4 Him:

[size=14pt]catechism 841
The Church's relationship with the Mus'lims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Mus'lims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful god, mankind's judge on the last day."[330][/size]

This is the very definition of CONFUSION and STRONG DELUSION.

How can mus'lims be part of the plan of salvation when they DENY the very foundation of that salvation (the death on the cross)?

How can they, who deny the LORDSHIP OF JESUS (calling Him but a prophet), be one with catholics who with their lips profess to worship Christ?

Do you propose to drop an atomic bomb on m'uslims? Like your protestants in USA?

imhotep:

And you accuse catholics of not reading the bible!!

no i accuse them rightly of heresy. Purgatory is not in the bible neither is vicarius filli dei.

imhotep:

Check your history. ALL those that have tried to interpret Revelations have failed woefully.

Not this time. The destruction of that false prophet you call a pope is round the corner.

imhotep:

Please check here =>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity . Stop being ignorant of history. Yes, the Holy Spirit, with the Catholic Church defined and defended the Trinity and the Hypostatic union of Christ.

Paul the apostle did not need Wikipedia to remind him that the catholics "defined and defended" the truth he preached and died for. Unlearned fishermen like Peter preached Christ crucified, they did it by the help of the Holy Spirit and not those charlatans who think colorful robes is the way to heaven.

imhotep:

If the killing of over 800,000 iraqis is not destruction, then what is it? Please tell me.

90% have been killed by mus'lim on mus'lim violence. Read the papers, the suicide bombers are not american troops in disguise.

imhotep:

Do you propose to drop an atomic bomb on m'uslims? Like your protestants in USA?

If they threaten us then bomb them away. A mus'lim nearly killed Pope John Paul II, mus'lims it was who demanded Pope Benedict be killed for a 14th century quote, perhaps he shld go live in Iraq and see oh what peace his fellow travellers in the boat of doom pretend to have.

4 Him:

no i accuse them rightly of heresy. Purgatory is not in the bible neither is vicarius filli dei.

Neither is 'Trinity' which you defend so strongly. Please reject it.

4 Him:

Not this time. The destruction of that false prophet you call a pope is round the corner.

This is precisely what they all thought when they were mis-interpreting Revelations.

4 Him:

Paul the apostle did not need Wikipedia to remind him that the catholics "defined and defended" the truth he preached and died for. Unlearned fishermen like Peter preached Christ crucified, they did it by the help of the Holy Spirit and not those charlatans who think colorful robes is the way to heaven.

Apostle paul was LONG DEAD as at when Trinity was defined and defended. Go and study.

4 Him:

90% have been killed by mus'lim on mus'lim violence. Read the papers, the suicide bombers are not american troops in disguise.

But the violence was started by USA. Saddam was captured and handed over to his enemies by USA. Now you come and preach a corrupted bible to Catholics and M'uslims.

4 Him:

If they threaten us then bomb them away.

Real or imaginary threats? You go and kill their mothers, brothers and sisters. Then you preach peace to them. Hypocrisy.

4 Him:

A mus'lim nearly killed Pope John Paul II,

And he forgave like a true Christian.

4 Him:

mus'lims it was who demanded Pope Benedict be killed for a 14th century quote, perhaps he shld go live in Iraq and see oh what peace his fellow travellers in the boat of doom pretend to have.

And he apologized for his remarks that were taken out of context.

imhotep:

Neither is 'Trinity' which you defend so strongly. Please reject it.

i have nothing to do with the doctrine of trinity, i simply hold on to the teachings of Christ . . . one God in three manifestations, call it whatever you like.

imhotep:

This is precisely what they all thought when they were mis-interpreting Revelations.

Rev 17. The doom of the RCC is sealed.

imhotep:

Apostle paul was LONG DEAD as at when Trinity was defined and defended. Go and study.

But Paul, Peter, Phillip, James and co understood the mystery of the Godhead, taught and wrote about it . . . they didnt need your cult to "define and defend" it for them.

Pls stop perpetuating more blasphemy, Christ did not need you to fight for Him as He was led to the cross . . . He NEVER instituted a body to "define" His teachings after His ascension, rather He promised to send the Holy Spirit to - John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

When did the catholic church usurp the position of the Holy Spirit?

imhotep:

But the violence was started by USA. Saddam was captured and handed over to his enemies by USA. Now you come and preach a corrupted bible to Catholics and M'uslims.

You missed the 8yr violence between Iran and Iraq that claimed over a million lives.

