there wouldn't have been any problem if the presidency had focused on priorities and not meddle in irrelevant matters. Nobody cared about NGF until the presidency came in. Scrapped or not, what is the impact on average people like us? To God will we return and every man will account for his affairs.

yd849ja: The level of IQ of most of you on this forum shows the level of ignorance in this country and why we have the present crop of peeps in government. If you lots are the future of Nigeria then I have no doubt that the future is actually bleak for this country.
To start with the existence of NGF is constitutional (freedom of Association). Then issue of banning/not doesn't even arise. Also they actually serve the interest of you ignoramous lot but you are all too blinded by your sentiment for Jonathan and his reign of illegality to kno this. They are a peer group advancing the well being of their states contrary to what you might want to believe.The same NGF helped your GEJ to gain political prominence but I guess you are all suffering from amnesia to remember this. The current situation of the NGF bothers on legality and otherwise by you know who? So because GEJ wants to control NGF through illegality by the unscrupulous parade by Jang and the refusal of the rightful parties suddenly makes NGF evil. I get you lots logic it's either GEJ's way or the highway right? It might be Amechie today but you and Tomorrow. Nigerians think and stop being sentimental about anything GEJ.

How are they serving the interest of ignoramus like me? by over stepping their bound or by corruption they perpetuate in their respective state?

Who armed twist jonathan to scrap the fuel subsidy when he refused to back down on the meager 18000 minimum wage? and where were they when we all rose up in protest? which one of them came out to stand by the president apart from oshomole?

When an association move from it original noble role which in this case is peer review, collaboration between them to move their state forward to a sort of pressure group, cabal, mafia abi na godfather dictating who to become president, vice president e.t.c should not be encourage by all.

Believe me there is more to this than meet the eye and he who wear the shoes knows where it pains most and don't forget jonathan was a former governor so he know best.

And to me what jonathan did is a classical demonstration of political mastery to free himself from the clutches of this governors and at the same time reminding them that hr is the president, they are the governor and each with him or her own constitutional roll to play in the governance of the country.

abu abdullah: there wouldn't have been any problem if the presidency had focused on priorities and not meddle in irrelevant matters. Nobody cared about NGF until the presidency came in. Scrapped or not, what is the impact on average people like us? To God will we return and every man will account for his affairs.

The president wouldn't have interfere if only they have face their business and run the association for the purpose it was created in the first place

enm:

How are they serving the interest of ignoramus like me? by over stepping their bound or by corruption they perpetuate in their respective state?

Who armed twist jonathan to scrap the fuel subsidy when he refused to back down on the meager 18000 minimum wage? and where were they when we all rose up in protest? which one of them came out to stand by the president apart from oshomole?

When an association move from it original noble role which in this case is peer review, collaboration between them to move their state forward to a sort of pressure group, cabal, mafia abi na godfather dictating who to become president, vice president e.t.c should not be encourage by all.

Believe me there is more to this than meet the eye and he who wear the shoes knows where it pains most and don't forget jonathan was a former governor so he know best.

And to me what jonathan did is a classical demonstration of political mastery to free himself from the clutches of this governors and at the same time reminding them that hr is the president, they are the governor and each with him or her own constitutional roll to play in the governance of the country.

Like I earlier stated 'its either GEJ's way all the highway rite?' based on your logic as long as they dance to GEJ's tune all would be well in your wilderness of tyranny. How u conjectured that they are the one that hand twisted GEJ on the issue of subsidy shows how sentimental about GEJ u really are, when the whole world knows that subsidy removal was the brainchild of your revered GEJ that can do no wrong and that of Okonjo. And how you amount illegality as constituted by ur president to political mastery beats me. I guess we are in Nigeria after all. How the governors would benefits from subsidy removal is still an ambiguous logic to me so Ill like you to educate me on that. The last time I checked fighting the president over SWF that tend to shortchange every state of the country is constitutional. Like I earlier said your president mindless interference with the NGF only shows his desperation and nothing less.

