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South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 3:52am On Aug 01, 2013 |
Everyday in the news a Nigerian with Igbo sounding name is arrested, deported or killed in South Africa. What do you think will happen if SA starts to recognize Nigerian contribution to its economy and starts treating us with more respect and tender loving care that we deserve? Pick one: a) South Africa's economy will grow and expand. b) South Africa's Nigerian population will grow and expand. c) both a and b. methinks SA is trying to reduce/control its Nigerian population hence the hostility. But is it putting its economy at risk by doing so? |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by Nobody: 4:09am On Aug 01, 2013 |
So now it's no longer Nigerians that are persecuting igbos, it is now SA? Ok.. I think nigeria needs to let Igbo people form their own nation! 1 Like |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by manny4life(m): 4:22am On Aug 01, 2013 |
0lumide: So now it's no longer Nigerians that are persecuting igbos, it is now SA? Ok.. I think nigeria needs to let Igbo people form their own nation! Amen o, I wish they will let us go... At least my brothers and sisters will find their way back home and build their home. |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 4:25am On Aug 01, 2013 |
manny4life: If igbos really want to leave Nigeria, they would have by now. We are no longer under millitary rule, all igbos need to do is appeal to their governors to lead the cause. The biggest threat to Biafra is actually Igbo governors, not Nigeria. If igbos can vote for MASSOB representatives as their next governors, then I will believe that they are serious about leaving. Until then, this whole "let us go" talk is just rubbish. |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by Standing5(m): 4:32am On Aug 01, 2013 |
If criminal activities too are part of economic developement then let the Igbos openly reguest that they legalize all criminal acts in SA. |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by manny4life(m): 4:48am On Aug 01, 2013 |
99cent: Please save your rhetoric abeg... How about the whole Nigeria lead the cause and not Igbos only? After all as much as we want our own country, hypothetically, everyone is tired of us, so it shouldn't be about us, but ALL. If you're tired of us, DO SOMETHING. Make no mistake, Igbos want their own country, but def not all cost...One Nigeria is not working but we can still benefit while it last. |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 5:03am On Aug 01, 2013 |
manny4life: You dey craze. you are very clearly high on drugs. I personally as a yoruba person if I am tired of you and want you to leave Nigeria, I will ask the govt to round you up and throw you into cameroon if it were up to me. duh why should "nigeria" lead the cause for biafra. does that even make any sense to you? another igbo who doesn't know what he wants. better go and find a way to vote a MASSOB sympathizer into power in SE government. that is pretty much the only way Biafra can be realized. If you will recall, even Ojukwu was governor of eastern states in his time. back then we were under millitary rule. today, i'm sure a referendum will be used. Sudan is an example. keep in mind the South Sudanese did the work for themselves. they clearly wanted independence badly. 1 Like |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by manny4life(m): 5:09am On Aug 01, 2013 |
99cent: The effect of cheap weed will continue to phase on you. Like I said, we're not pressed for Biafra yet, not until we've gained and benefitted from "ONE NIGERIA" If you CANNOT deal with US, whether we bitchhh or complain or whine or whatever, you got two options --- PUT UP or SHUT UP....SIMPLE. CASE CLOSED 1 Like |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by kettykin: 5:18am On Aug 01, 2013 |
What Really does Fashola want. Fashola during the last press conference for constitutional review openly opposed a return to regional system of Government which would have made it mandatory for people to return back to their Region as was practiced in the 60s and only be in the Federal capital only http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/fashola-opposes-geo-political-zones-autonomy-for-councils/138360 Lagos State Governor, Mr. Babatunde Fashola (SAN), has described as erroneous attempts to grant legal recognition to six geo-political zones and autonomy to local councils under the on-going review of the 1999 Constitution Presently the Niger Deltans and Igbos support a return to the regional system of Governance via the 6 Regions http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/gowon-clark-fashola-obi-disagree-over-constitution-review/ He had support from former Information Minister and the National Leader of the Ijaw people, Chief Edwin Clark. A return to the 6 Regional system of Governance would make everybody or most people to return to their region and each region would have to cater for its own destitutes as opposed to the present 36 states under a federal system. The Yorubas and Fashola should rather than come on online and express their Knowledge deficiencies go and push for a Return to Regional system of Governance , a Con federal System of Governance where each region exist as an autonomous country sharing only armed forces and foreign affairs with other regions while they can choose to have different currencies and independent currencies and police. Obasanjo a yoruba Hypocrite vehemently opposed Confederation http://www.economist.com/node/332151 Meanwhile, the strains increase. Tempers are frayed. The violence in the north has set off calls for Nigeria to split into a looser confederation of ethnic regions, an idea that the “detribalised” Mr Obasanjo finds abhorrent. “One of the things that makes Nigeria important today in the world is its diversity. Although this diversity has a number of problems associated with it, its advantages far outweigh its disadvantages,” he preached to a crowd in the south-west last month. |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 5:27am On Aug 01, 2013 |
manny4life: hahahahahahhahahahaha whenever u become ready and serious, let us know. until then keep dancing azonto and waving israeli flags. it keeps me entertained. |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 5:40am On Aug 01, 2013 |
@kittykin, Fashola wants state power. not regional zones. He will only support regional zones IF such zones become autonomous governments rather than a mere way to consolidate states and reduce individual state power. His words are very clear. Geo-political zones do not have any definite or defined responsibility, leadership and administrative structure. It is insignificant as he sees it and meant to confuse us. He is a lawyer by training afterall. he knows his legal stuff.
