Sincere 9gerian: Some people have gone MAD all the name of politics. I wonder why sane people would jubilate over negative news concerning their own country.

I've not read the full TI report but my understanding of it is that it was a survey and such surveys are very SUBJECTIVE. For me, the report is a wake up call for all of us to do more against corruption. Dont give or take bribe. If there's no giver, there'll be no receiver.

Unfortunately for us in Nigeria, rather than take the positive from the report, we play politics with it. The opposition parties and their online vultures see it as another tool for fighting GEJ. In the end, the purpose of the TI survey is defeated in our country.

Meanwhile, Reno Omokri did a very poor and shoddy job in the so called rejoinder. Even the link provided does not support what he wrote. The statement was just cut and joined, and laced with falsehood. I doubt if the rejoinder came from him. If indeed the statement emanated from him, that will be very sad and unfortunate. President Jonathan would never sanction such shameful lies.

Being frank and realistic with ourselves doesn't mean we are celebrating negative reports.
What should we have done that will please you? Castigate those who compiled the list? Debunk the list? Or blame the opposition for it?
The self deceit we've been swimming in for years is what brought us to this present condition of banana republic we are today.

Gbawe:

Opuro. Reno Omokri number 2 has landed. Nothing for you to spin here. Move along shameless sycophant. Nigerians themselves have spoken about worsening corruption but nauseating sycophants like you keep insisting otherwise, as the liar Reno does, to deceive the public about the antics of your messiah that shows he is an enabler of corruption to the extent the USA labelled the GEJ government as "not serious at fighting corruption". You are not only an Insincere9gerian but you are an enemy of Nigeria.

Abuses, insults and curses will not, cannot and can never facilitate your dream of turning Nigeria to Tinubu's empire.

Omokri a dullard and mumu. So the fool used an April publication to state TI has rebutted a recent report. These people are so shameless and daft.

The type of ediots we see in this Nigeria daily ehn.

TI does a survey and results show Nigeria ranked 8, so what is there to argue again. Quite different from the CPI but also has its merits and tells us a lot about corruption worldwide.

It is unthinkable that a jobless butt licker like Omokri will attempt to discredit the report.

Sincere 9gerian:
Abuses, insults and curses will not, cannot and can never facilitate your dream of turning Nigeria to Tinubu's empire.

But you too have your own share if blame that is why they can insult you. I hardly comment on NL but this story caught my eye and when you read it you will notice that the fellow took pains to show that a. There are people in Nigeria that are fraudulently saying they are TI and that TI has refuted them. That is not a lie. b. Then he said that TI never listed Nigeria as 8th most corrupt nation. That is not a lie. By the time you start to insult yourself and your friends don't be surprised when others join you I. Insulting yourself.

$£yi:


Being frank and realistic with ourselves doesn't mean we are celebrating negative reports.
What should we have done that will please you? Castigate those who compiled the list? Debunk the list? Or blame the opposition for it?
The self deceit we've been swimming in for years is what brought us to this present condition of banana republic we are today.

What I see on this thread is not being "frank and realistic". I see people jubilating over the report for selfish political reasons. If we'r being "frank and realistic", then we should be talking to ourselves on the need for everyone to shun bribery and corruption. The survey was mostly about bribery. But how many Nigerians have because of the TI report resolved not to give bribes? That is the purpose of the report but in Nigeria nobody is talking about the true essence of the report. Its all about using it to fight the president for selfish political gains

fbiswagger:

Insult me all you want, I will neither get angry or insult you back. All I have been asking for is that you answer the issues raised in the rebuttal which to refresh your memory are as follows;


i. The Global Barometer IS NOT a ranking done by Transparency International. It is a survey of how CITIZENS feel about their country and in any case it NEVER rated Nigeria the 8th most corrupt nation in the world.

ii. The ONLY ranking that Transparency International does is the annual Corruption Perception Index and TI has not released one for this year thus any headline that says NIGERIA LISTED AS 8th MOST CORRUPT NATION is FALSE.

