Lets assume the APC merger works out and come 2015, we have a Buhari / Fashola Ticket.

Question: Would the south-west demographic vote APC?

My brothe, u don't knw SouthWest peaple, they don't vote 4 party they vote 4 peaple and the candidate that others produce will determine who to vote 4. Don't be suprise if u see Labour party or apga making headway in SouthWest if they present credible alternative. One thing is certain pdp will find it difficult onless they change the peaple that represent them in SouthWest.

APC is yet to present a presidential candidate, no need for speculation. But because it is largely controlled by West and North, the top ticket will end in Yoruba/Hausa or Hausa/Yoruba combo. Ibos have expressed non-interest by keeping APGA out of the coalition.

Capital No, he should go and relax. Anyone above 50 should be discourage if we have to move forward in this country.

Did they vote for Atiku 2007? Did they vote for Ribadu 2011? Did they vote for Buhari 2003, 2007, 2011? No. Check their voting pattern at the Presidential polls, its usually PDP. Check it.

tosh_acer: Did they vote for Atiku 2007? Did they vote for Ribadu 2011? Did they vote for Buhari 2003, 2007, 2011? No. Check their voting pattern at the Presidential polls, its usually PDP. Check it.

Yes, that is exactly why I am asking this question. Normally, with ACN having a grip of the SW and CPC having a grip of the north, the APC should coast home quite easily with few more votes from SE and NC. But I strongly doubt that SW will actually vote APC IF a Buhari is the candidate.

By the way, SW only "voted" PDP in 2003 - and not really, cos it was rigged!

seunfly: My brothe, u don't knw SouthWest peaple, they don't vote 4 party they vote 4 peaple and the candidate that others produce will determine who to vote 4. Don't be suprise if u see Labour party or apga making headway in SouthWest if they present credible alternative. One thing is certain pdp will find it difficult onless they change the peaple that represent them in SouthWest.

It's going to be a tough one for ACN in Osun and Ogun. These two states are being governed by the ACN oga at the top in ikoyi and its not going down well with the indigenes. It's not gonna be an easy ride. We all also saw what happened in Ondo. ACN came a distant 3rd! You are correct, the Yorubas don't have herd mentality.

No. This is the reason why the South West won't vote for Buhari;


PTF Projects: The Abacha regime created a parallel government through the Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF) headed by Major General Muhammed Buhari. Nothing else typifies the marginalisation of the Yoruba than the lopsidedness of the projects carried out by the PTF. Figures from PTF Situation Reports (Vol. 2 Dec. 98) show that the PTF carried on as if there was no South West.

Of all the roads rehabilitated by he PTF, only 1984.5 kilometres of roads representing 10.84 per cent were carried out in the South West; from where the bulk of the PTF revenue came since the zone consumes over 60 per cent of refined petroleum products. All the Southern States had 4,440.43 kms or 24 per cent of road rehabilitation as against 13,870.47 kms or 76 per cent in the Northern States zone three comprising the North-West States of Jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, Kebbi, Sokoto and Zamfara had a lion share of 5020 kms or 27.42 per cent because the Fund’s Chairman, Buhari and the military dictator Sani Abacha were from there; zone four comprising the North-East States of Adamawa, Bauchi, Borno, Gombe, Taraba and Yobe picked 23.48 per cent. This is the zone where Salihijo Ahmed, the late Chief Executive of Afri-Project Consortium APC, the sole consultants that supervised all PTF projects came from.

Figures in other sectors were more scandalous. For instance, under the National Health and Educational Rehabilitation Programme (NHERP), the South West had zero allocation in the tertiary programme, while the North picked 100 per cent. In the vocational programme, the South West had zero while the North had 97 per cent. In the primary area, the South-West had zero against 88 per cent for the North and in the secondary area, it was zero for the South-West and 86 per cent for the North.

The health sector is similar. For the Teaching Hospitals, the South-West had zero while the North had 62 per cent. For the Specialist Hospitals, it was zero for the South-West and 71 per cent for the North; in General/State Hospitals the Yoruba had nothing while the North had 56 per cent for health clinics, it was zero for the South-West against the North’s 100 per cent.

Under the food supply summary, the Southwest had 7.26 per cent compared with 83 per cent for the North, Buhari’s zone having 60.54 per cent to itself.

http://www.nigerianmuse.com/20061228122222zg/nigeria-watch/all-about-the-oputa-panel-hrvic/nigeria-has-persecuted-the-yoruba-submission-of-afenifere-to-the-human-rights-violations/

Sai Buhari 2015! Let's go there!

