Seun:
Why didn’t Jon make any effort to convince Dany to do the right thing? He is the one man that Dany always listens to. He possesses the lord’s tongue and other irresistible weapons of persuasion. Why won’t he use them on Dany? Tyrion was the only person talking to her and she knew he was not totally loyal.

at that point nobody was loyal to Dany. Even she said Jon betrayed her. To me, I believe the only person who truly is loyal to Dany is Greyworm.

At the bolded. Hope you're not talking about a penis_?

Buharifanatic:
All of you saying Dany should give way to Jon snow


Could Jon take the 7 kingdoms on his own


Dany made everything possible, Jon can't come from nowhere and take it


Jon was brought back to get Dany pregnant


If Dany dies let their child rule, no problem, bitter Sweet ending but don't put Jon on that throne


Who knows self, maybe the kingdoms will split back to 7 different kingdoms like it was before aegon the conqueror came and United it


My own is Dany effort shouldn't be wasted, she made it all happen, she worked hard to get to where she is now and deserves something, worst let her child rule

i couldn't agree more with u,Jon doesn't deserve that throne more than Dany, not after everything Dany went tru to reclaim that throne.If their child would rule better

Nnaabros:


You guys need to ease up a bit and stop lambasting him. Gosh! Jon has made so much sacrifices to save his people and his remaining families. He even got killed in the process and was resurrected. For a guy who had died and came back from the dead, I think it's forgivable if he seems rather too careful and sullen.

Jon's interest was never the throne. And he has reiterated that several times. He has achieved what he wanted, protecting his people from the army of the dead and seeing his family members together again and defeating all enemies of their families. Now, he doesn't want to put his family in any further harm.

His battles have been fought and done with. Now he simply follows danny carefully, fulfilling his own end of the bargain. This battle is not his. He's just assisting. Forget the Aegon identity. It's was an agreement he already reached with Danny before he became aware of his true identity. AN AGREEMENT IS AN AGREEMENT. If you ask me, the dude is approaching the matter very maturedly, even if he seems conflicted.

Jon is the hero of this show from day one till now. His seeming present 'dullness' is not stupidity. When you've been through the kind of things he has, the battles he has fought so far, you yourself would mellow down.

It's normal to get pissed off when they turn your favorite character to sh1t. I don't blame the character I blame the writers. then again GOT are masters of manipulators.one season they make you love a certain character that you pray they don't get killed and in another season they make you hate him/her wishing they die and vice versa.
just look at it..
from season 1- 7 we all were like "sansa is dumb "sansa is totally useless" and this and that" suddenly in season 8 we changed chorus to "sansa is smart " "sansa would make a good queen" .

from season 1-7 we all were like " theon is a coward" theon is a betrayal" " theon is useless" then again all of a sudden season 8 we changed chorus to "aww I almost cried when theon was defending bran","theon is brave and a hero" "theon death was very emotional".

season 1-7 , I was like "Tyrion is the most sensible actor on the show ". in season 8 " Tyrion is totally dumb".

from season 1-7, we carry Jon matter for head like "Jon is very humble and wise","jon is the best fighter in the seven kingdoms", "Jon is the rightful heir to the iron throne". boom!! season 8 some people plus me begin vex like " jon is a fool", "jon is so useless in this season", "the producers should just kill him off".

season 8 episode 4 after the death of missandei, everybody was like "dany should burn kings landing to the ground", "dany has been so patient". immediately after episode 5, come and see vexing like "dany must die" "that b1tch don't deserve to rule" "dany is heartless" bla bla bla.

My point: D&.D are hell bent in scattering our head and manipulating our minds. don't you see the way they talk and behave during the show interviews? those guys look like psychos.. don't waste your time trying to defend any character o.

in other news I heard they (D&.D)wrote and directed the last episode. aswear some people will definitely run mad when the show ends.

Emily22:
Is there a war without casualties (civilian deaths)

frankly I've never seen any war without civilian casualty. But what Dany did had nothing to do with casualty dude. It was pure cold blooded murder. Period.

Seun:
Why didn’t Jon make any effort to convince Dany to do the right thing? He is the one man that Dany always listens to. He possesses the lord’s tongue and other irresistible weapons of persuasion. Why won’t he use them on Dany? Tyrion was the only person talking to her and she knew he was not totally loyal.

Because he knows nothing... He just kept chanting "she's my Queen" like a programmed robot

ThothHermes:
It's not love. It's loyalty. The Cleganes are loyal bannermen to the Lannisters.