If these are lies then produce evidence to convince us that the Omokri dude has lied. No matter how much you insult the truth it will not become a lie so save your insults for those on whom they are effective and produce evidence to back your claims.

True that the Global Corruption Barometer does not feature country rankings, and its different from the CPI but a public opinion survey carried out by Transparency International. Reno ought to have stayed on educating the misinformed on the difference between the global corruption barometer and the CPI instead of mischievously digging up a disclaimer published in April that has nothing to do with the story. Reno is a fraud

Sincere 9gerian:
What I see on this thread is not being "frank and realistic". I see people jubilating over the report for selfish political reasons. If were being "frank and realistic", then we should all be talking to ourselves on the need for everyone to shun bribery and corruption. The survey was mostly about bribery. But how many Nigerians have because of that report resolved not to give bribes? That is the purpose of the report but Nigeria nobody is talking about the true essence of the report. Its all about using it to fight the president for selfish political gains

Close your mouth, shun bribery and corruption bla bla bla, why don't you take your rotten gospel to Jonathan and his greedy rhino looking wife.

Why don't you take your rotten gospel to the fraudulent Omokri who unintelligently and fraudulently tried to discredit the credibility of the survey.

The survey tells us a lot about what we need to know about corruption in Nigeria. What responsible leaders do is to use the results of the survey as a basis for the war against corruption. That is leadership behaviour, it is called change but I don't expect your mediocre mind to understand that. It is a critical part of policy, strategy and governance. Leaders drive change.

However, what we have is a criminal and fraudulent leadership that further provides evidence to support the survey by fraudulently trying to distort the results of the beautiful survey.

You should be ashamed of such criminals instead of the rubbish you have come here to type.

Sincere 9gerian:
What I see on this thread is not being "frank and realistic". I see people jubilating over the report for selfish political reasons. If were being "frank and realistic", then we should all be talking to ourselves on the need for everyone to shun bribery and corruption. The survey was mostly about bribery. But how many Nigerians have because of that report resolved not to give bribes? That is the purpose of the report but Nigeria nobody is talking about the true essence of the report. Its all about using it to fight the president for selfish political gains

You are such a nauseating sycophant. What "political gains" is the USA seeking when the Country labelled the GEJ government to be one "not serious about fighting corruption"? You are simply an enemy of Nigeria. When you are not lying that "most corruption happen in Lagos and Abuja" you are contradicting yourself asking Nigerians in all states to eschew the corruption the entire world now openly admit your messiah is tolerating/abetting. A bit like asking Nigerians to sacrificially starve themselves while GEJ remains eating money literally. Do you not get sick of defending this guy who, by his own actions/inactions, is now discredited, disliked and isolated globally?


http://www.punchng.com/news/corruption-massive-under-jonathan-us/

Corruption massive under Jonathan – US

APRIL 21, 2013 BY OLALEKAN ADETAYO, ALLWELL OKPI AND TEMITAYO FAMUTIMI


The United States government on Friday indicted the President Goodluck Jonathan led Federal Government of massive and widespread corruption.

According to the United States Department of State, government officials and agencies frequently engage in corrupt practices with impunity.

This was contained in the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2012, which was released on Friday evening.

In the report, the judiciary and security agencies, especially the police, were said be lacking in transparency.

It read in part,“The law provides criminal penalties for official corruption; however, the government did not implement the law effectively, and officials frequently engaged in corrupt practices with impunity. Massive, widespread, and pervasive corruption affected all levels of government and the security forces. The constitution provides immunity from civil and criminal prosecution for the president, vice president, governors, and deputy governors while in office.

“There was a widespread perception judges were easily bribed and litigants could not rely on the courts to render impartial judgments. Citizens encountered long delays and alleged requests from judicial officials for bribes to expedite cases or obtain favourable rulings.

