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Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by MiloRambaldi(m): 6:47pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
Gamji007: The good for nothing CAN president is out of hibernation. Oh pls. The solution to BH is state policing and true federalism, not Amnesty largesse. State Policing will immediately localize this problem and force the currently passive indigenes of the affected states to rise up from their slumber and confront their brothers to stop destroying their locality. Only a dullard would think Islamists can be bought. That they easily kill themselves in suicide attacks shows it's not about material things - it's a religious thing. 1 Like |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by MiloRambaldi(m): 6:50pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
The North rushed to implement Sharia to spite Obj at the time. Now it's come back to bite them. BH, seeking the islamisation of Nigeria is the next logical thing. Amnesty won't solve jack. Just waste of scarce resources. 1 Like |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by blaqoracle: 7:58pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
Gamji007: The good for nothing CAN president is out of hibernation.don't mind the repentant pick pocket,called oritsejafor who was a beneficiary of amnesty in the past. the same man is the one that always move around with an anvalanch of security personnel. if he is c man of god, he should move around freely like the ordinary man, afterall, jesus never had an armed guard. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by MiloRambaldi(m): 8:11pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
blaqoracle: don't mind the repentant pick pocket,called oritsejafor who was a beneficiary of amnesty in the past. the same man is the one that always move around with an anvalanch of security personnel. if he is c man of god, he should move around freely like the ordinary man, afterall, jesus never had an armed guard. And wasn't Jesus killed? Ur point? You want him dead, don't you? CAN is useless, but the Orits dude is right. Those asking for amnesty for BH should have their heads examined. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by dederocs(m): 8:23pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
Gamji007:Stop talking nonsense...are you planing of living forever? Abi no be your mates dey frontlines.its sad you can not see beyond your nose. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by Nobody: 8:24pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
For those who are crying about the amnesty, clean your tears. Amnesty will never work for Boko Haram. They will surely disappoint the North. Jonathan will come out of it stronger. Do you know why? The Jihardists thirst for innocent blood can never be quenched by the so called amnesty. 2 Likes |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by dederocs(m): 8:28pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
About 40million unemployed youths calmly watching for the outcome. Will criminality and murder be glorified in Nigeria a fifth time? So many gangs will choose the way of anarchy to seek relevance and riches from the weak state called Nigeria. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by masterpiece123: 8:42pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
Gamji007: The good for nothing CAN president is out of hibernation.. You are a fool for making that statement, if ur family is one of the victim dat died you wont make such stupid words from ur dirty mouth. Mumu |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by babbangoni: 8:58pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
okosodo: Any beast that supports the nonsense they call amnesty should dieSo okosodo, I believe that you are one among Boko haram because many criminals that were caught on the place of bombing were not muslims.Muslims and christians of north only suffer this criminality. Boko haram was created only for a purpose that only those who initiated it know the goal. Do you know what injustice is going on in the North.Muslims suffer much about this phenomenon which shows that this act is commited by inconcious guys like you who followed western wish to see Nigeria at the backwaed of nations. Many of bombings were done by non muslims. where is the invisible hand? |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by Nobody: 8:58pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
Gamji007: The good for nothing CAN president is out of hibernation.peace without justice |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by MiloRambaldi(m): 9:15pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
babbangoni: So okosodo, I believe that you are one among Boko haram because many criminals that were caught on the place of bombing were not muslims.Muslims and christians of north only suffer this criminality. Boko haram was created only for a purpose that only those who initiated it know the goal. Do you know what injustice is going on in the North.Muslims suffer much about this phenomenon which shows that this act is commited by inconcious guys like you who followed western wish to see Nigeria at the backwaed of nations. Many of bombings were done by non muslims. where is the invisible hand? Oh pls, spare us the propaganda. Google videos of BH claiming responsibility for bombings and come back and truthfully say they are non-Muslims. Especially watch the Thisday Abuja bombing video. You'd rather ignore the clear statements made by BH on their agenda and believe what u want. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by Nobody: 9:18pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
It is pure wickedness to ask for amnesty for boko haram. The president should ask the USA to deploy drones all over northern Nigeria. Boko Haram should be offered amnesty only if they can raise back to life all the innocent souls they have sent to the after life. The best treatment for boko haram is the Israeli style treatment. If you kill one Israeli, get ready for disaster because they will hit back very hard. Amnesty will not bring peace and there is nothing like absolute peace. people that shield the boko haram are also boko haram and should be sent to the fires of hell to meet their father the devil. Since boko haram say they want to die, all military arsenal should be deployed to help them die; there's more than enough room in hell to take all the boko haram members, their sympathizers and sponsors. The devil your father is waiting to give you all a big hug in hell as you all roast together forever. 1 Like |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by chosen2013: 10:07pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
