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“Obasanjo Sabotaged Nigeria’s Destiny” - Pastor Tunde Bakare
Pastor Tunde Bakare

A lot of Nigerians will not hesitate to describe Pastor Tunde Bakare, presiding Pastor of the Latter Rain Assembly, Ogba, Lagos, as a Prophetic-Apostolic pastor. He has received national and international attention for his televangelism, which has sometimes been critical of the Nigerian government. His sermons, just like his predictions, have also ruffled feathers.
In the build-up to the June 12, 1993 presidential election, he had predicted that the National Republican Convention, NRC, will lose and the Social Democratic Party, SDP will not win. The election was held, and true to the prophesy, there was no winner. The election was annulled, even when the SDP's presidential candidate, the Late MKO Abiola was believed to have won. The subsequent crisis consumed the key actors and almost consumed the nation.
In 1999, his prediction against the Obasanjo presidency also caused a stir. Since then, the lawyer turned Pastor has been very active. In 2009, he led his group, the Save Nigeria Group to march on the streets of Abuja and Lagos to demand that the provision of the constitution must be respected with regards to the health of the Late President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua. President Jonathan, then a Vice President, rose on the strenght of that agitation, to become the Acting President.
By 2011, Pastor Bakare entered the political ring as the Vice Presidential candidate to General Muhammadu Buhari to fly the Congress for Progressive Change, CPC's flag. The duo lost to President Jonathan’s PDP. In January 2012, Bakare’s SNG was on the street again mobilising Nigerians to reject the new fuel price hike announced by the government. While the battle lasted, Bakare was very visible at the barricade,denouncing the Jonathan regime, an act which has continued to generate mixed reactions from Nigerians since then.
Today, Bakare remains a Pastor, a politician and a leader of thought who rose from a humble beginning to a position of influence. He was born to a Muslim mother and a Muslim father, whom he did not grow up to know. His mother, Madam Abigail Eebudola Bakare raised him up along with other siblings. Although he did not enjoy a conventional childhood, he struggled through life’s phases with his faith in God and the determination to make something of himself.
Married to Mrs. Olayide Bakare in 1984, Pastor Bakare’s marriage has played a strong pivotal role in his life, career and ministry. Mrs. B, as she is affectionately referred to by her husband, has been involved in the work of Ministry all her adult life and has served alongside her husband since their wedding in 1984, first as a co-pastor of The Latter Rain Assembly and presently a member of the board of trustees of the Church. She has also raised two girls and three boys born in their twenty six years of marriage.
His conviction: “God will not justify the wicked, He will not forsake the righteous; the wickedness of a wicked man will fall upon his head and the righteousness of a righteous man will answer for him in the days to come”.
“The minority that is right will become the majority and the majority that is wrong will become the minority, it’s just a matter of time”.
After our editorial conference, three weeks ago, where the idea of an interview with Bakare was discussed, the magazine set to work to get across to him. Within a few days, our contact got back to us that the Pastor was ready for us penultimate Sunday after service at his church, Latter Rain Assembly, in the Ogba area of Lagos. The Source team comprising Oluwasegun Abifarin, Deputy Editor; Chidiebere Onyemaizu, Assistant Editor; Olawale Abideen Senior Reporter and Yakubu Yusuf, Photor Editor took on the pastor on the state of the nation and other issues. It was an interesting encounter.