You're right

Sandor addressed her as "your grace" immediately he sighted them.

He had no personal beef against her, it was just his brother.
No one casted even a second glance at her when she walked past them.

Luckygurl:
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
She already reached an agreement to cease fire when the bell is rung and the gates opened but at that moment she had a flashback to the troubles she's had to deal with from season one and decided to get her full revenge.

At a point I was literally screaming cease fire at the dead of the night as if hoping she would hear me

Dany has Arya and Jon to contend with in the final episode. It didn't go down with them seeing innocents die.

Qyburn
Imagine been killed in a split of second by the man it took you a while to bring back to life.
Hahaha!!! That scene made me Lmao

Sandor gets to avenge his life long scar.

I said sometime Lord varys needed to die. And he did die. He already sent out some letters before he died tho. Let's see how the final episode pans out and who eventually gets to sit on the throne.
I'll like it to be Jon tho. He's the best fit IMHO

"Dany have Jon and Arya to contend" as if those two are match to her,just one single order to her dragon(dracarys) and they both would be history.
I dont know how the writters plan on ending this thing but that dragon and all her exploits make Dany a god,to powerful for others

HenryDion:
Many still expect Dany to be sweet and loving after been spit on the face by Cerci. Kings Landing deserved to burn, my only sadness is if she hadn't destroyed that ugly iron throne in the process.

Most of you hating her loves a so-called benevolent God called Yahweh, who killed even infants and innocent alike just so that his so-called chosen people will inherit the promised land. What a joke!

What am I saying? Dany did what every mortal and God will do, no matter how merciful they had been. My only fear is she dying in the next episode. But if the writers are wise, the series will end with Dany on that throne. She deserves it! Power is not given, it is taken!

If Arya, Jon or that Sansa of a bitch stands in your way, fry their ass.

I love you, Dany. You finally made me proud.

My best episode so far

thumbs up to u bro,u took the words right out of my mouth

Magnifico2000:
Who else thinks Jon snow has become weak? Let's forget the showrunners now because I know some pple will say it's the handiwork of the showriters.

Look at that scene he was alone with Dany after burning varys. He could have just reaffirmed his love for her. Jon could have told her many things to calm her down. Forget the fact that both of you are blood. You had sex with her. The feelings can't just go like that after all you said it yourself you love her.

Jon made it look as if he intentionally told Sansa the secret to betray her but he should have atoned for it immediately by romancing her and giving her all kind of sexual pleasures.

It is so obvious that you are the only man in her life. Just accept your fate that she is your aunty. Both of you can make the world a better place.

I'm just livid right now because I feel desperation made Dany to wreck all those havocs.

Of course everything still boils down to what the showrunners want so it is fine. But let's look at it from another perspective.

Why do most of you on this Jon and Dany's matter think that re-affirmation of love would've made the pains go away? After sex/romance comes reality.

Lsofdk:

Do you really want to compare Arya's action to mad Queen's? Really? Arya didn't kill everyone in River run, she eliminated only the Frey's. Those who plotted and killed her family members. Mad queen eliminated almost the whole populace in King's landing for the crimes of who?

don't mind him. He wants to compare killing the Freys who killed Arya 's family to Daenerys killing millions of families who didn't even do anything to her.

Some people just like many excuses for other people's despicable act(s)

Why did Jon snow tell his men to get back when greyworm started attacking the Lannister army?

lilbest4:
I said this before but they are just by the flying of dragons and other shits. Cersei is a thousand times better than the white headed idiot

Danaerys had to run mad to match Cersei's energy. Cersei hid behind a field of civilians, sipping zobo calmly while Danaerys had to lose her senses before unleashing havoc on King's Landing. It's OK to like Cersei. But even Danaerys' war crimes can't match the evil that is Cersei Lannister.

To those who don't know. John Snow is the reason why everyone is alive to fight for the throne. He was the only one who say what was coming. He fought to protect the seven kingdoms without holding any grudges. So, to some extent, John Snow is the best to rule

GrabHisBalls:
Why do most of you on this Jon and Dany's matter think that re-affirmation of love would've made the pains go away? After sex/romance comes reality.

My dear, haven't you heard of sexual healing? Jon snow could have healed her from the pain of betrayals.

