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Isn't It True That Islam Was Spread By The Sword? by Kingharzyz(m): 1:16pm On Jul 17, 2013
No. This is not true. However, this is a common misconception in the minds of many people. The
Qur'an declares:
There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error (Qur'an
2:256).
This Qur'anic verse shows that God has made truth and falsehood distinct from each other and
people are therefore free to choose one or the other. No one can be forced to believe in a religion
since belief is something very personal. One who follows the Qur'an will not try to force another
person to believe.
Even the prophet Muhammad, on whom be peace, could not force another person to become a
Muslim. God revealed to him the following words:
And if your Lord willed, all who are in the earth would have believed together. Would you then
compel people until they become believers? It is not for any soul to believe except by the
permission of Allah (Qur'an 10:99-100).
This instruction from God makes it clear that anyone is mistaken who thinks that he or she can
compel others to believe. If God wanted, He could make everyone believers, but rather has given
them free choice. Even so, no one can believe upon being forced. It is the grace of God on a
person that will result in belief. Is there a teaching more beautiful than this? How could any true
follower of the Qur'an turn around and force his faith on others? On the contrary, the Qur'an
instructs its followers on how to call people to true faith as follows:
Call unto the way of your Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in the
better way (Qur'an 16:125).
Where does the Qur'an tell anyone to call people at the point of a sword? It does not. God
instructed his messenger, on whom be peace, as follows:
Say: This is my Way: I invite unto Allah with sure knowledge, I and whosoever follows me
(Qur'an 12:108).
Here again, the call is to be made with sure knowledge, with clear evidence. Putting these
instructions together, a Muslim understands that he or she must present Islam with clear
evidence (i.e. sure knowledge) and use wisdom and fair exhortation to reason with people to
accept the evidence for faith. Where is there any mention of sword in all of this?
The Junior Encyclopedia of Canada says:
Islam is the fastest-growing religion worldwide (The Junior Encyclopedia of Canada, Hurtig
Publishers, Canada, 1990, Vol.2. p.396).
What explains this phenomenon? Who is forcing anyone today to become Muslims? Muslims are
not even engaged in active preaching in any noticeable degree. People are voluntarily coming into
Islam because they find that Islam makes sense.
Huston Smith discusses in his book entitled The World's Religions, on page 256, how the prophet
Muhammad, on whom be peace, granted freedom of religion to the Jews and Christians under
Muslim rule. The prophet had a document drawn up in which he stipulated that Jews and
Christians shall be "protected from all insults and vexations; they shall have an equal right with
our own people to our assistance and good offices," and furthermore, that they shall "practice
their religion as freely as the Muslims" (Quoted in The World's Religions by Huston Smith, Harper
Collins, 1991, p.256). Smith points out that Muslims regard that document as "the first charter of
freedom of conscience in human history and the authoritative model for those of every
subsequent Muslim state" (p.256).
So, was Islam spread by the sword? The following short answer comes from Ira Zepp Jr., a non-
Muslim, in his book entitled A Muslim Primer:
It is unfortunate that Islam has been stereotyped as the 'religion of the sword' or that Islam was
'spread by the sword.' The historical reality is that the expansion of Islam was usually by
persuasion and not by military power. In any case, Islam cannot be forced on anyone; if
profession of the shahadah [i.e. the declaration of Islam] is forced on someone, it is not true
Islam (A Muslim Primer by Ira Zepp, Jr., 1992, Wakefield Editions, US, p.134).
Re: Isn't It True That Islam Was Spread By The Sword? by Kingharzyz(m): 1:22pm On Jul 17, 2013
May ALLAH guide us right...Ameen
Re: Isn't It True That Islam Was Spread By The Sword? by F00028: 2:16pm On Jul 17, 2013
“History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated."
Re: Isn't It True That Islam Was Spread By The Sword? by cleanvessel(m): 5:04pm On Jul 17, 2013
King harzyz: No. This is not true. However, this is a common misconception in the minds of many people. The
Qur'an declares:
There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error (Qur'an
2:256).
This Qur'anic verse shows that God has made truth and falsehood distinct from each other and
people are therefore free to choose one or the other. No one can be forced to believe in a religion
since belief is something very personal. One who follows the Qur'an will not try to force another
person to believe.
Even the prophet Muhammad, on whom be peace, could not force another person to become a
Muslim. God revealed to him the following words:
And if your Lord willed, all who are in the earth would have believed together. Would you then
compel people until they become believers? It is not for any soul to believe except by the
permission of Allah (Qur'an 10:99-100).
This instruction from God makes it clear that anyone is mistaken who thinks that he or she can
compel others to believe. If God wanted, He could make everyone believers, but rather has given
them free choice. Even so, no one can believe upon being forced. It is the grace of God on a
person that will result in belief. Is there a teaching more beautiful than this? How could any true
follower of the Qur'an turn around and force his faith on others? On the contrary, the Qur'an
instructs its followers on how to call people to true faith as follows:
Call unto the way of your Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in the
better way (Qur'an 16:125).
Where does the Qur'an tell anyone to call people at the point of a sword? It does not. God
instructed his messenger, on whom be peace, as follows:
Say: This is my Way: I invite unto Allah with sure knowledge, I and whosoever follows me
(Qur'an 12:108).
Here again, the call is to be made with sure knowledge, with clear evidence. Putting these
instructions together, a Muslim understands that he or she must present Islam with clear
evidence (i.e. sure knowledge) and use wisdom and fair exhortation to reason with people to
accept the evidence for faith. Where is there any mention of sword in all of this?
The Junior Encyclopedia of Canada says:
Islam is the fastest-growing religion worldwide (The Junior Encyclopedia of Canada, Hurtig
Publishers, Canada, 1990, Vol.2. p.396).
What explains this phenomenon? Who is forcing anyone today to become Muslims? Muslims are
not even engaged in active preaching in any noticeable degree. People are voluntarily coming into
Islam because they find that Islam makes sense.
Huston Smith discusses in his book entitled The World's Religions, on page 256, how the prophet
Muhammad, on whom be peace, granted freedom of religion to the Jews and Christians under
Muslim rule. The prophet had a document drawn up in which he stipulated that Jews and
Christians shall be "protected from all insults and vexations; they shall have an equal right with
our own people to our assistance and good offices," and furthermore, that they shall "practice
their religion as freely as the Muslims" (Quoted in The World's Religions by Huston Smith, Harper
Collins, 1991, p.256). Smith points out that Muslims regard that document as "the first charter of
freedom of conscience in human history and the authoritative model for those of every
subsequent Muslim state" (p.256).
So, was Islam spread by the sword? The following short answer comes from Ira Zepp Jr., a non-
Muslim, in his book entitled A Muslim Primer:
It is unfortunate that Islam has been stereotyped as the 'religion of the sword' or that Islam was
'spread by the sword.' The historical reality is that the expansion of Islam was usually by
persuasion and not by military power. In any case, Islam cannot be forced on anyone; if
profession of the shahadah [i.e. the declaration of Islam] is forced on someone, it is not true
Islam (A Muslim Primer by Ira Zepp, Jr., 1992, Wakefield Editions, US, p.134).

