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Re: Job Chapter 1 Vs 6 by Nobody: 12:54am On Jun 05, 2013 |
Oahray: the context of John 3:13 shows it was in reference to humans. Some translations even render it "No MAN..." instead of "no ONE". No human has ascended into heaven, but what of spirit creatures? In the Bible, angels used to come down to earth to deliver messages. Didn't they ascend back? Therein lies your answer. Satan isn't human. In any case, The events of the gospel of John preceeds the prophecies of Revelations (that foretells Satan's expulsion). Woah, come back here, soldier What are you saying? What does an angel's ability to deliver earthly message have to do with Satan's presence in heaven? Are you telling me that God came to earth? Passage said that angels CAME to present themselves before the Lord......CAME. |
Re: Job Chapter 1 Vs 6 by Oahray: 1:39am On Jun 05, 2013 |
From_Guiriga:to a human, yes. To another spirit, no. |
Re: Job Chapter 1 Vs 6 by Oahray: 1:42am On Jun 05, 2013 |
Texas.Cowgirl:lol. I actually wrote that in response to an opinion someone expressed about a certain other passage. |
Re: Job Chapter 1 Vs 6 by Oahray: 2:07am On Jun 05, 2013 |
Texas.Cowgirl:a) The Bible depicts them as separate events. b) It's more of "having access to" than "occupying" heaven. The latter expression seems to imply a permanent stay, as opposed to joining the sons of God in their gathering,uninvited, on those occasions as the book of Job puts it, or being around to "accuse the brethren" before their God, according to Revelations. In any case, they (Satan and other rebellious angels) were soon cast out, and nowhere was found anymore for them in heaven. Back to your question. I'd say.... No. |
Re: Job Chapter 1 Vs 6 by FromGuiriga(m): 3:23am On Jun 05, 2013 |
Oahray: to a human, yes. To another spirit, no. Give thanks for the reasoning. So the spirit of the adversary can dwell inside man? Then a human can see him/it, no? Is not this what Jesus saw in Peter when he told him "Get behind me Satan"? Which begs the question, How can the fall take place in the future? Can we not "see" spirits by discernment? Thanks in advance. |
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