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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 2:45pm On Aug 08, 2014 |
osca234: @ Robonski can i use BLAGBON ANTI FUNGUS AND BACTERIA to disinfect my hacthery before hatching or will it destroy the eggs? Apply blagdon a day before hatching and drain off the next day.. Oga excelsior has told u where to get the blagdon from in benin. www.agricnetwork.com |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 2:47pm On Aug 08, 2014 |
ugohs: Feed less bro, and siphon the dirt more frequently.. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 3:14pm On Aug 08, 2014 |
XTIANmaha: Pls op u said u used, ziggler for 3month nd and vital 2month. Pls from ur write up 1. yes 2. yes 3. I applied livestovit 4. 10x10 feet 5. 250 6. I bought in wholesale.. zeigler price differs from location. u can contact the guy that just advertised for a summary of the prices of each MM www.agricnetwork.com 2 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 5:23pm On Aug 08, 2014 |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by MAKEWAY2029: 6:05pm On Aug 08, 2014 |
robonski15: U can now add me on my new BBM pin 75128EC6.. ThanksGreat job you are doing here, I am impressed and interested but right now I can read all the pages but I'l from a pc soon. Just a quickie, how long is the training course in the farm in Benin, the cost and scope? Thanks! |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by MickyMozay(m): 10:14pm On Aug 08, 2014 |
robonski15:Pls oga robonski, what the weight of your fish at maturating after d five months of using ziggler and vital feed. U said yu stock 1,000 fishes in 10x10 measurement pond, i wanna ask, isn't that too small? when the pond can contain over 3,000fishes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Belexy(m): 4:47pm On Aug 09, 2014 |
MickyMozay: Over 3000 u will just av runts at 5months |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 4:51pm On Aug 09, 2014 |
Belexy: What is the BB Pin to join novice farmers' group, sir? 2 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 8:25pm On Aug 09, 2014 |
MickyMozay:hmmmm |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by MickyMozay(m): 9:55pm On Aug 09, 2014 |
excelsiorfarm: hmmmmJudging by the formula oga exclessior posted early on, 10x10ft pond can house 3,000fishes nau |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:43pm On Aug 09, 2014 |
MickyMozay:let me calculate d formular for u, lenght x breadth x depth x 7.5 = gallons, to litres in US =multiply by 3.79 =3.8 , UK Litres multiply 4.55 , pls do d maths sir, no misquote me 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:55pm On Aug 09, 2014 |
excelsiorfarm: a simple way to know what to stock, multiply d lenght x breadth x depth x 7.5 x (3.79 us litres) or (4.55 uk litres) = capacity of your pond, u can calculate about btw 10 - 12 litres each, with experience can reduce to 8(great work), u never mentioned depth, any calculation or answer of stocking given, is mere assumption, do d maths & u are free to do your stocking calculation,yourself at any time. Happy Sunday |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 11:58pm On Aug 09, 2014 |
MickyMozay:Your correct calculation for 10x10Ft,lets assume d depth u didnt put is 4Ft i.e 10 X 10 X 4 X 7.5 = 3000 gallons ,now to litres, if US = 3.8 X 3000 = 11400L, if UK = 4.55 x 3000 = 13650L ( 10-12L for each), go back to page 84,i recommended US litres to someone that asked on page 85 =11400 divided by 10 - 12 litres per fish = btw 950 - 1140 fishes for your 10 x 10 FT, I keep to all i say by God's Grace, pls quote me well, dont add or remove whatever i write/say, i go sue u oooh (laugh) 3 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by investnow2013: 10:53am On Aug 10, 2014 |
excelsiorfarm: Your correct calculation for 10x10Ft,lets assume d depth u didnt put is 4Ft i.e 10 X 10 X 4 X 7.5 = 3000 gallons ,now to litres, if US = 3.8 X 3000 = 11400L, if UK = 4.55 x 3000 = 13650L ( 10-12L for each), go back to page 84,i recommended US litres to someone that asked on page 85 =11400 divided by 10 - 12 litres per fish = btw 950 - 1140 fishes for your 10 x 10 FT, I keep to all i say by God's Grace, pls quote me well, dont add or remove whatever i write/say, i go sue u oooh (laugh) |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ROBBEN(m): 12:29pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
