moscobabs: sebi d man is part of Ibo? wat do u expect? is not a bastard.folow folow people...lol

fool like u,u dnt even knw the geopolical zoning of ur country.u belong to d specie that must stand stride to urinate.anuofia.

deols:

Well I am talking in relation with teenagers who want to be sexually active.

They are active, anyway. The need to allow them is seen in many parts of the world.

In Germany(or not), condoms to fit teenagers are now being produced. [size=23pt]In Islam, premarital sex is not allowed and if such teenagers would better be married, good for them
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And the education part, nothing stops them from going to school. They do go to school still

I am not saying it is the best but there is no reason to disallow them that.

But it's happening.

"We Muslims have the right to marry when we want or give out our daughters at any age we want. It is not your business and the law must respect our right to do so."

God help your daughters they belong to you and just come through us. Please stop all these evil wicked men not just those that practice Islam, but those that pretend to follow Christ and behind molesting our daughters and sons. I am begging please give the children the strength and the ability to protect there bodies souls and minds from these pedophiles. Please give parents like us the ability to spot and stop these dangerous vultures from destroying your children. Help us to defeat these greedy men that want to continue to render us powerless, and hopeless. Oh God help us to come together and shine r eyesoo and see that the Elite are using us like toys playing us against each other using politics, tribalism, sexism and hatred to confuse each others and ourselves and discarding us like trash in the gutter" Enough is enough!!

Wahala90: It is your right to give out an under age girl's hand in marriage. Is it not the girl's right to choose who she wants to remain with for the rest of her life in marriage.

THIS IS MY MAIN PROBLEM WITH ISLAM SEEING WOMEN AS MERE PROPERTY TO B USED AND DISPOSED OFF AT ANYTIME AND THEIR WOMEN WILL NEVER SPEAK OUT! BRAINWASHED BEYOND REPAIR!

A RELIGION THAT ALLOWS YOU TO MARRY UP TO FOUR WIVES AND ALSO GUARANTEES MARRING CHILDREN IS A BIG FRAUD AND A LOUD JOKE.....NONSENSE!!!
IF TRULY YOU BIGOTS HATE WESTERN IDEAS WHAT THE HELL ARE U HYPOCRITES DOING ON THE INTERNET

deols: How many of the people against this were not already sexually active at those ages?


Oh! It is a matter of whom they are having it with?

My sister were you married as a teenager? Do you know many Muslim teenagers married happily to men twice their age? Is divorce common in your circle? I am trying to understand your point, are you saying that a 30 or 40 year old man has a right to marry a 13 year old girl who was forced by her father to marry so she will not practice premarital sex. Because from what I read from Muslim girls that have written about this they are forced because of connections or financial situations. They are never happy and usually divorce as soon as possible.

I am with you young ladies these days are lacking proper upbringing any how. All the leaders from every state are very busy defiling little girls at private parties abroad and in 9ja. Girls are not serious about staying a virgin because mothers do not protect and talk to them. I am lucky that I had protective siblings and my family was financially able to provide for me and I waited until after I got married, but not all ladies are lucky. The point is that most teenagers are forced to marry these guys it is not because of love or free will. Two Hausa families live on our property and we have rescued several of their girls from the North because of this exact thing!

What about the rights of a child? Wwwhat if the child prefer to remain a child?

Minor children are under the care of their parents and if the parents forbid such union then there is no right for a grown ash man to rape a child. What child going to understand an old love-vendor?

What could an old love-vendor have in common with a child

No one have a right to force marriage nor a child should endure such bullshit.

Dagoma: We'll continue to marry at young age, let them continue to marry after their daughters might have finished their prostitution or become frustrated or become old or all of the above.

You will continue to breed BH and almajiris as these children are left to fend for themselves. Why the fascination with marriage and having too many kids and no emphasis on taking care of them. The rich are getting richer and the poor are wasting productive hours making babies and not taking care of them.

