even supreme court go hear this matter. Una wan spoil Gen. Ihejirika good work for army?

thelastPope:

What is the right thing? a federal high court made a ruling. Who told you they are right? It will definitely continue up to the supreme court to get a clear interpretation of the law.

On another note, I havent heard of a country that sends their service chiefs nominees to the legislators to approve. There are things that a president should have total control of. Things like military. Have you ever seen Obama sending his military service chiefs nominees to the senate? A president must put is own loyal men in key military positions else he could be easily assasinated, even in America. Some of you need to read a few books on governance.

You want good governance but want your president to have disregard for the law. Nigeria is indeed in trouble with a mindset like yours.
BTW, why do some Nigerians side with their tormentors?

Anyway, read below....

The Joint Chief of Staffs, and other Staffs in the US are nominated by the President, and must be confirmed by the Senate.

"President Obama nominated Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and promoted two other senior military leaders Monday, completing an overhaul of his national security team in advance of the 2012 election.
........

All of the appointments are contingent upon Senate confirmation. If approved, Dempsey will take over Oct. 1 from Mullen, who is scheduled to retire four years after Bush named him to the job. Cartwright’s term as vice chairman will end in August"

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-05-30/world/35263719_1_joint-chiefs-president-obama-principal-military-adviser

reporter?:


You want good governance but want your president to have disregard for the law. Nigeria is indeed in trouble with a mindset like yours.
BTW, why do some Nigerians side with their tormentors?

Anyway, read below....

The Joint Chief of Staffs, and other Staffs in the US are nominated by the President, and must be confirmed by the Senate.

"President Obama nominated Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and promoted two other senior military leaders Monday, completing an overhaul of his national security team in advance of the 2012 election.
........

All of the appointments are contingent upon Senate confirmation. If approved, Dempsey will take over Oct. 1 from Mullen, who is scheduled to retire four years after Bush named him to the job. Cartwright’s term as vice chairman will end in August"

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-05-30/world/35263719_1_joint-chiefs-president-obama-principal-military-adviser

Thanks for the link,could add the ones I have cos am using my phone.
These guys really need to be lessoned n then some.

Enangson: Amadu Bello against the appointment of The Chief of Army Staff, Lt Gen. Azubuike Ihejirika; Chief of Air Staff, Air Vice Marshal Alex Badeh; and Chief of Naval Staff, Rear Admiral Dele Ezeoba, very funny. I think i understand him very well. What he meant is that they should be replaced with Core Northerners or Better still Boko Haram sympathizers. Its very glaring that Lt Gen. Azubuike Ihejirika is the Target.

donchris999: This judge aint gat shame. According to the constitution, the president appoints the security and military chiefs. Obasanjo did so, yar'adua did so, infact obasanjo retired all senior military men that had links with abacha in 1999 as the constitution stipulate and nobody coughed. Yar'adua brought in his own, now it is Gej and the whole nigeria wants to fall apart. All this aboki(bello) and yoruba(keyamo) people are enemies of progress. Just because boko haram is about to become history they are panicking . Rubbish! GEJ dont mind them, deal with boko haram ruthlessly, they can go and die. Senate my foot!

Keyamo is planning to become governor of Delta state. That means he is from South South
Let us give you a more logical reading of this matter since you have decided to read all sorts of meaning into the matter
BTW - it is not unusal to have cases languish in court. Otherwise EFCC's case against Patience Jonathan would have been decided before GEJ became president which enabled the case to be buried through environmental sanitation (scrubbing)

For 8 years Obj, a Southerner was appointing his service chiefs without senate approval. Nobody remembered the constitution.
Yaradua became president in 2007 and within 1 year, Festus Keyamo (a Southerner) suddenly discovered that the constitution requires that senate should confirm appointment of service chiefs.
Why should northerners NOT believe that the case was designed to constrain Yaradua?

as for Ihejirika, is he qualified or not? He is from SE. Deputy speaker and deputy senate president are both from SE. What is the fear?

la furia:
Hahaha, na wa o, did you go to school at all? The judge is saying the process of their appointment was wrong and besides the case was brought to the court since 2008. The judge ain't saying the service chefs should leave their office but the president should do the right thing. And besides I haven't seen a case where a presidential nominee has ever been rejected by the Senate. So just better chill.

Bode Agusto was rejected
There have been a few others that I don't remember right away

Let them divide this country cos there is no unity in diversity again nd ve never been.Appoint an hausa man an igbo man call it injustice vice verse likwise yoruba and other tribes youth unemploymnt on d high rate 12.3m ar unemplyd nd 25m ar under emplyd nd nobody speaks 4 them they only talk abt politics with our toothless bulldog calld d press aiding them i say let us divide nd evry tribe will wake up to d challenge.

thelastPope:

What is the right thing? a federal high court made a ruling. Who told you they are right? It will definitely continue up to the supreme court to get a clear interpretation of the law.

GEJ invoked a high court case (not judgement) to avoid answering a question at a media briefing
It was a high court that sent Bode George to jail

thelastPope:
On another note, I havent heard of a country that sends their service chiefs nominees to the legislators to approve.