A lot of people describe you as a political Pastor. What do you have to say about this?
The last time I checked my Bible, I didn’t see anything like political Pastor there. I know there is Evangelist, Pastor, Teachers and so on. There are clergy men who patronise politicians or hold political office. But I have never come across political Pastor. And as a citizen of this country, I participate in politics so that our nation can have a breath of fresh air.
Those who hold that view say you mix pulpit with Politics.
The world pulpit occurs in the Bible only one time. Those who mix pulpit with politics what do they really want? The Bible says when the righteous are not in politics, they will be governed by the wisdom of fools. The Bible did not say we should fold our arms, stay in the four walls of the Church, only to criticize or condemn bad governance and unrighteousness. Or are we only to encourage our people to go out and fulfill their civic responsibilities? Don’t forget the Bible refers to those in government as ministers of God. There is no where the Bible says you cannot mix Church and politics. There are priests who later become kings and Kings who are priests and I read the scripture of Revelation Chapter 5 today where such example is given. There’s nothing like the view that if you are a priest you cannot function in politics.
People say politics is a dirty game, and as a pastor, is politics not too dirty for you to be involved in?
That question is informed by people not by your opinion. Because if it is by your opinion, I’m sorry there is no hope for this country. When I was in Deeper Life Bible Church, Brother Kumuyi said the television is a devil's box. But today, he preaches through the television. When you say television is dirty, you are talking about dirty programmes. Politics is a dirty game when dirty people are involved in it, or when people involved in politics do dirty things. Therefore, good men of God must be there to sanitise it. Clean men must be invited to man the affairs of this country.
You were retired General Buhari’s running mate in the 2011 presidential election. A lot of people wonder why you pitched your tent with a man you once criticised. What is your reaction?
I just finished a sermon where I gave an example of similar situation that says “I knew you when you are crude; who will take your past and put it upon your head.” General Buhari is not the only one I critised in Nigeria. I exercise my fundamental human right of speech to say this is wrong and this is right. The fact that I criticised him does not make him my enemy. As of 2011, Buhari was the only man standing when we talk of anti-corruption and certain level of purity in public life. Therefore, when he requested me to be his running mate and I discussed with my colleagues, the response was, lets give him the best that we have. So, yes I did, I never deny that. He was not the only one I criticised and most people don’t even know what I said about him. I was only preaching that day and I said none of these military men are coming back. I then began to name them and I forgot his name. I said what is the name of this fair man and people shouted his name.
Some people said General Buhari has been making some inflammatory statements and you failed to react or advise him against such comments. Why?
General Buhari will be 71 this year. He was a federal commissioner, now Minister. He was a former Head of State. You can disagree with his opinion. He has his fundamental right. If you disagree with his opinion, you bring your own opinion, that’s how the society develops. You don’t harass a man for making his opinion known. I was in Global Leadership Summit in Malaysia when the so -called statement was made and I called him to make clarification. He responded then that he said the same thing that he said before: That the Boko Haram crisis needs a holistic approach so that it will not be seen as something done against the north. I was not here when he made the statement and I never read the interview in a paper.
Be that as it may, linking him (Buhari) with Boko Haram is uncalled for. When the Federal government invited him to dialogue with Boko Haram, he simply declined because he believed the group is evil. And that even the Quran forbids what they are doing. Buhari said he does not even know them, and that he has no idea of how to relate with them. He said he has nothing to do with a sect that terrorises the nation.
Boko Haram actually listed Buhari, not the Federal Government, among those that could mediate between it and government and this may warrant the insinuation that he had a link with the group. (cuts in).
Look, you are journalists; one of the assets you have is ability to investigate. That Boko Haram said they could listen to him, to me, just means they know him as somebody that will not compromise his stand and principle. That he turned them down also means he has nothing to do with them, even if they have suggested that. A lot of public officers in Nigeria will tell you that their people call them to serve them whereas in actual sense, they are serving their pockets. Honestly, after the panel set up to investigate it, the panel did not find anything to nail General Buhari. If they saw anything, they would have nailed him by now. And he’s not afraid to be questioned. Once upon a time, key leaders of OPC (Odua People's Congress) came to me. They wanted me to do something for them. I simply told them that two people cannot work together unless they agree. I told them I do not know them very well and I recommended that they should go to Chief Gani Fawehinmi. That those OPC members came to me does not mean I endorse everything they are doing. We have to be careful of everything we make public so that we will not be ordinary rumour mongers.
Despite the burning of Churches by Boko Haram, you have not been too active in speaking out to condemn them as people would expect. What happened?
I have spoken loud and clear against them that they are wicked. Not only burning of Churches or killing of Christians alone. What about non-Christians. They have killed many innocent Nigerians and I have been voicing out against them in many platforms. They may be fighting a religious war. I’m not going to join them in their craze. Don’t make it a religious thing. Boko Haram is evil. To kill any Nigerian is abominable. To bomb the way they are bombing is nothing but wickedness. But listen, anybody who has enough presence of mind will know that Boko Haram is an instrument of high criminal Nigerians. We were in this nation when President Jonathan said Boko Haram is in his government. That the sect has infiltrated every sector, including the Nigerian Armed Forces and the National Assembly. He said so. Has anybody asked him to fish them out since he knows them too well? Please let us call a spade a spade. Don’t let us continue beating about the bush. What we are seeing on ground is more than a religious sect somewhere trying to upset the nation. We can see all kinds of Boko Haram with big time flavour in our nation. The price of liberty you and I know is vigilance. Let's be vigilant as citizens of our country. To kill a Christian, a Muslim or any human being that you cannot create is wickedness. I have said it over and over and over again here. One slowpoke saw me one day and said, ‘oh you are looking so young or have you gotten the Boko Haram connection. I just ignored him because he is a fool. Many of them have their brain under their sole. They wear the cross but they are far from Christ.
You have not been visible in the on-going merger talks between your party and other political parties. Do you have any problem with the merger?
What problem would I have with the merger? Each party has a merger committee so that they can go and deliberate and report back to the party. We have given them the authority, so we have to let them work. I have no problem with the merger process. I’m not a member of the committee. So, I’m not positioned to grant interviews on the process of the merger. Remember, I was the first person to move the motion in Abuja empowering CPC to go into merger talk with other parties. If the merger process is concluded then you’ll know who have problems with what.
Under the merger arrangement, do you still have a political ambition?
I have never had political ambition in my life. I sit here minding my business in championing SNG (Save Nigeria Group) to mobilise our people towards better governance. SNG is not working for any political party neither does it support the political ambition of anybody.
And as to the political ambition you are talking about, nobody can be a member of a non -existing party. It does not exist yet. I cannot sit down here and be nursing ambition in a party that has not been registered. I’m not so politically ambitious.
Are you still a member of the CPC?
Is CPC still alive? I’m a member of the B.O.T of CPC. But CPC is going into merger and it will cease to be immediately after the conclusion of the whole process. I’m not a politician who look for opportunity to corner anything.
If they consider me worthy, they will call on me. I’m a nation builder. When politicians think of next election, statesmen think of next generation. How Nigeria will be saved, changed and become great is my concern.
Do you have to be called upon? As a member of CPC, is it not fundamental that you key into the new party after the merger?
You have forgotten that Southern Cameroun used to be part of Nigeria and now is no longer part of Nigeria. The main reason I became part of CPC is because of General Buhari. I was not there when the party was being formed. I was part of CPC because one, I was invited, and secondly, I saw that there is a ray of hope there, that corruption will come to an end in our nation. When APC is formed, I’m not a person who gives up to frivolity. Strategy may change from time to time, but principle must remain firm.
What is your impression about the rising profile of former Lagos state governor, Bola Tinubu whom many describe as the emerging leader of the Yoruba?
I don’t have any comment about him (Tinubu). We have seen rising political figures in the Southwest before. We have seen those whose profile is larger than life. We have also seen the end of many of those figures. Therefore, I don’t have any comment about Bola Tinubu. I have only met him twice or thrice in my life. Except I have more facts about him. Those who are very close to him can talk about him. Whether he is a rising figure or not, is left for people who have long relationship with him. I don’t know.
Some describe him as a political leader of the Yoruba for now (cuts in)
Ask those people to give you their reason. Anybody can assume something. Assumption is the lowest level of knowledge. Those who are saying he (Tinubu) is the leader of Yoruba race, I hope they will still be part of human race when the time comes.


