position of the detection suite/trawl/mine plough is determined by operational requirements based on operational experience etc , equipments in concern and the carrier vehicle selected for installation.

i dont think this particular "positional" factor reflects poorly on any of the systems in question.

denel took a unconventional approach which is well and good, as it is based on their requirements / operational experience but IMO this was significantly also influenced by the selection/use of draw mat , a draw mat will be easily towed from the rear and from the flanks, but not possible (kind of inconvenient) to use it in the front.

the important thing is that the denel solution or the nigerian solution or any other countries systems should do the job they r meant to do , if that is done satisfactorily then everybody concerned would be happy with their individual choice.

dont see any issue to go loggerheads

tdayof:



From Denel: The rear-mounted detection suite is motivated by operational
experience proving the inefficiency of any forward mounting
of the sensors. The MPV protects the crew against any injury/
death in the event of a mine blast – and any damage to the
vehicle can be quickly/economically repaired

And?

Troop101:
http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/trump-to-sell-attack-planes-to-nigeria-for-boko-haram-fight-20170410

The arrangement will call for Nigeria to purchase up to 12 Embraer A-29 Super Tucano aircraft with sophisticated targeting gear for nearly $600 million

Unit cost: $9–14 million How come we are paying 600M for 12 and whatever rubbish gear

tdayof:






Unit cost: $9–14 million How come we are paying 600M for 12 and whatever rubbish gear

50M each ? What is that i like the fact we are acquiring A29 but 600M for 12 COIN aircraft haba.... There is AESA radar on it or what ?

tdayof:






Unit cost: $9–14 million How come we are paying 600M for 12 and whatever rubbish gear

IMO it is total life cycle cost spread over the operational life of the aircraft , including MLUs , spares , periodic maintenance and related infra, plus the cost of the aircraft's themselves.

actually this way it turns out cheap

u guys r confusing it with grocery shopping
(i am sorry but i could not resist the pun)

nemesis2u:


IMO it is total life cycle cost spread over the operational life of the aircraft , including MLUs , spares , periodic maintenance and related infra.

actually this way it turns out cheap ,

Better then. henry240, are these ones coming from US new?

nemesis2u:


IMO it is total life cycle cost spread over the operational life of the aircraft , including MLUs , spares , periodic maintenance and related infra.

actually this way it turns out cheap

u guys r confusing it with grocery shopping
(i am sorry but i could not resist the pun)

Okey......

tdayof:
Better then. henry240, are these ones coming from US new?

Yes, the ones coming from the US would be new, the ones from Brazil would be used aircrafts. It's an Okay deal, although that 600 million is too much. Yes, I know it is life cycle which includes ammunitions, training and spares, but it still has to come down to 400 - 450 million.

US banks are supposed to finance the deal, hence we've been very patient.

The Tucano is the sort of Aircraft we need to prosecute our insurgency, the stats prove this, however it is my opinion that the JF-17s are delivered first, so we know were we are.

Troop101:
http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/trump-to-sell-attack-planes-to-nigeria-for-boko-haram-fight-20170410

Nice 1 but it's still in progress.

Henry240:


Yes, the ones coming from the US would be new, the ones from Brazil would be used aircrafts. It's an Okay deal, although that 600 million is too much. Yes, I know it is life cycle which includes ammunitions, training and spares, but it still has to come down to 400 - 450 million.

US banks are supposed to finance the deal, hence we've been very patient.

The Tucano is the sort of Aircraft we need to prosecute our insurgency, the stats prove this, however it is my opinion that the JF-17s are delivered first, so we know were we are.

Mmmm so 50mil for a Gripen doesn't seem all that much all of a sudden

Guess whos back!!

Image: Doug Drysdale

Henry240:


Yes, the ones coming from the US would be new, the ones from Brazil would be used aircrafts. It's an Okay deal, although that 600 million is too much. Yes, I know it is life cycle which includes ammunitions, training and spares, but it still has to come down to 400 - 450 million.

US banks are supposed to finance the deal, hence we've been very patient.

The Tucano is the sort of Aircraft we need to prosecute our insurgency, the stats prove this, however it is my opinion that the JF-17s are delivered first, so we know were we are.

