Who are we to judge God's disciples. Pastor Kumuyi is like the Moses in the Bible. I do not attend his church but the truth is that even when you are a sinner there is an inner man that tells you this one is of God. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that a man of God can not err (after all we are mortals). But the thing is who am I to condemn him. I love pastor Kumuyi and the deeperlife Bible church. One thing I would really want is for people not to grumble against him like some did against Moses and were consumed. I would also wish the church could forgive him and his son along with the bride and her father and not stopping there but to extend this forgiveness to all members that had been sanctioned on this act previously so that the forgiveness preached by Christ can truly be demonstrated througgh love. I know God has chosen this to teach His servant something and I believe he has learnt from it. And if he has and you are still posting all this article you are on your own.
Remember Posters you may feel he has erred but consider the many years of steadfastness and holiness he's put in before God and prevent God's wrath upon your head in a matter that does not concern you

swezenberg: Who are we to judge God's disciples. Pastor Kumuyi is like the Moses in the Bible.

Sorry , there is only one person who was like Moses and he was greater than Moses, this person is JESUS Christ.

Moses was a deliverer and so was JESUS, to compare these ICONs to Pastor Kumuiyi is almost bordering on arrogance and ignorance.

There are thousands of Pastors out there doing the work of GOD , some in dangerous places , many getting killed etc, God does not see one pastor or teacher as better than the rest, end of the day it is the Spirit of GOD that does the work of salvation not your pastor , it is the Spirit of GOD who teaches his children and helps them avoid error ( if only people will listen to him ) , it is the Spirit who perfects the saints , through the gifting of the body of Christ etc.

Please stop this pastor worship, you are almost turning Kumuyi into a POPE, this is dangerous.

Lastly, holiness is not legalism, holiness is a condition birthed and enhanced by the Holy Spirit through obedience, it has nothing to do with pleasing MEN or obeying the traditions of MEN.

i Do not think that there is something wrong in wat they did.they did not sin against God they only erred against the doctrines.of d church .for Christs sake we live in the 21st century.

kulyie: please lets stop all this bickering,it is a ploy of the devil to distract christians.lets focus on our salvation and living a life that pleases God,thats all

hmmmmmm.....may God help us

Thank u Mr. Adesina, bt this is far too long. The only new info i grabbed here is that the General Supritendent, Pastor W.F. KUMUYI & his wife, Esther,were right there when the couple walked in.Wasn't the wedding dress pre-inspected? Ok, couldn't Pastor Kumuyi call for a momentary suspension of the proceding & allow the bride time to go back to the vestry and amend her makeups,dress,etc? I respect and admire Pastor Kumuyi so much.In this case, he,his wife, d Jamaican overseer & d leadership of the church worldwide should cover their faces in a monumental shame. They have failed their teaming followers. Mr & Mrs John were allowed to behave in the way they did because they are the children of the powers that be in Deeper Life Bible Church.

Am checking out men!

frosbel:

Sorry , there is only one person who was like Moses and he was greater than Moses, this person is JESUS Christ.

Moses was a deliverer and so was JESUS, to compare these ICONs to Pastor Kumuiyi is almost bordering on arrogance and ignorance.

There are thousands of Pastors out there doing the work of GOD , some in dangerous places , many getting killed etc, God does not see one pastor or teacher as better than the rest, end of the day it is the Spirit of GOD that does the work of salvation not your pastor , it is the Spirit of GOD who teaches his children and helps them avoid error ( if any people will listen to him ) , it is the Spirit who perfects the saints , through the gifting of the body of Christ etc.

Please stop this pastor worship, you are almost turning Kumuyi into a POPE, this is dangerous.

Lastly, holiness is not legalism, holiness is a condition birthed and enhanced by the Holy Spirit through obedience, it has nothing to do with pleasing MEN or obeying the traditions of MEN.

I used to be a DeeperLifer (from 1997 - 2005) I must confess that when it comes to teaching of the Word of God Pastor Kumuyi is a guru and he has raised so many of them! However, I don't seems to understand why so many Deeperlifers were exceedingly poor then, truly the doctrine of the Church then was like a closed system whereby you are almost in bondage! I remember my days at the University as a Koinonia leader which automatically makes me a worker, there and then I saw a lot of discrepancies going on between brothers and sisters, hypocrisies and the likes! Of course, there were many good brothers and sisters, but most times if you are not within, you are almost going to conclude that they (Deeperlifers) were saints which brings me to the conclusion, 'Let God be God and Man be Man' no matter how highly placed a man is in the spiritual world, he is still a man - prone to error!

