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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by takedat(m): 9:40am On Apr 02, 2013
Maxymilliano: One would have expected that with the clout that names like Gen Buhari, Nasir El-Rufai, IBB, AbdulSalam Abubakar, Adamu Ciroma, Tanko Yakassai, Lawan Kaita, Nuhu Ribdu, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi & other Leaders from Northern Nigeria control there, they would have by now been able to use the cult-like follower-ship they enjoy to open communication channels with Boko Haram, Ansaru and other militant groups in that region towards having these group enter into direct peace talks with the Federal Government of Nigeria just as names like Alamieyeseigha, ­ J.P. Clark, etc did with the Niger Delta crises that eventually led to the "Niger Delta Amnesty Programme" and of course brokered under a President from Northern Nigeria.

So why can't these Northern Leaders reciprocate this gesture by brokering possible peace in the North under the leadership of a President from the South-south?

Why did Gen Buhari quickly wash his hands off the possibility of representing the country in talks with Boko Haram?

How come these leaders from the North only seem eager to be "Leaders" when:

1. seeking electoral positions;

2. seeking for the Presidency to be returned to them;

3. they want to threaten that "the country would become ungovernable if they don't achieve the above but shy away from the basic responsibility of having their people live in peace and be saved from imminent extinction?

And please don’t tell me – “but they are not the President and Chief Security Officer of the country” because Alamieyeseigha and J.P Clark, and others were also not Presidents as well when they brokered the Niger Delta Peace talks.

Why can't GEJ do the same with his deputy, what Yaradua did with him? After all, we all knew how Yaradua gave him all the necessary backing before he was able to broker the amnesty deal with the help of Clark, Alams and co, or is the president wary of his deputy's ambition if given such task?

It is not true that the government does not have open communication channels with BH. Remember Dasuki, the NSA once claimed to have contacted some BH leaders and we've also read of several surreptitious move by government for a dialogue with BH.

If you were Buhari, so you would have accepted the role of a mediator when prior to that some Nigerians had a widely held, erroneous ideas about him being their kingpin courtesy of the falsehood peddlers in PDP. Even a dumb Jona wouldn't fall for the bait!

The Northern politicians and the FG are all using the lives of innocent Nigerians in the north "to play kite."

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by vanstanzy(m): 9:49am On Apr 02, 2013
Now see why i say this man, Buhari, is a mistake. Can Nigerians afford to make his like the President

NIGERIANS THINK WISELY, PLEASE! undecided undecided

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Ngwakwe: 9:49am On Apr 02, 2013
Why are you putting up the analysis that Buhari never intended just to save face on your presumed Messiah cum Electoral Terrorism Initiator"

I have no hatred for any section of the country but am disgusted on any presumed imbalance, politicization, and bias assessment of the COMMON TRUTH.

~Bluetooth:


Y'all are just driven by your hatred for the northerners and we know that and the US government knows better else Buhari would have been tagged a terrorist,boko haram blacklisted as a terrorist organization and Nigeria,a terror state.

So stop tripping and get real dummy !

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 9:54am On Apr 02, 2013
Buhari refused to mediate on behalf of Boko haram, he was tagged their sponsor. If he had mediated, he will still be tagged a boko haramist. Meanwhile, some boko haram members were found in the houses of some PDP members in the north, yet Buhari gets the blame! and the blame still continues......

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 9:56am On Apr 02, 2013
Ngwakwe: Why are you putting up the analysis that Buhari never intended just to save face on your presumed Messiah cum Electoral Terrorism Initiator"

I no hatred
for any section of the country but am disgusted on any presumed imbalance, politicization, and bias assessment of the COMMON TRUTH.


Let me give you a chance despite your shortcoming. . .what is the difference between terrorism and insurgency ? Can't you guys just tell us the difference instead of bitching about his person here ?

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by vanstanzy(m): 9:57am On Apr 02, 2013
"Similarly what we should look at is, how did the Boko Haram start? We know all these. Security is the responsibility of the government.

