dedons: It has drastically reduced...infact it has stopped finally...no more curruption in NIGERIA as far as i'm concernd.

U are rite






No be the same NAIJA you and me dey,wey u cum dey ask dis kind question

dedons: It has drastically reduced...infact it has stopped finally...no more curruption in NIGERIA as far as i'm concernd.

U are rite






No be the same NAIJA you and me dey,wey u cum dey ask dis kind question

atiku07:

This guy I don't want to know who you r but u can be so annoying. Even if u r given a job to do why can't u try as much as possible and do it with ur church mind. I see dis stupid question backed with crazy and myopic form of analysis as the height of insult ever received by Nigerians from the GEJ 40 laptop gang. Haba how can a right thinking human be asking such a nauseating question in the wake of the almaiyesgha (don't know if I got the spelling right)pardonegate,police pension scam, subsidy borouhaha,a defective judiciary and all u now came here with some beer parlour analysis on how supposing 20billion did its Job and how 500million did its and how funds no longer go into private pocket, how are we sure those funds r not even inflated.

Sincere9gerian

Do u even know de definition of corruption abi from de training u received on how to defend a defective government blindly you were told corruption only entails making sure money does not go into the private pocket abi. Well corruption is way more than that o! Mr defender of the retardeen it involves all spheres of government from local to private sector corruption is just every where even the blind can feel it. Your so called GEJ finally lost de whole respect I had for him when he pardoned dat s.l.o.w p.o.k.e bail jumping son of a gorilla. So with all said and done I will conclude that corruption had just set a world record in Nigeria during ur oga's era and he is even doing next to nothing to curb dat Poo (abi how does one explain appointing a reknown thief as NPA chairman anyway it shows ur oga's anticident as a fellow partaker of corruption noni) all thesame we r patiently waiting 2015 is simply around the corner where we can teach u nit wit that Nigerians ain't no fools "we all know As e dey go"

Sincere 9gerian:
Unfortunately, we have done badly in the aspect of prosecuting corrupt people and securing convictions. Our justice system is painfully slow. That has to change. It should be possible to arraign people for corruption and get judgement within 6months.
Nonetheless, our people have to understand the fact that corruption is not only fought by catching people and throwing them into prison. Prevention of corruption is also an important way of fighting corruption. Remember also that prevention is always better and most times cheaper than cure. It is better to prevent the money from being stolen than allowing the money to be stolen after which we now begin to chase after those who have stolen the money. More over, chasing after looters of the treasury does not come cheap.

Katsumoto: Someone who benefits from the corruption is asking others whether corruption is increasing or reducing. Why don't you just pay others, from the crumbs you are getting, to agree with you?

If corruption was reducing, would Alams, an internationally wanted thief, be sharing the same toilet seat as the president?

And would the president's spokesmen be saying publicly that Alams is crucial to Nigeria's economy?

payless: Getting rid of corruption starts with Jonathan putting IBB, Obasano, Abubakar, Atiku, Patience jonathan, Anenih, Mainna, Alams, and many more on trial for corrupt practices. Anything else is lip service.

Jollof: @ OP - Thanks for bringing up the issue of Corruption but the issue isn't necessarily whether or not it's increasing or decreasing...it exists and it has reached alarming levels as you've pointed out. The next post you should be thinking of (and that would be more engaging) should be how to tackle corruption. This forum should serve as a decent sample of Nigerians from diverse backgrounds so I believe it would be interesting to see the different ways we think it can be reduced e.g. How would you tackle corruption as the President of Nigeria? And please be reminded that even though we know the corruption in government/public sector is one issue, corruption in the private sector also exists...some churches are no exception. Looking forward to the follow-up.

atiku07:

This guy I don't want to know who you r but u can be so annoying. Even if u r given a job to do why can't u try as much as possible and do it with ur church mind. I see dis stupid question backed with crazy and myopic form of analysis as the height of insult ever received by Nigerians from the GEJ 40 laptop gang. Haba how can a right thinking human be asking such a nauseating question in the wake of the almaiyesgha (don't know if I got the spelling right)pardonegate,police pension scam, subsidy borouhaha,a defective judiciary and all u now came here with some beer parlour analysis on how supposing 20billion did its Job and how 500million did its and how funds no longer go into private pocket, how are we sure those funds r not even inflated.