if boko haram escape their evil work on earth,they can't escape from God judgement.basterd people. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by PENMIGHT(m): 10:27pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
The Federal Govt has displayed the highest level of insensitivity , hypocrisy, inconsistency, and utmost injustice by the planned amnesty. When there are two evils, you go for the lesser of the evils. The evils in acheiving a temporary, picturesque peace by granting amnesty to BH is much more than facing the challenge head-long and uproot this scourge no matter the cost in terms of human,physical and monetary needs. History has a way of repeating itself! And it's high time we profered an efficate solution to the rising state of militancy, agitation and terrorism in Nigeria by setting a firm precedence. The militants just killed 13 policemen! Hmn...Amnesty,true amnesty at work! Amnesty to Boko Haram means the following- (1) The FG has always known the BH,their sponsors and they have always used them until 'the going gets awry' and BH became an outcast.- an activitism turned terrorism! (2) The FG is only paying lip service to security all this while to siphon the votes cos no sane president will go against the advise of the security chiefs on this. It's spiteful and morale-dampnening to the security forces. Galant men lost forever...just like that? (3) The FG is giving its acceptance of the Islam as practiced by Boko Haram as being the image of Islam and that is injustice to Muslims(dead in the hands of BH and living) and Islam. (4) The amnesty closes book on justice for those wrongly killed. That turns the FG to an unjust govt that will be hated by the generations of those who will wait without success to get justice but can only vent their anger in the future against Nig. Too bad for Nig to witness cycle of generational vengeance. (5) The land has been desecrated! Soiled with the blood of the innocent and weak ones. God can only visit us more with His anger. Amnesty is not in the book of God; forgiveness bourne out of fairness and justice is. (6) Lastly the AMNESTY will fail, the FG will be out of options and that is a justification for Internation forces who ve always shown vested interest in Nig to disintegrate us and ursurp our power. Politics wise , I am not that insightful but these amongst others are sheer wisperings from my little heart. Just my opinions... |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by Nobody: 10:35pm On Apr 07, 2013 |
mekaboy: Yeah, Emeka, just make sure you and your fellow Christians head up North and go fight your religious battles against your similarly crazed Muslims. Make una no miss road o.... u get it.... Christian East v Muslim North. Just try to keep it that way. Leave other sides out of it this time around. Thanks in advance. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by ak47mann(m): 1:47am On Apr 08, 2013 |
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Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by duen23(m): 2:05am On Apr 08, 2013 |
With the majority of comments here supporting a deal for amnesty, it's quite obvious to see why Nigeria is in the state it is today. Questions like, 'If you are not for amnesty, propose a solution to the BH crisis' are plain silly. We have one of the worst intelligence agencies in the world so naturally, the solution is to give children and women murderers a pass instead of making anything work in this country. There is a reason the United States doesn't negotiate with terrorist. It's because once you bow to the demands of a terrorist group, what's to stop you from bowing to the demands of another when you've already set the precedent? In Nigeria, this question is even more pertinent. You have people who take up arms against the state being hugely rewarded. If a group springs up tomorrow and kills enough people simply because they don't lilke people who wear white, will people say, 'though it's unreasonable, it's the only solution so let's give them amnesty?' |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by Ken4Christ: 3:36am On Apr 08, 2013 |
UncleJJ: Most of the so called intelligent guys here a merely echoing words they heard others speak or read. Why do we pretend not to know the prime target of the BOKO HARAN wickedness. How many mosques have bombed in all the attacks carried out so far? The prime targets are simply Christians and security personnel. Some of the Muslims fell victim accidentally. You cannot tell me that Muslims were killed inside the church buildings they bombed. But if the bomb is in a public place, anyone could fall victim. Why didn't they throw the last bomb in Kano at any Hausa's dominated trade center? The Muslims that fell victim during the last bombing at Sabo Gari bus park were probably those selling carrot or sugar cane at the park. Travelers in luxury bus park are usually predominantly Christians and more specifically Igbos. If you people push us to the wall, we will fight back. It happened once when I was a student in ABU in the late 90's. It was as a result of a student union election. A committed Christian student won the election. The counting of the votes had not even ended before an information reached us that the Muslims are preparing their weapons inside their mosque to attack the Christians on Campus. They said, they will not allow a Christian to be student union leader. As soon as the information got to us, for the first time all the Christians said we are not running. Enough is enough. The fight started at about 10 pm till 6 am. At the end, the Christians had the upper hand. Ever since, the school has had relative peace for over two decades. Before then, there was no year the Muslims will not carry out one form of hostility or the other against Christians. So, let's stop deceiving ourselves that there is no religious dimension to the issue. Do not mistake our quietness for weakness. Someone is insisting we should offer solution. My suggestions are; 1. The Federal govt should request help from intelligence agencies from other countries like American to assist in dealing with BOKO HARAN. This is a long term solution but it will work out on the long run. Our security personnel are incapable of dealing with the issue. 