Ayomivic: @ lanrexlan, i have questions to ask you concerning the Hadith Abu-Hurarai you quoted or requoted on this thread.

1 Can one deceive Allah?

In the Abu-Huraria hadith you quoted we were told of how last man in hell deceived God that God should turn his face away from the wind of fire that dried him and the stream of fire that burnt him and he made a pledge and convenant not to aske of any favor again if his wish is granted but when his wish was granted he went on to demand and demand until he enter paradise without fufiled his pledges and covenants. Do you think God who is all knowing , God who will hold men guilty for all promises they made and fail could allow that?

2 Is Allah two or how many Allah do Muslims have?
Because In the same hadith when the last man in hell made the last request that Allah should let him enter paradise with another promise not to ask any favor again.then Allah made one statement he said 'MAY ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON YOU SON OF ADAM'

Which Allah is this allah refering to that may have mercy on son of Adam? You know one Allah was removing people from hell to paradise.it was this allah that say may allah have mercy on son of Adam .if he refers to himself, he would not use 'MAY' but 'I' hope you get it?

3 How did Muhammed know how God will judged on the judgement day? I think from that hadith, you had made us understand that all Christian, jew and idol worshiper will go to hell but only muslims will go to paradise.

4. According to that hadith, does that mean that any muslims who observed salat regularlly with salat's mark on their fore head will go to paradise no matter their wrong deed and wickedness on earth?
pls answer these questions

pointblank 321: Can the muslims say categorically where Muhammad and other dead muslims are now before Resurrection Day with authoritative reference?

truthman2012:

I can't see where you stated Muhammad's and other muslims' condition or position after they have died pending resurrection day apart from Hellfire we saw in the Hadith and Quran. Where?

Chromablesimple: you are too busy on the muslim section posting series of misleading and bias and irrelevant ideas. Truthman, I assure u that u will be among those Jesus said they will cast demons in his name but they are false prophet, u have no place before Jesus u should rather do some objective comparative religions and seek God's guidance so that u will not end up in hell fire.

truthman2012:

I will keep excercisng myself reading and writing. But for your information, I don't like posting on muslims' section all the time, my posts are transferred there by the moderator.

As long as I remain with Jesus, I cannot go to hell. Jesus said 'in my Father's' house are many mansion for His followers. Jesus is in Heaven, not hell. Jesus didn't decree Hellfire for us and that is our greatest joy. Thank you.

Chromablesimple: That is only gaurantee if and only if u strictly adhere to the teaching of Jesus.Jusus never claimed Divinity so wot mansion are u talking about, all that are fairy tale, only God(Allah) has d final decision. As u may agree with me that God may forgive other sins but not that of associating partner with HIM, before it is too late, Truthman, stay off IDOLATRY and know that GOD ALmight alone is due to be worship and not Jesusa,a man, a creature like u an ordinary messenger. Look and read objectively through d bible, all d practice in it are done by the muslim, for instance the aspect of worshiping God directly which was practised by Jesus, ask urself if today christians are doing wot the bible stipulates.

truthman2012:

I'm not in doubt about my faith. I only pity you people. Apart from what the Bible says, we have visible evidences on the destination of true Christ believers after this world.

Not long ago, Baba Obadare died before he came back to life. We know what he said about his experience over there.

Baba Akindayomi, the founder of Redeemed Church died before he came back to live. We know what he said about his experience over there. These are but a very few among so many people.

Those who saw Jesus live or in dream tell us of their experiences.

Stephen, one of Christ's early believers, when being stoned to death for declaring Jesus as the Son of God saw Jesus in His glory in Heaven before he gave up the ghost and he declared it.

All of these are people we have the same faith and they were people of very high integrity. I have no reason to doubt them or the Bible.

I understand what is going on in your mind and your likely questions or comments. I don't need them and don't bother saying them because it is of no consequence to me or fellow believers

As for the muslims, their hope is in suspense as there is nothing or nobody to confirm or refute their faith in relation to what is happening in heaven. O ma se o.