“Police corruption remained rampant. Reports of checkpoint bribery and shooting incidents decreased in February after newly appointed Inspector General of Police Mohammed Abubakar announced the closure of all police checkpoints across the country; however, illegal checkpoints remained common in some regions. Police routinely stopped drivers who did not commit traffic infractions, refusing to allow them to continue until they paid bribes,” it stated.

Highlighting events that occurred in the country in last year that portrayed lack of transparency and probity, the US government listed the escape of the suspected mastermind of the Boko Haram 2011 Christmas Day bombing from custody, noting how the police commissioner, who aided the suspect went unpunished; the conviction of former Delta State governor James Ibori in the Southwark Crown Court in London of charges of money laundering and other financial crimes totaling N12.4bn, after he was acquitted by a Nigerian court; and the N1.067trn fuel subsidy fund lost to “endemic corruption and entrenched inefficiency” as examples.

It stated that, “In July, the government released a list of those who had benefited illegally from the subsidy program, which included relatives and colleagues of key government officials. In late July, the EFCC began arraigning suspects, first with a group of 20 indictments, including six oil companies and 11 individuals. By year’s end, the EFCC initiated prosecutions of approximately 50 cases related to the subsidy scam. The majority of these cases involved companies and individuals who had fraudulently received subsidy revenue. Investigations and trials had not produced any convictions by year’s end.”

The US document also faulted the refusal of public officials to declare their assets as stipulated by law.

It stated that in June 2012, the Socio-Economic Rights and Accountability Project and other groups demanded that President Jonathan should disclose his assets from 2007 to 2012 but that Jonathan refused.

The report also rated the anticorruption efforts of the Independent Corrupt Practises and other related offences Commission and the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission as “largely ineffectual,” adding that despite ICPC’s wide mandate, it had only achieved 60 convictions since its inauguration in 2000.

It also listed a number of cases being handled by the EFCC that have remained inconclusive, including the case of alleged misappropriation of one N1bn against former Speaker of the House of Representatives, Dimeji Bankole, and N40bn against his deputy Usman Nafada; and the cases against four former governors Gbenga Daniel, Adebayo Alao-Akala, Aliyu Akwe Doma, and Muhammed Danjuma Goje, for allegedly misappropriating N58bn, N25bn, N18bn, and N12.8bn, respectively.

Apart from corruption, the US accused the Federal Government of numerous unlawful killings.

It decried frequent abduction of civilians and lack of press freedom, highlighting cases, where journalists were harassed and beaten up.

It also noted widespread discrimination against persons with disability.

The Presidency, however, described the report as an incorrect assessment of the situation in the country.

Special Adviser to the President on Media and Publicity, Dr. Reuben Abati, warned Nigerians to be wary of such assessments which he described as “parachute researches.”

He said contrary to the picture the report painted, the present administration has remained the most transparent government since the return of democracy to Nigeria.

He said it was in the spirit of transparency that the present administration exposed the scam in the downstream sector of the petroleum industry and passed the Freedom of Information Bill.

He said, “In 2012 that the report is talking about, the EFCC alone got more than 200 convictions. This is in public domain.

“This government did an audit to eliminate waste and leakages in the system.

“On the checkpoints they talked about, it is important that they identify the difference between checkpoints and stop-and-search operation which is required especially in tackling security challenges.

“Nigerians should be wary of these external assessors that jump into conclusion. What are the parameters used in arriving at their conclusion? How scientific are the analysis?

“They assess Nigeria based on the instinct of a parachuter who jumps put of an aircraft without a fair knowledge of where he is landing.”

ballabriggs:

Close your mouth, shun bribery and corruption bla bla bla, why don't you take your rotten gospel to Jonathan and his greedy rhino looking wife.

Why don't you take your rotten gospel to the fraudulent Omokri who unintelligently and fraudulently tried to discredit the credibility of the survey.

The survey tells us a lot about what we need to know about corruption in Nigeria. What responsible leaders do is to use the results of the survey as a basis for the war against corruption. That is leadership behaviour, it is called change but I don't expect your mediocre mind to understand that. It is a critical part of policy, strategy and governance. Leaders drive change.

