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Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 11:43pm On Jul 20, 2013 |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by makahlj2: 3:31pm On Jul 23, 2013 |
somalia11:I won't comment on the "Caucasianness" of Ethiopians. But how can they be Aryans if they're Semites? Aryans and Semites are two mutually exclusive categories, just ask Hitler P.S. Hitler wasn't Aryan either; his Y-DNA haplogroup was ... E1b1b, like most Ethiopians! ROFLMAO... 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Semira22(f): 6:17am On Jul 24, 2013 |
We ain't Caucasian dude, stop spreading false info. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 11:40am On Jul 24, 2013 |
Semira22: We ain't Caucasian dude, stop spreading false info. habesh you need to sit down, and finish your raw meat. Shouldnt you be on a street corner in addis. |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by makahlj2: 12:32pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
somalia11:If Habesha are Caucasians, then Somalis would be Caucasian too, no? It seems to me that certain black-azz Somali wishes he was Caucasian 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by morpheus24: 3:01pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
@ poster At least spell the word caucasian correctly, lets know you are not an illiterate. 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Eri8: 9:51pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Us habeshas are not Caucasian. Stop spreading the stupid info in this forum. 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Nobody: 9:57pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Eri8: Us habeshas are not Caucasian. Stop spreading the stupid info in this forum. Yep. ^^^Note horn of Africans group with other Africans. 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 5:30am On Jul 25, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: Site ur sources cause somali DNA has been searched by thousands of samples on dnatribes.com and it shows 55 percent Arab similarity If Somalis are negroids like u then why do we speak afroasiatic language and why do we have different features, is also a coincidence that the people who live next to Arabia for thousands of years and traded with them and speak the same family language also happen to look different then the negroids in the interior of Africa? Desperate much? |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Nobody: 5:57am On Jul 25, 2013 |
*Sigh* I'll entertain you just this once... somalia11: The study is from here. http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-snp-admixture-2013-02-11.pdf And may I add that the source I post is RECENT...A 2013 study. And DNAtribes even clusters Horners with other Africans like Khoisans and West Africans! HA! somalia11: Idi*t...Phenotype has nothing to do with an language group... -__- This Hausa would be considered Negroid by your definition. Yet Hausa people speak a Chadic language which is a BRANCH of the Afro-Asiatic language! Explain why these Nigerian Fulanis speak a Niger Congo language? Niger Congo is not even found in the horn! Not only is their culture and language West African. But DNA tells us that Nigerian Fulanis Y-DNA and mtDNA is 100% WEST AFRICAN and their Autosomal DNA shows us that their 75-85% African! HA! Whats the matter...? Your Negroid theory not working anymore? Again Negroid is not genetically defined. "Individuals with the same morphology do not necessarily cluster with each other by lineage, and a given lineage does not include only individuals with the same trait complex (or 'racial type'). Y-chromosome DNA from Africa alone suffices to make this point. Africa contains populations whose members have a range of external phenotypes. This variation has usually been described in terms of 'race' (Caucasoids, Pygmoids, Congoids, Khoisanoids). But the Y-chromosome clade defined by the PN2 transition (PN2/M35, PN2/M2) shatters the boundaries of phenotypically defined races and true breeding populations across a great geographical expanse. African peoples with a range of skin colors, hair forms and physiognomies have substantial percentages of males whose Y chromosomes form closely related clades with each other, but not with others who are phenotypically similar. The individuals in the morphologically or geographically defined 'races' are not characterized by 'private' distinct lineages restricted to each of them." (S O Y Keita, R A Kittles, et al. "Conceptualizing human variation," Nature Genetics 36, S17 - S20 (2004) Is this straight nosed Tutsi a Negroid HA! somalia11: Nope, but you are since you try to push your Hamitic race superiority theory on a West-Central African site! While being banned multiple times! LMAO! That my friend is desperation. Even your fellow horners like Eri8 and Semira22 think you're loony! 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Nobody: 6:36am On Jul 25, 2013 |