"go and figure out the 33,000 protestant sects"
  "luther deleted 7 books from the bible"
  "the catholic church will continue to grow and be organized"
  "(something something) hatred"
  "go and do your research . . . (insert vatican website here)"
 "go and sort out your tithe issues"
 "(post a quote from a martin something)"

LMAO!! NO hard fellings

 AKO, don't jump in front of a raging train  

Lol, I am only bothered by the fact that they are both attempting to as it were, draw water from a bucket with a sieve; pointless!

catechism 841
The Church's relationship with the Mus'lims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Mus'lims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful god, mankind's judge on the last day."[330]

Well that's mighty shocking! Never knew that this was part of the bible catechism.

4 Him:

i have nothing to do with the doctrine of trinity, i simply hold on to the teachings of Christ . . . one God in three manifestations, call it whatever you like.

Christ never mentioned the word Trinity.

4 Him:

Rev 17. The doom of the RCC is sealed.

Speak for your own doom.

4 Him:

But Paul, Peter, Phillip, James and co understood the mystery of the Godhead, taught and wrote about it . . . they didnt need your cult to "define and defend" it for them.

Please reject our 'Trinity' if you are serious.

4 Him:

Please stop perpetuating more blasphemy, Christ did not need you to fight for Him as He was led to the cross . . . He NEVER instituted a body to "define" His teachings after His ascension, rather He promised to send the Holy Spirit to - John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
When did the catholic church usurp the position of the Holy Spirit?

Good. I don't see you rejecting our 'Trinity' though. When will you make up your mind?

4 Him:

You missed the 8yr violence between Iran and Iraq that claimed over a million lives.

In which Iraq was backed by USA.

A_K_O:

LMAO!! NO hard fellings

AKO, I love your sense of humour.

JeSoul:

Cgift,
sweetie, surely, thou is not suprised the pope is kissing the qorani? didn't you know catholics and mooslims serve the same god?

catechism 841
The Church's relationship with the Mus'lims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Mus'lims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful god, mankind's judge on the last day."[330]

You can imagine the time bomb they call catechism. When it explodes in their face it will be too late to have a rethink. Like you guys have already highlighted, you can see clearly that the Antichrist is seated right in the Vatican and these laymen here revel in one celebrity pope who cant even weild any noticeable spiritual powers save for dark ones. I shudder!!! Look at him approving the one who has not accepted the Lordship and Sonship of God's son in Jesus Christ! And some ~lady~ comes here trying to turn scholarship upside down? She will soon come and start chanting the "judgmental" song soonest - that rhetoric, escapist, and sympathy-seeking lifebuoy statement. They would rather close their eyes (which is refusing to see anyway) to what stares them right in the face all in defense of some popey.


By the way, ~Lady~, how far have you gone with my book "Dignity & Duties of the Priest", can you be honest enough to tell us that you saw what St. Alphonsus Liguori said about a priest falling once a month and that he can still be excused? I hope say the thing never kpai you already. You should be sweating seeing the legitimization of atrocities and sin by your revered fathers i guess.

JeSoul:

brotha Imhotep,
based on personal experience on these boards, I have complied a list of your answers to any and every question that is posed to you:

"go and figure out the 33,000 protestant sects"
"luther deleted 7 books from the bible"
"the catholic church will continue to grow and be organized"
"(something something) hatred"
"go and do your research . . . (insert vatican website here)"
"go and sort out your tithe issues"
"(post a quote from a martin something)"
"*insert picture of the pope*"
and many more I can't recall now.

Leave Imhotep alone! He enjoys his fallacy. Let him keep enjoying it but he would not be able to run back to Nairaland when the bubble burst. He cannot even understand why his popes approve a religion that denies Jesus' sonship in as much as the religion (Is'lam) approves of their mary ~ they have no worries over that of Jesus.

Everybody is seen as celebrity in the United States. The only difference is that the Pope's is longer than 15 min and he won't do something stupid _{Britney Spears}

@cgift et al
I know your fears. Your tiny little protestant sect will splinter and divide before the year 2010. You wonder how the RCC has been able manage 2000 beautiful years. Don't worry, the answers are in your [corrupted] bible. If only you remove envy and hatred from your hearts.