"It is the responsibility of the Federal Government to know how this thing started and how to go about it. First and foremost, security is the responsibility of the government; they should know how this thing came about."

I strongly feel the bolded above is totally wrong. Security of lives and property is the responsibility of every

citizen, the Federal Government can't be everywhere. Then why does the police and other law enforcement agencies solicit

for useful information from the citizenry? Buhari got it totally wrong. The Northern leaders can help in this issue of

BH by giving useful information to the police and JTF on BH hideouts and identities.


God help us all! undecided undecided undecided

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 10:01am On Apr 02, 2013
vanstanzy: "Similarly what we should look at is, how did the Boko Haram start? We know all these. Security is the responsibility of the government.

"It is the responsibility of the Federal Government to know how this thing started and how to go about it. First and foremost, security is the responsibility of the government; they should know how this thing came about."

I strongly feel the bolded above is totally wrong, security of lives and property is the responsibility of every

citizen, the Federal Government can't be everywhere. Then why does the police and other law enforcement agencies solicit

for useful information from the citizenry? Buhari got it totally wrong. The Northern leaders can help in this issue of

BH by giving useful information to the police and JTF on BH hideouts and identities.


God help us all! undecided undecided undecided

Ode where is it written in the constitution that security is the responsibility of everyone ? Damnit,get a copy of the constitution and look up the functions of the president.

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Ngwakwe: 10:04am On Apr 02, 2013
All Northern Politicians whether in PDP, ANPP CPC or DPP have the same objective and want to use Boko Haram to create impression of instability / insecurity to discredit the present administration.

Buhari himself is "2011 Election Terrorist Initiator" that killed many Youth Corpers and harmless innocent Nigerians.

berem: Buhari refused to mediate on behalf of Boko haram, he was tagged their sponsor. If he had mediated, he will still be tagged a boko haramist. Meanwhile, some boko haram members were found in the houses of some PDP members in the north, yet Buhari gets the blame! and the blame still continues......

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 10:07am On Apr 02, 2013
Federal Government can't be everywhere! like seriously? did someone just say that? only in Nigeria can shiit like this be uttered. smh

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 10:08am On Apr 02, 2013
The gap between Boko Haram and Niger Delta Militant is geometric, I wonder what had infested Buhaari's brain. His comment makes no sense to me
Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 10:14am On Apr 02, 2013
Ngwakwe: All Northern Politicians whether in PDP, ANPP CPC or DPP have the same objective and want to use Boko Haram to create impression of instability / insecurity to discredit the present administration.

Buhari himself is "2011 Election Terrorist Initiator" that killed many Youth Corpers and harmless innocent Nigerians.

it's laughable and silly to say Buhari was responsible for the death of those who died during the election in the north. you should shift the blame to the clueless government who has failed woefully in securing lives of those innocent corpers in such a volatile area.

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 10:22am On Apr 02, 2013
Ngwakwe: All Northern Politicians whether in PDP, ANPP CPC or DPP have the same objective and want to use Boko Haram to create impression of instability / insecurity to discredit the present administration.

Buhari himself is "2011 Election Terrorist Initiator" that killed many Youth Corpers and harmless innocent Nigerians.


Try to argue for LOGICAL sake dude and stop displaying this your fallacy of the brain here.

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by honeric01(m): 10:27am On Apr 02, 2013
~Bluetooth:


The problem with most of you is that you are products of a failed educational system and have also failed to improve yourselves.



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militant


Buhari is talking about the underlying factor that motivates both terrorism and miltancy in Nigeria.they are product of a failed government and failed economy.

Well some people try to justify militancy simply because they don't attack fellow Nigerians but these same groups attack,kidnap, kill foreigners and sabotage government installations .Don't they cause havoc one way or the other ? Hamas used to be a militant group but when it couldn't get what it wanted,it started attacking Israel.