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Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by Nobody: 5:43am On Aug 01, 2013 |
when Ghanaians wer in Nigeria were they treated fairly? now their country is better we'd d once facing challenges in other 'minute' countries. #Nigeria must go bags now selling in Kenya an SA |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by kettykin: 5:58am On Aug 01, 2013 |
99cent: @kittykin, Fashola wants state power. not regional zones. He will only support regional zones IF such zones become autonomous governments rather than a mere way to consolidate states and reduce individual state power. His words are very clear. Geo-political zones do not have any definite or defined responsibility, leadership and administrative structure. It is insignificant as he sees it and meant to confuse us. He is a lawyer by training afterall. he knows his legal stuff. The Federal system with states serving as the federating units has it limitations which include that everybody in the federation has the right to live/exist where ever he/she wants see below 41. (1) Every citizen of Nigeria is entitled to move freely throughout Nigeria and to reside in any part thereof, and no citizen of Nigeria shall be expelled from Nigeria or refused entry thereby or exit therefrom (2) Nothing in subsection (1) of this section shall invalidate any law that is reasonably justifiable in a democratic society- (a) imposing restrictions on the residence or movement of any person who has committed or is reasonably suspected to have committed a criminal offence in order to prevent him from leaving Nigeria; or (b) providing for the removal of any person from Nigeria to any other country to:- (i) be tried outside Nigeria for any criminal offence, or (ii) undergo imprisonment outside Nigeria in execution of the sentence of a court of law in respect of a criminal offence of which he has been found guilty: Provided that there is reciprocal agreement between Nigeria and such other country in relation to such matter. However a return to a confederal or regional system of governance which Fashola is running away from can grant him the right to expel or deport people he deems not fit to exist in Lagos |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 6:03am On Aug 01, 2013 |
Yungwizzzy: when Ghanaians wer in Nigeria were they treated fairly? now their country is better we'd d once facing challenges in other 'minute' countries. #Nigeria must go bags now selling in Kenya an SA Lagosians aren't complaining. we def don't want the ghanaians back at least not in droves. those bags are being sold to Igbo Nigerians. I wonder if a dearth of igbos in kenya and SA will destroy the kenyan and SA economy. lol |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 6:07am On Aug 01, 2013 |
kettykin: well, the "regional system" that is being put at the table is not really to Fashola's liking. it doesn't have enough power and is a mere dressgown. If the constitution fixes it so that each region has autonomous power then i'm sure Fashola will gladly accept for now, he prefers the state power he has. |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by Nobody: 6:09am On Aug 01, 2013 |
The whole african, sorry world economy is at risk because of the vainglorious chest beaters. I'm sure its ibos who drive the extractive industry in sa, and who own 70 percent of SA real estate |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 6:09am On Aug 01, 2013 |
besides, IMO what fashola wants is more state power. state ability to deport etc lol Fashola is not a regional governor. he is a state governor. i'm not saying it is right. but u that's what I feel is going on. |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 6:13am On Aug 01, 2013 |
oyb: The whole african, sorry world economy is at risk because of the vainglorious chest beaters. right. the world revolves around igbos.... so it will naturally come to a stand still and become incapacitated without their presence not just Nigeria or SA... the entire world! |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by Nobody: 6:13am On Aug 01, 2013 |
99cent: The whole truth is I will rather prefer these Ghanians back in place of the Ibos in Lagos.....there was a time in the 70's and early 80's when these Ghanians were here....many of them. Lovely ...hardworking and respectful people that don't go around beating the hairy chest of how they are the one running the economy ...unlike what we have now with Igbos. 1 Like |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 6:16am On Aug 01, 2013 |
ilugunboy: well now of course. if they were replacing igbos then sure definitely!! I'll welcome that. |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by cjrane: 6:31am On Aug 01, 2013 |
99cent: Everyday in the news a Nigerian with Igbo sounding name is arrested, deported or killed in South Africa. What do you think will happen if SA starts to recognize Nigerian contribution to its economy and starts treating us with more respect and tender loving care that we deserve? Pick one: [size=30pt]One day Nigeria will finally breakup so that Yoruba people will finally quit their Igbo addiction and leave Igbo people alone. Yoruba people simply stay alive to be creating problems around the world and dragging the name Igbo in it.Some really devilish people men![/size] |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 6:34am On Aug 01, 2013 |
cjrane: you clearly don't want to be left alone. Your attention seeking antics make it known that you love to be the center of attention. we are giving you the attention. now revel in it. 50font isn't big enough. use 100font next time. cheap attention seeker! when you are ignored for a minute, you start throwing tantrums. why is that? https://www.nairaland.com/1373338/state-govt-ignores-igbos-does also, why "one day"? why not now? Why aren't igbo people voting MASSOB members to office in state government level? |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by raytony: 6:37am On Aug 01, 2013 |