Sunny_bobo: No. This is the reason why the South West won't vote for Buhari;


PTF Projects: The Abacha regime created a parallel government through the Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF) headed by Major General Muhammed Buhari. Nothing else typifies the marginalisation of the Yoruba than the lopsidedness of the projects carried out by the PTF. Figures from PTF Situation Reports (Vol. 2 Dec. 98) show that the PTF carried on as if there was no South West.

Of all the roads rehabilitated by he PTF, only 1984.5 kilometres of roads representing 10.84 per cent were carried out in the South West; from where the bulk of the PTF revenue came since the zone consumes over 60 per cent of refined petroleum products. All the Southern States had 4,440.43 kms or 24 per cent of road rehabilitation as against 13,870.47 kms or 76 per cent in the Northern States zone three comprising the North-West States of Jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, Kebbi, Sokoto and Zamfara had a lion share of 5020 kms or 27.42 per cent because the Fund’s Chairman, Buhari and the military dictator Sani Abacha were from there; zone four comprising the North-East States of Adamawa, Bauchi, Borno, Gombe, Taraba and Yobe picked 23.48 per cent. This is the zone where Salihijo Ahmed, the late Chief Executive of Afri-Project Consortium APC, the sole consultants that supervised all PTF projects came from.

Figures in other sectors were more scandalous. For instance, under the National Health and Educational Rehabilitation Programme (NHERP), the South West had zero allocation in the tertiary programme, while the North picked 100 per cent. In the vocational programme, the South West had zero while the North had 97 per cent. In the primary area, the South-West had zero against 88 per cent for the North and in the secondary area, it was zero for the South-West and 86 per cent for the North.

The health sector is similar. For the Teaching Hospitals, the South-West had zero while the North had 62 per cent. For the Specialist Hospitals, it was zero for the South-West and 71 per cent for the North; in General/State Hospitals the Yoruba had nothing while the North had 56 per cent for health clinics, it was zero for the South-West against the North’s 100 per cent.

Under the food supply summary, the Southwest had 7.26 per cent compared with 83 per cent for the North, Buhari’s zone having 60.54 per cent to itself.

http://www.nigerianmuse.com/20061228122222zg/nigeria-watch/all-about-the-oputa-panel-hrvic/nigeria-has-persecuted-the-yoruba-submission-of-afenifere-to-the-human-rights-violations/

These figures speak volume and it's because of such imbalances that Yoruba does very well in opposition role. We kept up with the opposition even when our own blood was the head for 8yrs. Yoruba has the best of political games in Nigeria. This is so because we distinctly separate regional politics fron National interest. What happens in Yorubaland is intimate and has direct and long lasting effect and therefore we fight it with blood. Our involvement in the center is transient and unpredictable and so we prefer to separate that madness from our region but don't care it's outcome on other regions. Effectively, we come out as the underdog as depicted in these statistics. Over the years, going as far back as 1960, you can see the same pattern in our voting habits. If Awo had gone in as president he would have faced the most pressure and opposition from the West no doubt, but at regional level he was a god.

I believe it is a hereditary habit from our traditional social structure and view of the central Oba in relationship to the local Baale.

you have to know that Goodluck have seize yoruba fund of about 31 billion dollars and not only that he took several banks which had major share holder and hand it over to his people.. and he is pushing ethnics hate against the yorubas in their policy.

gunuvi: Capital No, he should go and relax. Anyone above 50 should be discourage if we have to move forward in this country.

But President Jonathan is above 50, what would you say about this?

Let's not deceive ourselves here, whether anybody likes it or not, Buhari although with impeccable character doesn't have mass appeal outside the north, will the SW vote for him ? That is relative if his own political party doesn't betray him a la Ribadu 2011 (except the ACN wants to say they don't really have much influence over the peoples of the SW and that's why Ribadu lost so miserably) I don't even want to bring in the facts of Buhari's discomfort of working with politicians whose hands are by no means "clean". There are a lot of variables involved, Buhari has said he will contest come 2015 but as far I know, the APC hasn't selected a candidate yet either through primaries or inner caucus meetings.
PS. Buhari/Fashola will never work
/ Okorocha has a file longer than the 3rd mainland bridge that can be used to fvck him up big time...

tosh_acer: Did they vote for Atiku 2007? Did they vote for Ribadu 2011? Did they vote for Buhari 2003, 2007, 2011? No. Check their voting pattern at the Presidential polls, its usually PDP. Check it.