How do you justify your claim in line with these, there are hundreds of them but let me stop at these:

[Quran 9:5] Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[Quran 9:73] O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end.

[Quran 9:123] O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

Note: The above verses are not in self-defence.
Re: Isn't It True That Islam Was Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 5:05pm On Jul 17, 2013
Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them(non muslims), and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.



Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."



Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you grin , and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.



Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."



Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').



Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward (77 virgins)." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.



Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"



Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."



Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).



Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?



Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"



Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" [/b]No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.



Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."



Quran (8:39) - [b]"And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah
" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:293, also). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."



Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."



Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."



Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."



Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.



Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."



Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.



Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.



Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"



Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.



Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).



Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Isla[/b]m, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.



Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, [b]strive and fight
with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."



Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."



Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."



Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).



Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)



Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"



Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.




Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand" for Allah is with you, Hadith 1:13-- "I have been ordered by Allah to fight with people till they bear testimony to the fact that there is no God but Allah."
Hadith 1.24 "Narrated Ibn `Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers"
Hadith 1.25"Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."
Hadith 19:4294 "Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war."
Hadith 1:35 "The person who participates in Allah's cause (namely, in battle). . will be recompensed by Allah either with reward or booty or will be admitted to Paradise."
Hadith 9:4 "Wherever you find infidels kill them; for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."
Hadith 9:50, 57 "No Umma (a member of Muslim community) should be killed for killing a Kafir (an infidel). . Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."
Sahih Muslim 4363: "You (the Jews) should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle and I wish to expel you from this land (Arabia)
Sahih Muslim 4366 Narrated by Umar ibn al-Khattab. Umar heard the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided meanwhile these are urs. no offence but pls someone explain Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam. Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah." Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror' Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning war. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought and killed.
Re: Isn't It True That Islam Was Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 5:13pm On Jul 17, 2013
Do you muslims read those parts of the holy qu'ran? well, if you dont there are people who do and they practise it diligently namely. boko, alshebab, taliban, al'quada, herzbola, ansarul and the only thing they've caused this world is more death than Good. terror undecided Here i present... The religion of 'P3a(3'
Re: Isn't It True That Islam Was Spread By The Sword? by udatso: 1:50pm On Jul 26, 2013
Are u new in NL. The verses you quoted have been well dealt with and the questions av bn answered on several threads here on nairaland...the only reason nobodY replied you here its because nobody wants to keep repeating what he has said...
Re: Isn't It True That Islam Was Spread By The Sword? by basilico: 4:01pm On Jul 26, 2013
In order not to offend muslims i will only quote the quran and sahìh bukhari. Is this offensive?
Re: Isn't It True That Islam Was Spread By The Sword? by vedaxcool(m): 6:00pm On Jul 26, 2013
Same crappy lies just a different day, I have responded to this misquotation.before

cyrexx:

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."


Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."