Seun:
Why didn’t Jon make any effort to convince Dany to do the right thing? He is the one man that Dany always listens to. He possesses the lord’s tongue and other irresistible weapons of persuasion. Why won’t he use them on Dany? Tyrion was the only person talking to her and she knew he was not totally loyal.

The show runners have succeeded in making Jon transition as men do over a long period of time. My problem is, the changes I am seeing aren't the kind of changes I was expecting from our beloved Jon. Right now, he can't even make the right decisions 'cause of love. Who said he can't love with his brain? So annoying.

JhyMedex:

Bruh believe me..He shldnt b walking around d way he did after doz two stabs (1st: btw d left ribs. 2nd: lateral abdominal wall) ...

infact the 1st one alone shld av killed him..Prolly give him a pneumohemothorax...The 2nd one may hit d abdominal aorta or sumoda major artery..

Remember still ,the knife was pulled out on both occasions which jst worsens his prognosis...

Bottomline: in d real world dude shldnt av bn able to get up .let alone kill euron n go on to walk to d red keep to meet cersie ...

I thought he was gone there and then. I salute your analysis and your use of medical jargon but even a medical illiterate like me knows he shouldn't be in a fit state to keep walking after that fight, let alone look for Cersei round the Red Keep.

Arya's plot armor in the last episode was legendary. The only other Stark I've seen with an armor that can rival hers is Tony.
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Magnifico2000:

My dear, haven't you heard of sexual healing? Jon snow could have healed her from the pain of betrayals.

There's no such thing. Yes, sex would make you feel good about yourself, but it's only for that moment. Jon could've succeeded in probably kissing her, telling her how much he loves her, and of course, getting her to off her clothes, but after the act, nothing would have changed. Her problem isn't just lack of love/attention. She feels her rule is threatened by Jon's birth and romance won't have changed a thing.

one9ner:
To those who don't know. John Snow is the reason why everyone is alive to fight for the throne. He was the only one who say what was coming. He fought to protect the seven kingdoms without holding any grudges. So, to some extent, John Snow is the best to rule

Jon snow doesn't want to rule, so?

joseff14:

Jon snow doesn't want to rule, so?

Don't worry, he will come around or Arya Stark will rule

GrabHisBalls:
There's no such thing. Yes, sex would make you feel good about yourself, but it's only for that moment. Jon could've succeeded in probably kissing her, telling her how much he loves her, and of course, getting her to off her clothes, but after the act, nothing would have changed. Her problem isn't just lack of love/attention. She feels her rule is threatened by Jon's birth and romance won't have changed a thing.

Yeah yeah.. but she kept reaffirming her live for Jon. She loves Jon. Jon could have controlled her. Jon keeps getting girls that are "powerful/influential" than her. Look at the case of ygritte the wildling bitch. Jon couldn't really tame her. I feel Jon has a soft spot for women. Just imagine someone like khal Drogo or even Tormund in Jon's position, do you think they wouldn't have clipped danys wings?

one9ner:

Don't worry, he will come around or Arya Stark will rule

Arya doesn't look like one who can stay in one place for some time. I doubt if she'll like ruling, even if it waa forced down her throat.

Can y'all just picture a scenario where the Night King won, and rode down to Kings Landing on Viserion, kills everyone and turns them to wights.

Now you question is, would Ser Gregor a.k.a The mountain be turned to a wight? he might just turn the unlikely hero by killing the NK for us all.

What's dead may never die.

After watching episode 6 trailer, i doubt if anyone is a match to Dany. Suddenly, the unsullen multiplied in number, with the Dothrakies

The only way Dany can be killed is if Arya sneaks up on her like the invisible assassin she is.

Many people want Dany dead, the writers might disappoint in other to make the game unpredictable.

The way this series will end will be bitter, for those who want Dany dead. And sweet to folks like I who wants Dany to rule.

Let's see!

geezyk:
Can y'all just picture a scenario where the Night King won, and rode down to Kings Landing on Viserion, kills everyone and turns them to wights.

Now you question is, would Ser Gregor a.k.a The mountain be turned to a wight? he might just turn the unlikely hero by killing the NK for us all.

What's dead may never die.

Gregor wouldn't stand a chance. Does that thing even know what Valyrian steel, dragon glass or fire could do to a wight?

Magnifico2000:

Yeah yeah.. but she kept reaffirming her live for Jon. She loves Jon. Jon could have controlled her. Jon keeps getting girls that are "powerful/influential" than her. Look at the case of ygritte the wildling bitch. Jon couldn't really tame her. I feel Jon has a soft spot for women. Just imagine someone like khal Drogo or even Tormund in Jon's position, do you think they wouldn't have clipped danys wings?