Before amnesty was granted,Rivers state was almost grounded by the activities of militant groups who launched attacks,kidnap and killed people at will.The context of militancy and terrorism encompass an ideology which involved a group of persons agitating for control of a part of the nation involving arms struggle solely to OVERTHROW the central government by instigating widespread acts of violence among the populace.

Surprisingly,the Niger delta militants have better weaponry and more sophisticated than boko haram yet we assumed that they were the lesser of two evils simply because they are killing foreigners and sabotaging Nigeria economy.

most NIgerians don't even understand english, less comprehend/interpret. Ask them what exactly did mend achieve? All the bombings they carried out, were they killing ants or humans? The soildiers they killed they're not humans? The people that died in the oct1st bombing are not humans? Those that got kidnapped, raped and murdered are not humans too abi? All of sudden, mend is no longer evil because they're not northerners?

The same people sponsoring mend are not different from those sponsoring bokoharam, they're all in the same party called pdp.

ONLY THOSE WITH A BRAIN CAN FIGURE THIS OUT!
After all the killing, bombings, raping and kidnapping, how has this helped an average ND citizen?

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Ngwakwe: 10:29am On Apr 02, 2013
Can you see how fast RAILA ODINGA conceded and accepted Kenya's Supreme Court judgement that pronounced Uhuru Kenyatta President to avert the catastrophe that has already started in Kenya by his supporters last week?

berem: it's laughable and silly to say Buhari was responsible for the death of those who died during the election in the north. you should shift the blame to the clueless government who has failed woefully in securing lives of those innocent corpers in such a volatile area.

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by jerusalem101: 10:39am On Apr 02, 2013
From all this statement from selfish politicians like buhari u will see that pastor bakare wasn't lying when he said that most of the critics of this administration are seeking power for their selfish aims not for the interest of Nigeria in his interview on channelstv, how can a man like Buhari makes such a blind comparism?
Niger delta militants we all know were fighting against the injustice shown to them after the destruction of their land for oil but the money derived from the oil can't be use 2 develop their land,had Buhari ever been 2 a typical south south community?
While boko haram is fighting an ideological war 4 the sake of their God trying to force others into their religion in a free nation like ours n killing innocent people in the name of religion.. what kind of dirty comparism is that all this 4 power not 4 anything.

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 10:40am On Apr 02, 2013
honeric01:

most NIgerians don't even understand english, less comprehend/interpret. Ask them what exactly did mend achieve? All the bombings they carried out, were they killing ants or humans? The soildiers they killed they're not humans? The people that died in the oct1st bombing are not humans? Those that got kidnapped, raped and murdered are not humans too abi? All of sudden, mend is no longer evil because they're not northerners?

The same people sponsoring mend are not different from those sponsoring bokoharam, they're all in the same party called pdp.

ONLY THOSE WITH A BRAIN CAN FIGURE THIS OUT!
After all the killing, bombings, raping and kidnapping, how has this helped an average ND citizen?

Its so unfortunate that people get killed and some people decide to tribalise it.Militants kill foreigners,Boko Haram kill Nigerians.what difference does it make ?

Still waiting for who to tell us the difference between insurgency and terrorism though. grin

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 10:43am On Apr 02, 2013
Ngwakwe: Can you see how fast RAILA ODINGA conceded and accepted Kenya's Supreme Court judgement that pronounced Uhuru Kenyatta President to avert the catastrophe that has already started in Kenya by his supporters last week?

do you expect Buhari to do the same in a Nigerian failed Judiciary system? If Buhari had accepted the court judgement, would it have stopped boko haram from throwing bombs?

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 10:47am On Apr 02, 2013
Would d heavens fall if Buhari had said dat "d boko haram insurgence is a national problem that requires all hands on deck to solve it" ?
1960 men in 2013, how do u expect them to function properly? It is dissappointing dat many youths follow nd sing praises of men like ds. Buhari nd GEJ shall continue to progress in error as long as sentiment cloud our reason.To narrow the 2015 election to these two men shows we ar out of options.
Boko haram is a creation of d long years of neglect of northern Nig by their elites . The elites are realising ds fact bt instead of tackling d matter head-on, have shifted d blame(as usual) to the F.G via amnesty.
No need to cry over spilt milk, i foresee a French-like revolution in d north. The ruling class will tumble down at d end .