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Critics describe your prediction against Obasanjo in 1999 as a false prophecy coming from a man of God. What is your reaction?
I have lived long enough to know what to respond to and to know what to ignore. I would have expected that journalists, reputable media organisations like The Source, investigate the matter before jumping into conclusion. I have not recalled the tape from the archives. And there is no editing at all. I have heard people saying all sorts of things I never said. Some said I say Obasanjo will die. Some said I say Obasanjo will not be President. I can remember verbatim what I said on March 7, 1999 when I was preaching a message titled: No More Wars. And then the prophecy came that “Rejoice not yet, O land, for your joy will be temporary. I’m bringing your leaders to my pressing floor, and after I destroy them, I will return to you a permanent joy." That was it. The second stage was that if by any means Obasanjo became the President, three things will happen. Firstly, there will be the revival of the Occults, Secondly; family life will disintegrate in Nigeria; Thirdly, corruption will get to its peak. I gave those tapes to Obasanjo’s first wife when she came here to plead with me.
I can tell you things that happened. Architect Kola Balogun came here to say what can we do, that when I speak, he knows there is authority in it. And I told him not to risk his life. They later killed the man. I warned M.K.O Abiola that he’s embarking on a journey he’s not going to come back alive. I told him not to allow himself to be used. In 1993, I prophesied that NRC will lose, SDP will fail, military hierarchy will fall. They all mocked. I prophesied the election will be annulled. But when it happened. People recalled I said so. The tapes are there. Now you are singling out that I said Obasanjo will… people do not even know the content of the message. Over a thousand Pastors were gathered in Ota to pray against the prophecy. Is that the prophecy you are condemning? The man of God, Bishop Mike Okonkwo, when they were invited over the prophecy, came and asked me what do I say. I asked him what he saw too. And up till now, I’m still here. I’m not running away. If the prophet is not accurate, why do they gather people to pray against the message. It is not my duty to balance the story. I deliver the prophecy as God reveal it to me. When people repent and call unto God over a prophecy, God may relent, perhaps, who told you Obasanjo is free. Who told you he will not reap what he has sown. The prophecy of God may take a long time to manifest. I prophesised when I said when a killer wants to kill, he shall be killed. It came to pass when Abacha who wanted to kill Diya died mysteriously. Here we are now, Obasanjo forced the ill and the weak upon the nation and we are still unable to get out of the hook. May God help this nation.
The Save Nigeria Group, SNG, has been silent for some time. What happened?
Not at all. Are we silent when we were in Ojota for fuel hike protest? We brought Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN, to Lagos to come and explain to Nigerians why they were converting our Naira to Dollar before they disburse state allocations. We are not silent. We don’t just jump on the road. We see, we sit, we plan before we act.
Is there a crisis in SNG because sometime ago, someone claimed you have ceased to be the convener of the group, that you have been suspended. What is the true position?
Where are they? If you invited someone to your child naming ceremony. And the person says he does not like the name you gave your child and he walks away, does that make him the father of my baby? Please let's talk about important issues.
Now that you have ventured into partisan politics. Does it affect the SNG?
It will be inappropriate to dodge questions. There is no way that our participation in partisan politics will not be misconstrued by the mischief makers. Our desire is to seek reversal of policies that dehumanise Nigerians and those things that take dignity away from the people. But we cannot change policy without securing power. Aside from that, I wonder why people make mountain out of mole hills. But I know it’s because of limited knowledge. A man like late Gani Fawehinmi of blessed memory fought gallantly against every military and civilian government in this country. He used the law as instrument of his struggle. He later formed a party, the National Conscience Party (NCP), and contested on the platform of that political party. Does that take away his credibility? Likewise, Femi Falana, SAN whom we recently nicknamed a veteran of many progressive battles also ended up being the chairman of NCP. Does that remove his credibility. Wole Soyinka whose presence at the SNG rally added value to the protest in Abuja formed a political party and registered it. Does that take away his credibility? We must make up our minds as people in this country on what exactly we want. Do we want good people in politics or do we want the bad, the ugly to be in charge? Save Nigeria Group remains a civil society organisation. SNG, as a corporate body, will not align with any political party. Each member is at liberty to play politics outside the shore of the group. Yinka Odumakin and I and some other key players of SNG agreed not to compromise the standard of the group. Infact, it’s structured in such a way that even if some of us who venture into politics do anything wrong, SNG will still rise against us, so that they will bring us to order. SNG played an important role in the process that led to Jonathan’s presidency during the Yar’Adua health crisis. But when President Jonathan was going off, we went out also to let him know that we cannot continue business as usual. We challenged and put him into his position. SNG still remains a virile political organisation. Some said opposition sponsored us to Ojota for the fuel subsidy rally. That shows how uneducated many people are. There is no opposition in Nigeria, a situation where, in a presidential system, a party controls the centre and the majority in the parliament. It’s not a parliamentary system. Nobody sponsored us.
Talking about the Ojota rally, don’t you think some of your statements then were too ridiculous to the office of the President?
What were the utterances.
You called the President names. You said you disown him and that he is no more your President. You also called for regime change (cuts in).
I’m glad you are saying all these. What you will get from me always is to stand by my words and actions I will never deny what I said. SNG was not in charge of the NLC and TUC strike. But we mobilised Nigerians to Ojota. And we made up our minds before then that we are not going to be chasing shadows. We are saying that corruption needed to be killed, not Nigerians. And corruption is the bane of our country. It is the real issue. For Christ sake, we marched on the streets for Jonathan to be President. It occurred to me that God commanded Samuel to go and anoint Saul and later God called Samuel that He rejected Saul from being King. Go and anoint somebody else. In a democratic setting like ours, it has to take four years unless God intervenes in any other way. I preached here on how to change government peacefully. The SSS came after me. I gave them the document that any government that enjoys corruption should be rejected by the people. We are against the corruption of the regime. Now, you are the judge whether your life is better now after 14 years of PDP ruling in Nigeria. Is the country progressing?
Do you think the Ojota rally achieved its goal?
That is judged by the fact that the government reviewed downward the pump price. Initially, President Jonathan was adamant. He later bent his stand. That is one achievement of the rally. Who buckled? Who rolled out tanks, used military to harass us for exercising our constitutional rights? They never knew the turnout would be like that. And they could easily take out NLC and TUC. They also knew we cannot be bought. So, they used the military to deprive us of our fundamental right. The same regime we fought to install few years back. And the same Nigerians who voted for President Jonathan in 2011 later became subject of intimidation, and were forcefully dispatched against their wish. The government used force to remove us at Ojota, and used money against others.
It seems you always criticise without seeing any good thing in any government.
I’m not a critical spirit. A critical sprit is the evidence of false ministry. Let me remind you. When Yar’Adua came into power. I saw a President who was a former lecturer. I saw the Vice President who has a Ph.D. I saw a Minister of Education who seems to be equal to the task. I began this song here that may the reign of Yar’Adua be a blessing to all. Then, his performance as a governor in Katsina, then he was the first President to openly declare his asset. It’s so unfortunate that sickness did not allow him to perform. So, I didn’t criticise Yar’Adua. In fact, I can give you a tape where I prayed that the king is not dead. But Yar’Adua's health challenges had been there before. It may have been the reason why he left so much money in the Katsina treasury because money is not supposed to be kept but to be invested on the lives of the people.. I don’t criticise every leader. We did Democracy Audit on June 12 and we invited the Jonathan government to come and exhibit their performance. And Information Minister, Labaran Maku was sent to represent the regime.
Some of your admirers describe your venturing into politics as a costly gamble.
How much did it cost them? If the gamble is costly, how costly was it to them? I don’t gamble anyway. Let me share this with you. David was a shephered. The Bible says in Psalm 78: 70-72 that “He also chose David, His servant, and took him from the sheepfolds." From following the eves that had young, He brought him, to sheperd Jacob His people, and Israel His inheritance. “So, he shephereds them according to the integrity of his heart, and guided them by the skillfulness of his hands.” It says I took David from following the sheeps to shephered Israel. And he shephereds Israel with the integrity of his heart. There is transition in the role a pastor can play. A pastor can be called to pastor a nation. A good example is found in the Bible. David was a king, he was a prophet, he was a servant and there was no gambling in it. It is ordered by God. If you look at the involvement of ministers of God in politics, you will discover its importance. In America, although Martin Luther King did not contest for any election, his influence produced a Black man in the White House. If they had known a black man would be there, they would have called A White and Black House. But, one man has a dream and he spoke it out. If you look at South Africa, you’ll see the role of Bishops. The Pope is not only the Head of the Catholics, but also head of a nation. So if it is good for the Pope, its good for me.
Does your involvement in politics have any effect on your church?
Let me tell you one thing. Throughout the election, despite the fact that we were campaigning from place to place, I missed Sunday service only one day. That day, I was in Maiduguri, and I could not fly to Lagos.
If you had won the election, would you have been coming from Abuja every Sunday?
If we won the election, protocol may not permit me to come from Abuja every Sunday. That is why the leadership of Latter Rain Assembly is not centered on a single man. Right now, I don’t preach here every Sunday. But I come to Church every Sunday. I don’t even come here during the week. Pastoring is not my occupation. It is my vocation. It is the calling of God upon me. Our Lord Jesus was a carpenter for 18 years, from the age of 12. He did ministry for three and half years and He changed the world. When Joseph brought his brothers to meet Pharaoh, he told them Pharaoh will only ask you one question, and that is what is your occupation. Jobless entities now start churches because they have no job. Paul who wrote two third of the New Testament was a real estate manager in his days. Peter was a fisherman. Mathew was a tax collector, Elisha was a farmer. God does not call lazy or jobless people.
Now, if security will not permit me to pastor here every Sunday, I have raised enough ministers of God. By the way, what happens if I die? I’m not immortal. If I die, the ministry continues.

