It appears that some folks are still struggling with the concept of migration. People migrate for economic and social (safety, family, etc) reasons. Portugal has generally been safer and richer than Brazil until recently. Net migration from Brazil to Portugal has always been positive. But guess what, there was a reversal in migration patterns during Lula's terms as president of Brazil, as Brazil reaped huge from commodities. Now with the recession in Europe and Portugal needing a bailout, Portuguese migration to Brazil is now positive with many Portuguese seeking opportunities in Brazil. Portugal remains more developed than Brazil but there are more opportunities in Brazil than in Portugal. See article below for more information.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/22/portuguese-migrants-brazil-economic-boom

^^ Thats what I keep telling them.

You can lie about every other thing GDP, Income per head, Budget, anything but human migration pattern would stick out

Its like a teenage pregnant girl trying to hide her protruding tummy.

Human beings even animals follow prosperity never poverty

Thats why Nigerians are sleeping at US and UK embassy and many are dying in the Sahara desert trying to reach Europe

Ojukwu was right, this country will never work.

dayokanu: ^^ Thats what I keep telling them.

You can lie about every other thing GDP, Income per head, Budget, anything but human migration pattern would stick out

Its like a teenage pregnant girl trying to hide her protruding tummy.

Human beings even animals follow prosperity never poverty

Thats why Nigerians are sleeping at US and UK embassy and many are dying in the Sahara desert trying to reach Europe

And why some Southerners will not leave the North even though the Northerners have been displaying violent hostilities to their presence - Boko Haram, religious and cultural disturbances, etc.

Katsumoto: It appears that some folks are still struggling with the concept of migration. People migrate for economic and social (safety, family, etc) reasons. Portugal has generally been safer and richer than Brazil until recently. Net migration from Brazil to Portugal has always been positive. But guess what, there was a reversal in migration patterns during Lula's terms as president of Brazil, as Brazil reaped huge from commodities. Now with the recession in Europe and Portugal needing a bailout, Portuguese migration to Brazil is now positive with many Portuguese seeking opportunities in Brazil. Portugal remains more developed than Brazil but there are more opportunities in Brazil than in Portugal. See article below for more information.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/22/portuguese-migrants-brazil-economic-boom

You are studying foreign migration patterns which is a different kettle of fish entirely, the Igbos of Nigeria cannot be explained or compared with any other tribe in this world, adventurous, daring, opinionated and ready to take big risks. The Igbos have something else moving them, or can you explain what an Onitsha man may be doing in Ogbomosho, is there more money in Ogbomosho than Onitsha?

@Katsumoto and Dayokanu
IS Cameroon also more developed than Nigeria since there are more Nigerians in Cameroon than vice versa. Don't forget Tanzania, Kenya, Zimbabwe and other sub-saharan African countries.

Afam4eva: @Katsumoto and Dayokanu
IS Cameroon also more developed than Nigeria since there are more Nigerians in Cameroon than vice versa. Don't forget Tanzania, Kenya, Zimbabwe and other sub-saharan African countries.

At least you have to show your stats which says Cameroun migrate to Nigeria more than reverse.

In the 80's when the Ghanaian economy was crumbling we saw how they flooded into Nigeria. Now when Ghanaian economy has gotten better we are seeing the reverse

van bonattel:

You are studying foreign migration patterns which is a different kettle of fish entirely, the Igbos of Nigeria cannot be explained or compared with any other tribe in this world, adventurous, daring, opinionated and ready to take big risks. The Igbos have something else moving them, or can you explain what an Onitsha man may be doing in Ogbomosho, is there more money in Ogbomosho than Onitsha?

If there are more Onitsha people moving to Ogbmosho than vice versa then it only means one thing. Ogbomosho is economically better than Onitsha

Human being move away from Poverty and towards prosperity SIMPLE

You dont have to like it, Its a rule of Life

Afam4eva: @Katsumoto and Dayokanu
IS Cameroon also more developed than Nigeria since there are more Nigerians in Cameroon than vice versa. Don't forget Tanzania, Kenya, Zimbabwe and other sub-saharan African countries.

Who said anything about development? The criteria is mainly economic opportunities. Portugal is more developed than Brazil. Besides, it takes a while for development to become obvious. Migration patterns are obvious within as little as one year.

dayokanu:

At least you have to show your stats which says Cameroun migrate to Nigeria more than reverse.

In the 80's when the Ghanaian economy was crumbling we saw how they flooded into Nigeria. Now when Ghanaian economy has gotten better we are seeing the reverse

How did we come to the conclusion that there are more Igbos heading to Zamfara than vice-versa?

How many Cameroonians do you see in Nigeria like you see Ghanians? Or how many Tanzanians do you see in Naija? On the other hand the population of NIgerians in cameroon is put at about 1 million while there's a measurable anount of Nigerians in Tanzania and other African countries.

Katsumoto:

Who said anything about development? The criteria is mainly economic opportunities. Portugal is more developed than Brazil. Besides, it takes a while for development to become obvious. Migration patterns are obvious within as little as one year.

There may be opportunities in Brazil but not more than Portugal. Brazil is still regarded as a poor country because a huge amount of it's population are still poor, so if there are economic opportunities, why are the locals not taking advantage?

Igbos go to Zamfara to create opportunities. It's not like they go their to work as factory workers, teachers etc. They create their own jobs.

Afam4eva: @Katsumoto and Dayokanu
IS Cameroon also more developed than Nigeria since there are more Nigerians in Cameroon than vice versa. Don't forget Tanzania, Kenya, Zimbabwe and other sub-saharan African countries.