As for different features...I've already been over this a million times with you. Different features among Africans, particularly EAST AFRICANS, like narrow noses are not due to different "race" mixes but are part of the built-in physical diversity and variation of African peoples. Narrow noses appear in the oldest African populations for example, in Kenya's Gamble Cave complex. East Africans like Somalians or Kenyans do not need any outside race "mix" or migration to make them look the way they do. QUOTE(s): ".. a[b]ll their features can be found in several living populations of East Africa, like the Tutsi of Rwanda and Burundi, who are very dark skinned and differ greatly from Europeans in a number of body proportions.. There is every reason to believe that they are ancestral to the living 'Elongated East Africans'. Neither of these populations, fossil and modern, should be considered to be closely related to the populations of Europe and western Asia..[/b] In skin colour, the Tutsi are darker than the Hutu, in the reverse direction to that leading to the caucasoids. Lip thickness provides a similar case: on an average the lips of the Tutsi are thicker than those of the Hutu." [Jean Hiernaux, The People of Africa (1975), pgs 42-43, 62-63) "In sub-Saharan Africa, many anthropological characters show a wide range of population means or frequencies. In some of them, the whole world range is covered in the sub-continent. Here live the shortest and the tallest human populations, the one with the highest and the one with the lowest nose, the one with the thickest and the one with the thinnest lips in the world. In this area, the range of the average nose widths covers 92 per cent of the world range: only a narrow range of extremely low means are absent from the African record. Means for head diameters cover about 80 per cent of the world range; 60 per cent is the corresponding value for a variable once cherished by physical anthropologists, the cephalic index, or ratio of the head width to head length expressed as a percentage....." - Jean Hiernaux, "The People of Africa" 1975 p.53, 54 "Prehistoric human crania from Bromhead's Site, Willey's Kopje, Makalia Burial Site, Nakuru, and other localities in the Eastern Rift Valley of Kenya are reassessed using measurements and a multivariate statistical approach. Materials available for comparison include series of Bushman and Hottentot crania. South and East African Negroes, and Egyptians. Up to 34 cranial measurements taken on these series are utilized to construct three multiple discriminant frameworks, each of which can assign modern individuals to a correct group with considerable accuracy. When the prehistoric crania are classified with the help of these discriminants, results indicate that several of the skulls are best grouped with modern Negroes. This is especially clear in the case of individuals from Bromhead's Site, Willey's Kopje, and Nakuru, and the evidence hardly suggests post-Pleistocene domination of the Rift and surrounding territory by "Mediterranean" Caucasoids, as has been claimed. Recent linguistic and archaeological findings are also reviewed, and these seem to support application of the term Nilotic Negro to the early Rift populations." (Rightmire GP. New studies of post-Pleistocene human skeletal remains from the Rift Valley, Kenya. Am J Phys Anthropol. 1975 May;42(3):351-69. ) "....inhabitants of East Africa right on the equator have appreciably longer, narrower, and higher noses than people in the Congo at the same latitude. A former generation of anthropologists used to explain this paradox by invoking an invasion by an itinerant "white" population from the Mediterranean area, although this solution raised more problems than it solved since the East Africans in question include some of the blackest people in the world with characteristically wooly hair and a body build unique among the world's populations for its extreme linearity and height.... The relatively long noses of East Africa become explicable then when one realizes that much of the area is extremely dry for parts of the year." (C. Loring Brace, "Nonracial Approach Towards Human Diversity," cited in The Concept of Race, Edited by Ashley Montagu, The Free Press, 1980, pp. 135-136, 138) "The .... excavations at Gogoshiis Qabe (Somalia) uncovered eleven virtually complete and articulated primary burials...Closest morphological affinities are with early Holocene skeletons from Lake Turkana, Kenya...and Lake Besaka, Ethiopia.." (S. Brandt, (1986) The Upper Pleistocene and early Holocene prehistory of the Horn of Africa. Journal African Archaeological Review. Volume 4, Number 1, Pages 41-82 ) "The role of tall, linearly built populations in eastern Africa's prehistory has always been debated. Traditionally, they are viewed as late migrants into the area. But as there is better palaeoanthropological and linguistic documentation for the earlier presence of these populations than for any other group in eastern Africa, it is far more likely that they are indigenous eastern Africans. ... prehistoric linear populations show resemblances to both Upper Pleistocene eastern African fossils and present-day, non-Bantu-speaking groups in eastern Africa, with minor differences stemming from changes in overall robusticity of the dentition and skeleton. This suggests a longstanding tradition of linear populations in eastern Africa, contributing to the indigenous development of cultural and biological diversity from the Pleistocene up to the present." (L . A . SCHEPARTZ, "Who were the later Pleistocene eastern Africans?" The African Archaeological Review, 6 (1988), pp. 57- 72) Again...The features of horners are NOT unique to Africa and can be found in many different African population. The features of Horners, Fulanis, Beja, Nubians, Siwa, Tuaregs, Maasai, Wolof or any Africans with narrow features is due to them living in DRY regions of Africa like the Sahel for a VERY long time, so they adapted to the climate. Narrow features are not needed in humid regions. That is why horners have their specific features. Not denying some foreign admixture in some African groups, but thats the case. And if you want to talk about unique features, find me a Horner that looks like this. Khoisans are the most exotic looking Africans in Africa hands down...Their features can't be found in other parts of Africa. Meanwhile horners can. 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 3:24am On Jul 26, 2013 |
this is very sad, a negroid running after somalis.