Even though it is a light aircraft and carries lighter weapons load, the technology onboard the Super Tucano is way above A10 Warthog and SU 25.
It is also fully net centric (although I have issue with that and it's implications for national security). It is a cheap to operate and advanced suite of capabilities not just airfraft that we are getting.
Nigeria needs 100 of these planes so we can secure all borders, track Boko Haram, track herdsmen , monitor intending pirates and oil thieves and provide quick reaction for disaster relief

If it is being financed by US banks then you have your answer why it is $600million

Henry240:

#basedonlogistics
House member.

na im de con give am camo
excuse me let me puke first

jln115:

Mmmm so 50mil for a Gripen doesn't seem all that much all of a sudden

flyaway cost or what

Adminisher:


Even though it is a light aircraft and carries lighter weapons load, the technology onboard the Super Tucano is way above A10 Warthog and SU 25.
It is also fully net centric (although I have issue with that and it's implications for national security). It is a cheap to operate and advanced suite of capabilities not just airfraft that we are getting.
Nigeria needs 100 of these planes so we can secure all borders, track Boko Haram, track herdsmen , monitor intending pirates and oil thieves and provide quick reaction for disaster relief

If it is being financed by US banks then you have your answer why it is $600million

yes of course ..in fact the whole 2018-2019 budget shld b dedicated to buying the A29 because it hunts everything you mentioned and runaway demons too

Odunayaw:
yes of course ..in fact the whole 2018-2019 budget shld b dedicated to buying the A29 because it hunts everything you mentioned and runaway demons too

Haba 100 fun Kini?

tdayof:
Haba 100 fun Kini?

u sef de see am ba?

Cameroon

Adminisher:


Even though it is a light aircraft and carries lighter weapons load, the technology onboard the Super Tucano is way above A10 Warthog and SU 25.
It is also fully net centric (although I have issue with that and it's implications for national security). It is a cheap to operate and advanced suite of capabilities not just airfraft that we are getting.
Nigeria needs 100 of these planes so we can secure all borders, track Boko Haram, track herdsmen , monitor intending pirates and oil thieves and provide quick reaction for disaster relief

If it is being financed by US banks then you have your answer why it is $600million

The news if true will be welcome news to an Embattled Trump Presidency wobbling to get back on track, it will burnish his Anti- terrorists credentials,
there is a note of caution about the news, at no time during the last days of the OBAMA administration did they intend to sell the A-29S to Nigeria, the Bombing at Raqqa even to the most jaundiced eye and enemy of the Nigerian Airforce was a tragic mistake based on wrong coordinates taking nothing away from that it has happened with the two most sophisticated Air forces in the world namely the U.S. and Russia.
A word of caution :
Expect Ammnesty International to scream to the highest level and to reach a fever pitch
The cautious good news:
The deal will go through if Sen .John Mc. Cain and Sen Corker approve they are the two most powerful republicans who have virtually power over this deal, they will be the ones to brush aside the Leahy act,
Cost:
The Cost is going to be high because all the Nigerian Pilots will be expected to receive their training from scratch in the States, it is also possible maybe NEMESIS can expand on this that certain communication equipment within the NAF that is compatible i.e. American made the Beechcraft NAF 201,202, & 203 will need to be up graded.
Conclusion.
The deal if finally approved will take time .Mr HENRY is right though expect the JF-17s first the A-29S second.

LTGEN:

The news if true will be welcome news to an Embattled Trump Presidency wobbling to get back on track, it will burnish his Anti- terrorists credentials,
there is a note of caution about the news, at no time during the last days of the OBAMA administration did they intend to sell the A-29S to Nigeria, the Bombing at Raqqa even to the most jaundiced eye and enemy of the Nigerian Airforce was a tragic mistake based on wrong coordinates taking nothing away from that it has happened with the two most sophisticated Air forces in the world namely the U.S. and Russia.
A word of caution :
Expect Ammnesty International to scream to the highest level and to reach a fever pitch
The cautious good news:
The deal will go through if Sen .John Mc. Cain and Sen Corker approve they are the two most powerful republicans who have virtually power over this deal, they will be the ones to brush aside the Leahy act,
Cost:
The Cost is going to be high because all the Nigerian Pilots will be expected to receive their training from scratch in the States, it is also possible maybe NEMESIS can expand on this that certain communication equipment within the NAF that is compatible i.e. American made the Beechcraft NAF 201,202, & 203 will need to be up graded.
Conclusion.
The deal if finally approved will take time .Mr HENRY is right though expect the JF-17s first the A-29S second.