Baffled by the importance being attached to the igbos and the economy. The other day it was Governor Suswam saying something else, now them don carry am go a whole country. Ah ah, make we dey talk true small small now. |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by kettykin: 6:41am On Aug 01, 2013 |
99cent: Even igbos would support this , but first fix the constitution to allow this , it is funny the same yorubas who are today blaming igbos for coming to live and do business in Lagos ( whose status as the former capital of Nigeria has conferred on it undue and enormous advantages over other states of the Federation which includes hosting the Oil companies headquarters with its huge income taxes going to Lagos against the norm obtainable in other oil producing countries of the world, The Telecommunication industry headquarters, the Banking industry headquarters and the only 3 Deep sea ports (Apapa, warf,Tincan ports) serving a country of 160 Million people against the Norm of having it spread across the coastal states for scalabilty and redundancy) are the same folks who vehemently opposed the Aburi Accord and encouraged Gowon to do the same and went to every lenght stop Biafrans from leaving the Lagos for them. The questions from the above are Why is it just taking yorubas 47 years to realize that they need no igbos in their Region. What is stopping these yoruba people from dusting Aburi Accord or a similar Accord and fighting for its implementation. What chances do these yoruba people have of stopping igbos without due recourse to Aburi or constitutional review http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/lets-return-to-aburi-accord-adeniyi/
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Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 6:42am On Aug 01, 2013 |
kettykin: clearly not. else they won't be complaining about fashola "deporting" them. or complaining about being deported from South Africa and other foreign Africa countries |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by kettykin: 6:44am On Aug 01, 2013 |
99cent: The questions are Why is it just taking yorubas 47 years to realize that they need no igbos in their Region. What is stopping these yoruba people from dusting Aburi Accord or a similar Accord and fighting for its implementation. What chances do these yoruba people have of stopping igbos without due recourse to Aburi or constitutional review |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 6:46am On Aug 01, 2013 |
Why is it just taking yorubas 47 years to realize that they need no igbos in their Region. yorubas have never once begged any igbo to come to our region. igbos come on their own accord. heck they will come even if we start throwing bombs at them. look at the north. despite boko haram, igbos are still flocking there all people are welcome in yorubaland. just that they need to know their place |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 6:48am On Aug 01, 2013 |
kettykin: Fashola will fight for state power to deport non-lagosians i'm sure. That's something that could be implemented to stem the flood of immigrants. I will be happy for such a clause to be written in the constitution. Let igbos states also feel free to deport its non-indegenes if it wishes. http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news-metro/128410-fasholas-aide-defends-deportation-of-67-to-anambra |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by Nomski0(f): 6:59am On Aug 01, 2013 |
Still dont know when this biafra mentality will be erased from our igbo brothers. One legacy that the late Ojukwu left behind that i dont appreciate is this Biafra mentality......that man single handly divided this country, even if we're still one(for now)Nigeria is definately 3 in one country. |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by kettykin: 7:00am On Aug 01, 2013 |
99cent: Deporting non Lagosians and igbos and still be in the same country with them does not solve your problem it only solves a problem and creates another because you will still meet them in Abuja and other friendlier cities , but pushing for a break up or confederation solves your issues with no consequences |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by kettykin: 7:04am On Aug 01, 2013 |
Nomski0: Still dont know when this biafra mentality will be erased from our igbo brothers. One legacy that the late Ojukwu left behind that i dont appreciate is this Biafra mentality......that man single handly divided this country, even if we're still one(for now)Nigeria is definately 3 in one country. Biafra came as a result of the pogrom , deal with the pogrom going on in the North and there will be no Biafra. Just this Monday more than 50 people were killed in the bomb blast and that is not your head ache , but Biafra which ordinary should not be an issue is troubling you , by 2014 Britain will experience a dealmagamtion as Scotland leave , but The brits are not loosing sleep over that . |
Re: South Africa's Economy At Risk For Ignoring And Persecuting Igbos by 99cent: 7:21am On Aug 01, 2013 |
kettykin: break-up isn't necessarily a big deal for yorubas. if igbos want it, good for them, they should push for it. they haven't so clearly they don't want to break up either. only making mouth and looking for attention as usual. you are the one shouting aburi accord up and down. isn't it the regional power that is the main purpose? if states can have that same power then what's the difference? we can have the benefit of being under one country (mostly global/international benefit) yet the autonomy of being independent states. what do u mean by "meet them in Abuja"? how does that concern lagos if igbos are in abuja? LOL and who says that abuja wouldn't put up restrictions if it feels that too many igbos are populating its state? |
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