However, what we have is a criminal and fraudulent leadership that further provides evidence to support the survey by fraudulently trying to distort the results of the beautiful survey.

You should be ashamed of such criminals instead of the rubbish you have come here to type.

Ok, you've said what you want govt to do with the report. But what about you as an individual? What will you do with the report? How does the report affect you going forward?

Gbawe:

You are such a nauseating sycophant. What "political gains" is the USA seeking when the Country labelled the GEJ government to be one "not serious about fighting corruption"? You are simply an enemy of Nigeria. When you are not lying that "most corruption happen in Lagos and Abuja" you are contradicting yourself asking Nigerians in all states to eschew the corruption the entire world now openly admit your messiah is tolerating/abetting. A bit like asking Nigerians to sacrificially starve themselves while GEJ remains eating money literally. Do you not get sick of defending this guy who, by his own actions/inactions, is now discredited, disliked and isolated globally?


http://www.punchng.com/news/corruption-massive-under-jonathan-us/

You need serious help. Who do you think has time to read all of that thrash?

Sincere 9gerian:
Ok, you've said what you want govt to do with the report. But what about you as an individual? What will you do with the report? How does the report affect you going forward?

What I am doing and have always done is to tell leaders to take responsibility and drive change using this survey and many more others done by hardworking men and not butt lickers like Omokri. Leaders should act responsibly, set the appropriate tone and behaviour at the top and cascade such behaviours down through the nation.

However, what we see is a fraudulent and deceitful leadership paying jobless men like you to come here to attempt to spin such beautiful surveys.

Sincere 9gerian:
What I see on this thread is not being "frank and realistic". I see people jubilating over the report for selfish political reasons. If we'r being "frank and realistic", then we should be talking to ourselves on the need for everyone to shun bribery and corruption. The survey was mostly about bribery. But how many Nigerians have because of the TI report resolved not to give bribes? That is the purpose of the report but in Nigeria nobody is talking about the true essence of the report. Its all about using it to fight the president for selfish political gains

No one is jubilating here. In fact, I am dismayed over Reno's dubious consolation that Nigeria is winning the war against corruption when its just a ruse. Most people who commented and expressed their anger on the previous post did so because they believed that bribery and corruption is still pervasive and not because of the report. It is folks like you who have a culture of intolerance against dissent and an exaggerated sense of gratitude towards government.

Sincere 9gerian:
You need serious help. Who do you think has time to read all of that thrash?

I think the words that describes you better than others are "amoral and shameless". You say everyone criticising GEJ is seeking "political gain". Now you are shown that criticism of your messiah goes beyond our border, you label such as "thrash". Of course international indictment against your corrupt messiah can only be "thrash" to you. Sadly for you, Jonathan is now universally perceived as a 'throwback' joke by his contemporaries. They now queue up, against established diplomatic cordiality, to lambast your messiah publicly.

His reputation as a corrupt misfit, leading the biggest black nation on earth is real and not "thrash" as a loser and failure like you would like to believe. It is you, a common fraudster, and all the other charlatans who attempt laundering GEJ's pathetic image online who need "serious help".

Gbawe, I don't understand why you are painting this thread red with your insultive comments!!
I did not see any falsehood in what he said!! He said TI have not released their annual CPI.
He did not say they have not released their Global Barometer report!!

So tomorrow, if TI release's the CPI, what will be the headline?

TI rates Nigeria as the __th most corrupt country!! This headline has already been used!!

homesteady: Gbawe, I don't understand why you are painting this thread red with your insultive comments!!
I did not see any falsehood in what he said!! He said TI have not released their annual CPI.
He did not say they have not released their Global Barometer report!!

So tomorrow, if they release the CPI, what will be the headline?

TI rates Nigeria as the __th most corrupt country!! This headline have already been used!!