Yorubas are not fools like you guys. You said you know yorubas' voting pattern but you didnt know that despite OBJ contesting in 2003, yorubas rejected pdp.

Obj came and destroyed south west politics and we had to fight a tough battle to get the south west back - defeating obj and his pdp. Now that we have won the regional battle, the next is national battle and we are aligning with the north to defeat pdp and the criminal gang current leading the country.

talktimi: Let's not deceive ourselves here, whether anybody likes it or not, Buhari although with impeccable character doesn't have mass appeal outside the north, will the SW vote for him ? That is relative if his own political party doesn't betray him a la Ribadu 2011 (except the ACN wants to say they don't really have much influence over the peoples of the SW and that's why Ribadu lost so miserably) I don't even want to bring in the facts of Buhari's discomfort of working with politicians whose hands are by no means "clean". There are a lot of variables involved, Buhari has said he will contest come 2015 but as far I know, the APC hasn't selected a candidate yet either through primaries or inner caucus meetings.
PS. Buhari/Fashola will never work
/ Okorocha has a file longer than the 3rd mainland bridge that can be used to fvck him up big time...

Ibo cant be vp on this ticket - you have no value to add at the moment.

saxywale:
It's going to be a tough one for ACN in Osun and Ogun. These two states are being governed by the ACN oga at the top in ikoyi and its not going down well with the indigenes. It's not gonna be an easy ride. We all also saw what happened in Ondo. ACN came a distant 3rd! You are correct, the Yorubas don't have herd mentality.

So, yorubas will vote for gej? Lol. Because Gej has turned nigeria into dubai. Because gej is in corruptible and perform so well.

Fools... labour has ondo today because of the performance of their governor. Otherwise, it would have been another story.

A national contest involving jona will be very different. Even in 2011, turnout in south west was the lowest 35% because of the failure of the alliance. When campaign starts you will see. Jona is in trouble.

OsunOriginal:

Yorubas are not fools like you guys. You said you know yorubas' voting pattern but you didnt know that despite OBJ contesting in 2003, yorubas rejected pdp.

Obj came and destroyed south west politics and we had to fight a tough battle to get the south west back - defeating obj and his pdp. Now that we have won the regional battle, the next is national battle and we are aligning with the north to defeat pdp and the criminal gang current leading the country.

people born in d ghetto are amounting to something, these days. But u have refused to get refined.
All ur comments starts or ends wit insults! Must u showcase ur 'wildness'? Haba, u suck!

@osunoriginal, Stop being childish. U dont speak for d entire yoruba people. Nl has no power to choose d president and stop e-fighting, its like fighting air. Grow up!
@topic, any ticket wit Buhari in it,, will NEVER win. Stop living backwards, live in d present n plan for d future

It's madness reading some irresponsible and daft statements on this forum by those who walk with their heads.
Nigeria today is everybody problem and those who feel comfortable today will ended up lamenting in the future like OBJ or Yaradua boys. The most annoying thing is that- Those that are most humiliated and deadly governed, still come to the media or any social discursion to speak in support of these evils that imposed themselves on them without option.
I wonder if this was strategically employed as a way of living our people blind so that corruption as it is can continue be a way of life for those at the top, the middle class strive and join them in the league if the game was well played. the people at the lower class (poverty family) continue worshiping and celebrating these criminals and as a result have no objection in killing member of poverty family who raise eyes brow or alarm where corruption is discover.
Omo ino laa ran si ino.

OsunOriginal:

So, yorubas will vote for gej? Lol. Because Gej has turned nigeria into dubai. Because gej is in corruptible and perform so well.

Fools... labour has ondo today because of the performance of their governor. Otherwise, it would have been another story.

A national contest involving jona will be very different. Even in 2011, turnout in south west was the lowest 35% because of the failure of the alliance. When campaign starts you will see. Jona is in trouble.

I reckon with the bolded. Many South-Westerners stayed indoors during the 2011 presidential elections, mainly because of the failure of the ACN/CPC alliance, hence the 35% turn-out (the poorest in the country). The game should be different in 2015. Yet, I still wonder how the nearly "magical" 100% turn-out was achieved in the South-East and South-South in the same election...