Jesoul:
brotha Imhotep,
based on personal experience on these boards, I have complied a list of your answers to any and every question that is posed to you:

"go and figure out the 33,000 protestant sects"
"luther deleted 7 books from the bible"
"the catholic church will continue to grow and be organized"
"(something something) hatred"
"go and do your research . . . (insert vatican website here)"
"go and sort out your tithe issues"
"(post a quote from a martin something)"
"*insert picture of the pope*"
and many more I can't recall now.

Well said, my dear sister . I actually have many more up my sleeve.
But I think protestants should go and clean up their (very) untidy backyard. They should remove the mighty logs in their eyes first.

Afterall, charity begins at home.

imhotep:

@cgift et al
I know your fears. Your tiny little protestant sect will splinter and divide before the year 2010. You wonder how the RCC has been able manage 2000 beautiful years. Don't worry, the answers are in your bible. If only you remove envy and hatred from your hearts.

i think I shold just write-off this guy and commit his soul to the hands of "al'lah" his surrogate god!

cgift:

i think I shold just write-off this guy and commit his soul to the hands of "al'lah" his surrogate god!

Are you at your wits end again?

imhotep:

@cgift et al
the answers are in your [corrupted] bible.

", If any man shall add to these things (or delete) God shall add unto him the plagues written in this Book." (Revelation 22:18-19)

But who cares! They do not really believe! The protestants have bravely expunged seven
whole books from their Book of God! The outcasts are:

_ The Book of Judith
_ The Book of Tobias
_ The Book of Baruch
_ The Book of Esther, etc

MC Usman:

", If any man shall add to these things (or delete) God shall add unto him the plagues written in this Book." (Revelation 22:18-19)

But who cares! They do not really believe! The protestants have bravely expunged seven
whole books from their Book of God! The outcasts are:

_ The Book of Judith
_ The Book of Tobias
_ The Book of Baruch
_ The Book of Esther, etc

@MCUsman
Please tell them. Maybe they will delete the book of Revelation for placing 'curses' on those who delete books from the bible.

imhotep:

Are you at your wits end again?

Not really, You are just allergic to the truth.

fada 4Him, santos!!!

God bless the Pope

[Quote from: JeSoul on Yesterday at 09:28:20 PM]
Cgift,
sweetie, surely, thou is not suprised the pope is kissing the qorani? Kiss Cheesy didn't you know catholics and mooslims serve the same god?

catechism 841
The Church's relationship with the Mus'lims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Mus'lims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful god, mankind's judge on the last day."[330]
[quote][/quote]

You can imagine the time bomb they call catechism. When it explodes in their face it will be too late to have a rethink. Like you guys have already highlighted, you can see clearly that the Antichrist is seated right in the Vatican and these laymen here revel in one celebrity pope who can't even weild any noticeable spiritual powers save for dark ones. I shudder!!! Huh Look at him approving the one who has not accepted the Lordship and Sonship of God's son in Jesus Christ! And some ~lady~ comes here trying to turn scholarship upside down? She will soon come and start chanting the "judgmental" song soonest - that rhetoric, escapist, and sympathy-seeking lifebuoy statement. They would rather close their eyes (which is refusing to see anyway) to what stares them right in the face all in defense of some popey.


By the way, ~Lady~, how far have you gone with my book "Dignity & Duties of the Priest", can you be honest enough to tell us that you saw what St. Alphonsus Liguori said about a priest falling once a month and that he can still be excused? I hope say the thing never kpai you already. You should be sweating seeing the legitimization of atrocities and sin by your revered fathers i guess.

By the way, ~Lady~, how far have you gone with my book "Dignity & Duties of the Priest", can you be honest enough to tell us that you saw what St. Alphonsus Liguori said about a priest falling once a month and that he can still be excused? I hope say the thing never kpai you already. You should be sweating seeing the legitimization of atrocities and sin by your revered fathers i guess.

Nope I haven't found it. And if I do, what am I supposed to do? Leave the Catholic Church? For where my dear? Which church have I not been to that I haven't seen hypocrisy and false teachings and conduct. I have seen in the Baptist Church, in the Lutheran Church, in the non denominational church, in the Redeemed Christian Church of God, in whatever church, name it, I have been there, even in the Cele Church. my dear I won't leave the Catholic Church, so save your breath.

Preach to thy kingdom come, but I won't leave the One Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church, especially to join a church of hypocrisy filled with members that play the role of God. I know, I have been there.

@cgift and co.
Your bible-believing and bible-cramming Cele brothers blend the bible and juju. M'uslims preach against juju. But many bible-believing Christians have found a way to make it compatible with the bible.