i criously pray dat dis pressure mounted on dis young couple by pharisees nd saducees will nt distroy dis marriage. Mayb evry memba of DL who supports dis harm done 2 dis young marriage will xhale in happiness wen dis marriage breaks. uptill now i'm still wondering WHAT WILL JESUS DO in dis situation

joiam:

Thanks for this long one. To tell you the truth, you have only ended up praising tradition above the word of God just like the Pharisees did. Rom. 10:1-4 says - 1 ¶ Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
From the above scripture, a lot of people especially DLfers that I know have been going about to establish their own righteousness. god's righteousness is just too easy. It must be hard.
Now talking about ancient landmark, what exactly is the meaning of this? If we are to really follow what you are insinuating in your post, them we should not ride in cars, not post things on internet, put on the kind of dresses worn in the ancient days, live in huts, not move near our dead bodies, not build beautiful churches, etc, etc. Please define the ancient landmark for proper discussion and our understanding. I know it is one of those terms used to disuade people from progressing and yet those who are preaching it are moving forward. They must keep the birds in the cage.
On Old time religion, please tell us if the old time religion involves the use of microphone, putting on fine suits, shoes, riding fine cars, using e-Bible, taking photographs,cover your hair 24hrs as a woman, no TV and so on. I think we need to stop deceiving ourselves and and ask the holy Sporit to interpret the scriptures to us. You are flying in planes and you are talking of old time religion. You go to the university instead of a seminary and you are talking of old time religion. I sense pride in action. Please note Luke 16:15 - Lu 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
Let us not boast in works anymore. God resists those who are proud of their relogious works.

You are offline my friend. Just 2 scriptural reference for you.
1. Genesis 3:7, 21
2. Matthew 5:17-20
Please, explain to this forum what God meant with His actions towards Adam and Eve. Also, tell us what Jesus, our perfect example also meant with this teaching. Thank you.

she did not wear jewelery

https://www.nairaland.com/1333595/mrs-kumuyi-wedding-outfit-vs/3

nwadaigbo: tell that to that bigot whose only stock in thread is to cause division in the body of christ. Who is he to label some churches dead and some living? When did God assign such tax to him. Let him go ahead and worship whichever pastor he likes and learn to mind his business and leave others to their faith. He is humanised hypocrist!

there's an egyptian singer that sings like this,I have forgotten his name.it goes like this though we are many,we are one body,we are one body in christ







All this energy we are channelling towards who is blaspheming,who is spreading heresies,let's channell it towards working out our own salvation with fear and trembling.god is not intrested in the mundane and hypocritical traditions of men,all that will pass away but against all phases and geberations,Gods word will forever remain the same.no man born of a woman is man enough to defend or fight for God.just do away with all this you can't wear this or that nonsense

elnath: I am just laughing. People worry themselves over nothing. I pity Christians. They will keep waiting and waiting for the last day, generations upon generations. They will never grasp the fact that this world will never end and there is no heaven and hell. That is why they keep listening to the teachings of these demi-gods who dictate their lives and limit their attaining a more purposeful and fulfilled life in this fleeting existence.

May you obtain the mercy of Jesus Christ right now in Jesus name. Please, whether you believe there's heaven or not, hell or not, God or not, but just remember this one fact. You pre-existed before you were born and, you will definitely post-exist after your death. Ponder over this and decide what will become of you after death. Thank you.

frosbel: ^^^^

Leave cults and follow JESUS.

ex-cultist. No offence.!

Smh pls just cut the crap,ok.you want to instigate another christian versus muslim e.war.all this barbaric attitudes sef .smh

Ayatullah:


The TRUTH is just that EVERY Christian Group/Denomination will one by one be befallen with one SCANDAL or the other just to vindicate the FACT that Christianity is a creation of Paul(a mere mortal)who NEVER met Jesus, and that is why ALLAH has made it clear in the Qur'an that: WHOSOEVER COME WITH ANY OTHER RELIGION APART FROM ISLAM IT WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED OF HIM, BUT WILL BE A LOSER IN THE HEREAFTER.

make una leave deeper life and komuyi problem.face ur own.BUSYBODIES

Atesunate15:
check out dis passage n read 1cor5:1-13

Your point please. ...

Where did God say your pastors rules and regulations is what will save you? A pastor is a pastor. They are human beings and also subject to the word of God. They have never seen God so how can they be stating categorically that thier rules will guarantee you a place in heaven.

Any Christian who base their religous existence on the word of one man is a fool. The Bible says trust in GOD not man.

frosbel: ^^^^

Leave cults and follow JESUS.