How many countries have you heard that the executive sack judges? Did Jonathan not refuse to reinstate Salami
Law courts don't interprete what others do
But what is in the constitution
If the constitution is wrong, we should amend it. When the case was filed by a Southerner, a Northerner was president!

thelastPope:
There are things that a president should have total control of. Things like military. Have you ever seen Obama sending his military service chiefs nominees to the senate? A president must put is own loyal men in key military positions else he could be easily assasinated, even in America. Some of you need to read a few books on governance.

So the ministers are not loyal?
Or was Keyamo planning to assassinate Yaradua
afterall he (Keyamo) allowed Obasanjo to get away with the practice for 8 years
and woke up within 1 year of Yaradua reign!

WildChild00:

I think his defence mechanism will be that the president was not the first to hv been doing so...lol

Of course. The president should do what suits him. Is any individual assisting him in fighting boko haram? Is any body taking share of all the insult arising from security problems? Why must it be jona to carry out the change? I trust jona will certainly undermine any court judgement or whatever issue that will give him any further headche.

BetaThings:




Keyamo is planning to become governor of Delta state. That means he is from South South
Let us give you a more logical reading of this matter since you have decided to read all sorts of meaning into the matter
BTW - it is not unusal to have cases languish in court. Otherwise EFCC's case against Patience Jonathan would have been decided before GEJ became president which enabled the case to be buried through environmental sanitation (scrubbing)

For 8 years Obj, a Southerner was appointing his service chiefs without senate approval. Nobody remembered the constitution.
Yaradua became president in 2007 and within 1 year, Festus Keyamo (a Southerner) suddenly discovered that the constitution requires that senate should confirm appointment of service chiefs.
Why should northerners NOT believe that the case was designed to constrain Yaradua?

as for Ihejirika, is he qualified or not? He is from SE. Deputy speaker and deputy senate president are both from SE. What is the fear?

Are you saying the 109 Senators don't know the Constitution or uptil date are not aware that Service chief have been appointed without been screened by the House, except you will tell me that the senators don't have the power to ask the president to send his service chief for screening, only Adamu Bello has the constitution powers. Can't you see Amadu Bello judgement has a hiden agenda.

Iykopee: Dont we have executive rascality in d constitution? Bello seems to be a learner and inexperienced coz the system has been clutched by men of high talons... I just hope GEJ will listen to d court and do restrategise coz i knw d judiciary is only a puppet compared to d executive.

Its been years in the law school when my then lecturer taught us that some of what you need to assess is the possibility of enforcing a judgement before you institute an action in court. Keyamo understands what i am talking about. At most you will brand it executive recklessness or lawlessness but what will you do if the C-in-C chooses not to hear or comply with the courts decision? It is for the same reason that it is silly to sue an agbero with no permanent place of residence. (and i am not comparing both oo)

Meanwhile, the advise to GEJ is very simple. Appeal the judgement to the court of Appeal, and from there to the Supreme Court. By the time you are done, one or two things would have happened including either ofa military take over or the conclusion of his tenure

This didn't start with Jonathan. He just followed convention. Jonathan is the most democratic President of Nigeria in modern democracy. This will be a test for him. Its in this kind of tenure that such proceedings will be allowed to take place without interuption or internal boycotting. The civil airspace is free, every can make use of it. Keyamo knows this. Brilliant lawyer... Good president...Great Nigeria.

Core Northern elites at work

buJu-234:
Core Northern elites at work

Nope, it's the rule of law at work. As some posters have already said, previous presidents and the current one have been flouting the relevant laws guiding the appointment of the service chiefs. GEJ should henceforth forward the names of the service chief nominees to the Senate for approval.

when did dis become about individuals rather than ThE LAW>??

Enangson: Are you saying the 109 Senators don't know the Constitution or uptil date are not aware that Service chief have been appointed without been screened by the House, except you will tell me that the senators don't have the power to ask the president to send his service chief for screening, only Adamu Bello has the constitution powers. Can't you see Amadu Bello judgement has a hidden agenda.

The Senate has clearly abdicated it's duty with regard tot he appointment of the service chiefs. I guess their (senate) legal department (or whatever it's called) are simple incompetent.

reporter?:


You want good governance but want your president to have disregard for the law. Nigeria is indeed in trouble with a mindset like yours.
BTW, why do some Nigerians side with their tormentors?

Anyway, read below....

The Joint Chief of Staffs, and other Staffs in the US are nominated by the President, and must be confirmed by the Senate.

"President Obama nominated Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and promoted two other senior military leaders Monday, completing an overhaul of his national security team in advance of the 2012 election.
........

All of the appointments are contingent upon Senate confirmation. If approved, Dempsey will take over Oct. 1 from Mullen, who is scheduled to retire four years after Bush named him to the job. Cartwright’s term as vice chairman will end in August"

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-05-30/world/35263719_1_joint-chiefs-president-obama-principal-military-adviser

Good job, reporter. I'll also add that President Obama has to also forward the names of the US General designated to oversee American military forces in Iraq and Afghanistan; the heads of the military combatant units (CENTCOM, JSOC etc) to the US Senate for confirmation.