2. The Nigerian custom should be overhauled. The arms used are passing through the borders unhindered. Either the present officers in charge are compromising or are not committed to their duty. They can only detect those carrying rice but will never see those carrying bombs. What about the 13 containers of arms that was reportedly seen at the Nigeria borders about 2 years ago just before this crises stared? The owners claimed it was meant for another country. Nothing was heard about those containers thereafter. May be that is what the BOKO HARAN are using. Our security personnel are very corrupt. If they are not, they would not have released those containers. I am convinced the containers belong to those sponsoring BOKO HARAN because it happened just before they stated their attacks. So the federal govt should overhaul the customs 3. Death penalty should be prescribed for anyone found guilty or aiding the group. 4. A state of emergency should be declared in the states most affected. Soldiers should be allowed to do a house to house search in those cities. 5. Worship centers should be allowed to recruit their own armed securities. 6. The police should be armed with more sophisticated weapons. 7. Those already arrested in connections with the group should be tortured until they reveal vital information about the group. 8. The last option if others fail is ask all Christians and southerners to relocate to the south after which we should raise the motion to separate from the North. If we all have one voice for this cause, it will succeed. Even the Bible says, Can two walk together, except they be agreed? (Amos 3:3). We may still have our own crises in the south, but it will be manageable. |
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Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by Royalprestidge(m): 8:20am On Apr 08, 2013 |
solution to bokoharam menance can ne found if answer can be given to these question 1. who are the bokoharam? religious fanatic or political dictatorship? 2. what is it that they want in the first place? religious reward or freedom or political reward 3. Can amnesty be granted to unknown people or faceless people? 4. on what basis is the amnesty to bk based? politics, identification and readiness for dialogue or what |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by MiloRambaldi(m): 9:29am On Apr 08, 2013 |
Royalprestidge: solution to bokoharam menance can ne found if answer can be given to these question Here are some answers: 1. who are the bokoharam? religious fanatic or political dictatorship?BH is clearly religious, seeking to Islamize Nigeria. That's their stated aim. The only political angle to it is that the North have largely refused to curtail their activities as the elites there see BH as a means to regain political relevance. It's why there's been no real opposition to BH there and the Northern politicians oppose State Police because they don't want to shoulder the responsibility of dealing with BH, when clearly they are the only ones who can. 2. what is it that they want in the first place? religious reward or freedom or political rewardIslamization of Nigeria, which is both a religious and political thing. "We will consider negotiation only when we have brought the government to their knees," the spokesman, Abu Qaqa, said. "Once we see that things are being done according to the dictates of Allah, and our members are released [from prison], we will only put aside our arms – but we will not lay them down. You don't put down your arms in Islam, you only put them aside." - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/27/boko-haram-nigeria-sharia-law 3. Can amnesty be granted to unknown people or faceless people?No. And amnesty won't work because of their demands. Only way amnesty might remotely work is if the Northern elites get a good political offer, then they'll attack and attempt to vanquish their BH brothers- something they should have done since if they valued human lives. The question here is whether GEJ and the rest of the country would yield to this blood blackmail, also whether the Northern elites are united enough to agree- answer to both today is NO. 4. on what basis is the amnesty to bk based? politics, identification and readiness for dialogue or whatAnd this is the key question. There's no real basis for amnesty. Unlike the ND militancy, where the request was for development of the ND, the BH request is not remotely sensible. It attacks the Constitution and the core of the basis for the Nigeria nation- freedom. What can gov't offer them - 'Lay your arms and we'll think about imposing national Sharia laws'? The best the gov't can do is tell them to drop arms and those who have not committed murder/mass murder will be given soft landing- reduced sentence. The murderers should be hounded and taken out for good. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by Gamji007: 11:24am On Apr 08, 2013 |
dbride: Would GEJ consider amnesty if he doesn't know them? Please use your brains and connect all the dots. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by Gamji007: 11:28am On Apr 08, 2013 |
dbride: It so clear that many like you don't know what amnesty means. You all think amnesty is about fixing salaries for terrorist. I'm not a teacher, so I ll advice you go and look up the real meaning of amnesty. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by Gamji007: 11:34am On Apr 08, 2013 |
jincheng101:When I say many faces, I mean faceless abi? Mtcheeew! |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by Jamisco: 11:37am On Apr 08, 2013 |
and you think with your foolish idea that granting amnesty would bring peace abi. these people are fighting jihad and you cannot bribe somebody to stop preaching his religion. this is the way of spreading Islam through violent, please keep your mouth shut if you dont know Islam. GEJ will end up financing jihad if he grant anything to these terrorists. further more, let me ask you, what will happen to christians that their properties were burnt, churches destroyed and lives lost, what will GEJ going to do for them. this amnesty thing is cracy, rewarding people that kills innocent victims for their so helpless god that need people to protect him Gamji007: The good for nothing CAN president is out of hibernation. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by MiloRambaldi(m): 4:29pm On Apr 08, 2013 |
Gamji007: It's the Northern elites - El Rufai, Emirs, Buhari, Turai, etc- that have been at the forefront peddling amnesty. By your logic, these ones know who BH top dogs are. |
Re: Amnesty For Boko Haram Is Wickedness - Oritsejafor by TheAcolyte(m): 5:10pm On Apr 08, 2013 |
The problem is that the North has always gotten away with violence. To allow them not only get away with these most gruesome atrocities but also reward them will spell the end of Nigeria; they will come back with even worse violence. If amnesty be the only solution to the boko haram problem then let the bombs continue to go off. They and their sponsors must be fought even to the death. |
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