I say to you once more => Take the logs out of your blind eyes. Go and preach to your Cele brothers. We are not moved by your biblical misquotes.

You met the RCC on ground. The glorious RCC will be around long after you are gone. Delete envy, jealousy, insecurity and hatred from your heart - and stop wasting your time.

~Lady~:

Nope I haven't found it. And if I do, what am I supposed to do? Leave the Catholic Church? For where my dear? Which church have I not been to that I haven't seen hypocrisy and false teachings and conduct. I have seen in the Baptist Church, in the Lutheran Church, in the non denominational church, in the Redeemed Christian Church of God, in whatever church, name it, I have been there, even in the Cele Church. my dear I won't leave the Catholic Church, so save your breath.

Preach to thy kingdom come, but I won't leave the One Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church, especially to join a church of hypocrisy filled with members that play the role of God. I know, I have been there.

I am not saying you should come to Cele or whatever. I am trying to form a church, i will be glad to have you as my choir mistress, abi you no fit sing?

More seriously, what you do when you find it will only make you think deeply and ask yourself: why then the double standards? Why cant the RCC just swallow its humble pie and allow its priest to marry? I have always told you that the primary reason for the celibacy thing in the RCC is not even known to most of the priests themselves and i am serious about it.

cgift:

More seriously, what you do when you find it will only make you think deeply and ask yourself: why then the double standards? Why can't the RCC just swallow its humble pie and allow its priest to marry? I have always told you that the primary reason for the celibacy thing in the RCC is not even known to most of the priests themselves and i am serious about it.

Reform your own 'churches'. Take the log out of your own eye. Your cele brothers are mixing bible and voodoo. Go and give them a pie to swallow.

I am not saying you should come to Cele or whatever. I am trying to form a church, i will be glad to have you as my choir mistress, abi you no fit sing?

HAHAHAHAHA, OF COURSE!!!!

I have one answer to you.

1 Timothy 6: 3-10

3 Whoever teaches something different and does not agree with the sounds of our Lord Jesus Christ and the religious teaching
4 is conceited, understanding nothing, and has a morbid disposition for arguments and verbal disputes. From these come envy, rivalry, insults, evil suspicions
5 and mutual friction among people with corrupted minds, who are deprived of the truth, supposing religion to be a means of gain
6. Indeed, a religion with contentment is a great gain
7 For we brought nothing into the world, just as we shall not be able to take anything out of it
8 If we have food and clothing, we shall be content with that
9 Those who want to be rich are falling into temptation and into a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires, which plunge them into ruin and destruction
10 For the love of money is the root of all evils, and some people in their desire for it strayed from the faith and have pierced themselves with many pains.

The truth have been brought out, lol

Yes o, I can sing, but I am not called to sing, sorry.

I am so through with you, it's not even funny. In order for you to build yourself up you must tear down another. ALL IN THE QUEST TO WIN PEOPLE TO YOUR CHURCH FOR YOUR PERSONAL GAIN. May God have mercy on you.

1Timothy 6:20-21

20 Oh Timothy guard what has been entrusted to you. Avoid profane babbling and the absurdities of so-called knowledge.
21 By professing it, some people have deviated from the faith.

This one is for me, so that I can truly be done with you.

Titus 3: 9-11

9 Avoid foolish arguments, genealogies, rivalries, and quarrels about the law, for they are useless and futile
10 After a first and second warning, break off contact with a heretic
11 realizing that such a person is perverted and sinful and stands self-condemned

No wonder you didn't read anything I wrote and you twisted it. You were hoping someone would notice you and seek your guidance in interpreting the Bible. That way you can start Bible study and eventually lead into a church.

If you were a true man of God, you wouldn't need to bash anyone. You wouldn't need to twist the truth. Religion with CONTENTMENT is a gain.


I AM DONE. YOU ARE OFFICIALLY DISMISSED.



Just so you know the Catholic Priests live as Paul lived. I suggest you read 1 Corinthians 9, the whole chapter. Yes they have the right to marry, but they give it up for God.

~Lady~,

I no go fit marry you with this your attitude o! Haba!! You just carry everything for head like say na war zone we dey? I no dey form church o! Kai. At least God never say make i go establish one for now . I get very fine job at the moment o. You wan know where i dey work and the church wey i dey go?



If i establish church sha, i go begin dey find you

That your quote " Religion with contentment is great gain na mis-quote abeg. Na godliness Bible talk to be religion my sis.