OsunOriginal:

Ibo cant be vp on this ticket - you have no value to add at the moment.

its always quite difficult having a meaningful discussion with a known minion but I'll try, Okorocha has been touted severally as a VP candidate under the yet to be registered APC and he is an ibo man.
By the way, you're in no position to determine those who have value to add in a discussion or not, maybe when you learn to get your opinions across without hurling insults and abusive words like a common street urchin THEN you can come to the table but until then, stay at your narrow lane.

Sunny_bobo: No. This is the reason why the South West won't vote for Buhari;


PTF Projects: The Abacha regime created a parallel government through the Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF) headed by Major General Muhammed Buhari. Nothing else typifies the marginalisation of the Yoruba than the lopsidedness of the projects carried out by the PTF. Figures from PTF Situation Reports (Vol. 2 Dec. 98) show that the PTF carried on as if there was no South West.

Of all the roads rehabilitated by he PTF, only 1984.5 kilometres of roads representing 10.84 per cent were carried out in the South West; from where the bulk of the PTF revenue came since the zone consumes over 60 per cent of refined petroleum products. All the Southern States had 4,440.43 kms or 24 per cent of road rehabilitation as against 13,870.47 kms or 76 per cent in the Northern States zone three comprising the North-West States of Jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, Kebbi, Sokoto and Zamfara had a lion share of 5020 kms or 27.42 per cent because the Fund’s Chairman, Buhari and the military dictator Sani Abacha were from there; zone four comprising the North-East States of Adamawa, Bauchi, Borno, Gombe, Taraba and Yobe picked 23.48 per cent. This is the zone where Salihijo Ahmed, the late Chief Executive of Afri-Project Consortium APC, the sole consultants that supervised all PTF projects came from.

Figures in other sectors were more scandalous. For instance, under the National Health and Educational Rehabilitation Programme (NHERP), the South West had zero allocation in the tertiary programme, while the North picked 100 per cent. In the vocational programme, the South West had zero while the North had 97 per cent. In the primary area, the South-West had zero against 88 per cent for the North and in the secondary area, it was zero for the South-West and 86 per cent for the North.

The health sector is similar. For the Teaching Hospitals, the South-West had zero while the North had 62 per cent. For the Specialist Hospitals, it was zero for the South-West and 71 per cent for the North; in General/State Hospitals the Yoruba had nothing while the North had 56 per cent for health clinics, it was zero for the South-West against the North’s 100 per cent.

Under the food supply summary, the Southwest had 7.26 per cent compared with 83 per cent for the North, Buhari’s zone having 60.54 per cent to itself.

http://www.nigerianmuse.com/20061228122222zg/nigeria-watch/all-about-the-oputa-panel-hrvic/nigeria-has-persecuted-the-yoruba-submission-of-afenifere-to-the-human-rights-violations/

Buhari has a very bad record in South West.
His religious bigotry and Hausa/Fulani sentiments blinded him against most other tribes.
Abacha gave him an opportunity to right his wrongs as PTF chairman, but because it flows in the blood his bigotry only got worse. His Hausa/Fulani north alone got about 85% of PTF projects while South East and South West were only given crumbs.

@Op No, I won't vote for him, not because he is a religious and ethnic bigot
but because he is empty headed and doesn't have anything to offer.
In the words of El-Rufai, he is unelectable.

I dont see that working. Even if people of the SW would want to vote for fashola. I dont see him been able to do anything for his people as the vice.

But if the ticket where to be the other way round fashola/buhari [which i know is impossible] Apc might get a good vote

vizboy: I dont see that working. Even if people of the SW would want to vote for fashola. I dont see him been able to do anything for his people as the vice.

But if the ticket where to be the other way round fashola/buhari [which i know is impossible] Apc might get a good vote

The Fashola/Buhari ticket will be far far better but . . . this will give Hausa/Fulani votes away to the PDP. Fashola is far more intelligent and up-to-date than Buhari. APC's insistence on Buhari because he commands nothern Almajiri following is not in the best interest of Nigeria. Almajiri are young and not so educated and their preference for Buhari is not based on sound judgement but beclouded by ethnic and religious sentiments.

corpwide:


Yes, that is exactly why I am asking this question. Normally, with ACN having a grip of the SW and CPC having a grip of the north, the APC should coast home quite easily with few more votes from SE and NC. But I strongly doubt that SW will actually vote APC IF a Buhari is the candidate.

By the way, SW only "voted" PDP in 2003 - and not really, cos it was rigged!

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