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Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 11:33pm On Jun 06, 2013 |
shdemidemi: What? The God that created man, chooses "a people" then destroys the other nations that he himself created? The God send his begotten son to save the same people he plans to destroy and save at the same time. Wow! Please explain.... Thanks in advance. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by shdemidemi(m): 12:04am On Jun 07, 2013 |
From_Guiriga:Apostle Paul would never say that fam |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by Nobody: 12:07am On Jun 07, 2013 |
Paul saved no one , only Jesus saves. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by shdemidemi(m): 12:17am On Jun 07, 2013 |
From_Guiriga:You said it all, after man fell in to sin we became an enemy of God and a property of the devil, any man that was ever born after Adam carried the sin nature...2000 years later,He decides to elect one man whom he showed favour and He promised that man that him and his descendants will be His own people and through the seed of that one man the rest of the world shall be saved. After another 2000 years the saviour came, He paid the devil a price for our salvation with his life for the world to be reconciled back to God but with a caveat. You must believe he died and resurrected for you to be saved. The man that got the promise was Abraham , his descendant are the Israelites and any one who believes is a saint. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by Nobody: 12:24am On Jun 07, 2013 |
[quote author=shdemidemi] Property of the devil ? What are you talking about ? He paid the devil a price for our salvation with his life for the world to be reconciled back to God but with a caveat. You must believe he died and resurrected for you to be saved. What do you mean , pay the devil ? You theology is deviating from the bible more and more on a daily basis. Show us scripture to support these erroneous positions. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by shdemidemi(m): 12:25am On Jun 07, 2013 |
frosbel: Paul saved no one , only Jesus saves.I am with you with that statement. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by shdemidemi(m): 12:29am On Jun 07, 2013 |
[quote author=frosbel][/quote] I will throw the question back at you before answering, why do you think Christ had to die for you and I to be saved? |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by Nobody: 12:33am On Jun 07, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Jesus died to save us from sin and it's consequences. Now answer mine and support with scripture ( might not reply tonight as I am off to bed, so take your time ) |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by shdemidemi(m): 12:36am On Jun 07, 2013 |
frosbel:Lol, we all know he died for the propitiation of our sins, why did he have to? |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by shdemidemi(m): 12:42am On Jun 07, 2013 |
frosbel: .Property of the devil ? What are you talking about ?This is simple, when you are not within the domain of God, you are on the other side. God still chose people to carry on his message e.g the first man that found grace in God was Noah. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by plaetton: 1:51am On Jun 07, 2013 |
LMAO I can't seem to figure who is more schizophrenic , this god or his confused followers. LMAO! 1 Like |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by Mranony: 1:45pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
@shdemidemi, Christ DID NOT pay the devil anything. That is bad theology |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 1:54pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
shdemidemi: I stand corrected. He did not. This is what the Jewish man say now when they pray. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 1:58pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Brother, this is what they teach in church. Almost verbatim. Have you thought that thoroughly? I'm not trying to cast doubt in your faith but just to reason on it. Let me ask you this: What happened to the people who died before Jesus came on the scene? The people while he was on the scene but did not know about him? Where is their salvation? Give thanks still. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 2:03pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
frosbel: What about the people who died before Jesus was born? They did not know anything about a Jesus. Let along Abraham, how were they saved? |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by shdemidemi(m): 2:06pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
From_Guiriga: Anyone that was not Jew before Christ was condemned with a few exceptions though. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 2:06pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
shdemidemi: "...Those who have a pure heart will see God..." How did Jesus save? |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 2:09pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Fam, I don't know...it sounds like someone is teaching you these things. A reasonable man cannot arrived at a conclusion that the Most High God will chose people base on ethnic background. Is not that racist/prejudice? My African ancestor were they condemned for being African? |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by shdemidemi(m): 2:09pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
From_Guiriga:You are the one saying that, the scripture says something different |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by Mranony: 2:10pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
From_Guiriga:Rom 2:11 For God does not show favouritism. Rom 2:12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. Rom 2:13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. Rom 2:14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, Rom 2:15 since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) Rom 2:16 This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by shdemidemi(m): 2:12pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
From_Guiriga:No, he is not. If you are for him you are saved. So everyone has a chance in this church age to be just before him. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 2:12pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
shdemidemi: In regards to what? |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by Mranony: 2:14pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
From_Guiriga:God does not show favouritism |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 2:16pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
Mr anony: Will pick up later, God willing. Got to step out. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by shdemidemi(m): 2:18pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
From_Guiriga: The bible qualifies all man has bad, no man is good, we are all sinners. We have only one chance of getting to him which is through Jesus Christ. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by Mranony: 2:22pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
From_Guiriga:1Tim 2:15. Read it in context |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 8:58pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
shdemidemi: What? Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. I ask you this, can only a Jew have a pure heart? |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 9:03pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
Mr anony: In total agreement with the above. I was addressing [b]shdemidemi[/b]Saying something along the lines of if you were not a Jew before Christ you were condemned with few exception... or some nonsense like that. Is in his post. This is what Paul recognized. Any child can see this. So Paul wrote what he wrote once he came to this understanding. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by Mranony: 9:03pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
From_Guiriga:No where in the bible does it say that only a Jew can have a pure heart |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 9:09pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
Mr anony: That is exactly my point! |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 9:11pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
Mr anony: Give me your context. |
Re: Who Was The God Of The Old Testament? by FromGuiriga(m): 9:13pm On Jun 07, 2013 |
shdemidemi: I agree in some regard. Job in your the bible was a "righteous/blameless" man before Yahweh was he not? |
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