soon. Just a quickie, how long is the training course in the farm in Benin, the cost and scope? Thanks!
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by MickyMozay(m): 10:14pm On Aug 08, 2014
robonski15:

1. yes
2. yes
3. I applied livestovit
4. 10x10 feet
5. 250
6. I bought in wholesale.. zeigler price differs from location. u can contact the guy that just advertised for a summary of the prices of each MM


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Pls oga robonski, what the weight of your fish at maturating after d five months of using ziggler and vital feed.
U said yu stock 1,000 fishes in 10x10 measurement pond, i wanna ask, isn't that too small? when the pond can contain over 3,000fishes
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Belexy(m): 4:47pm On Aug 09, 2014
MickyMozay:
Pls oga robonski, what the weight of your fish at maturating after d five months of using ziggler and vital feed.
U said yu stock 1,000 fishes in 10x10 measurement pond, i wanna ask, isn't that too small? when the pond can contain over 3,000fishes

Over 3000 shocked u will just av runts at 5months
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 4:51pm On Aug 09, 2014
Belexy:

Over 3000 shocked u will just av runts at 5months

What is the BB Pin to join novice farmers' group, sir?

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 8:25pm On Aug 09, 2014
MickyMozay:
Pls oga robonski, what the weight of your fish at maturating after d five months of using ziggler and vital feed.
U said yu stock 1,000 fishes in 10x10 measurement pond, i wanna ask, isn't that too small? when the pond can contain over 3,000fishes
hmmmm
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by MickyMozay(m): 9:55pm On Aug 09, 2014
excelsiorfarm: hmmmm
Judging by the formula oga exclessior posted early on, 10x10ft pond can house 3,000fishes nau
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:43pm On Aug 09, 2014
MickyMozay:
Judging by the formula oga exclessior posted early on, 10x10ft pond can house 3,000fishes nau
let me calculate d formular for u, lenght x breadth x depth x 7.5 = gallons, to litres in US =multiply by 3.79 =3.8 , UK Litres multiply 4.55 , pls do d maths sir, no misquote me

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:55pm On Aug 09, 2014
excelsiorfarm: a simple way to know what to stock, multiply d lenght x breadth x depth x 7.5 x (3.79 us litres) or (4.55 uk litres) = capacity of your pond, u can calculate about btw 10 - 12 litres each, with experience can reduce to 8(great work), u never mentioned depth, any calculation or answer of stocking given, is mere assumption, do d maths & u are free to do your stocking calculation,yourself at any time. Happy Sunday
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 11:58pm On Aug 09, 2014
MickyMozay:
Judging by the formula oga exclessior posted early on, 10x10ft pond can house 3,000fishes nau
Your correct calculation for 10x10Ft,lets assume d depth u didnt put is 4Ft i.e 10 X 10 X 4 X 7.5 = 3000 gallons ,now to litres, if US = 3.8 X 3000 = 11400L, if UK = 4.55 x 3000 = 13650L ( 10-12L for each), go back to page 84,i recommended US litres to someone that asked on page 85 =11400 divided by 10 - 12 litres per fish = btw 950 - 1140 fishes for your 10 x 10 FT, I keep to all i say by God's Grace, pls quote me well, dont add or remove whatever i write/say, i go sue u oooh (laugh)

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by investnow2013: 10:53am On Aug 10, 2014
excelsiorfarm: Your correct calculation for 10x10Ft,lets assume d depth u didnt put is 4Ft i.e 10 X 10 X 4 X 7.5 = 3000 gallons ,now to litres, if US = 3.8 X 3000 = 11400L, if UK = 4.55 x 3000 = 13650L ( 10-12L for each), go back to page 84,i recommended US litres to someone that asked on page 85 =11400 divided by 10 - 12 litres per fish = btw 950 - 1140 fishes for your 10 x 10 FT, I keep to all i say by God's Grace, pls quote me well, dont add or remove whatever i write/say, i go sue u oooh (laugh)
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ROBBEN(m): 12:29pm On Aug 10, 2014
Guys i am happy to finally be able to say something on this forum i have read several contributions and i must say am impressed, that said my name is Obinna Nwogu i work and live in port harcourt, i have a fish pond in my compound,my ponds are twelve in number(concrete ponds) with a capacity of at least 1500 per pond i started this bussiness a year ago August 2013 i have harvested and sold three time since i started i have enough space to build a hatchery but i am putting that on hold until i get much more experience. from each harvest i learn more and improve by the next harvestso afr i have not lost money neither have i made the money am supposed to make, but am patient and i know that i have a lot to learn and am not rushing. on my three harvest i only stocked five thousand fingerlings, though my pond can contain 18-20000 fingerlings if i decide to stock it fully and i have enough money to feed them for four or five months but that is not what i want for now i want to understand this bussiness very well i do it myself without any more help than from my gateman and my wife.
Gentlemen the essence of this my long and boring story is to ask for help i have harvested three times but i am not impressed with the size of fish i get, mind you i did not say the weigth i said the size, i change my water in my ponds every two to three days i feed them zeigler feed and i buy my feed in bulk i have a dedicated borehole and generator in short i have the ideal facility what i need is to produce the fish of the rigth size and weigth and understand what i need to do to get them to that weigth and size before i stock my farm fully to it maximum capacity.