Wonda γ̥ Ι̥τ̲̅ took 5 yrs since 2008 for this case to be decided. Itz not like itz a criminal case where they have been searching for convincing evidences!!!! 5 yrs to interpret just sections of the constitution. I really need a convincing explanation for this judicial delay. I need a law expert to help pls. Because I really want to feel convinced about the state of our judiciary.

Enangson: Are you saying the 109 Senators don't know the Constitution or uptil date are not aware that Service chief have been appointed without been screened by the House, except you will tell me that the senators don't have the power to ask the president to send his service chief for screening, only Adamu Bello has the constitution powers. Can't you see Amadu Bello judgement has a hiden agenda.

The only hidden agenda is in your mind?
Who started the case? Keyamo from Delta state
Who was the president when the case was filed? - Yaradua from Katsina
If Yaradua were alive and this case was so decided what would you say is the hidden agenda

BTW - did Justice Bello ask Keyamo to file the case
Did he use foreign law to decide the case
Clinton was impeached for lying about a girl Do you think that we can do that in Nigeria?
Senators let sleeping dogs lie because of tribal/religious sensitivity.
EVERY president has committed impeachable offences

NONSENSE. THE KANGAROO COURT RULING IS NULL AND VOID.

The usual bigots are already insinuating that this is targeted at the COAS.....

Policewoman: NONSENSE. THE KANGAROO COURT RULING IS NULL AND VOID.

How is it a Kangaroo court? For the judgement to be "null and void", it has to be vacated by either the Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court.
Personally, I believe Justice gave the right ruling.

CFCfan:

The Senate has clearly abdicated it's duty with regard tot he appointment of the service chiefs. I guess their (senate) legal department (or whatever it's called) are simple incompetent.

why wont you call 109 distinguish people incompetent just because a certain Bello says what he feels. Where was he when other President did the same thing? He was still in Law School i guess.

Policewoman: NONSENSE. THE KANGAROO COURT RULING IS NULL AND VOID.

Here is a Nigerian Police officer ( that's if you are real) calling a Nigerian 'court of competent jurisdiction' a 'kangaroo court' just because a ruling does not suit your sectional interest....With people like you in the Nigerian police force it will remain a gross embodiment of colossal failure.

GEJ needs to hurriedly obtain Senate rubber stamp approval of his appointees (Chiefs of staff). A few million naira here and there would do the trick

Ilejirika's confirmation is however dead on arrival because he has become a liability to GEJ's administration due to the general feeling that he is Igbonizing the Army and destroying Muslims at every opportunity he has. Wrong or right, that is the perception up here in Abuja. Ilejirika's tenure is essentially over.

Naija!!! But this case was initiated since 2008; so why shouting Jonathan?

ndu_chucks: GEJ needs to hurriedly obtain Senate rubber stamp approval of his appointees (Chiefs of staff). A few million naira here and there would do the trick

Ilejirika's confirmation is however dead on arrival because he has become a liability to GEJ's administration due to the general feeling that he is Igbonizing the Army and destroying Muslims at every opportunity he has. Wrong or right, that is the perception up here in Abuja. Ilejirika's tenure is essentially over.

^^^Stupi/d post, reeking of unfounded heresay, bigotry and bile.......just saying!

WildChild00: Kudos to the judiciary for a work well-done, right from 1999 when Formal president Obasanjo came into power, dis has been in practised, but on the constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria, it is clearly spelt out that the president should norminate and send to the senate for approval, but most of the civilian president has been negecting this for so long, perhaps reasons best known to them.

even the so called judge dat made the pronouncement is nervous, let alone GEJ dat will implement it. At this era, political office holders treat the military with fear and respect, so as to avoid wat happened in the past @coup. By the way, do u think Ihejirika and co. can be removed frm office against their wish? if yes, who will force them out of power?

hardbody:

Its been years in the law school when my then lecturer taught us that some of what you need to assess is the possibility of enforcing a judgement before you institute an action in court. Keyamo understands what i am talking about. At most you will brand it executive recklessness or lawlessness but what will you do if the C-in-C chooses not to hear or comply with the courts decision? It is for the same reason that it is silly to sue an agbero with no permanent place of residence. (and i am not comparing both oo)

Meanwhile, the advise to GEJ is very simple. Appeal the judgement to the court of Appeal, and from there to the Supreme Court. By the time you are done, one or two things would have happened including either ofa military take over or the conclusion of his tenure

am with u my brother.

I guess the first thing Keyamo would have done before holding brief for Nigerian senate is sue for the equity on number of senators the states or so-called political zones provide to senate. It is unfortunate the so-called lawyer in Keyamo overlooked the tendency of holding the country to ransom due to lopsided advantage in number of Senators one political zone or region enjoys in the senate.

Until the political zones in Nigeria have equal number of states with equal number of Senators in the senate, the number game in confirmation of political appointments must take a back seat in Nigerian senate.

It is arrant nonsense to mention USA, which is a country, in political analysis with a jungle called Nigeria.