Guys i am happy to finally be able to say something on this forum i have read several contributions and i must say am impressed, that said my name is Obinna Nwogu i work and live in port harcourt, i have a fish pond in my compound,my ponds are twelve in number(concrete ponds) with a capacity of at least 1500 per pond i started this bussiness a year ago August 2013 i have harvested and sold three time since i started i have enough space to build a hatchery but i am putting that on hold until i get much more experience. from each harvest i learn more and improve by the next harvestso afr i have not lost money neither have i made the money am supposed to make, but am patient and i know that i have a lot to learn and am not rushing. on my three harvest i only stocked five thousand fingerlings, though my pond can contain 18-20000 fingerlings if i decide to stock it fully and i have enough money to feed them for four or five months but that is not what i want for now i want to understand this bussiness very well i do it myself without any more help than from my gateman and my wife. Gentlemen the essence of this my long and boring story is to ask for help i have harvested three times but i am not impressed with the size of fish i get, mind you i did not say the weigth i said the size, i change my water in my ponds every two to three days i feed them zeigler feed and i buy my feed in bulk i have a dedicated borehole and generator in short i have the ideal facility what i need is to produce the fish of the rigth size and weigth and understand what i need to do to get them to that weigth and size before i stock my farm fully to it maximum capacity. I need help and advice gentlemen and i know that there are seasoned and experienced farmers on this forum to help me acheive my goal. as i said before i live in port harcourt. thanks guys expecting your quick and prompt response. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 12:42pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
ROBBEN: Guys i am happy to finally be able to say something on this forum i have read several contributions and i must say am impressed, that said my name is Obinna Nwogu i work and live in port harcourt, i have a fish pond in my compound,my ponds are twelve in number(concrete ponds) with a capacity of at least 1500 per pond i started this bussiness a year ago August 2013 i have harvested and sold three time since i started i have enough space to build a hatchery but i am putting that on hold until i get much more experience. from each harvest i learn more and improve by the next harvestso afr i have not lost money neither have i made the money am supposed to make, but am patient and i know that i have a lot to learn and am not rushing. on my three harvest i only stocked five thousand fingerlings, though my pond can contain 18-20000 fingerlings if i decide to stock it fully and i have enough money to feed them for four or five months but that is not what i want for now i want to understand this bussiness very well i do it myself without any more help than from my gateman and my wife.i feel, u need to write what was your average weight/size, how long u kept them, d size u bought & got at harvest, what happen 1st,2nd, 3rd time, differences/ correllation, doctors ( medical doctors dont vex oooh) dont prescribe until they have adequate info(symtoms) from their clients (laugh). Educate us with d answers to d question asked & proper solution can be profer 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by MickyMozay(m): 2:30pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
excelsiorfarm: Your correct calculation for 10x10Ft,lets assume d depth u didnt put is 4Ft i.e 10 X 10 X 4 X 7.5 = 3000 gallons ,now to litres, if US = 3.8 X 3000 = 11400L, if UK = 4.55 x 3000 = 13650L ( 10-12L for each), go back to page 84,i recommended US litres to someone that asked on page 85 =11400 divided by 10 - 12 litres per fish = btw 950 - 1140 fishes for your 10 x 10 FT, I keep to all i say by God's Grace, pls quote me well, dont add or remove whatever i write/say, i go sue u oooh (laugh) Am sorry sir, i mis-understood it. Buh i now understand very well. Thanks |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 2:48pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
Happy Sunday to everyone. Please I will need to know how often I'm supposed to wash my pond. I use tarpauline. Secondly, I will like to know if a pond with a depth of about 3ft will have any negative impact on the growth of my fishes. Thirdly, will like to know if it's a must that an earthen pond should be constructed in a land near the river. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 3:30pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
MickyMozay:i for call falana for u (laugh), not to worry we all learn daily. Nobody started running on d first day, Thank God & God bless. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 3:43pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