I need help and advice gentlemen and i know that there are seasoned and experienced farmers on this forum to help me acheive my goal.
as i said before i live in port harcourt. thanks guys expecting your quick and prompt response.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 12:42pm On Aug 10, 2014
ROBBEN: Guys i am happy to finally be able to say something on this forum i have read several contributions and i must say am impressed, that said my name is Obinna Nwogu i work and live in port harcourt, i have a fish pond in my compound,my ponds are twelve in number(concrete ponds) with a capacity of at least 1500 per pond i started this bussiness a year ago August 2013 i have harvested and sold three time since i started i have enough space to build a hatchery but i am putting that on hold until i get much more experience. from each harvest i learn more and improve by the next harvestso afr i have not lost money neither have i made the money am supposed to make, but am patient and i know that i have a lot to learn and am not rushing. on my three harvest i only stocked five thousand fingerlings, though my pond can contain 18-20000 fingerlings if i decide to stock it fully and i have enough money to feed them for four or five months but that is not what i want for now i want to understand this bussiness very well i do it myself without any more help than from my gateman and my wife.
Gentlemen the essence of this my long and boring story is to ask for help i have harvested three times but i am not impressed with the size of fish i get, mind you i did not say the weigth i said the size, i change my water in my ponds every two to three days i feed them zeigler feed and i buy my feed in bulk i have a dedicated borehole and generator in short i have the ideal facility what i need is to produce the fish of the rigth size and weigth and understand what i need to do to get them to that weigth and size before i stock my farm fully to it maximum capacity.

I need help and advice gentlemen and i know that there are seasoned and experienced farmers on this forum to help me acheive my goal.
as i said before i live in port harcourt. thanks guys expecting your quick and prompt response.
i feel, u need to write what was your average weight/size, how long u kept them, d size u bought & got at harvest, what happen 1st,2nd, 3rd time, differences/ correllation, doctors ( medical doctors dont vex oooh) dont prescribe until they have adequate info(symtoms) from their clients (laugh). Educate us with d answers to d question asked & proper solution can be profer

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by MickyMozay(m): 2:30pm On Aug 10, 2014
excelsiorfarm: Your correct calculation for 10x10Ft,lets assume d depth u didnt put is 4Ft i.e 10 X 10 X 4 X 7.5 = 3000 gallons ,now to litres, if US = 3.8 X 3000 = 11400L, if UK = 4.55 x 3000 = 13650L ( 10-12L for each), go back to page 84,i recommended US litres to someone that asked on page 85 =11400 divided by 10 - 12 litres per fish = btw 950 - 1140 fishes for your 10 x 10 FT, I keep to all i say by God's Grace, pls quote me well, dont add or remove whatever i write/say, i go sue u oooh (laugh)

Am sorry sir, i mis-understood it. Buh i now understand very well. Thanks
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 2:48pm On Aug 10, 2014
Happy Sunday to everyone. Please I will need to know how often I'm supposed to wash my pond. I use tarpauline. Secondly, I will like to know if a pond with a depth of about 3ft will have any negative impact on the growth of my fishes. Thirdly, will like to know if it's a must that an earthen pond should be constructed in a land near the river.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 3:30pm On Aug 10, 2014
MickyMozay:

Am sorry sir, i mis-understood it. Buh i now understand very well. Thanks
i for call falana for u (laugh), not to worry we all learn daily. Nobody started running on d first day, Thank God & God bless.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 3:43pm On Aug 10, 2014
pharmzy: Happy Sunday to everyone. Please I will need to know how often I'm supposed to wash my pond. I use tarpauline. Secondly, I will like to know if a pond with a depth of about 3ft will have any negative impact on the growth of my fishes. Thirdly, will like to know if it's a must that an earthen pond should be constructed in a land near the river.
last answer, not neccessary, but d land should be able to spring out water & hold water. No negative impact for that depth, except excessive heat(cos of tarpauline), though can cause stress or disease outbreak if extreme, how often u wash depends on some/combination of all these factors; pollution, water change, use of medication(residue), algae buildup, disease observe, age of fish, response to feed. 2-3wks fair, but if u notice change in your fish response to feed earlier, no harm in washing( can easily mob up d slime with foam in case u have no other transfer tank), GOD BLESS, JESUS IS LORD
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Belexy(m): 4:20pm On Aug 10, 2014
Fhemmmy:

What is the BB Pin to join novice farmers' group, sir?

Lol Oga fhemmy d fish consultant. Actually its a whatsapp grp. The bbm grp died a natural death. Plz contact me on whatsapp: 08023000802 so i can add u to d grp.
We regularly share pictures wen we av fish issues and i knw u like dat grin
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Belexy(m): 4:33pm On Aug 10, 2014
I use 3feet(depth) tarpaulin ponds bcoz its convenient for me to manage. If ur pond is shaded, u wont av issues wt heat. I hardly av much slime and i only wash my ponds after i harvest. Theres hardly build up of algae except u leave d water for abt two weeks and theres direct sunlight to d water.

pharmzy: Happy Sunday to everyone. Please I will need to know how often I'm supposed to wash my pond. I use tarpauline. Secondly, I will like to know if a pond with a depth of about 3ft will have any negative impact on the growth of my fishes. Thirdly, will like to know if it's a must that an earthen pond should be constructed in a land near the river.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ROBBEN(m): 4:44pm On Aug 10, 2014
@excelsiorfarm thanks for your prompt response at the time of harvest i have would have already sorted them into sizes as i sort them three to four times before harvest and i also keep them for at least four months the biiggest sizes are mostly on an average og 0.9-0.8kg while the rest are within the 0.7-0.6kg margin the only medication i give them is this bio that i mix in warm water and sprinke on their feed to aid in digestion and all and i only did that for the last 5000 i stocked .

i just stocked another 5000 fingerlings last week tuesday i want to see what the difference will be with you guidance and advice. i feed twice a day morning and nigth, but when they are small as in when they eat 0.8-1.2 mm i feed them regularly also when they eat 2mm i feed them as often as they are hungry but when they start eating 3mm and 4mm i feed them twice a day.

i have not really used any serious medication for them except that bio (orange pack) sorry i cant remmember the full name now so many things on my mind.i have also noticed that the ones that get to 1kg and above which are a few are not really that big in size.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ROBBEN(m): 5:05pm On Aug 10, 2014
the first time i did not change the water as regularly as i did in the second and third one and i did not use anything else apart from just feeding them in all the three harvest i have been able to recoup my capital but really cant say i have made any real profit. in the second one i changed water regularly and fed them well without any medication at all the third time was when i used the bio medication i talked about
i suspect that maybe the species of fingerlings i bougth from someone migth be responsible.

i need to know where to buy the best breed and type of fingerlings that would grow to be large in size and what kind of medication i have to use from this fingerlings stage to get them to be big in three to four months not just a few being big i mean all of them beeing big.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 7:32pm On Aug 10, 2014
Belexy:

Lol Oga fhemmy d fish consultant. Actually its a whatsapp grp. The bbm grp died a natural death. Plz contact me on whatsapp: 08023000802 so i can add u to d grp.
We regularly share pictures wen we av fish issues and i knw u like dat grin

Sent you an invite already and I hear pix I happy well wellu oh.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:38pm On Aug 10, 2014
ROBBEN: @excelsiorfarm thanks for your prompt response at the time of harvest i have would have already sorted them into sizes as i sort them three to four times before harvest and i also keep them for at least four months the biiggest sizes are mostly on an average og 0.9-0.8kg while the rest are within the 0.7-0.6kg margin the only medication i give them is this bio that i mix in warm water and sprinke on their feed to aid in digestion and all and i only did that for the last 5000 i stocked .

i just stocked another 5000 fingerlings last week tuesday i want to see what the difference will be with you guidance and advice. i feed twice a day morning and nigth, but when they are small as in when they eat 0.8-1.2 mm i feed them regularly also when they eat 2mm i feed them as often as they are hungry but when they start eating 3mm and 4mm i feed them twice a day.