Why are you not interested in having multiple branches of your church?
No pastor can pastor two churches. God created nations and imaginations. Men devised denominations. To denominate is to divide, men did it for their own sake. I’m not saying it is wrong to plant churches. Latter Rain Assembly has missionaries in Morocco, Tunisia and in Sudan. And many people I have raised here planted churches. And I supported those ones. Every church planted must be self actualising. But what we have today is Macdonald franchising whereby we have seven churches belong to same organisation on the same street. It’s Macdonald franchise.
Do you believe you and Buhari could have won the election. And what impact could you have made?
That is now for people to analyse. Firstly, I do not see credibility in the 2011 general elections. It was not free and fair as Jonathan is claiming. And if it was, when Justice Salami ordered for the ballot papers to be brought to the tribunal, government said it will amount to security breach. They dismantled the tribunal, set up another one in the same court. That was the first time I saw a situation where the court, said they were not bound by the ruling of a previous tribunal. If they brought the ballot papers to court you would have seen that the election was highly rigged.
Another point was that CPC was registered few months before the general election. Within four months of registration, the party had 12 million votes. Even Obasanjo said that Buhari is a spirit, that it will take a spirit to gather such multitude in a short while. We did not have much presence in the South east as well as South west. But you know that Jonathan did not just win the election in the South west, but some people opened the door for him to win because they did not have their ways.
By the way, the first round of election was not favourable to Jonathan. That was why it was stopped. I remember that I received a call from one of my former lecturers who told me that, it was clear CPC is winning the election. They canceled it and hinged their action on short supply of ballot materials. They used the instrument of incumbency to stage-manage things. We had the opportunity to win the election. That was why people went to the streets because they believed they were robbed, but we never instigated anybody to go on rampage. In fact, we went to court to calm people down, assuring them that we will get justice in the court.
But people believed Buhari's statement before and after the election incited people into violence (cuts in)?
What was the statement. Can you say it. Rueben Abati said so, but he later recanted. In fact, Abati had to formally write us to apologise. What the retired General said in Hausa language is that if two elephants fight, the grasses will suffer. In other words, he was only telling them to line up and defend their votes. He did not ask them to go and burn places.
I remember one day, during electioneering, we were in Port Harcourt, Governor Rotimi Amaechi was there, and some traditional rulers. Somebody got up and said, we have a better chance and that if we didn’t win the election, it’s going to be bloody. That day, General Buhari swiftly responded that nothing will make it bloody because he’s not a bloody man.
When violence started after the election, many people started calling us, asking General Buhari to issue a statement to calm the tension. Late Owoye Azazi called me and I told him its not about me. I also wondered why President Jonathon said nothing until six days after the election because he has lost all moral spirit to say anything. I’m one of those who persuaded Buhari to speak before he made a statement pleading that people should sheath their sword. A day after the election, Buhari was coming from Katsina, the mob attaked him, and caused some damage to him. They did not know he was the one.
Former Minister El-Rufai once described Buhari as an unelectable presidential material. Could that be the reason why he lost the election?
Well, he must have his reason to say so. Perhaps, he has said so many good things about him. Why are you now singling that out? He said a lot of positive things about him.
Do you agree with the view that El-Rufai became an opposition element because he was unable to get what he wanted in Yar’Adua and Jonathan’s regimes?
I don’t know where you get your information, but I know El-Rufai was offered series of positions which he rejected. I’m aware Jonathan offered him a lot of position in government. He refused and he said he cannot work with PDP anymore. He said PDP has become a chicken that eats its own intestine.
Why do you think your fellow ministers of God and other Christians failed to support you during the 2011 election?
Where did you get your fact from. I can tell you some key leaders who did not only support us, but also gave me money to execute the project. Powerful pastors and notable Christians, including non Christians, muslim scholars and faithful, contributed in no small measure towards my political ambition.
People thought the leadership of CAN, PFN and other Christian bodies would have come out openly to support your aspiration (cuts in)
Which CAN? The CAN that has been rewarded with a private jet? Don’t forget Jesus himself said it in the Bible in John Chapter 6 verse 56 that many will depart from him and work with him no more. That’s Jesus. If they walk away from Jesus, who else can they be honest to? You should know that those who love darkness cannot play game with light. They are afraid of their selfish lives. That if Buhari and Bakare should emerge in the government, they will not be able to continue the waivers and excesses they are getting. That does not mean some of their key leaders did not support me. I can show you the video tape where Pastor Adeboye said that he’s happy that his son is now running that he prayed and did a lot of things in support. But many say one thing and do another.
But the same Adeboye prayed and anointed President Jonathan?
Look, you cannot stop a man of God from praying for anybody not even the president. The Bible says you must pray for those in authority of power. It doesn’t say how. Some will pray for them to perpetuate their rule while some will pray for them to go.
What is your view on the state of the nation. The build up to 2015 is already generating heat and the crisis in the Governors Forum is yet to abate?
I don’t react to such things. If Nigerian Governors cannot hold a simple election among themselves, I doubt if there is hope for the future of the country, except Nigerians take back their sovereignty from the hands of those who should be behind the bar. Because they have wrecked our nation and bastardised our infrastructural development. I have no comment in the show of shame that is going on in Nigerian Governors Forum.
But as far as 2015 is concerned, I still stand by my conviction that there would be election before 2015. I have seen the vision and I pray over it day and night.
Because if things continue like this to 2015. If God does not intervene in the affairs of the nation before 2015, we may just kiss Nigeria good bye. I tell you what I mean. The Northerners are saying that unless a northerner emerges as president, we would kiss Nigeria goodbye. The South south and Southeast say if Jonathan did not get renewal mandate, we should forget about Nigeria. So, we need God to intervene and help us before 2015. By the way, so that nobody will misunderstand me or say we are calling for a coup, if we must follow the question, then election must be held in 2014. The constitutional provision requires six month to run the election. I pray to God to intervene because I forsee desperate people who are ready to set the whole nation ablaze because of political ambition. We should pray fervently to God to save Nigeria from disintegration and save Nigerians from the hands of the devils in disguise. It was a lecture on one Sunday, and when the SSS came and asked if I was calling for a coup, I said they said so, not me. I gave them copy of the tape.
El-Rufai also wrote in his book that Obasanjo wanted to support Buhari in 2011. Were you aware?
I was aware. Obasanjo sent El-Rufai to Buhari and he came to me. I urged him to join CPC so that I can have a formidable team to boost the economy because the role of the Vice President is actually to run the economy of the nation. Obasanjo gave the condition if they can drop me and pick Okonjo-Iweala. We were in Transcorp Hilton. I was happy then because I have not filled the form. I told Buhari five reasons why he must allow Ngozi to be his running mate. But he said there is mischief down the road. Buhari does not trust Obasanjo. And truly the reason why he was fighting Jonathan was because Jonathan did not give his daughter Senatorial ticket. When the situation changed he reversed his decision. The man, Obasanjo is one of our problem in this country.
Do you ever regret working to ensure Jonathan became acting President?
I have never regretted my action because I did not do it for Jonathan, but I did it for constitutionality. And I will do it again even if it is a goat that is there? It’s a march to save Nigeria not anybody.
What is your impression about Obasanjo being the longest serving President in Nigeria?
I’m sure wherever Obasanjo sits now, he will sometimes reflect that he blew the opportunity to be the greatest Nigerian that ever lives. He would have gone down in history as a father of a great nation. But he was so concerned about being the father of modern Nigeria. And I said to people that modern schools were not good schools in those days. We want a new nation not a modern one. Obasanjo has been a lucky man all over his life. He did little compared to the likes of black scorpion, Benjamin Adekunle, a Colonel, who fought during the civil war. Yet he got a lot of accolades when Biafrans surrendered. Obasanjo did not participate in the 1975 coup that toppled Gowon, but he benefited from it. He became a deputy to Murtala Muhammed. He had the privilege to hand over in 1979 to a civilian administration. He was the first military Head of State to do so in our country. He became famous in the whole world. From there, Abacha put him in prison. Like Joseph, he was called out again to come and be the nation’s president where he reigned uninterruptedly for eight years. I have only met him twice in life. And whenever I see him now, I’m going to ask him a question. Who killed MKO Abiola? The reason to direct such question to him is simple. Because the only time IBB came back to the South after he fled to the North since he left power was the time he came to request Obasanjo to run for the president of Nigeria. And I understand all that happened. MKO paid for Obasanjo’s life. I still don’t believe MKO died a natural death. Later or sooner, the truth will be known. Obasanjo sabotaged the destiny of this nation by imposing the sick and the weak upon us. That was to retaliate on the entire nation that he was not given the opportunity of third term in office. Ever since they voted out the third term agenda, Obasanjo has never remained the same. He’s trying to bounce back now but let us see whether he will be able to fool us again.
How would you describe Christianity in Nigeria as regard to commercialisation of Christendom and the craze for private jets by pastors?
I don’t blame jet pastors. And I don’t blame anyone who commercialise Christianity. You blame those that patronise them. If they open their shops and people do not go there, they won’t continue what they are doing. Some people must be benefiting from what they are doing. The Bible says like the people like the pastor. Not the other way round.
What is your assessment on Jonathan’s mid term report?
To whom much is given, much is required. Jonathan will be remembered as a Nigerian who assumed power without a godfather. He rose from deputy governor to the presidency within ten years. A speed record. He will make history as shoeless school boy who assumed power and disallowed Nigerians from walking again.