Another mumu. I am the one being insultive and not your ALUU pals who would have taken this thread in one direction only if fact had not disturbed the e-lynching they were priming themselves for. I am ashamed to call m0r0ns like you fellow Nigerians with how you are clannish to the point of idiocy and illiteracy.

It is obvious no decent and sensible person, after all that has been exposed, would even try to sell Omokri's attempt at 419 to a 5 year old and I can only conclude you are a fraudster for even trying.

Gbawe:

Another mumu. I am the one being insultive and not your ALUU pals who would have taken this thread in one direction only if fact had not disturbed the e-lynching they were priming themselves for. I am ashamed to call m0r0ns like you fellow Nigerians with how you are clannish to the point of idiocy and illiteracy.

It is obvious no decent and sensible person, after all that has been exposed, would even try to sell Omokri's attempt at 419 to a 5 year old and I can only conclude you are a fraudster for even trying.

You must be a very stupid fellow!! From your response, you are the slowpoke here!! You couldn't even say something related to my post!!
I asked - what will be the headline if TI releases the CPI tomorrow!
and with your leprosy fingers you started insulting me!

Tomorrow,you will be among the people saying Dame jonathan is an illiterate, meanwhile you are also an illiterate!!
If you had gone to a university, they would have taught you logic(GST112) in 100L.
Well, let me lecture you a little bit! -
TI has two different rating category - one is done by people who stay in the country, and the other is done by TI themselves!! So in other words, TI is not responsible for the 1st one, they are responsible for the 2nd one!
Reno said TI hasn't released its own rating(CPI), And this statement is logically correct. Or have they released it?? If yes, then please show me the link!
If you want more lecture on Logic, I'll always be around to lecture you!

homesteady:

You must be a very stupid fellow!! From your response, you are the slowpoke here!! You couldn't even say something related to my post!!
I asked - what will be the headline if TI releases the CPI tomorrow!
and with your leprosy fingers you started insulting me!

Tomorrow,you will be among the people saying Dame jonathan is an illiterate, meanwhile you are also an illiterate!!
If you had gone to a university, they would have taught you logic(GST112) in 100L.
Well, let me lecture you a little bit! -
TI has two different rating category - one is done by people who stay in the country, and the other is done by TI themselves!! So in other words, TI is not responsible for the 1st one, they are responsible for the 2nd one!
Reno said TI hasn't released its own rating(CPI), And this statement is logically correct. Or have they released it?? If yes, then please show me the link!
If you want more lecture on Logic, I'll always be around to lecture you!

At last, you have succeeded in taking 'Nairaland Most Celebrated Hypocrite' to the cleaners! All he knows best is spamming every thread here with his lengthy and wordy rhetorics and insulting those who don't share his biased opinions good job my brother

homesteady:

You must be a very stupid fellow!! From your response, you are the slowpoke here!! You couldn't even say something related to my post!!
I asked - what will be the headline if TI releases the CPI tomorrow!
and with your leprosy fingers you started insulting me!

Tomorrow,you will be among the people saying Dame jonathan is an illiterate, meanwhile you are also an illiterate!!
If you had gone to a university, they would have taught you logic(GST112) in 100L.
Well, let me lecture you a little bit! -
TI has two different rating category - one is done by people who stay in the country, and the other is done by TI themselves!! So in other words, TI is not responsible for the 1st one, they are responsible for the 2nd one!
Reno said TI hasn't released its own rating(CPI), And this statement is logically correct. Or have they released it?? If yes, then please show me the link!
If you want more lecture on Logic, I'll always be around to lecture you!

You and the others clannish mumus holding brief for Omokri are the only illiterates here because he has been exposed. You can stay here attempting pathetic and rudimentary spin but the disgraceful deception of Omokri has been laid bare and people like you only validate why many worldwide think Nigerians are fraudsters with how you think you can spin crooked conduct. You too are 'dense' to note that your two-bit argument makes no sense whatsoever.