yd849ja:

Like I earlier stated 'its either GEJ's way all the highway rite?' based on your logic as long as they dance to GEJ's tune all would be well in your wilderness of tyranny. How u conjectured that they are the one that hand twisted GEJ on the issue of subsidy shows how sentimental about GEJ u really are, when the whole world knows that subsidy removal was the brainchild of your revered GEJ that can do no wrong and that of Okonjo. And how you amount illegality as constituted by ur president to political mastery beats me. I guess we are in Nigeria after all. How the governors would benefits from subsidy removal is still an ambiguous logic to me so Ill like you to educate me on that. The last time I checked fighting the president over SWF that tend to shortchange every state of the country is constitutional. Like I earlier said your president mindless interference with the NGF only shows his desperation and nothing less.

I never said or implied that GEJ should be allowed to run uncheck but what i don't subscribe to is the governor leaving their own constitutional duties to interfare with that of the president.

why do we have division of labour? the governors err in trying to hold power over the president through their collective power, something that supposed not to be. Nothing wrong in advicing the president or calling his attention to things but everything is wrong when they step out of their boundary to become a political tool to coerce the president in doing their bidding both at the party level and in the governance of the nation.

All this governors, can they take it or accept it if all the local council chairman in their respective state come together to form an association in the name of good governance and peer review and then step out to act as a pressure group demanding from them good governance?

The governors of today are too powerful, powerful than the president, powerful than than the vice president, powerful than the senate president, powerful than the senate and house of rep, their respective state assembly, council chairman and counsellors are all rubber stamp to this governors. Is this the democracy we agitated for? where is the balance of power in this present setup. How can the principles of check and balance applied in this present setup?

The first step to rectify this is what GEJ did,causing division among them, weakening their collective power over the president and how i wish the senate and house of rep and state assemblymen will do what is right and seek their independent from this governors but too greedy and scared of what their governors will do to them by using party machinary against them in preventing them from returning.


Please the idea of the removal fuel subsidy stemmed from the governors when they were crying that they don't have money to pay the 18500 minimum wage, yes ngozi did carried it on her head preaching here and there why it must be allowed to stay but it all started from the governors. God bless oshomole for being man enough to stand by that decision in the midst of wide spread protest or do you think a man like oshomole will just stand up to stand by the president if they the governors have no hand in it?

What does Nigerians or the member states stand to gain fron this forum if i may ask? I personally see no importance of NGF.

Dbeliever: What does Nigerians or the member states stand to gain fron this forum if i may ask? I personally see no importance of NGF.

We stand to gain a lot from this forum not in term of money but in term of competition among the governors to developed their state. collaboration between state for the purposes of development and a discussion forum to discuss matters on governance in their state and sharing of ideas. That is if only they stick to the true purpose of the forum.

enm:


I never said or implied that GEJ should be allowed to run uncheck but what i don't subscribe to is the governor leaving their own constitutional duties to interfare with that of the president.

why do we have division of labour? the governors err in trying to hold power over the president through their collective power, something that supposed not to be. Nothing wrong in advicing the president or calling his attention to things but everything is wrong when they step out of their boundary to become a political tool to coerce the president in doing their bidding both at the party level and in the governance of the nation.

All this governors, can they take it or accept it if all the local council chairman in their respective state come together to form an association in the name of good governance and peer review and then step out to act as a pressure group demanding from them good governance?

The governors of today are too powerful, powerful than the president, powerful than than the vice president, powerful than the senate president, powerful than the senate and house of rep, their respective state assembly, council chairman and counsellors are all rubber stamp to this governors. Is this the democracy we agitated for? where is the balance of power in this present setup. How can the principles of check and balance applied in this present setup?

The first step to rectify this is what GEJ did,causing division among them, weakening their collective power over the president and how i wish the senate and house of rep and state assemblymen will do what is right and seek their independent from this governors but too greedy and scared of what their governors will do to them by using party machinary against them in preventing them from returning.