Going by their twisted logic, Nigeria should be the least developed country in the world because they can be found in every corner of the globe including, Southern Sudan, Somalia, Darfur, Afghanistan, Chad, Niger, etc. Those countries have more economic opportunities than Nigeria. What a load of excrement!

Katsumoto:

Who said anything about development? The criteria is mainly economic opportunities. Portugal is more developed than Brazil. Besides, it takes a while for development to become obvious. Migration patterns are obvious within as little as one year.

Stop digging deeper! Why are there more Nigerians in Somalia, Southern Sudan, Darfur, Afghanistan, Eriteria? Can you explain that with your economic opportunity theory?

Afam4eva:
There may be opportunities in Brazil but not more than Portugal. Brazil is still regarded as a poor country because a huge amount of it's population are still poor, so if there are economic opportunities, why are the locals not taking advantage?

Igbos go to Zamfara to create opportunities. It's not like they go their to work as factory workers, teachers etc. They create their own jobs.

Everything in life is relative. It is not whether Brazil is a poor country or not (and Brazil isn't a poor country today). If there are more opportunities in Portugal, why then are portuguese leaving their homes in droves to go live in a 'poor' country? From the article I provided

"According to government figures, the number of foreigners legally living in Brazil rose to 1.47 million in June, up more than 50% from 961,877 last December.

Leading the pack are Brazil's former colonisers, the Portuguese. Nearly 330,000 now live in Brazil, compared with 276,700 in 2010."

Approximately 54,000 Portuguese migrated to Brazil within 1 year.

I give up.

Afam4eva:
How did we come to the conclusion that there are more Igbos heading to Zamfara than vice-versa?

How many Cameroonians do you see in Nigeria like you see Ghanians? Or how many Tanzanians do you see in Naija? On the other hand the population of NIgerians in cameroon is put at about 1 million while there's a measurable anount of Nigerians in Tanzania and other African countries.

I have told you to talk to Dalover who first brought Zamfara into the thread

^^

You didn't provide the statistics of the population of Brazillians living in Portugal.

van bonattel:

The definition of bravery is standing up and fighting, the Ikemba fought like a man and will forever be remembered as a hero who was given a presidential burial. MKO was beaten to death by IBB whom Al mustafa allowed in though the back door.

Ojukwu holds the record as the first commander to abandon his troop he lured to a senseless war and ran away.

DIVINE78:
Ojukwu holds the record as the first commander to abandon his troop he lured to a senseless war and ran away.

Much better than dying in the cell like a common criminal, and oh.......is he not a common criminal? ITT?

DIVINE78:
Ojukwu holds the record as the first commander to abandon his troop he lured to a senseless war and ran away.

According to his father in law

[img]http://books.google.com/books?id=aZwPAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA10&img=1&pgis=1&dq=cantankerous+coward&sig=ACfU3U3GoMlR8Pn__25EgVrZgm-D7VkimQ&edge=0[/img]

dayokanu:

According to his father in law

[img]http://books.google.com/books?id=aZwPAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA10&img=1&pgis=1&dq=cantankerous+coward&sig=ACfU3U3GoMlR8Pn__25EgVrZgm-D7VkimQ&edge=0[/img]

Still better than the one who never shot a dane gun even with the laughable title of 'fear ona kakanfo' HEM KAY HO.

van bonattel:

Still better than the one who never shot a dane gun even with the laughable title of 'fear ona kakanfo'

Someone whose Father in law and bosom friend called a coward

dayokanu:

Someone whose Father in law and bosom friend called a coward

As against someone whom the whole nation confirmed the grand patron of all cowards, living and dead. Abiola made a name for himself in history.

van bonattel:

As against someone whom the whole nation confirmed the grand patron of all cowards, living and dead. Abiola made a name for himself in history.

Show us any literature or writer that called Abiola a coward

I have just shown Ojukus father in law calling him one

van bonattel:

The definition of bravery is standing up and fighting, the Ikemba fought like a man and will forever be remembered as a hero who was given a presidential burial. MKO was beaten to death by IBB whom Al mustafa allowed in though the back door.

Eventually on the 12th of January 1970, ojukwu took flight and told the whole of Biafra that he was going in search of peace, little did we know the cantankerous coward had abandoned the cause and was running away

There was no cause in the first place, it was the dirty and wicked looking ojukwu's personal and selfish cause against Gowon.

The person calling Ojukwu a coward, has he demonstrated that he has more courage than Ojukwu?

The Igbos know Ojukwu, we suffered with him in our bid to establish Biafra and he has become our hero. He attained this unshakeable status in Igbos' hearts the moment he had the courage to declare Biafra - which was what his people asked him to do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqPZP-NYV0U

"How can a man die better than having faced the fearful odds for the ashes of his Fathers and the temples of his Gods" - Ojukwu

GenBuhari: The person calling Ojukwu a coward, has he demonstrated that he has more courage than Ojukwu?

The Igbos know Ojukwu, we suffered with him in our bid to establish Biafra and he has become our hero. He attained this unshakeable status in Igbos' hearts the moment he had the courage to declare Biafra - which was what his people asked him to do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqPZP-NYV0U

"How can a man die better than having faced the fearful odds for the ashes of his Fathers and the temples of his Gods" - Ojukwu

I have think got to take some lessons from biafra's propaganda machinery, so effective.

Biafra Propaganda ended with the war, all that is left is history.

debetmx:

I have think got to take some lessons from biafra's propaganda machinery, so effective.

GenBuhari:
Biafra Propaganda ended with the war, all that is left is history.

Need I remind you that chinua achebe's book "There was a Country" was all part of the continuation of biafra propaganda. Good luck

^
No it was history.

sometimes our history may make us uncomfortable but we need to own it and move on.