You can always trust Tunde Bakare to tell it as it is.

This is an Epistle......














Need to sleep first before I can read this.

Eko Ile come and hear dis O°˚˚˚ . I tot some peeps are saying GEJ is de cause of under development in naija. Gbawe, Eko Ile, oya tell us that Pst Bakare is not saying de truth.

Despite the length of the interview, it was still interesting!! He only went deep on obansanjo!! How I wish he went more deeper on GEJ and tinibu!!

But this man has bad mouth oh!! How will he call some churches Shops!! LOL!!

I respect this man's views and courage a great deal.

I just hate the fact that he is a pastor and that he claims to be prophetic. This makes him appear either arrogantly delusional or a conman

bilms: Critics describe your prediction against Obasanjo in 1999 as a false prophecy coming from a man of God. What is your reaction?
I can remember verbatim what I said on March 7, 1999 when I was preaching a message titled: No More Wars. And then the prophecy came that “Rejoice not yet, O land, for your joy will be temporary. I’m bringing your leaders to my pressing floor, and after I destroy them, I will return to you a permanent joy." That was it. [size=16pt]The second stage was that if by any means Obasanjo became the President, three things will happen. Firstly, there will be the revival of the Occults, Secondly; family life will disintegrate in Nigeria; Thirdly, corruption will get to its peak.[/size] I gave those tapes to Obasanjo’s first wife when she came here to plead with me.

Now i don't know about this man, but believe his predictions is exactly what happened .

I need to pay somebody to read this for me.

@OP, please are you high?

How do you want me to read this?

Please summarise it!

Biko! Na beg i they beg you!

What happened in 1993 where there was no winner between NRC and SDP would definately happen in the year 2015. Quote me then.

Talk more of the boko haram sects,

Obasanjo no doubt is without flaws BUT He has set good precedence for the democracy of this country which subsequent administration could not even totally eradicated but adopt many of his Programs and Ideology (Not totally objective though) !!!



Nigeria woulda been more greater and better if subsequent administration could continue at Obasanjo's Pace !!!


MY OPINION !!!

donroxy: Obasanjo no doubt is without flaws BUT He has set good precedence for the democracy of this country which subsequent administration could not even totally eradicated but adopt many of his Programs and Ideology (Not totally objective though) !!!



Nigeria woulda been more greater and better if subsequent administration could continue at Obasanjo's Pace !!!


MY OPINION !!!

How would Nigeria be greater with a man that sold piece by piece every asset Nigeria has to his imperialist friends ?
A man that colluded with IMF/World Bank to devalue the Nigerian currency leaving the masses with useless papers and devaluing the hard work of the people .
A man that instituted corruption in Nigeria and turned it to norms, he hijacked the only institution(EFCC) to fight corruption and further destroyed it together with the zeal the people embraced democracy with.

He is the man that ultimately killed Nigeria because he had the opportunity to realize a true democratic nation but instead he made the people wishing for the days of Buhari and Abacha.

Very well said!

thoth:
How would Nigeria be greater with a man that sold piece by piece every asset Nigeria has to his imperialist friends ?
A man that colluded with IMF/World Bank to devalue the Nigerian currency leaving the masses with useless papers and devaluing the had work of the people .
A man that instituted corruption in Nigeria and turned it to norms, he hijacked the only institution(EFCC) to fight corruption and further destroyed it together with the zeal the people embraced democracy with.

He is the man that ultimately killed Nigeria because he had the opportunity to realize a true democratic nation but instead he made the people wishing for the days of Buhari and Abacha.

thoth:
How would Nigeria be greater with a man that sold piece by piece every asset Nigeria has to his imperialist friends ?