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Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Nobody: 3:55am On Jul 26, 2013 |
[img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1218487_image_jpg0d5b1c4c7f720f698946c7f6ab08f687[/img] Do you even know what this is even saying Its basically saying Somalis cluster with other Africans! You still have not debunked this. HA! |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 9:55am On Jul 26, 2013 |
u idoot the map i posted that somalis are closer to indians than to negros, look how far apart the dots are the shade is showing the region not cluster, look at the distance between the dots i got that from the same link u posted desperate trying to link himself to somalis by force explain this.... lmao
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Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Nobody: 9:24pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
somalia11: u idoot the map i posted that somalis are closer to indians than to negros, look how far apart the dots areNo...I'm afraid you're the idoot. Again your own map groups Somalis with other Africans. You still have no debunked this. Why can't you HA! somalia11:LOL! Don't play dumb. I'm merely correcting your ignorance. There is no indication that I want to be Somali. Why would I Again I'm correcting your ignorance once again. somalia11: Can you explain what that map means and why its so small So far you're just posting random things. Explain this...LMAO! HA! Checkmate! |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 10:36pm On Jul 26, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: Using studies from 1999 lmao Even in that graph it shows Somalis are from from African Americans who are 15 percent white, what a fail |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Nobody: 8:56am On Jul 27, 2013 |
lol...Don't try to divert. Who cares if the study was from 1999, you still have not debunked it. And you clearly can't read...The study states that Somalis actually group closer to African Americans and West Africans BEFORE they do to Europeans and Middle Easterners. The study is NOT saying that Somalis are closely related to AA's or West Africans, but that they are more closely related to those two than Europeans and Middle Easterners. Thus saying that their African. [img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1218487_image_jpg0d5b1c4c7f720f698946c7f6ab08f687[/img] ^^^Oh and I just want to finally correct this. That has nothing to do with DNA/genetics but just crania. So that doesn't help your case at all. HA! 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 10:57am On Jul 27, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: lol...Don't try to divert. Who cares if the study was from 1999, you still have not debunked it. The map is DNA not cranial and from the same link u gave The DNA of Somalis on dnatribes 2013
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Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 11:14am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Morpheus aka kid strangle aka somali obsessor
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Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 11:19am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Somalia for the win
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Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 11:25am On Jul 27, 2013 |
Nairaland entertaining somalinet users since 2009
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Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Nobody: 12:38pm On Jul 27, 2013 |
Are you serious? [img]http://tinypic.com/1grbd0[/img] Stop lying..That is NOT from my link and it does represent crania because its from the Brace et al. (1993) study. Epic fail!!! LOL! This is NOT from 2013 but an old study [img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1220554_image_jpg0d5b1c4c7f720f698946c7f6ab08f687[/img] And so is this one. [img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1220560_image_jpg0d5b1c4c7f720f698946c7f6ab08f687[/img] Why don't you post the links to the actual study http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-snp-admixture-2012-03-12.pdf But let me correct you...In the region chart(which you didn't post) showed people from Somalia to be 91.2% horn of African and you'll see where DNAtribes groups them. Just click on the link. The label "Middle Eastern" as well as the region called that on the first map is somewhat arbitrary and has no real meaning. If we replace Middle East with "Region 1" and Sub Sahara with "Region 2" it is just as valid. That said many people in the horn DO INFACT have ancestry from areas in "Region 1" And if we go back far enough we may all (Wet Sahara). - This cuts right across Central Sudan.....much of the paternal lineages in the Horn.. Particularly Somalia (M78) represents a back migration FROM "Region 1".............it is DNA