We have pilots on training in US already. I guess they are training on similar platform. There is this particular NAF guy that flew a USAF F-5.

LTGEN:

The news if true will be welcome news to an Embattled Trump Presidency wobbling to get back on track, it will burnish his Anti- terrorists credentials,
there is a note of caution about the news, at no time during the last days of the OBAMA administration did they intend to sell the A-29S to Nigeria, the Bombing at Raqqa even to the most jaundiced eye and enemy of the Nigerian Airforce was a tragic mistake based on wrong coordinates taking nothing away from that it has happened with the two most sophisticated Air forces in the world namely the U.S. and Russia.

There was Bro. I could remember vividly that it was in the news then.
http://m.amsterdamnews.com/news/2016/nov/23/obama-urged-squash-sale-attack-aircraft-nigeria/

Henry240:


Yes, the ones coming from the US would be new, the ones from Brazil would be used aircrafts. It's an Okay deal, although that 600 million is too much. Yes, I know it is life cycle which includes ammunitions, training and spares, but it still has to come down to 400 - 450 million.

US banks are supposed to finance the deal, hence we've been very patient.

The Tucano is the sort of Aircraft we need to prosecute our insurgency, the stats prove this, however it is my opinion that the JF-17s are delivered first, so we know were we are.

have never seen corruption like dis b4.
just imagine buying a propeller aircraft for dis price is unbelievable.
the Ghanaians and other African countries who alsoaquired dis aircraft will be asking if it is the same aircraft they bought.


$600m=20 jf17blk 3 + other side deals
or 15jf17 + 10 A29 + other side deal.
or 15 j10 +other side deals.


if na play make MoD, Nigeria, CaS and other better mind una self

giles14:
have never seen corruption like dis b4.
just imagine buying a propeller aircraft for dis price is unbelievable.
the Ghanaians and other African countries who alsoaquired dis aircraft will be asking if it is the same aircraft they bought.


$600m=20 jf17blk 3 + other side deals
or 15jf17 + 10 A29 + other side deal.
or 15 j10 +other side deals.


if na play make MoD, Nigeria, CaS and other better mind una self

I too think the figure is quite high, however you have to consider that the figure is for 30 years, the entire life cycle of the aircrafts, training, spare parts and ammunitions it isn't a "one off payment". Na small small.

We would have to see how it goes.

... But anyway, it's not like the deal has been signed though.

Odunayaw:
yes of course ..in fact the whole 2018-2019 budget shld b dedicated to buying the A29 because it hunts everything you mentioned and runaway demons too

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Henry240:


I too think the figure is quite high, however you have to consider that the figure is for 30 years, the entire life cycle of the aircrafts, training, spare parts and ammunitions it isn't a "one off payment". Na small small.

We would have to see how it goes.

... But anyway, it's not like the deal has been signed though.

am really surprise u see dis as normal. even with the training spare parts and ammunition. it is not suppose to go above the $200mln mark.
this is very b
this is pure corruption.
so if we are to buy 12 f16 or f18 we will b paying close to $4bln

Sudan and Saudi Arabia joint military exercise. #
BlueShield

Pic 1: Sudan mig29s and Su25s
Pic 2: Saudi typhoon and Sudani mig29
Pic 3: Sudani su25 and mig29




Saudi deployed 4 F15C and 4 EF Typhoon jets. Sudan deployed SU 25s, SU 24s, Mig29s and some Mil-17 helicopters.


#BlueShield is the first exercise in which #RSAF pilots get to fly against all eastern-equipped AF & same case for the #Sudan

#BlueShield Continued.

RANDOM

Egypt took delivery of another 3 Rafale jets last Tuesday, bringing total delivery to 9 Aircrafts out of 24 Rafales.

Ghana paid $88 million for 5 Super Tucanos which includes logistics support and a training system for pilots and mechanics in Ghana.

So theoretically they would have paid +/- $211 million for 12 Tucanos with all that's mentioned.

giles14:
am really surprise u see dis as normal. even with the training spare parts and ammunition. it is not suppose to go above the $200mln mark.
this is very b
this is pure corruption.
so if we are to buy 12 f16 or f18 we will b paying close to $4bln

you type this because you have access to so much information?

Anyway me sef no like wetin I de smell and see