Please the idea of the removal fuel subsidy stemmed from the governors when they were crying that they don't have money to pay the 18500 minimum wage, yes ngozi did carried it on her head preaching here and there why it must be allowed to stay but it all started from the governors. God bless oshomole for being man enough to stand by that decision in the midst of wide spread protest or do you think a man like oshomole will just stand up to stand by the president if they the governors have no hand in it?

Can you please in the name of God site one e.g where the governors have Lord it over the president in the past rather than fighting for their right and why the same forum couldn't do the same with OBJ? I would also like you to know that constitutionally there is separation of powers as far as the President and the governors are concerned same cannot be said when it comes to the Govs and the LG chairs.the constitution has placed them under the control of the Govs so your argument holds no ground. As far as the fuel subsidy issue is concerned I can categorically tell you that it is the sole idea of your president and that of Okonjo. They only sold the idea to the Govs by coercing them into agreeing to it by using minimum wage and other element of the federal allocation formulae as bargaining chip against the Govs.

And there you go saying the Govs don't do your bids the last I checked minimum wage is for the good of the various states. So far your argument had not indicted the Govs in anyway but rather fortify your sentiment for GEJ and his illegal and selfish ways. I am yet to see any good in GEJ's attempt to subvert the NGF rather than for his own selfish political ambition if you believe otherwise please educate me.

enm:


I never said or implied that GEJ should be allowed to run uncheck but what i don't subscribe to is the governor leaving their own constitutional duties to interfare with that of the president.

why do we have division of labour? the governors err in trying to hold power over the president through their collective power, something that supposed not to be. Nothing wrong in advicing the president or calling his attention to things but everything is wrong when they step out of their boundary to become a political tool to coerce the president in doing their bidding both at the party level and in the governance of the nation.

All this governors, can they take it or accept it if all the local council chairman in their respective state come together to form an association in the name of good governance and peer review and then step out to act as a pressure group demanding from them good governance?

The governors of today are too powerful, powerful than the president, powerful than than the vice president, powerful than the senate president, powerful than the senate and house of rep, their respective state assembly, council chairman and counsellors are all rubber stamp to this governors. Is this the democracy we agitated for? where is the balance of power in this present setup. How can the principles of check and balance applied in this present setup?

The first step to rectify this is what GEJ did,causing division among them, weakening their collective power over the president and how i wish the senate and house of rep and state assemblymen will do what is right and seek their independent from this governors but too greedy and scared of what their governors will do to them by using party machinary against them in preventing them from returning.


Please the idea of the removal fuel subsidy stemmed from the governors when they were crying that they don't have money to pay the 18500 minimum wage, yes ngozi did carried it on her head preaching here and there why it must be allowed to stay but it all started from the governors. God bless oshomole for being man enough to stand by that decision in the midst of wide spread protest or do you think a man like oshomole will just stand up to stand by the president if they the governors have no hand in it?

Can you please in the name of God cite one e.g where the governors have Lord it over the president in the past rather than fighting for their right and why the same forum couldn't do the same with OBJ? I would also like you to know that constitutionally there is separation of powers as far as the President and the governors are concerned same cannot be said when it comes to the Govs and the LG chairs.the constitution has placed them under the control of the Govs so your argument holds no ground. As far as the fuel subsidy issue is concerned I can categorically tell you that it is the sole idea of your president and that of Okonjo. They only sold the idea to the Govs by coercing them into agreeing to it by using minimum wage and other element of the federal allocation formulae as bargaining chip against the Govs.

And there you go saying the Govs don't do your bids the last I checked minimum wage is for the good of the various states. So far your argument had not indicted the Govs in anyway but rather fortify your sentiment for GEJ and his illegal and selfish ways. I am yet to see any good in GEJ's attempt to subvert the NGF rather than for his own selfish political ambition if you believe otherwise please educate me.