This issue has been over flogged by Islamophobes who enjoy using this as an opportunity to mock the religion of Islam and the prophet (SAW) for having married a girl of nine; while forgetting the tender age at which Mary the mother jesus was betrothed to joseph.
Some would argue that, well that was many centuries ago and such tradition should no longer apply in modern society, forgetting also that up till today that the Christian capital, the Vatican, still maintains the age for sexual consent at 13 yrs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe).
BTW, we are not even talking of marriage but fornication, which is increasingly becoming more and more acceptable within Christian communities these days, as Christians continue changing (or more accurately, devaluing) their religious principles in the name of modernity - gradually turning it into man made rather than a religion from God.
Talking about paedophelia, well we all know that the biggest paedophiles are in fact Christian Catholic priests, who specialise in young boys.
Yes, Muslims prefer to marry off their daughters early in order to safeguard them from the temptation of fornication and should continue to be an option for those Muslims who wish it, therefore nobody should have the right to take it away - especially Christians who it least concerns, rather they should concentrate on cleansing their rapidly decaying religion which condones tolerance for fornication, homosexulity, alcoholism etc.
Its shocking yet not surprising that today Christian men in Nigeria are increasingly choosing to impregnate their women before marrying them for fear that the girl could have been a serial fornicator whose womb could have been abused and expired due to several previous abortions for other men - God forbid bad thing!

Ola one:
But it's happening.

I am talking about what is permissible.

deols:

I am talking about what is permissible.

I know sweetie
Long time

Deols, just checked your profile, wetin Obama do you?

biafranqueen: My sister were you married as a teenager? Do you know many Muslim teenagers married happily to men twice their age? Is divorce common in your circle? I am trying to understand your point, are you saying that a 30 or 40 year old man has a right to marry a 13 year old girl who was forced by her father to marry so she will not practice premarital sex. Because from what I read from Muslim girls that have written about this they are forced because of connections or financial situations. They are never happy and usually divorce as soon as possible.

I am with you young ladies these days are lacking proper upbringing any how. All the leaders from every state are very busy defiling little girls at private parties abroad and in 9ja. Girls are not serious about staying a virgin because mothers do not protect and talk to them. I am lucky that I had protective siblings and my family was financially able to provide for me and I waited until after I got married, but not all ladies are lucky. The point is that most teenagers are forced to marry these guys it is not because of love or free will. Two Hausa families live on our property and we have rescued several of their girls from the North because of this exact thing!

Why are you all talking of 30-40 year old men?? Are 30-40 year olds the only people who get married?

Maybe some are forced to get married and you have seen them but it would be a big LIE to continue to say that all of them are forced.

How are you sure Muslim girls wrote those books? Are you a learner? A grown man sits behind a computer, writing how he is Fatima and as well a Maryam suffering somewhere. Go to the Muslims section and check for a topic on hoaxes and fabrications. That will make you understand things better. It is all propaganda.

We cant be sure that anyone lived on your property but we can assume they did.. Such isolated cases should be reported to relevant authorities.

I am against premarital sex as well. But if teenagers MUST have sex, they should be married before it.

Me_Aboki: This issue has been over flogged by Islamophobes who enjoy using this as an opportunity to mock the religion of Islam and the prophet (SAW) for having married a girl of nine; while forgetting the tender age at which Mary the mother jesus was betrothed to joseph.
Some would argue that, well that was many centuries ago and such tradition should no longer apply in modern society, forgetting also that up till today that the Christian capital, the Vatican, still maintains the age for sexual consent at 13 yrs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe).
BTW, we are not even talking of marriage but fornication, which is increasingly becoming more and more acceptable within Christian communities these days, as Christians continue changing (or more accurately, devaluing) their religious principles in the name of modernity - gradually turning it into man made rather than a religion from God.
Talking about paedophelia, well we all know that the biggest paedophiles are in fact Christian Catholic priests, who specialise in young boys.
Yes, Muslims prefer to marry off their daughters early in order to safeguard them from the temptation of fornication and should continue to be an option for those Muslims who wish it, therefore nobody should have the right to take it away - especially Christians who it least concerns, rather they should concentrate on cleansing their rapidly decaying religion which condones tolerance for fornication, homosexulity, alcoholism etc.
Its shocking yet not surprising that today Christian men in Nigeria are increasingly choosing to impregnate their women before marrying them for fear that the girl could have been a serial fornicator whose womb could have been abused and expired due to several previous abortions for other men - God forbid bad thing!