I must confess ur HEAD KNOWLEDGE of the scripture is great! And u have popularize yourself with it. Aim achieved! One must have to handle real currencies to differentiate it from counterfeit! Frosbel has the word in his CEREBRUM not in his HEART! It takes the Spirit's help to detect his erroneous and thwarted usage of the Scriptures! Saints beware!

Sirgen05:
I must confess ur HEAD KNOWLEDGE of the scripture is great! And u have popularize yourself with it. Aim achieved! One must have to handle real currencies to differentiate it from counterfeit! Frosbel has the word in his CEREBRUM not in his HEART! It takes Spirit help to detect his erroneous and thwarted usage of the Scriptures! Saints beware!

that is the same thing a deeperlife leader said to me recently , warning me to avoid a brother because he had too much knowledge of the scriptures.

It appears deeperlife hates their members having too much knowledge of the bible.

Oh , by the way , I am not here for fame or popularity.

thanks.

luluosas:
You pre-existed before you were born and,

Pls from where did u get this fact? Stop propagating this serious error pls!

kabba7: I think Nigerians are religionists but Godless people

....because they worship man and money NOT GOD.

idnoble135: some of these things done in churches are not in God's word.
They are mere traditions. Established by men and forced on their followers.
The couples did nothing wrong by the standard of God's word.
The lady must have tried to look good to herself even though if it was just that once. Wedding is a once in a life time event. We dont do it every 3 months.
All what they did is not wrong. Its ok by God's word but bad by church traditions.

Yes, they are mere traditions, just like street lights, traffic lights, road guards and all those gadgets put "by men" for our safety and security. We know what the results have been each time we violate them even as a joke.

Lol funny guy

frosbel:

that is the same thing a deeperlife leader said to me recently , warning me to avoid a brother because he had too much knowledge of the scriptures.

It appears deeperlife hates their members having too much knowledge of the bible.

Oh , by the way , I am not here for fame or popularity.

thanks.

InHim4Him:
Yes, they are mere traditions, just like street lights, traffic lights, road guards and all those gadgets put "by men" for our safety and security. We know what the results have been each time we violate them even as a joke.

and therein lies the error "put "by men"

i dnt believe they did anything wrong. woteva u do is based on ur personal conviction nd not ur dad's own. bt as wise people they would av conform nd act as they like after.

emmydee: Thank u Mr. Adesina, bt this is far too long. The only new info i grabbed here is that the General Supritendent, Pastor W.F. KUMUYI & his wife, Esther,were right there when the couple walked in.Wasn't the wedding dress pre-inspected? Ok, couldn't Pastor Kumuyi call for a momentary suspension of the proceding & allow the bride time to go back to the vestry and amend her makeups,dress,etc? I respect and admire Pastor Kumuyi so much.In this case, he,his wife, d Jamaican overseer & d leadership of the church worldwide should cover their faces in a monumental shame. They have failed their teaming followers. Mr & Mrs John were allowed to behave in the way they did because they are the children of the powers that be in Deeper Life Bible Church.

Am checking out men!

Here is the picture for people to see. The only truth here is that the bride and the groom doesn't believe in what Pastor Kumuyi is teaching.

frosbel:

Sorry , there is only one person who was like Moses and he was greater than Moses, this person is JESUS Christ.

Moses was a deliverer and so was JESUS, to compare these ICONs to Pastor Kumuiyi is almost bordering on arrogance and ignorance.

Take it easy Frosbel no one is saying is Jesus or exactly Moses. I used the word 'like' that to me and many others is a simile. My point it is for those that have not turned a single soul to Christ in a year to start criticizing a man that has brought many souls to Christ. Let's just assume he made his members so poor like most of you are castigating him and they still make heaven at the end so who gains. You

There are thousands of Pastors out there doing the work of GOD , some in dangerous places , many getting killed etc, God does not see one pastor or teacher as better than the rest, end of the day it is the Spirit of GOD that does the work of salvation not your pastor , it is the Spirit of GOD who teaches his children and helps them avoid error ( if only people will listen to him ) , it is the Spirit who perfects the saints , through the gifting of the body of Christ etc.

Please stop this pastor worship, you are almost turning Kumuyi into a POPE, this is dangerous.

Lastly, holiness is not legalism, holiness is a condition birthed and enhanced by the Holy Spirit through obedience, it has nothing to do with pleasing MEN or obeying the traditions of MEN.