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by eastOFwest(m): 10:50am On Apr 02, 2013
take dat: Rebellion grows from the outskirts of responsibility. Terrorism, militancy, kidnapping and other menace bedevilling the country can all be attributed to failure of the state.

The state has been failing for decades and this has led to the rise of terrorism, militancy, kidnapping and various other ills.

But to equate the wanton killing of hundreds of innocent people in places of worship to bombing of pipelines and seizing of oil fields beggars belief.

He should retract or clarify that statement.

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by victorD3: 10:54am On Apr 02, 2013
WAIT! Boko is beginning to have a face.

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by ezedolar: 10:55am On Apr 02, 2013
I am sorry to say this but is a stupid man

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by eastOFwest(m): 10:57am On Apr 02, 2013
~Bluetooth:


Its so unfortunate that people get killed and some people decide to tribalise it.Militants kill foreigners,Boko Haram kill Nigerians.what difference does it make ?

Still waiting for who to tell us the difference between insurgency and terrorism though. grin

I can understand the Palestinian cause, Taliban and Al Qaeda. But what is Boko Haram fighting for? Their targets always seem to come from a certain part of the country and you think it's not tribal?
Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 10:58am On Apr 02, 2013
eastOFwest:

The state has been failing for decades and this has led to the rise of terrorism, militancy, kidnapping and various other ills.

But to equate the wanton killing of hundreds of innocent people in places of worship to bombing of pipelines and seizing of oil fields beggars belief.

He should retract or clarify that statement.

So those foreigners that get killed don't have rights to life too ? Smh
Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Ngwakwe: 10:59am On Apr 02, 2013
The truth is that, it was never the Culture of the Niger Delta Militants to kill foreigners rather to collect ransom on their victims' behalf. While Boko Boys and Girls take pleasure in shedding innocent blood for religious/political ideologies' sake.

99% of people captured by militant are sure to come back alive and reunite with their families while the same cannot be said of Boko Boys and Girls.

~Bluetooth:


Its so unfortunate that people get killed and some people decide to tribalise it.Militants kill foreigners,Boko Haram kill Nigerians.what difference does it make ?

Still waiting for who to tell us the difference between insurgency and terrorism though. grin
Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Nobody: 10:59am On Apr 02, 2013
eastOFwest:

I can understand the Palestinian cause, Taliban and Al Qaeda. But what is Boko Haram fighting for? Their targets always seem to come from a certain part of the country and you think it's not tribal?

They want to islamize northern Nigeria and its the duty of the central government to stop them !
Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by mike404(m): 11:00am On Apr 02, 2013
berem: Buhari don fall my hand! No one in his right senses should compare Boko Haram to Niger Delta Militancy. NEVER!
Really shocked
Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by ochukoccna: 11:02am On Apr 02, 2013
Many of us fail to see beyond the politicization of the BH crises embarassed embarassed
Personally I believe some northern politicians funded /are funding the sect [more like America funded Afghanistan mujahideens to resist the Soviets invasion] but have long lost control
Many do not know Osama Bin Laden was once an American ally and Al Qaeda came to life when he went AWOL
However America while was able to cripple this incubus and kill Osama because it is a sovereign nation, [b]Al Qaeda was able to spawn genealogies because it is an pseudo religious ideology of Islamic theocracy not an outright armed economic insurrection against the state which MEND is
How come many Moslems while admitting they do not subscribe to the brand of Osama's Islam shy away from out rightly condemning him?
How come Osama Bin Laden is an underground cult hero shocked shocked shocked in the eyes of many a Moslem?
How come Al Qaeda type groups are still carrying out guerilla warfare in the face of the overwhelming superior fire power of the French backed Malian forces?
Why would the pant bomber Mutallab [a UK educated graduate shocked shocked shocked] turn his back on his privileged background [as Osama Bin Laden did too] and venture to be a suicide bomber?
We can keep blaming politics for BH without failing to note Arab nations horrors long associated with militant Islam is in bed with us
Till date Russia is still yet to subdue Islamic Checheyan rebels
How many understand that misguided Islamic theocracy is behind the Al Qaeda's of this world?[/b] sad sad