tribes that felt it their duty to call it "Middle Eastern"......That said ancestry from say "Egypt" or "Sudan" or all places in the Sahara is not "Middle Eastern" at all....And when you look at it for what it is you get something different : World Regions on page 18. On page 4 Notice Fulani @ 26% Middle East Page 5 Hadza Tanzania @ 5% Middle East Hema East‐Central Africa @ 17% Middle East. Maasai Kinyawa Kenya @ 28% Sandawe Tanzania @ 17% On page 18 this northern region Ancestry (Which they happen to call "Middle Eastern"is split up. Mainly into North African in the case of the Fulani and Mandinka and Horn African and even "Great Lakes region" in the case of Blue/White nile people. A new component appears that they call "Arabian" which some Africans also have an affinity to. Get what I'm saying? Now heres when DNAtribes actually fixes their problem. http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-snp-admixture-2013-02-11.pdf ^^^^Horners group with other Africans. And I get to also spit in your face since that is a RECENT...REPEAT RECENT 2013 study by DNAtribes UNLIKE yours. HA! [img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1220561_image_jpg0d5b1c4c7f720f698946c7f6ab08f687[/img] ^^^This proves you don't know what your posting and again I get to spit in your face. E1b1b1 ORIGINATED in Africa. The only Sub clade that is not found in Africa and originated outside of Africa is E-V13 which is not even found in horners especially Somalis. HA! Thanks for deflating your own argument. I appreciate it. 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 1:07pm On Jul 27, 2013 |
Morpheus get a life All the charts are from 2011 on DNA tribes u desperately want to claim Somalis |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Nobody: 10:27pm On Jul 27, 2013 |
somalia11: Morpheus get a life LMAO! Now you think I'm Morpheus? I'm just doing this to piss you off. No my study is from a RECENT 2013 DNAtribes study which you cant debunk. Don't be butt-hurt just because I debunked your precious hamitic myth theory. You get a life, you've been trolling this forum for ages a forum about a people you claim are superior to! 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 12:12am On Jul 28, 2013 |
KidStranglehold:
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Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Nobody: 12:19am On Jul 28, 2013 |
Give up already I already debunked everything you posted. I already explained how your chars were futile and how DNAtribes corrected themselves in a later study. Horners DO NOT carry West African genes since there are NO west Africans in the horn. They carry Northeast African genes like other Afro-Asiatic and Nile Saharan speakers. Again a more accurate and recent study. Source: http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-snp-admixture-2013-02-11.pdf 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 2:08am On Jul 28, 2013 |
posting debunked maps, lmao the benefits of claiming somalis is still high. |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Nobody: 5:07am On Jul 28, 2013 |
somalia11: posting debunked maps, lmao First off...Thats not a map but chart. And how has it been debunked? You haven't even posted anything that debunks what I have posted. Get real. If I was claiming Somali, I would be claiming that I am one or that I descend from one. I'm merely correcting your ignorance. Somalis are Northeast Africans and their genes show it. Get over this hamitic race myth already. 1 Like |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by somalia11: 5:26am On Jul 28, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: African doesn't mean black u desperate for Somalis cause without us your history's of blacks is just slavery |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Fulaman198(m): 5:27am On Jul 28, 2013 |
somalia11: Speaking an Afro Asiatic language has nothing to do with being Semitic. Hausa is an Afro-Asiatic language, Tamasheq is an Afro-asiatic language, guess what? Hausa are probably the darkest people in the world (REAL HAUSA, not Hausa mixed with Fulani people). 2 Likes |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Fulaman198(m): 5:30am On Jul 28, 2013 |
BTW, Fulani have nothing to do with Middle East. Our roots and origin is from Senegambia and Mauritania. North Africa makes sense, because before Arabs came to Africa, that's where we lived. Most original Africans (true Berbers like the Touareg and Fulani, Kanuri, Hausa, etc.) were moved from North Africa when Arabs came and invaded. 3 Likes |
Re: Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video by Nobody: 5:42am On Jul 28, 2013 |
somalia11: D*mb@$$ African means biologically. Just like for European. Trust me I don't need Somali history or even African history to be proud. Trust me...Somalia11. I know Africa and Somalia had great history, but what my ancestors did>>>What Somalis did. |
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