Would you allow your 13-yrd old to be married to a 40yr old papa? You clearly do not know the difference between health issues vs religion. Fornication=religion: marriage to a minor= health

is nigeria going forward or backwards if u enact d law now people will take advantage of this u wil see people sleeping wit underage girls

deols:

Why are you all talking of 30-40 year old men?? Are 30-40 year olds the only people who get married?

Maybe some are forced to get married and you have seen them but it would be a big LIE to continue to say that all of them are forced.

How are you sure Muslim girls wrote those books? Are you a learner? A grown man sits behind a computer, writing how he is Fatima and as well a Maryam suffering somewhere. Go to the Muslims section and check for a topic on hoaxes and fabrications. That will make you understand things better. It is all propaganda.

We cant be sure that anyone lived on your property but we can assume they did.. Such isolated cases should be reported to relevant authorities.

I am against premarital sex as well. But if teenagers MUST have sex, they should be married before it.

Usually 18 year old Hausa boys are not financially prepared to marry are you a learner?

Are you happily married? Are you under 18? You have not answered these questions. I believe that those can be hoaxes. Trust me but are you saying that is does not happen when the underage girl is forced to marry as this man so openly admitted?

Yes we do have Hausa's on our property in the East and one of the young ladies that was running from her father was helping us in the city. How can she report it to whom she was 15 and her father wanted her to marry she wanted to get an education and she ran to her sister in the east. She told me stories of her teenage friends that were beaten by husbands until they could not walk.
Is it better to marry young and then divorce in 20s is that the strategy if this is helping you to stop promiscuous sex in your region why is AIDS so rampant?

deols:

I am talking about what is permissible.

How often is it permissible?

lee007:

THIS IS MY MAIN PROBLEM WITH ISLAM SEEING WOMEN AS MERE PROPERTY TO B USED AND DISPOSED OFF AT ANYTIME AND THEIR WOMEN WILL NEVER SPEAK OUT! BRAINWASHED BEYOND REPAIR!

A RELIGION THAT ALLOWS YOU TO MARRY UP TO FOUR WIVES AND ALSO GUARANTEES MARRING CHILDREN IS A BIG FRAUD AND A LOUD JOKE.....NONSENSE!!!
IF TRULY YOU BIGOTS HATE WESTERN IDEAS WHAT THE HELL ARE U HYPOCRITES DOING ON THE INTERNET

and what are you smoking??

If you don't know anything about Islam just keep your hypocrisy mouth shut...

Ejkemechristia: Make una sharer am b/w 2 of u, islamic is a curse to Nigeria.

may God punish u severely for this abominable statement u jst made. Is dis the message jesus brought to u pple in ur bible? If u affirm to it then u r the greastest liar of all time.and nt worthy to even be called a christain. Bt a two timing jew.

@lee007 as if its ur fucking father dat owns the internet. Come and stop us frm using it nw bastard!

y r we even listening to trash wen we all kw dat those bastards that r shouting undermarriage here did nt even get to 18 b4 being deflowered by men and those sugar daddy animals. Even on dis thread. Prove me wrong and let me see a non lying gal who is more than 18 and still a virgin on this thread. What is the use of tasting the forbidden fruit b4 18 and yet not be married.

He's been a muslim n dint just convert((quote author=ilugunboy]...and this is the dude some deluded dolts were praising to the heaven not long ago on this forum.

Asari is a confused adult...torn between a religion he converted into as an adult and the belief-system of the environment that he spent his formative years.

Woe betides anyone that takes this guy serious.[/quote]

Na so toto dey hungry una for ur religion? Every motivation for ur fight na toto... Wetin sef? 7virgins toto and now small picking to. This your religion is something you should ask question about as a sane person.