Sincere9gerian

Do u even know de definition of corruption abi from de training u received on how to defend a defective government blindly you were told corruption only entails making sure money does not go into the private pocket abi. Well corruption is way more than that o! Mr defender of the retardeen it involves all spheres of government from local to private sector corruption is just every where even the blind can feel it. Your so called GEJ finally lost de whole respect I had for him when he pardoned dat s.l.o.w p.o.k.e bail jumping son of a gorilla. So with all said and done I will conclude that corruption had just set a world record in Nigeria during ur oga's era and he is even doing next to nothing to curb dat Poo (abi how does one explain appointing a reknown thief as NPA chairman anyway it shows ur oga's anticident as a fellow partaker of corruption noni) all thesame we r patiently waiting 2015 is simply around the corner where we can teach u nit wit that Nigerians ain't no fools "we all know As e dey go"

Katsumoto: Someone who benefits from the corruption is asking others whether corruption is increasing or reducing. Why don't you just pay others, from the crumbs you are getting, to agree with you?

If corruption was reducing, would Alams, an internationally wanted thief, be sharing the same toilet seat as the president? And would the president's spokesmen be saying publicly that Alams is crucial to Nigeria's economy?

Laalamed: most of u guys are corrupt as well.fornication, cheating in exam,petty thief etc. as long as nigerians are corrupt govt remain corrupt.

Katsumoto: Someone who benefits from the corruption is asking others whether corruption is increasing or reducing. Why don't you just pay others, from the crumbs you are getting, to agree with you?

If corruption was reducing, would Alams, an internationally wanted thief, be sharing the same toilet seat as the president? And would the president's spokesmen be saying publicly that Alams is crucial to Nigeria's economy?

chukkynwob: @Sincere9gerian I commend your efforts at trying to establish an objective analysis on the level of corruption in Nigeria

Nevertheless from the comments on this thread majority of Nigerians on this thread think corruption is on increase,that must really say something about Nigeria.

Even though your arguments that preventing corruption is better than fighting corruption sounds good but I personally think that sending a strong message by the judiciary,that for every corrupt practise there will be a full and swift legal recompense will serve as a glaring deterrent to corruption and both should work in tandem.

In the end the issue like one poster said corruption in Nigeria is very subjective as it depends on an individual's political affliation,position in the society and most importantly level of information on the topic

God bless Sincere9gerian, God bless the federal republic of Nigeria and God bless our leaders and touch their hearts to know that rather than giving 2face a Ferari and a prado jeep that a lot of kids are hungry in this great nation.

Peace out


PS: A performing government does not need to spend money on image laundry, service delivery is an efficient spokesperson.

Sincere 9gerian:
Thank you. I agree with you on the need for a swift justice system. This is a challenge for the present govt. The present situation where prosecution of corrupt persons last for like eternity is UNACCEPTABLE. I believe with continuous pressure, we'll get there.

Meanwhile, I still insist that corruption is decreasing. I'm from Anambra state. In the past, in my state, it was common for the govt to award road contracts, mount sign post at project site, the contractor collects huge sums as mobilization fee and disappear from project site. Some contractors even receive complete payment for job not done or very poorly done. But today, all that has reduced drastically.

The story is the same or similar in many other states.

From the posts so far, most commenters do not agree with me but ironically most of those who do not agree with me cannot OBJECTIVELY disprove my points.

I'm not afraid to stand alone on any issue provided I can confidently and OBJECTIVELY defend my position.

Just to stretch the arguement further, when Buhari and his gangs seized power in the 80's from politicians of the second republic, they told us those politicians were mindlessly corrupt. However, subsequently, Nigerians later discovered that most of the politicians of the second republic, including president Shagari, were POOR CHURCH RATS.

Pastor Ola: With enthronement of the culture of impunity curruption is on astronomical increase in Nigeria. What a pity!!!

Mogidi:

Kasumoto please try having rational argument if you don't agree with the post even though the OP went a great length in buttressing his point.
On one hand you want to be taken as an academic on the other you espouse views without an atom of cursory scrutiny into what the @OP wrote. I've watched you on several occasions join the Yoruba Mafia to promote your conspicuous bias for national disgrace aka Tinubu.
And before you go fire your arrows about me being a paid agent, it would be nice if you and your posse of unmitigated miscreant tell us whose payroll you're on.

A bit of research would have saved your hand-wringing angst against the above. Go read the reasons given, though I doubt you'd bother, better to obfuscate the truth, isn't it?

Katsumoto: If Tinubu is interested in reducing waste, let his party sponsor a bill demanding that NASS spending be reduced by 50% for a start.