A man that colluded with IMF/World Bank to devalue the Nigerian currency leaving the masses with useless papers and devaluing the had work of the people .


A man that instituted corruption in Nigeria and turned it to norms, he hijacked the only institution(EFCC) to fight corruption and further destroyed it together with the zeal the people embraced democracy with.

He is the man that ultimately killed Nigeria because he had the opportunity to realize a true democratic nation but instead he made the people wishing for the days of Buhari and Abacha.

Thoth,U have to be explicit here,Under OBJ's Civilian regime,Elrufai was the Chairman of BPE , an agency responsible for selling/privatising/transfering of Federal Government assets :::::::::: tell us who,who and whom among ''OBJ's imperialist friends'' that Federal Govt asset were sold to ?


As for ur point Number 2 unto DEVALUATION, I think u re referring to IBB's Regime(Buhari's Husband) !!!


3. Corruption has never been defeated in Nigeria prior to and After Obasanjo's regime . Obasanjo was the only democratic president in the history of Federal Republic of Nigeria that defeated corruption ; Favouritism ; Nepotism ; Neo-colonialism through this very Hardworking and Illustrious citizen of Nigeria Nuhu Ribadu, the fear of Nuhu Ribadu is the beginning of wisdom for all corrupt citizen , hmmm what is EFCC today under Waziri, and Lamorde !!!


Infact,Most Obasanjo's friends went to Jail,Senators were handcuffed,a whole IG of Police was Jailed,Minister died in Jail, Only Obj's admin achieved this feat against people that pampered criminals in the name of Pardon !!!


4. Baba was the man that ultimately revitalised Nigeria of today,His legacy,projects and programmes are all difficult to be trashed and dumped,all what subsequent administration did was to modified Baba's programmes and Re-launch it simply cuz, Baba brought in technocrats who are technically endowed to initiate all those policies and genuinely,they were all ratified by Baba!!!



Obasanjo is never gonna be our best but He tried his best and He is not without flaws as I also believed He could do better,they could all do better !!!


Really, If subsequent administration moved @ the pace of Obj,Nigeria woulda surpassed this level by great magnitutude !!!


But here we are ; Yar'adua was deemed slow and sick while Jonathan is deemed too Gentle,indecision and utmostly,being pushed by his clansman say na dem turn to chop clean mouth !!!!


I strongly believe we shall Get there,God bless Nigeria !!!

GenBuhari: Very well said!

Wetin well said !!!

A man that will take us back to the antics and tactics of 80s should not be presented !!!!


Buhari should just support Ribadu for APC presidential slot for 2015!!!


I am aware u have been conducting crusade for GenBuhari on Nairaland,Am not expecting any 80s C-in-C anymore, they should give us Backup role not mainstream role !!!

donroxy: Thoth,U have to be explicit here,Under OBJ Civilian regime,Elrufai was the Chairman of BPE , an agency responsible for selling/privatising/transfering of Federal Government assets :::::::::: tell us who,who and whom among ''OBJ's imperialist friends'' that Federal Govt asset were sold to ?

what happened to the Nigerian steel industry under Obasanjo ?
What happened to the $16 billion Obasanjo allocated for power during his regime ?
Can you justify the imperialistic,exploitative and destructive rights that were signed off to multinationals like MTN under Obasanjo ?
Why has the Niger Delta still agitating if not for obasanjo's policies in collaboration with the foreign oil companies which continues to suck away the wealth of the nation ?

As for ur point Number 2 unto DEVALUATION, I think u re referring to IBB's Regime(Buhari's Husband)!!!


3. Corruption has never been defeated in Nigeria prior to and After Obasanjo's regime . Obasanjo was the only democratic president in the history of Federal Republic of Nigeria that defeated corruption ; Favouritism ; Nepotism ; Neo-colonialism through this very Hardworking and Illustrious citizen of Nigeria Nuhu Ribadu, the fear of Nuhu Ribadu is the beginning of wisdom for all corrupt citizen , hmmm what is EFCC today under Waziri and Lamorde !!!


Infact,Most Obasanjo's friends went to Jail,Senators were handcuffed,a whole IG of Police was Jailed,Minister died in Jail, Only Obj's admin achieved this feat against people that pampered criminals in the name of Pardon !!!


4. Baba was the man that ultimately revitalised Nigeria of today,His legacy,projects and programmes are all difficult to be trashed and dumped,all what subsequent administration did was to modified Baba's programmes and Re-launch it simply cuz, Baba brought in technocrats.



Obasanjo is never gonna be our best but He tried his best and He is not without flaws as I also believed He could do better,they could all do better !!!


Really, If subsequent administration moved @ the pace of Obj,Nigeria woulda surpassed this level by great magnitutude !!!


But here we are ; [b]Yar'adua was deemed slow and sick while Jonathan is deemed too Gentle,indecision and utmostly,being pushed by his clansman say na dem turn to chop clean mouth !!!!


May God Bless Nigeria !!!

maybe i will just list it as it is and you choose which ones suits you best.

What is Obasanjo's crime against Nigeria

Massacre of Tiv civilians in Zaki Biam Benue State

Impoverishment of the Nigerian Masses by 500% devaluation of Naira.

Mismanagement and closure of our National Airline Nigeria Airways

Massacre of thousands of villagers in Odi, Bayelsa State in Niger Delta

Taking IMF loans and implementing damaging economic policies

Increasing fuel prices by 500%

Deceiving Nigeria by claiming fuel was subsidised

As military ruler, using the funds /land for "Operation Feed Nation" to acquire his Ota farm

Covertly sponsoring the coup in which Muritala Mohammad was assassinated, and executing dozens of people to cover up

Closing Petroleum Trust Fund and allowing Infrastructural decay

Presiding during collapse of electrical power supply in entire eastern region

Inviting US military into Nigeria and exposing national security secrets

Making himself minister of Petroleum and failing to have his management of oil revenue audited till this very day

Embezzling and estimated $120bn or approx N20 trillion

Sold off all of Nigeria's assets including Oil Blocks , Refineries, Electricity Authority, National, Telecommunications and historical buildings etc.

Buying up the national assets he privatised at a price that is a tiny fraction of its true value

Giving away Bakassi peninsula without a national referendum or conference

Mismanaging our national pension fund and presiding whilst $15bn went missing and denying pensioners their pensions

Deceiving Nigerians that Abacha' government was a bad, to justify undoing most of Abacha's good work

Presiding over the worst period of political assassinations in Nigeria's history
approx 20 assassinations including Bola Ige

If you can not read this, go and read the transformation agenda of GEJ. fresh air

Hmmm, dem copied ''Crimes of Obasanjo from Nairaland''


lets see how it goes; here are my rebuttals !!!

thoth:
what happened to the Nigerian steel industry under Obasanjo ?


What happened to the $16 billion Obasanjo allocated for power during his regime ?