Nowhere did it say kill people for disbelieving? All the verses quoted so far goes to show you are Liar and Islam is far above your intellect to provide sensible and fair critic, the verses above clearly speaks of War situations where muslims are being attacked etc.

cyrexx:
Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."


Cheap propaganda as usual! The point remains were did it say kill people that do not believe?
cyrexx:
Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam. Prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars.


Oh dear, don't the disbelievers come cheap in their thinking? Verse 4 speaks of treaty with the pagans and those who violate them, in such situation the treraty becomes null and hence resumption of hostilities verse 6 again makes the case for those amongst the pagans who seek asylum and requires muslims to provide them such hence verse 5 again refers to the beligerent pagans who were then at war with the muslims? The liar again invents his own interpretation for the verse removing it from its historical context and its contextual context.

cyrexx:
Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Indeed this man is lower than a lying scum, verse 9:13 ask will you not . . . And those who attack you first? . . . Lol this guy is too easy abeg go call your boses they may be they are better suited for this challenge and does whatever way u follow requires to attack Islam even if it makes u look silly? Truly the disbelievers are decieved by their own lies

cyrexx:
Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad (Arabic).

So now jihad to u means war? Or why do u keep saying striving means Jihad? When that is what Jihad means ; striving. Even teaching people the religion or clearing the road of bad objects are also Jihad. Again the liar enganges in propaganda for his own myopic aims


cyrexx:
Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Lol! And the liar won't tell you that the so called two - third of the christians world were also conquered by the remaining one third of the christian world who subjected them in miserable conditions . . . In anycase the jiyza tax was a kind of tax christians paid for not participating in the army and in turn got protection from the muslims? While muslims are also required to pay zakat and christians are also exempted from it? Mordern day don't pay your tax and see what the govt will do to you.
cyrexx:
Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"


So where did it say kill them for not believing?
cyrexx:
Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.


Well we have established the cause of Allah does not involve killing disbelievers for not being muslims so whatever after thoughts u are having is just a desperate bid to engange in propaganda.
cyrexx:
Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


The wordings implies long distance battle? Lol is this how you expect to mislead people? Verse 9:40 speaks of the context where it talks about how the. Pagans drove the the prophet from his home, hence the context remains the cause of Allah which is defending the muslims and their family from the pagans and all these verses were refering to the pagans how you delusion fit the Christians into this remains quartlema.
cyrexx:
Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.



Your interpretation again shows how defcient your intellect is or how else did you come about the above if not out of fanaticism that even shames the likes of logicboy and frosbel? Nowhere do we find any of your shameless lies.
cyrexx:
Quran (9:8 - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

Where did it say kill the disbelievers for not being muslims? This chap should be pitied indeed!
cyrexx:
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."


Again we understand these to mean for defensive purpose.
cyrexx:
Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).


Liar! Where is your shame? This verse is merely talking of Allah punishing people like he did to the people of Lot etc how ur weak intellect interpreted the verse to be the above remain an evidence that you are merely just parroting lies from some misguided misfits indeed.
cyrexx:

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)


Did the Qur'an say that? No! Then u FAILED as usual? And nowhere did the verse talk of disobedience of the youth but Obstinate rebellion and ingratitude, honor killing is not sanction in the Qur'an nor in the sharia you weak intellect only aid you in quoting verbatim rather than analysing what is beinhg said!.

cyrexx:
Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"



cyrexx:
Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.


cyrexx:
Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.


I am sorry to say you must be an olodo though I know u pick these write up from some deluded fanatic, the verse simply refered to the prophet in the city of medina, who faced series of plots by the hypocrites to undermine Islam. As usual ur interpretation is laden with bigotry and deliberate falsehood of a malicious nature.

cyrexx:
Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners," Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."


grin this guy is to easy, where did the verse say kill the pagans for disbelieving? All ur interpretation are merely conjectures from the deapths of ignorance.

cyrexx:
Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand" for Allah is with you,"

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Re: Isn't It True That Islam Was Spread By The Sword? by vedaxcool(m): 6:14pm On Jul 26, 2013
cyrexx:
Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?


grin where did it speak of killing people for not being muslims?


cyrexx:
Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.

where did it say kill people for not being muslims? Smh


cyrexx:
Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."

Oh booy na liar be your real name? Which can religion u dey practice? The one wey lying is tje sure root to heaven verse 61:9 ends with DETEST not may resist why do u lie? Atleast you should be a little bit ashmed of yourself or how would you correct a child lying when you literally lie by the second?
cyrexx:
Quran (61:10-12) - "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity." This verse was given in battle. It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.


We still cannot find where it says we should kill non muslims for disbelieving in Islam!

cyrexx:
Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.


Jihad does not mean holy war, yet even at that the verse still is within the context of defensive wars.




We can conclude by saying the whole critique was based on lies and dishonesty and deliberate miswording of the Qur'an, all this is not new but it underscores the sort of low life characters that prefer lies and deciet in spreading their falsehood. Indeed the DISBEILIVERS are Decied by their own LIES

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