Ebele Jonathan is too weak and blinded by his 2015 ambition to bring the various Nigerian ethnic nationalities to the round table for us to renegotiate our cooperate existence as a nation
We can keep blaming politics for BH without failing to note Arab horrors long associated with militant Islam is in bed with us
Or that a disastrous religious civil war just a bus ride away from Borno, Kano or any of the Nigerian hotbeds of Islam

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by mekaboy(m): 11:04am On Apr 02, 2013
honeric01:

most NIgerians don't even understand english, less comprehend/interpret. Ask them what exactly did mend achieve? All the bombings they carried out, were they killing ants or humans? The soildiers they killed they're not humans? The people that died in the oct1st bombing are not humans? Those that got kidnapped, raped and murdered are not humans too abi? All of sudden, mend is no longer evil because they're not northerners?

The same people sponsoring mend are not different from those sponsoring bokoharam, they're all in the same party called pdp.

ONLY THOSE WITH A BRAIN CAN FIGURE THIS OUT!
After all the killing, bombings, raping and kidnapping, how has this helped an average ND citizen?

My friend stop dreaming. Boko haram is. Religious, govt will not create a ministry for any religious organization.

Boko haram is also branch of major terrorist organization in the world.

No country accommodates terrorist or makes their country a safe heaven for terrorists.

Will u like to hear that northern nigeria is akaida headquaters in africa? Where they store arms and plan world attacks.?

Yes northerners are part of boko haram, but boko haram is bigger than just northern Nigeria, it goes way up to iraq, Pakistan, mali etc.

If we pardon them in Nigeria, one day u will see a missile released from northern nigeria and hit another country. Then we will be at war for nothing.

Nigerians have seen what the oil companies have done to the ND region and we support their fight. What did govt do to Boko haram? The Niger delta militants gave warnings before they acted. Soldiers where killed in combat, they don't just go and blow up police stations and kill soldiers on check point.

If this is the mentality of Northerners, it will be very risky for such to rule nigeria.

People who want a network of terrorists to be pardoned and funded by nigerian govt.

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Demdem(m): 11:07am On Apr 02, 2013
The General is right on point. I have always stated this. Both evil groups are killers and murderers. MEND killed Tens, evil boko is currently killing hundreds.
Both groups are bloodsuckers.

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by mike404(m): 11:08am On Apr 02, 2013
Have you guys forgotten that he Buhari was appointed by boko boys as their spokesperson So don't blame him cuz he's doing his job
Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by iichidodo: 11:08am On Apr 02, 2013
Buhari is a craze man for uttering such bull-crap, Sometimes i wonder how these people sleep at night. The MEND militants where fighting for a cause we are all know to be humane even though their methods weren't but we knew this guys and their ringleaders. Bokoharam is something else from the pit of hell,Their ideology is whack, their methods psychopathic and their sponsors faceless.Like i said before boko-haram was created by the Northern hegemony to cast a bad light on Gej's Government.The northern elites after years of oppressing their own people have suddenly realized their folly now that their creation(boko) has ran amok.Boko haram is a regional problem and thus the blame should not be on gej alone but on the Northern elite and aristocracy; Buhari inclusive. Chikena

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Re: Buhari - No Difference Between Boko Haram And Niger Delta Militants by Demdem(m): 11:10am On Apr 02, 2013
berem: Buhari don fall my hand! No one in his right senses should compare Boko Haram to Niger Delta Militancy. NEVER!

What ffucking militancy? Those fools killed strictly to enrich themselves.

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