Can you justify the imperialistic,exploitative and destructive rights that were signed off to multinationals like MTN under Obasanjo ?


Why has the Niger Delta still agitating if not for obasanjo's policies in collaboration with the foreign oil companies which continues to suck away the wealth of the nation ?




maybe i will just list it as it is and you choose which ones suits you best.

What is Obasanjo's crime against Nigeria

Massacre of Tiv civilians in Zaki Biam Benue State

Impoverishment of the Nigerian Masses by 500% devaluation of Naira.

Mismanagement and closure of our National Airline Nigeria Airways


Massacre of thousands of villagers in Odi, Bayelsa State in Niger Delta

Taking IMF loans and implementing damaging economic policies

Increasing fuel prices by 500%

Deceiving Nigeria by claiming fuel was subsidised

As military ruler, using the funds /land for "Operation Feed Nation" to acquire his Ota farm

Covertly sponsoring the coup in which Muritala Mohammad was assassinated, and executing dozens of people to cover up

Closing Petroleum Trust Fund and allowing Infrastructural decay

Presiding during collapse of electrical power supply in entire eastern region

Inviting US military into Nigeria and exposing national security secrets

Making himself minister of Petroleum and failing to have his management of oil revenue audited till this very day

Embezzling and estimated $120bn or approx N20 trillion

Sold off all of Nigeria's assets including Oil Blocks , Refineries, Electricity Authority, National, Telecommunications and historical buildings etc.

Buying up the national assets he privatised at a price that is a tiny fraction of its true value

Giving away Bakassi peninsula without a national referendum or conference

Mismanaging our national pension fund and presiding whilst $15bn went missing and denying pensioners their pensions

Deceiving Nigerians that Abacha' government was a bad, to justify undoing most of Abacha's good work

Presiding over the worst period of political assassinations in Nigeria's history
approx 20 assassinations including Bola Ige

And what Happened to the steel industry under Obasanjo,Did he collapsed the Steel Industry or revitalised it,Privatised it without further commitment abi na wetin ?
I also believed more should have been done in the Steel Industry but Holistically,Is the blame on Steel Industry exclusive to Obj !!!


Despite the fact that those who should know and did know all about the monies spent by government including Governor Soludo of the Central Bank and the Accountant-General of the Federation comingout loud and clear on national Television at the panel to say that only 3.6 billion dollars had been released as at 2008 for the National Independent Power Projects, the media continued to assert and still lie today that Obasanjo spent 16 billion dollars on the NIP projects.

The beauty of it however is that the NIPP programme designed and implemented by Obasanjo, derided by the then government and his enemies is today the corner stone of the government’ energy policy.



U see, One of the reason why Nigeria has been chosen as the economic Hub of Africa is not about Her potentials alone but Sane Business Environment and Cooperative Government which is Guaranteed Also, the Domestic Telecommunication Industry were they not resuscitated ? Glo/Mtel !!!



All Your criticism were based on insinuations, so Obj conspired with Foreign Multinationals to suck ND oil wealth ; U have to butressed this insinuation by providing more factual details !!!



As much as I strongly condemned Massacre of Civilian population, in the same measure, the civilian population must also learn NOT to massacre the Security Operatives detailed to ensure and maintain peace and security of the Nation !!!



Which Naira was devalued , was Naira Officially Devalued or Forces of Demand and Supply forced it down, shed more light and stop insinuating !!!



What was the status of Nigerian Airways before it was shutdown,how many planes were there ::::::: See don't just click on many crimes of Obasanjo as posted on NLand,conduct little research and get ur fact right ,Do not be part of people that propagate falsehood.


Mention Two-three damaging policies of president Obasanjo,I need facts, Gimme Two policies that Obasanjo implemented that were damaging to the economy of our Nation !!!


I would have criticised Obj on construction of refineries and resuscitation of Existing refineries and NOT 500% increment of fuel, simply cuz, wether we like it or not, Fuel Subsidy Should be removed , Govt should just institute measures to cushion the Harsh effect of Subsidy Removal !!!


Obasanjo used WTF to acquire OTA farm, u really need to come up with more fact !!!

^ Lies lies lies

everybody knows Obj was the worst disaster to befall Nigeria

@toth
Good one!
Obj gave our land in Bakassi without consulting the nation.

Mismanaged and liquidised Nigeria Airways our national carrier.

Pension scandals and petroleum subsidy scandals and over-inflated salaries of politicians ($2m each) all commenced during his administration.

Sharia was introduced during Obj reign and planted the seeds for Boko Haram

In his first year Nigeria became most corrupt nation in the world from 27th most corrupt prior to Obj

thoth:
Covertly sponsoring the coup in which Muritala Mohammad was assassinated, and executing dozens of people to cover up

Closing Petroleum Trust Fund and allowing Infrastructural decay

Presiding during collapse of electrical power supply in entire eastern region

Inviting US military into Nigeria and exposing national security secrets

Making himself minister of Petroleum and failing to have his management of oil revenue audited till this very day

Embezzling and estimated $120bn or approx N20 trillion

Sold off all of Nigeria's assets including Oil Blocks , Refineries, Electricity Authority, National, Telecommunications and historical buildings etc.

Buying up the national assets he privatised at a price that is a tiny fraction of its true value

Giving away Bakassi peninsula without a national referendum or conference

Mismanaging our national pension fund and presiding whilst $15bn went missing and denying pensioners their pensions

Deceiving Nigerians that Abacha' government was a bad, to justify undoing most of Abacha's good work

Presiding over the worst period of political assassinations in Nigeria's history
approx 20 assassinations including Bola Ige
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Hmmm, U really need to shed more light on how Obj plotted coup against Murtala,the tactics and strategy he adopted , (funny people ) !!!


What was PTF's status before it was closed down,Money draining agency without result and U expect Obj to fold his hands and watched them loot-it-all !!! Why should this man be blamed for ensuring/requesting for accountability,transparency and integrity ::::::: Infact I think NDDC should be shutdown and her activities reviewed !!



Hmmm,electrical supply to east was collapsed and never resuscitated abi,hmmm


Which Invite was that, US Military/Security Departments and Nigerian Security Departments have always been known to collaborate one-another ; so which Invite u talking about !!

Or U mean AFCOM ?


Yes,I strongly criticised Baba for managing Petroleum for himself then,later I realised how petroleum was highly crucial to Nigerian Economy thus Baba really need to witnessed by himself what has been transpiring in that sector and subsequently, the Oil sector was relinquished by Baba and a Minister appointed,Capische !!!


Which 120trillion,where did such fund emanate; shed more lights not insinuations ;


Check most developed economies of the world,resources are managed by the private sector with Government serving as regulatory body incase of sabotage of citizens :::::::::: Don't we have better Telecommunication compared with Nitel,PHCN compared with NEPA,Refineries woulda been operative but for non-removal of Subsidy !!! Infact,Baba deserve As in this regard !!!