You may see your clannish actions as "backing your corner" but your mumu antics only reveal that you're not very bright, lack morals and are a crook. Anyone supporting an act of fraud and saying it is not such can only be a fraudster. No surprise anyway because you are all losers. Why will you not be into fraud?

Gbawe:

You and the others clannish mumus holding brief for Omokri are the only illiterates here because he has been exposed. You can stay here attempting pathetic and rudimentary spin but the disgraceful deception of Omokri has been laid bare and people like you only validate why many worldwide think Nigerians are fraudsters with how you think you can spin crooked conduct. You too are 'dense' to note that your two-bit argument makes no sense whatsoever.

You may see your clannish actions as "backing your corner" but your mumu antics only reveal that you're not very bright, lack morals and are a crook. Anyone supporting an act of fraud and saying it is not such can only be a fraudster. No surprise anyway because you are all losers. Why will you not be into fraud?

You are such a funny FOOL!! Instead of you to concede defeat,you are still blabbing!!
Despite taking my time to lecture you a little bit of Logic in GST112, your dumb brain couldn't comprehend it!! You are supposed to be Garri the 1st!!
BTW, don't quote me again,if you won't say anything meaningful!!

There's corruption in Nigeria, there's no doubt about that but nigerians, must be cautious of these so called international organizations which does nothing but try to undermined our progress. How transparent is transparency international? These organizations are merely western political tools that targets only Africans and western enemies.

homesteady:

You are such a funny FOOL!! Instead of you to concede defeat,you are still blabbing!!
Despite taking my time to lecture you a little bit of Logic in GST112, your dumb brain couldn't comprehend it!! You are supposed to be Garri the 1st!!
BTW, don't quote me again,if you won't say anything meaningful!!

Lunatic. "Concede defeat" when I have shown the blatant attempt at fraud by one of the 'handlers' of the President? You must think I read your incoherent psycho-babble you deem "lecture". You are talking off-topic entirely like a deranged lunatic, as usual, so you are only fit to be regarded as the freak show you are.

Gidaheights: There's corruption in Nigeria, there's no doubt about that but nigerians, must be cautious of these so called international organizations which does nothing but try to undermined our progress. How transparent is transparency international? These organizations are merely western political tools that targets only Africans and western enemies.

With all due respect, I think you have mixed issues up here. The global corruption barometer, as applies to Nigeria, is the collation of the opinion of Nigerians themselves in relation to corruption in their own Country. What is more pertinent than the opinion of stakeholders themselves?

At least we can hint at an agenda if it is TI or other external organisations indicting us of corruption based on criteria that are hidden, suspect or perhaps redolent of a political agenda. If anything, it is the main Corruption perception index from TI ,that the fraudulent 'handler' of Mr.President alludes to, that may leave some room for the argument of 'compromised judgement' you make because of all the criterias and inputs used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

The 2012 CPI draws on 13 different surveys and assessments from 12 different institutions.[5] The institutions are the African Development Bank, the Bertelsmann Foundation, the Economist Intelligence Unit, Freedom House, Global Insight, International Institute for Management Development, Political and Economic Risk Consultancy, Political Risk Services, the World Economic Forum, the World Bank and the World Justice Project.[6]
Countries must be assessed by at least three sources to appear in the CPI.[7] The 13 surveys/assessments are either business people opinion surveys or performance assessments from a group of analysts

Gbawe:

Lunatic. "Concede defeat" when I have shown the blatant attempt at fraud by one of the 'handlers' of the President? You must think I read your incoherent psycho-babble you deem "lecture". You are talking off-topic entirely like a deranged lunatic, as usual, so you are only fit to be regarded as the freak show you are.

Gbawe is a secondary school drop-out!! Dazzal!!

homesteady:

Gbawe is a secondary school drop-out!! Dazzal!!

Really? oh noooooo

Gbawe my very good friend, I need you in this thread oh!! www.nairaland.com/1357500/why-did-prof-wole-soyinka

tomakint:
Really? oh noooooo

Yea!! He does not understand Logic!