Nairalanders are too sensitive n aggressive whn an issue has religious undertone. Wonder where dis will land us all.

hardarms5050: y r we even listening to trash wen we all kw dat those bastards that r shouting undermarriage here did nt even get to 18 b4 being deflowered by men and those sugar daddy animals. Even on dis thread. Prove me wrong and let me see a non lying gal who is more than 18 and still a virgin on this thread. What is the use of tasting the forbidden fruit b4 18 and yet not be married.

What is the use? It is called human rights. If I want to have sex before the age of 18 with another minor, that is my right to exercise. You cannot force me to go and marry an old disgusting freak because you don't want me to have premarital sex. Are you daft? Would you say this same ignorant nonsense about boys? If you were forced to marry at 12 so that you will not have premarital sex. Would you open your foul mouth and support it. You are highly ignorant.

adconline:
Would you allow your 13-yrd old to be married to a 40yr old papa? You clearly do not know the difference between health issues vs religion. Fornication=religion: marriage to a minor= health

My friend, its a matter of choice, a legitimate right for those who wish to pursue it, it is not up to you or anybody to deprive them of that right, just in them same way that the Pope allows for sex between people as young as 13 years in the Vatican, in fact why don't you address the same question to him - at least Muslims give it the dignity of marriage.

Me_Aboki:

My friend, its a matter of choice, a legitimate right for those who wish to pursue it, it is not up to you or anybody to deprive them of that right, just in them same way that the Pope allows for sex between people as young as 13 years in the Vatican, in fact why don't you address the same question to him - at least Muslims give it the dignity of marriage.

Yes, it is a matter of choice. The choice of the girl child to a safe, well balanced, fulfilling life. Do you know how many children die in child birth? While giving birth to children. The Pope does not allow sex between 13 years old. Stop telling bold face lies.

Black Peni5:

While you're at it, also remove your clothes and wear whatever it is your ancestors were wearing. Also stop schooling and return to the farm since these are also western imports.

Heehehehe well said bruv

Abeg anybody here know where iya Basira restaurant dey? I dey hungry

We are dealing with a case of insanity and selfishness all together now. Selfish ambition supported with the use of religion to cover up guilt. When you read the Book; "Who is this Allah" by a guy called Moshay or so, a well researched literature, you will understand a lot of "laws" created to satisfy selfish ambition and covered up with "religion" to justify. This eshlam is an invention by one crazy dude, a very selfish one. Sadly he has many gullible followers now.

This one na yeye. I don't blame his decision. People should respect their opinions but taking underage girls for married, Bleep off. That Idea i sense is from the devil himself. Such people should themselves in the shoes of those girls. Having sex with them when the reproductive organs are still undergoing development for the years to come. Muslims should stop that.
I know say he dey sweet those yeye men when they marry those small small girls. But the girls go dey cry and even have some depression and ailments. Na them sabi...wicked sex machines.

hardarms5050: y r we even listening to trash wen we all kw dat those bastards that r shouting undermarriage here did nt even get to 18 b4 being deflowered by men and those sugar daddy animals. Even on dis thread. Prove me wrong and let me see a non lying gal who is more than 18 and still a virgin on this thread. What is the use of tasting the forbidden fruit b4 18 and yet not be married.

For your information, oga, I am still a virgin....

bgirl:

Yes, it is a matter of choice. The choice of the girl child to a safe, well balanced, fulfilling life. Do you know how many children die in child birth? While giving birth to children. The Pope does not allow sex between 13 years old. Stop telling bold face lies.

Pls stop wallowing in ignorance, even in some American states underaged marriage has not been outlawed, whats different is that parental consent is additionally required.
Let me tell you, even in UK there are ppl calling for lowering of the age of sexual consent (currently standing at 16) based on scientific research relating to early onset of female puberty, increasing sexual activity and teenage pregnancy etc.
http://www.answers.com/topic/british-manifestations-to-lower-the-age-of-consent
Oh, yes Papa Roma i.e. the Pope allows for sex between ppl as young as 13 yrs in the holy city of the vatican - just google, vatican age of sexual consent.
You need to educate yourself a little more on such matter before you open your mouth pls.