Which National Asset was bought by his Him and Friends and how much undervalued amount was paid !!!


So ,Obj gave Bakassi away,how much History do u even know,Bakassi has been ceded to Cameroun Colonial Master probably before Obj was born, abeg,Go and read more on Bakassi !!



Hahahaha, so pension fund was mismanaged under Obj's regime to the tune of 15billion ''dollars'' not even ''Naira'' and ahahaha,I think U are referring to Jonathan/Maina !!!


Abacha's 23billion looted fund has just been recovered barely 48hours ago ; U really enjoyed Abacha's regime,pathetic U !!!



Yes, It was a very gloomy period,the assasinations as well as Do/Die politics and IWU's manipulations of Elections ; I strongly criticised Baba for all these Alas,Do/Die politics was approached by Baba in a militaristic manner in order to salvage Nigeria from Political Gladiators and Saboteur ; I strongly condemned suc Approach which claimed lives of the finest citizens !!!


Thoth,I will advise U to read beyond what Nigerian Newspaper feed U with as they are business ventures that always capture what always fancied their market without recourse to thorough investigation other than ''a source closer to another source'' !!!

[b]Obasanjo has not managed the resources of Nigeria optimally no doubt But He is still the Best among the other C-in-C !!!


And in Order for U to be fair and objective; why can't U research on the positive ways Baba has elevated this country !!!


Hmmm !!!

GenBuhari: ^ Lies lies lies

everybody knows Obj was the worst disaster to befall Nigeria

@toth
Good one!
Obj gave our land in Bakassi without consulting the nation.

Mismanaged and liquidised Nigeria Airways our national carrier.

Pension scandals and petroleum subsidy scandals and over-inflated salaries of politicians ($2m each) all commenced during his administration.

Sharia was introduced during Obj reign and planted the seeds for Boko Haram

In his first year Nigeria became most corrupt nation in the world from 27th most corrupt prior to Obj

Let me start with Sharia simply cuz there was already rebuttal for ur other points above !!!


U see, GenBuhari, in the spirit of Federalism, Sharia System of Government is not a failure on the part of Obj as states could make Laws via there State Assembly as they deemed fit in relation to the custom and norms of their people as far as such law is not conflicting with the law guiding the Federation in which the later (federal law) would prevailed !!!

So Blame the state elders who adopted Sharia Law but were not able to manage extremist and NOT OBJ !!!


No administration has ever been devoted and conquered Corruption as Obasanjo/Ribadu's tenure NOT even the Illegitimate Rtd Gen. Buhari's regime!!!

donroxy: Let me start with Sharia simply cuz there was already rebuttal for ur other points above !!!


U see, GenBuhari, in the spirit of Federalism, Sharia System of Government is not a failure on the part of Obj as states could make Laws via there State Assembly as they deemed fit in relation to the custom and norms of their people as far as such law is not conflicting with the law guiding the Federation in which the later (federal law) would prevailed !!!

So Blame the state elders who adopted Sharia Law but were not able to manage extremist and NOT OBJ !!!


No administration has ever been devoted and conquered Corruption as Obasanjo/Ribadu's tenure NOT even the Illegitimate Rtd Gen. Buhari's regime!!!

A goverment which is not evil would have done its analysis and see the resulting effect of such policies, i do believe OBJ did his analysis and the consquensces were presented to him, but his western puppet masters adviced him to push on with sharia knowing fully well that it would create the avenue to balkanize the nation, my composition Syria has more Muslims than Nigeria, so is turkey and many other nations which have a higher percentage of muslims to other religions...Are they running on sharia law ? even a part of it ? don't make excuses for what is plain ineptitude and savage disinterest in what is best for the people, that man OBJ only cares about his pocket, his cronies who aids him in his looting and his perverted pleasure he gains from seeing people suffer.

All i listed above has not be countered elsewhere and no reasonable explanation has ever been given to make any of those actions plausible.

Thief Obasanjo fought against corruption? Are you kidding me?

Thief Obasanjo institutionalised corruption.

So many scandal emerged after he left office, that never occured during Abacha's era including:
Halliburton,
Fuel Subsidy
pensions
$16Billion (N2.5Trillion)power scam
Liquidation of Savanah Bank
Third term bribery
Political Assassinations
Raising annual pay of politicians to N350million ($2.2million) each!

Huh

oh and..
Thief Obasanjo also raided Thisday newspaper' offices after they started to expose his corruption.

lol

thoth:

A goverment which is not evil would have done its analysis and see the resulting effect of such policies, i do believe OBJ did his analysis and the consquensces were presented to him, but his western puppet masters adviced him to push on with sharia knowing fully well that it would create the avenue to balkanize the nation, my composition Syria has more Muslims than Nigeria, so is turkey and many other nations which have a higher percentage of muslims to other religions...Are they running on sharia law ? even a part of it ? don't make excuses for what is plain ineptitude and savage disinterest in what is best for the people, that man OBJ only cares about his pocket, his cronies who aids him in his looting and his perverted pleasure he gains from seeing people suffer.

All i listed above has not be countered elsewhere and no reasonable explanation has ever been given to make any of those actions plausible.

Thoth,Na wa for U oooo, What is the business of Federal Govt with laws/policies of State Govt in a Federal System Of Govt Unless such Sharia Law contravene/conflict with Federal Laws , In Such Situation, Federal Law shall prevail while Sharia Law would be suspended !!!


It is highly abuse of power and Unconstitutional for Obasanjo to put-Up a Stop for Sharia Law !!!


Thoth,Go and read more on Federalism,U re Ignorance of the concept of Federal system !!!


Forget Syria,Turkey bla,bla ; are they Federal System States ? If they are ,How much Freedom does their federating units enjoy !!!



See , am not here to convince U as U can always believe what u wanna believe, am only here to set the record straight for U !!!

GenBuhari: Thief Obasanjo fought against corruption? Are you kidding me?

Thief Obasanjo institutionalised corruption.

So many scandal emerged after he left office, that never occured during Abacha's era including:
Halliburton,
Fuel Subsidy
pensions
$16Billion (N2.5Trillion)power scam
Liquidation of Savanah Bank
Third term bribery
Political Assassinations
Raising annual pay of politicians to N350million ($2.2million) each!

What do U mean by Institutionalising of Corruption by Baba,How was corruption institutionalised by Baba oya now tell me ooo, BabaBuhari ?



Which Scandals; all those scandals,tell me the involvement of Baba in them::::::::::: SCANDAL CAN OCCUR IN ANY bleeping WHERE WHAT MATTERS IS HOW GOVT AGENCY NABBED IT AND ALLOW RULE OF LAW TO PREVAIL

Haliburton chief executive went to Jail Kudos to RIBADU !!!


So, ''Bankruptcy'' Savannah bank should be left to ruin stakeholders and not liquidated, hmmm, This is why we don't want BubuHari and 80s sense of business!!!



Check above for the rest rebuttals