No one is turning Pastor Kumuyi into a pope besides Pope and Pastor Kumuyi's teachings are completely parallel. You may be a church leader in your place but as for me you have never touched my life like he has and to say there are many Pastors who are killed for the gospel. Do you know how many attacks Pastor Kumuyi faces in a day. Do you know how many demons want him dead. Do you know how many pple on the internet wishing he makes a mistake so that they can nail him. My friend you need to dig more and see that it is easier to be a sheep than being a shepherd. I also stated that God might be using this occurence to pass a message across to the Deeper life Bible Church. Be careful with ur condmemnation because you are not God.

vickerz: i Do not think that there is something wrong in wat they did.they did not sin against God they only erred against the doctrines.of d church .for Christs sake we live in the 21st century.

I recently saw some amish people in america who were sentenced for attacking their own members who did not conform to century old traditions of their sect like keepin long beards ie never cut ur beards n they have a scriptural basis for it yknow. They point is, as God begins to unfold new light, truth. . .better move on ahead n damn the past because yu cannot stop d force of advancement. However, d best practice is for you to withdraw from the old wine skin to the new so yu won't be considered a rebel to constituted authourity!

swezenberg:
No one is turning Pastor Kumuyi into a pope besides Pope and Pastor Kumuyi's teachings are completely parallel. You may be a church leader in your place but as for me you have never touched my life like he has and to say there are many Pastors who are killed for the gospel. Do you know how many attacks Pastor Kumuyi faces in a day. Do you know how many demons want him dead. Do you know how many pple on the internet wishing he makes a mistake so that they can nail him. My friend you need to dig more and see that it is easier to be a sheep than being a shepherd. I also stated that God might be using this occurence to pass a message across to the Deeper life Bible Church. Be careful with ur condmemnation because you are not God.

Be a follower of JESUS , Men can lead you into error , especially when you place your entire trust in them, this is dangerous.

You are nobody to certify another mortal man born again or not born again because you don't have the key to heaven and you don't know when anyone will die so quit feeling too self righteous..am sure you have read in your bible that says trust in the lord with all your heart,and lean not upon your own understanding,in all your ways acknowledge him and he shall direct your path.I don't know why you have turned yourself to a judge that knows who is born again and who is not abeg stop giving christianity a bad name.as much as my family has been blessed by kumuyis ministeration and christian women mirror you deepers make me sick with your miserable arrogance and churchy attitude.abeg no make me sin joor.mshewwww

Tosman12:
i'll take it as u are not a born again xtian, if thats the case for them they should have atended christ embassy wen they mature of age to marry and such wouldn't have counted....... The sin is not only the dressing and poporries added in the wedding but outright disobidient to the church doctrine and to there father dat has told them on the alter and in the church, dey did not only brought sadness to the man's heart but as well brought shame to their parent ministry, obvious they have not bin living by the example overthere are they to tell me dat she wears trouser and john to uses ring..... Disobidient to parent alone is a sin and in this case deciet is involve or are they telling me dey are d first to wed in that part of the ministry? Is dat how the comitee allow it or they gave dem a difrent thing and they use a difrent thing?
Talk of apology dats not apology dats routin check.

Sirgen05:
Pls from where did u get this fact? Stop propagating this serious error pls!

Don't just border yourself because, I am speaking pure biblical language Jeremiah 1:5, Luke 23:43. Thank you.

Pls don't let us try to defend God, he is a gentle patient God, anyone devising ways that can suit them is left to them, no one will escape judgment nd d bible which is the word of God cries it everyday, so that is enough to help.. God is so perfect that's y he said #My ppl perish cos df lack of knowledge, he also said #Seek wisdom nd in all thy gettings get understanding, Jesus also told us dt he would send us a guardian whch is d Holy Spirit, so if any1 is analysing d word of God whch is God himself wth self motives its a battle btw him nd God... God grant us all unending Grace...Amen

The summary here is God vs MAN, God's rule vs Man's rule, which one should we obey ?

emmydee: Thank u Mr. Adesina, bt this is far too long. The only new info i grabbed here is that the General Supritendent, Pastor W.F. KUMUYI & his wife, Esther,were right there when the couple walked in.Wasn't the wedding dress pre-inspected? Ok, couldn't Pastor Kumuyi call for a momentary suspension of the proceding & allow the bride time to go back to the vestry and amend her makeups,dress,etc? I respect and admire Pastor Kumuyi so much.In this case, he,his wife, d Jamaican overseer & d leadership of the church worldwide should cover their faces in a monumental shame. They have failed their teaming followers. Mr & Mrs John were allowed to behave in the way they did because they are the children of the powers that be in Deeper Life Bible Church.

Am checking out men!

u have spoken well