pharmzy: Happy Sunday to everyone. Please I will need to know how often I'm supposed to wash my pond. I use tarpauline. Secondly, I will like to know if a pond with a depth of about 3ft will have any negative impact on the growth of my fishes. Thirdly, will like to know if it's a must that an earthen pond should be constructed in a land near the river.last answer, not neccessary, but d land should be able to spring out water & hold water. No negative impact for that depth, except excessive heat(cos of tarpauline), though can cause stress or disease outbreak if extreme, how often u wash depends on some/combination of all these factors; pollution, water change, use of medication(residue), algae buildup, disease observe, age of fish, response to feed. 2-3wks fair, but if u notice change in your fish response to feed earlier, no harm in washing( can easily mob up d slime with foam in case u have no other transfer tank), GOD BLESS, JESUS IS LORD |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Belexy(m): 4:20pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
Fhemmmy: Lol Oga fhemmy d fish consultant. Actually its a whatsapp grp. The bbm grp died a natural death. Plz contact me on whatsapp: 08023000802 so i can add u to d grp. We regularly share pictures wen we av fish issues and i knw u like dat |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Belexy(m): 4:33pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
I use 3feet(depth) tarpaulin ponds bcoz its convenient for me to manage. If ur pond is shaded, u wont av issues wt heat. I hardly av much slime and i only wash my ponds after i harvest. Theres hardly build up of algae except u leave d water for abt two weeks and theres direct sunlight to d water. pharmzy: Happy Sunday to everyone. Please I will need to know how often I'm supposed to wash my pond. I use tarpauline. Secondly, I will like to know if a pond with a depth of about 3ft will have any negative impact on the growth of my fishes. Thirdly, will like to know if it's a must that an earthen pond should be constructed in a land near the river. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ROBBEN(m): 4:44pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
@excelsiorfarm thanks for your prompt response at the time of harvest i have would have already sorted them into sizes as i sort them three to four times before harvest and i also keep them for at least four months the biiggest sizes are mostly on an average og 0.9-0.8kg while the rest are within the 0.7-0.6kg margin the only medication i give them is this bio that i mix in warm water and sprinke on their feed to aid in digestion and all and i only did that for the last 5000 i stocked . i just stocked another 5000 fingerlings last week tuesday i want to see what the difference will be with you guidance and advice. i feed twice a day morning and nigth, but when they are small as in when they eat 0.8-1.2 mm i feed them regularly also when they eat 2mm i feed them as often as they are hungry but when they start eating 3mm and 4mm i feed them twice a day. i have not really used any serious medication for them except that bio (orange pack) sorry i cant remmember the full name now so many things on my mind.i have also noticed that the ones that get to 1kg and above which are a few are not really that big in size. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ROBBEN(m): 5:05pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
the first time i did not change the water as regularly as i did in the second and third one and i did not use anything else apart from just feeding them in all the three harvest i have been able to recoup my capital but really cant say i have made any real profit. in the second one i changed water regularly and fed them well without any medication at all the third time was when i used the bio medication i talked about i suspect that maybe the species of fingerlings i bougth from someone migth be responsible. i need to know where to buy the best breed and type of fingerlings that would grow to be large in size and what kind of medication i have to use from this fingerlings stage to get them to be big in three to four months not just a few being big i mean all of them beeing big. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 7:32pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
Belexy: Sent you an invite already and I hear pix I happy well wellu oh. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:38pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