They add no value, sleep in NASS, and earn more than the president of the richest nation. Fc.uking ridiculous.

Sincere 9gerian: What can you say about corruption in Nigeria today? Is it reducing or increasing?

The truth about assessing corruption is that it is very SUBJECTIVE, unlike roads, stable power, railways,etc that can be SEEN and TOUCHED. Going by accounts in the media, one would think corruption is increasing. Unfortunately, the media is still reinforcing the age-long PERCEPTION of high level of corruption in the country.

But what are the sources/avenues of corruption in Nigeria?

In my opinion, the MAJOR sources/avenue of corruption in Nigeria, based on the structure of the budget, include:

* from the capital side
1 over-inflated contracts
2 poorly executed or abandoned projects

* from the recurrent expenditure side
1 ghost workers/pensioners
2 security votes
3 ambiguous budget sub-heads

There are other avenues(eg subsidies like fuel subsidy, fertilizer subsidy) but these are the ones that readily comes to mind.

Since we know the MAJOR avenues/sources for corruption we can attempt a slightly more OBJECTIVE assessment of whether corruption is increasing or decreasing in Nigeria by working from the KNOWN to the UNKNOWN

First lets assess if the level of over-inflated contracts is increasing or decreasing. If its increasing, it implies corruption is increasing and if its decreasing, it implies corruption is decreasing. In the last 2yrs, it is difficult not to have noticed the practice at the federal level of publishing the contract sums, name of contractor, location of project, project specification,etc of every project awarded for ALL to see and take notice, and complain of over-inflated contract where such is suspected. In the absence of such complaints from any quarter, it is safe to assume most of the projects awarded in the last 2yrs or so were REASONABLY costed. If that is the case, it is an INDICATOR of reducing corruption. Now the challenge is for such practice to trickle down to the states and local govt level.
http://peoplesdailyng.com/fec-approves-n47-8bn-for-13-road-contracts/
http://thenationonlineng.net/new/news/fed-govt-awards-n28b-contracts/

Next, lets assess the level of project execution in terms of quality and completion in the last few years. If the FG and states are churning out COMPLETED physical projects, of expected quality, it means the funds are indeed WORKING and not entrying private pockets. If the level is increasing, it implies corruption is reducing but if its decreasing (ie more projects are being abandoned or more projects are being poorly executed) it implies corruption is increasing.

For instance, if N20billion was budgeted to complete the Lagos-kano rail line, and when we SEE the Lagos-kano rail line has been completed, it means the N20billion did its WORK, and did not enter private pocket. Again, If N500million was meant to rehabilitate Enugu-Ph road, and we can SEE the work being done and later completed, it means the N500million did its WORK, and did not go into private pocket.

The massive, good QUALITY, projects being completed by federal and state govts nationwide is the MOST IMPORTANT testimony to REDUCTION in corruption in Nigeria.

On the recurrent side of the state and federal budgets, the menace of ghost workers is being tackled frontally. The federal govt for instance, through reforms in the civil service, have so far flushed out a total of 45,000 ghost workers who earned over N100billion had been uncovered from about 251 ministries, directorates and agencies. This singular reform has saved this country about N100billion (more than the annual budget of some states)
http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/thread-830385-1-1.html

Several states have also flushed out thousands of ghost workers in their payroll.

Sadly, on the issue of security votes, not much progress has been made besides isolated media reports(unconfirmed) that governor Rochas Okorocha reduced his security vote by about 70%. The challenge is to pressurise more public officers to give up their bogus security votes.

From all of the above, it is safe and FAIR to conclude that corruption is reducing in Nigeria.

However, this does not mean corruption has been eradicated. There are still several loopholes at particularly the state and local govt level, not exempting the federal govt. Bogus allowances, albeit lawful, should also be drastically reduced.

Therefore, the claim that corruption is increasing in Nigeria is dubious, baseless and fallacious. Corruption can only be increasing in the imagination of some opposition elements and compromised media organisations.

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omenka: The mother of all corruption took place under the watch of the scumbag.

When about 300billion was budgeted for an item and the govt ended up spending over 2trillion on thesame without any suplementary appropriation, what would you say about such a govt??

This govt is the worst there's ever been in terms of fight against corruption. Obj et al performed very poorly but GEJ's goes completely off the charts! That man is inately corrupt! It is either he is stealing or busy pampering known, suspected, and convicted crooks!