My point is, there's no taming here. If he were already a king and she was acting this way, then I would've bought your idea.

Aystarz:


Gregor wouldn't stand a chance. Does that thing even know what Valyrian steel, dragon glass or fire could do to a wight?

You know he's an undead too, he might just break the head off the NK, except he uses the ice sword on him.

solomonbrown64:


....The Honourable thing cost thousands of innocent lives. It's not as if Aegon hasn't broken honour before, he broke his promise to her after he told Sansa about his parentage. Sansa also broke her promise. So to hell with honour. People do what they think or feel is right.

...... I am sure Aegon saw that honour doesn't count with the way his men were killing men who had laid down their weapons and he could do nothing to stop them. A leader must improvise and sometimes do something out of principle. If that should involve sleeping with his aunt, he should have done it. That's what makes a great leader.

... Anyway, his eyes are now opened and he now knows that humans whether North or South are savages (in the show at least) and it requires a strong and firm leader to handle them, not some honourable, confused man.

When Grey Worm speared that soldier after d bell rang,did anyone notice how he turned and was looking at Jon Snow,when he (Jon) appeared not be participatingbin the massacre?
I almost thought he was gonna spearJon too

geezyk:
You know he's an undead too, he might just break the head off the NK, except he uses the ice sword on him.

Undead wey spend over 10minutes of screen time to defeat the Hound.. that one na undead?

Lef mata my bro. He couldn't touch NK on the Ice-king's worst day.

Emily22:
Is there a war without casualties (civilian deaths)

She was deliberately killing civilians, even after the bell was rung and the soldiers surrendered.

Nothing casual about that.

But i see no reason why Daenerys will do that, its what she had in mind though when she was young, about burning cities down and dothrakis pilaging out of hatred for people that usurped her family.

But then she met Tyrion and Tyrion told her about how game of thrones is played in Westeroos, how you align with different noble houses.

The Greyjoys supports her, Dorne, Eerie, now storms end, The north (a little).


So why the f*ck about people not loving her the writers made her say every time? Far too many noble houses have declared support for her to rule whereas Cersie is alone and she has given middle finger to other noble houses.

What the f*ck did Dany keep yearning about people not loving her? Wtf?

The people do not need to love you, once you are the ruler, you rule over them. They didn't love Cersie either yet she ruled over them.

If you start ruling cut their tax(tax reforms), provide for them, implement good laws and the people will love her. (Margery did something similar)

Even if everyone hears about Jon's legitimacy and he tells the people he doesn't want it, and that he wants Dany to be his queen, their is nothing the people will do than to accept Dany as Queen.

Its just like Nigeria's once coup d'tat, civilians doesn't have any say if they love or hate any coup plotter that becomes the head of state. Citizens have to fall in line.

So the crap about nobody loving Dany is a crap, heck she can import Daario if Snow refuses to get down with her.

D & D just turned the movie upside down.

They ruined her character big time.

richie10k:
When Grey Worm speared that soldier after d bell rang,did anyone notice how he turned and was looking at Jon Snow,when he (Jon) appeared not be participatingbin the massacre?
I almost thought he was gonna spearJon too

....Lol, I found it funny when Tyrion was like, , Call off your men when the bell rings. ....I was like --- what men? Aegon doesn't command the army of Dany, Jorah did and he is gone. Which was why no one listened to him when he was screaming stop, stop. Dude looked so lost and shocked at the savagery of humans.

Magnifico2000:
Why did Jon snow tell his men to get back when greyworm started attacking the Lannister army?

Because they have already surrendered.

He's a f*cking noble moral idiot, something that got Eddard killed.

Reading all the comments here shouting dany must die in the next episode lol shey you guys think say na Yoruba film.

I'm even expecting something more shocking in the next episode like all the starks dying or at least arya and sansa yeah you heard me dracarys their father.

Yeah and in regards to dany's action, like come on what were you guys expecting she's been pushed beyond limits of limit sef.

She lost almost everything to things that wasn't even worth it and what does she get in return betrayal left and right, even from the Jon snow ode.

At that moment she was just staring at the whole thing that had cost her almost everything she snapped mehn. Trust a woman to act from emotional feelings when pushed to the edge.

There are no villains in GOT even down to the NK and cersei so no matter how bad they paint her suddenly.....