tobechi74: Does it say we should give to the pastor? Or to the church?

baynix:

Who Owns The Church?? Dnt Tell Me It's God oo!!

jacobscros: Read those verses and still come and argue....

DrummaBoy: ^^^Hello Pastor Kun. Will you pls reply the email I sent to you.

Goshen360:

The lies of tithe is further exposed when I further looked into some words meanings @ those who said Apostles Paul by 'inference' taught tithe to Christians even without using the word 'tithe'; they are just being dishonest and word meanings proves that. Before I return again fully, lemme drop this here and if it doesn't shut their tithe mouths forever,

Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 2 Corinthians 9:7, KJV

Now, we all know what grudgingly means right.....abi make I still do word study ni? Now, what is the 'necessity' aspect of this instruction? As usual, taking you through word blabla, if you like, hate me...but it will help you.

It is the Greek word, anagkē and means,

1) necessity, imposed either by the circumstances, or by law of duty regarding to one's advantage, custom, argument
2) calamity, distress, straits.

From here, Strong's concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G318&t=KJV

So we know it's using 'necessity' by the first meaning. Take that meaning and key into the text and it will open your eyes to clearer understanding. Here is it,

Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of imposed either by the circumstances, or by law of duty regarding to one's advantage, custom, argument: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

Now, if the law of Moses or of tithing was imposed to the national Israel or given to them as a law....of duty to one's (their) advantage or by custom or argument, whatever it is and this Christians giving instructions says our giving should be by what is purposed in the heart and NOT by imposed either by the circumstances, or by law of duty regarding to one's advantage, custom, argument (that is, from the word meaning of 'necessity'); it is very clear that Christian giving negates and is contrary to Israel's way of tithing which is\was 'imposed...by law...'.

funmi4: Matthew 23 :23 gives a clearer knowledge of tithing from CHRIST himself

funmi4: Matthew 23 :23 gives a clearer knowledge of tithing from CHRIST himself

tobechi74: Does it say we should give to the pastor? Or to the church?

Goshen360: Let's do some word exchange for those who hold onto Matthew 23:23 and see how it reads,

First is Matthew 23:23 in its proper context,

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Now, those who say Christ was talking to the 'New Testament Church or Believers or Apostles', let's insert the aforementioned into the text and see how it reads,





Woe unto you, New Testament Church or Believers and You 12 Apostles, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

That reads good right?

MostHigh:

I thing it would be better renders as follows:

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and PASTORS, you hypocrites! You are collecting tithes. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

Goshen360: I think it would be better renders as follows:

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and PASTORS, you hypocrites! You are collecting tithes. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

garyarnold:

Actually, it would be best if it read:

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and PASTORS, you hypocrites! You are collecting tithes. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without practicing the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.