If i were a true MOG i wouldnt bash? Na the words of the Bible dey bash no be my own words.

Sis., I commit your soul to the hands of Jesus your saviour (not mary - you know say your pope say na MAry be your saviour sha?)

See how you deceive yourselves imhotep? The council of Trent has it that if anyone does not declare that its the body of Jesus being served as wafer, let him be anathema (which often leads to torture and death). that birthed the Inquisition which was made to save the face of the Catholic church when people discovered their fallacies about the Transubstantiation.

Vatican 2 has changed nothing of these gory laws which makes the world getting prepared for the next Inquisition.

Imhotep, did Vatican two change the law of worshiping the wafers? Now tell me where did your fathers get the injunction to worship the bread when Jesus and his disciples never did?

Respoind let us see your defense now. You guys are running away from this ehn? I thought Imhotep was saying they dont worship the wafer bread of the communion? The transubstantiation as carried out in the RCC is demonic no doubt! It is very clear. You guys are so full of idolatry. Repent now and come out of them now that you know the truth.


Tell me. I am waiting. Your lies and escapists strategies will eventually find you out and lets wait while you try hiding by your thin finger this time around.

cgift:

Are you quoting cartoons as references We are no longer toddlers, please grow up.

cgift:

See how you deceive yourselves imhotep? The council of Trent has it that if anyone does not declare that its the body of Jesus being served as wafer, let him be anathema (which often leads to torture and death). that birthed the Inquisition which was made to save the face of the Catholic church when people discovered their fallacies about the Transubstantiation.

Vatican 2 has changed nothing of these gory laws which makes the world getting prepared for the next Inquisition.

Imhotep, did Vatican two change the law of worshiping the wafers? Now tell me where did your fathers get the injunction to worship the bread when Jesus and his disciples never did?

Respoind let us see your defense now. You guys are running away from this ehn?

I thought Imhotep was saying they don't worship the wafer bread of the communion? The transubstantiation as carried out in the RCC is demonic no doubt! It is very clear. You guys are so full of idolatry. Repent now and come out of them now that you know the truth.

Tell me. I am waiting. Your lies and escapists strategies will eventually find you out and lets wait while you try hiding by your thin finger this time around.

You contradict yourself:
1) You agree that the Lord's supper is ordained by Jesus Himself.
2) You now turn around and say that the bread and wine (ordained by Jesus Himself) is evil.

@cgift

Your cartoons are taken from www.chick.com.

Let me now give you some background info about the owner of that site - Jack T. Chick


1. He is noted for his savagely anti-catholic stance; so he preaches with hatred/bitterness in his heart.

2. He believes many of the world's problems are deliberately caused by the Catholic Church. He credits the Catholic Church with founding The Great Religion, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and the Jehovah's Witnesses, persecuting Jews and starting the Holocaust, and founding and promoting Communism.

3. His stance on Catholicism led some Christian bookstores to stop stocking his tracts, and he withdrew from the Christian Booksellers Association after the association considered expelling him.

4. Christianity Today described Jack Chick as an example of "the world of ordinary, nonlearned evangelicals," for whom "atavistic anti-Catholicism remains as colorful and unmistakable as ever."


More here => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Chick

I do hope you are not as deluded as this man.

imhotep:

@cgift

Your cartoons are taken from www.chick.com.

Let me now give you some background info about the owner of that site - Jack T. Chick


1. He is noted for his savagely anti-catholic stance; so he preaches with hatred/bitterness in his heart.

2. He believes many of the world's problems are deliberately caused by the Catholic Church. He credits the Catholic Church with founding The Great Religion, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and the Jehovah's Witnesses, persecuting Jews and starting the Holocaust, and founding and promoting Communism.

3. His stance on Catholicism led some Christian bookstores to stop stocking his tracts, and he withdrew from the Christian Booksellers Association after the association considered expelling him.

4. Christianity Today described Jack Chick as an example of "the world of ordinary, nonlearned evangelicals," for whom "atavistic anti-Catholicism remains as colorful and unmistakable as ever."


More here => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Chick

I do hope you are not as deluded as this man.

oh stop all these denials that wont take you anywhere. Please answer, do you worship the wafer/bread and the wine or not?.

cgift:


oh stop all these denials that wont take you anywhere. Please answer, do you worship the wafer/bread and the wine or not?.

Why not go for a Catholic mass this evening and find out for yourself - first hand!

U sabi lay hide and seek o!