Kay 17:

Yet you believe this grand design was created from Nothing by God?? Isn't that impossible and contradictory?

kambo:

absolutely non contradctory.
First, science believes the world came out of nothg. Nothg created somethg- the root and foundation of evolution.
Randomness generated complex systems (absolutely impossible)
there was nonLife which created Life. (a physical stance tht is unreplicatable. Billions of Experiments to confirm this fact HAVE FAILED. LIFE CANNOT COME FROM NON LIFE).

The creator angle isnt a physcl take. It is a Spirit being with beyond humanly comprehendable properties. He instigated d process.
Designed and built the world.
Infinitely more plausble.
Randomness doesnt possess bias or singularity , hence a random process wud have created more worlds all with inhabited equally distinct beings. But tht isnt d case.
God made man. And God gave man his religious instincts which is y men in all cultures and races seek their Maker. But there is a devil who'll lead man d wrong way or feed man lies. Or try to convince man He doesnt need God but cant quench the God seekg urge in man.

usisky: As regards the OP. I believe, and do agree that religion in its present context, have birthed more foolishness than Atheism. While, at the same time, do align with the belief that Atheism has contributed the GREATEST foolishness in human evolutionary history. This is quite simply because: as an engineer, it beats my immagination why, a people, who would argue that something as simple as a bicycle could never come into being through Randomness(but rather deliberate design),would yet contend that something as d universe, which is IFINITELY more complex when compared against the simple bicycle ,could've emarged as a product of chance. Where's d consistency? Is not d Existence of our universe equally contingent upon a designer just as d bicycle- When in fact, d universe has greater variables that make d chance notion improbable? Well, this is only my opinion, and it is subject to criticism. Peace!

Lincoln burrows:

I prefer to be a fool for Christ than being your type of fool. Cos I don't have anything to gain for being an atheist. There is Hope in Christ

Kay 17:

Science does not say so. Science does not say the Universe appeared from nothing. And it is contradictory cos Nothing is the absence of a cause, function, object and anything; hence to claim the an absent cause triggers an effect is contradictory. Either its there or its not there.

So your God designer scheme is built on nothing!

Logicboy03:

So you are good only for the rewards?


lmao........op proven again! Religion breeds more foolishness!

bizmahn:

This fellow claims to be a theist but certainly not a christian.The utterances says it all.

Kay 17:

Nooo!! That's entirely false! In fact most atheists can't accept the belief that a God created the Universe out of nothing. Stop peddling lies

kambo:
i understand d meang of universal , how does it make my statement, Illogical?
There's an appeal against incivility by d Mods. In ur reply shw my error and giv corrction , if itheres an error.

Logicboy03:


Please go and read on what a scientific paper is.


Secondly, the book that Uswisky presents is hogwash.....just read the scientific reviews of it.

Logicboy03:

So you are good only for the rewards?


lmao........op proven again! Religion breeds more foolishness!

Lincoln burrows:

Hahahahaha! Just went through your profile, ur personal text got me laughing. Are u looking for converts? I will give u a clue. Before u get someone converted, u must have made promises of what someone stands to gain in ur beliefs. Example Christianity promises eternal life. Islam promises virgins for terrorists. So what do your own belief offer as promise- just blind arguments.

Logicboy03:


lol......ignorance is bliss.....


You dont know how many peeps have become atheists here on NL

4cassava sticks:
Hehehehe...let me see. So you are saying that atheists believe that the universe did not come from nothing which means it has a creator?

...but wait they don't accept that God(creator of the universe) is the creator of the universe. You people are even more stupid than I thought.

What next will you tell me? that you reject democracy but you accept government of the people by the people for the people?

Go and find your brain where you misplaced it abeg.

Logicboy03:


lol......ignorance is bliss.....


You dont know how many peeps have become atheists here on NL

Kay 17:

Noo!! It doesn't necessarily mean the universe was created by God! Some atheists take the Universe to be eternal, some claim a multiverse, some claim some primordial state etc.

Niflheim: @kambo,you are the biggest liar on nairaland.You claim that america was founded on christian principles and yet those same christians massacred the red indians and raped their female black slaves!!!

Niflheim: @kambo,you are the biggest liar on nairaland.You claim that america was founded on christian principles and yet those same christians massacred the red indians and raped their female black slaves!!!

Kay 17: And you forgot

God create from nothing = the Universe Energy Stars hairnets Angola/Nigeria humans dolphins etc.

This is uncontestably illogical and impossible. An eternal universe on the other hand stops making sense cos it is inconsistent with our observations. God creating from voids is a prior nonsensical.

Kay 17: And you forgot

God create from nothing = the Universe Energy Stars hairnets Angola/Nigeria humans dolphins etc.

This is uncontestably illogical and impossible. An eternal universe on the other hand stops making sense cos it is inconsistent with our observations. God creating from voids is a prior nonsensical.

kambo:

apostle john,
authr of the book of revelations,
descibed gold on d street of heaven being as pure as glass.
Only recently, has man usg advanced science learnt how refine gold to such crystal purity.

How cud john know this ?
Wat wud logicians and alchemists
of his time or even 3 centuries ago hav made of such a report?
They'd say it's Impossible because 2 them they cudnt reason it out.
In essence atheism rest on the idea that "if i cant figure it and i cant explain it , or experience it(5 senses).
it isnt real".
It's a religion of d mind. Ur mind is ur God.
Thts y Atheists hav so many puffy minded , schoool trained academics, in their ranks.
It is also a religion of pride..
Pride at admittg tht uv met somethg u cant intellectually wrestle down - acts of God.
You want God 2 come xplain himself to u.. How he did it.
Sorry, u'll wait a long time. U dnt know enuff to judge.

Kay 17: And you forgot

God create from nothing = the Universe Energy Stars hairnets Angola/Nigeria humans dolphins etc.

This is uncontestably illogical and impossible. An eternal universe on the other hand stops making sense cos it is inconsistent with our observations. God creating from voids is a prior nonsensical.

Logicboy03: Seems no one is feeding the abusive troll by answering him

5cassava sticks:
Hehehehehe....you slimy little bastard, you still haven't told me how the magic of your universe popping out of nothing managed to happen.

You are also a liar because theists do not say that god created out of nothing but out of his power in the same way that bill gates created Windows OS out of his intelligence.

Your religious fanaticism has eaten all the logical neurons in your brain

Kay 17:
The 1st problem is I never insulted you nor treated you like a baby.

2nd is don't I seem to disagree the popping out of Nothing scheme?! I never said that was my position.

3rd God created out of his power, of course he used his power, but from what material was existing before?

5cassava sticks:
so what? grow a thick skin for your username and stop being a baby


oh i see. What exactly is your position then? Stop shifting goal posts and hiding behind obfuscation screens


Are you saying that matter has always existed forever in the past? if not, if matter began to exist, where did it pop out from and what created it?

I'm really tightening that noose around your neck now aren't I?