i have not really used any serious medication for them except that bio (orange pack) sorry i cant remmember the full name now so many things on my mind.i have also noticed that the ones that get to 1kg and above which are a few are not really that big in size.
thank God u didnt come to post that u suffer lost. Your fishes started with 0.8 - 1.2, hence d sizes was pretty small & even feed on more expensive feed to when they start 2mm (add to cost of production). Possibly d bio u talk of might be bio vitastress, but from my little experience i have observe that aquapro stands out & livestovit also. From your writeup i havent seen much for u to worry about, let me give a little interpretation of possibility, d feed size u mentioned, some can raise fingerlings to that in 3 - 4 weeks depending on broodstock size, breed e.t.c. In a month with u they get to juvenile/post juvenile, that means they did there maturity with u for extra 3 months. Hence u can still improve with aquapro(aids FCR e.t.c), buy reasonable size, not necessarily juvenile(except u choose). For present stock aquapro,livestovit, good water mgt and feeding to satiation will do d magic, GOD BLESS
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:50pm On Aug 10, 2014
ROBBEN: the first time i did not change the water as regularly as i did in the second and third one and i did not use anything else apart from just feeding them in all the three harvest i have been able to recoup my capital but really cant say i have made any real profit. in the second one i changed water regularly and fed them well without any medication at all the third time was when i used the bio medication i talked about
i suspect that maybe the species of fingerlings i bougth from someone migth be responsible.

i need to know where to buy the best breed and type of fingerlings that would grow to be large in size and what kind of medication i have to use from this fingerlings stage to get them to be big in three to four months not just a few being big i mean all of them beeing big.
use d drugs mentioned above. I cant condemn d one who sold u fingerings, but just ask for d age next time(real age), it helps a great deal. I remember of recent on a thread on nairaland(not this thread), someone posted pics of 4 - 5weeks fries & i simply said aint d fishes small for that age, he said he wasnt expecting me to buy(what of those that will buy?), there are lots of great breeder, i also believe in PH we should have them on this thread bro
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by planetfood: 3:05am On Aug 11, 2014
excelsiorfarm: Your correct calculation for 10x10Ft,lets assume d depth u didnt put is 4Ft i.e 10 X 10 X 4 X 7.5 = 3000 gallons ,now to litres, if US = 3.8 X 3000 = 11400L, if UK = 4.55 x 3000 = 13650L ( 10-12L for each), go back to page 84,i recommended US litres to someone that asked on page 85 =11400 divided by 10 - 12 litres per fish = btw 950 - 1140 fishes for your 10 x 10 FT, I keep to all i say by God's Grace, pls quote me well, dont add or remove whatever i write/say, i go sue u oooh (laugh)

pls oo my Oga excelciorfarm the 10-12 that u use to divide the liters , is it a fix standard in the formular?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by kelvin1191(m): 7:48am On Aug 11, 2014
planetfood:

pls oo my Oga excelciorfarm the 10-12 that u use to divide the liters , is it a fix standard in the formular?
that is the quantity of water u are to budget per fish but he said "with experience, u can reduce it to 8"
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 9:17am On Aug 11, 2014
planetfood:

pls oo my Oga excelciorfarm the 10-12 that u use to divide the liters , is it a fix standard in the formular?
standard for anyone, but with experience & sufficient water can reduce to 8 litres, under use of aerator(aerator has grade, depending d level/capacity of oxygen fixation into your pond) / in a recirculatory system(well designed & functional) can even reduce to 5 litres, even more(great design with good tech). If your pond is circular or having irregular shape, u need to reduce your calculated capacity gotten by 20 - 30 %
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 12:07pm On Aug 11, 2014
excelsiorfarm: last answer, not neccessary, but d land should be able to spring out water & hold water. No negative impact for that depth, except excessive heat(cos of tarpauline), though can cause stress or disease outbreak if extreme, how often u wash depends on some/combination of all these factors; pollution, water change, use of medication(residue), algae buildup, disease observe, age of fish, response to feed. 2-3wks fair, but if u notice change in your fish response to feed earlier, no harm in washing( can easily mob up d slime with foam in case u have no other transfer tank), GOD BLESS, JESUS IS LORD
Thanks for the prompt response bro. God bless. Pls I will also like to know if the drug(aquapro) you are talking about can be administered to FISH of any age.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 12:25pm On Aug 11, 2014
pharmzy:
Thanks for the prompt response bro. God bless. Pls I will also like to know if the drug(aquapro) you are talking about can be administered to FISH of any age.
start from 2 weeks(ok)

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