Chromablesimple: What a distance dream of yours! I believe u read in the bible dt the spirit of devil will appear to some pple in the spirit of light to deceive them, the bible told us that once someone is dead he no longer belong to the living realm, all those pple u ve cite to prove ur fairy tale are all possessed by evil spirit.
Grow up man! Do u know wot many do to get their power? Stop this wishful thinking, lot are happening today in the world, don't see any man of God as saint or Godsent, check d trend and see how ur own salvation can be assured.
It is only by the mercy and grace of God can somebody be saved and not by his deed or righteousness. Brother, don't believe everytin u read!

maclatunji: What kind of 'truthman' relies on lies for his evangelism? I know, he got his 'truth' from an antiIslamic website.

truthman2012:

If all men of God in Christiendom are possessed of the devil, I wonder what the Muslims who deal directly with demons (jinns), making contact with them through arabic charms are possessed of. Infact that VIOLENT Gabriel was Satan in disguise and you are all possessed of him. It was Satan that played the roles of Allah, the roles Gabriel and the roles of Satan in the Quran. That is satanic Trinity for you.

If you attribute all the good things happening in Christiendom to the Devil, you are indirectly saying the Devil is good. Isn't it?

Since no manifestations of God are happening in Islam other than Allah writing on almost anything, which is of no benefit to humanity, this by implication means Allah is not good but the Devil.

You that claim to have original word of Allah have nothing to show for it other than VIOLENCE in every part of the world.

Chromablesimple: You should rather cover ur face in shame, simply because christianity is a confused faith. Wihtout denying the fact, u know how many division and denominations of christianity in the world today, funny enough, no one denomination agrees with another, do u still call that a path to salvation? In fact Jesus must be angry u all christians for bring him hell of shame.
Jesus did not creat christianity, St. Paul did, find out, ur faith should rather be called Paulinity and not Christianity, what a funny and confused Paul make up religion.

There are many people who follow Christianity and have divided themselves into various groups/ sects depending upon varying beliefs. The types of Christians include Catholic, Protestant, Anglican, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Baptist, Episcopalian, Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Coptic, Rastafarian, Gnostic,Celesian, Cerubum, Ekanka the list is endless.

Christianity ….One Christ, One Bible Religion… You know the Latin Catholic will not enter Syrian Catholic Church. These two will not enter Marthoma Church. These three will not enter Pentecost Church. These four will not enter Salvation Army Church. These five will not enter Seventh Day Adventist Church. These six will not enter Orthodox Church. These seven will not enter Jacobite church. Like this there are 146 castes for Christianity, each will never share their churches for fellow Christians..! Wonderful..! One Christ, One Bible, One Jehova.... What a unity!

Truthman, the more u reply my post the more irrationals in ur faith I will reveal. If u come with a blade, I will come with a knife. If u come with a dagger, I will come with a gun. Keep them coming, CHROMABLESIMPLE is home for u.

nextpart:

Are you saying there are no denominations in Islam? You can't be serious. What about the following islamic denominations?

1. Sunni
2. Shia
3. Sufism
4. Ibadi
5. Ahmadiya
6. Quranis

By the way who told you Ekanka is a Christian denomination?

Let it be clear to you that I'm not into any competition with anybody. Mine is to tell you people. It is not my business whether you believe it or not but you have been told. Than you.

nextpart:

Are you saying there are no denominations in Islam? You can't be serious. What about the following islamic denominations?

1. Sunni
2. Shia
3. Sufism
4. Ibadi
5. Ahmadiya
6. Quranis

By the way who told you Ekanka is a Christian denomination?

Let it be clear to you that I'm not into any competition with anybody. Mine is to tell you people. It is not my business whether you believe it or not but you have been told. Than you.

lanrexlan: Sects aren't allowed in Islam.But unfortunately,people have broken into sects,if we analyse the fundamentals of all these sects are the same,only one true God,one holy book,one prophet and all believed in 5pillars of Islam.There may be a little differences but the basics are the same,all the sects can pray together in a mosque,no discrimination.Unlike christianity,different bibles contradicting one another.....Peace

pointblank 321:

So we have different versions of quran contradicting one another.

All Christian denominations have the same basic belief i.e the Trinity and we pray to the same God using the name of Jesus.

lanrexlan: Brother,there's only one version of the Quran,only one arabic Quran with different translations.The arabic Quran is the same throughout the whole world.
Trinity has no basis in the bible and not all christians believe in it(e.g. Frosbel).Trinity is just a fabrication,God is only One(deuteronomy 6;4,Mark 12;29) and not three in one......Peace