ROBBEN: @excelsiorfarm thanks for your prompt response at the time of harvest i have would have already sorted them into sizes as i sort them three to four times before harvest and i also keep them for at least four months the biiggest sizes are mostly on an average og 0.9-0.8kg while the rest are within the 0.7-0.6kg margin the only medication i give them is this bio that i mix in warm water and sprinke on their feed to aid in digestion and all and i only did that for the last 5000 i stocked .thank God u didnt come to post that u suffer lost. Your fishes started with 0.8 - 1.2, hence d sizes was pretty small & even feed on more expensive feed to when they start 2mm (add to cost of production). Possibly d bio u talk of might be bio vitastress, but from my little experience i have observe that aquapro stands out & livestovit also. From your writeup i havent seen much for u to worry about, let me give a little interpretation of possibility, d feed size u mentioned, some can raise fingerlings to that in 3 - 4 weeks depending on broodstock size, breed e.t.c. In a month with u they get to juvenile/post juvenile, that means they did there maturity with u for extra 3 months. Hence u can still improve with aquapro(aids FCR e.t.c), buy reasonable size, not necessarily juvenile(except u choose). For present stock aquapro,livestovit, good water mgt and feeding to satiation will do d magic, GOD BLESS |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:50pm On Aug 10, 2014 |
ROBBEN: the first time i did not change the water as regularly as i did in the second and third one and i did not use anything else apart from just feeding them in all the three harvest i have been able to recoup my capital but really cant say i have made any real profit. in the second one i changed water regularly and fed them well without any medication at all the third time was when i used the bio medication i talked aboutuse d drugs mentioned above. I cant condemn d one who sold u fingerings, but just ask for d age next time(real age), it helps a great deal. I remember of recent on a thread on nairaland(not this thread), someone posted pics of 4 - 5weeks fries & i simply said aint d fishes small for that age, he said he wasnt expecting me to buy(what of those that will buy?), there are lots of great breeder, i also believe in PH we should have them on this thread bro |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by planetfood: 3:05am On Aug 11, 2014 |
excelsiorfarm: Your correct calculation for 10x10Ft,lets assume d depth u didnt put is 4Ft i.e 10 X 10 X 4 X 7.5 = 3000 gallons ,now to litres, if US = 3.8 X 3000 = 11400L, if UK = 4.55 x 3000 = 13650L ( 10-12L for each), go back to page 84,i recommended US litres to someone that asked on page 85 =11400 divided by 10 - 12 litres per fish = btw 950 - 1140 fishes for your 10 x 10 FT, I keep to all i say by God's Grace, pls quote me well, dont add or remove whatever i write/say, i go sue u oooh (laugh) pls oo my Oga excelciorfarm the 10-12 that u use to divide the liters , is it a fix standard in the formular? |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by kelvin1191(m): 7:48am On Aug 11, 2014 |
planetfood:that is the quantity of water u are to budget per fish but he said "with experience, u can reduce it to 8" |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 9:17am On Aug 11, 2014 |
planetfood:standard for anyone, but with experience & sufficient water can reduce to 8 litres, under use of aerator(aerator has grade, depending d level/capacity of oxygen fixation into your pond) / in a recirculatory system(well designed & functional) can even reduce to 5 litres, even more(great design with good tech). If your pond is circular or having irregular shape, u need to reduce your calculated capacity gotten by 20 - 30 % |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 12:07pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
excelsiorfarm: last answer, not neccessary, but d land should be able to spring out water & hold water. No negative impact for that depth, except excessive heat(cos of tarpauline), though can cause stress or disease outbreak if extreme, how often u wash depends on some/combination of all these factors; pollution, water change, use of medication(residue), algae buildup, disease observe, age of fish, response to feed. 2-3wks fair, but if u notice change in your fish response to feed earlier, no harm in washing( can easily mob up d slime with foam in case u have no other transfer tank), GOD BLESS, JESUS IS LORDThanks for the prompt response bro. God bless. Pls I will also like to know if the drug(aquapro) you are talking about can be administered to FISH of any age. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 12:25pm On Aug 11, 2014 |
pharmzy:start from 2 weeks(ok) |
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