africaken:
someone kill's your soldier and you dont want to hurt him!,thats a first.

Spoken like an internet warrior. You do realise the military is just one out of many tools to practise statecraft, right?

Henry120:
Nigerian Airforce Heavy lift

- C-130H

Henry, does Nigerian Airforce doctrine classify the C-130 as heavy lift?

frumentius:


People laugh at the Congolese, Rwandans and Ugandans for their gumboots, until they experience the mud. A weapons cache was discovered in a jungle clearing and an EOD team sent out. Simple, right? The skies opened up and wouldn't let up. What had been a few hours work turned into a muddy week-long mission, with a full company sent to protect the EOD lads and secure the perimeter.

even the colombia rebel group FARC, i have seen them wearing them in the jungles of colombia.

africaken:
someone kill's your soldier and you dont want to hurt him!,thats a first.

Strategic vs tactical.

frumentius:

Henry, does Nigerian Airforce doctrine classify the C-130 as heavy lift?

Nigeria has 2 variants of the C-130 in service. The stretch(H) variant and standard variant. The stretch is classified as heavy lift, while the standard and G222's are considered medium.

Nigerian Airforce

sudan airforce MIG-29 being loaded to a AN-124 en route to sudan

MikeCZAR:
Strategic vs tactical.

wise decision that's chad's sphere of influence

sudan airforce SU-25

frumentius:
Various SANDF, DRC:

waiting, waiting and the egg-beaters finally arrive!

new jungle boots?

Henry120:


Have you seen AN-70? That bird is just perfect. A direct rival to A400m and the C-130J.

How i wish Nigeria could just order 5 examples of AN-70.

The image was taken in 2008, i believe they are Ukrainian.

for once you are right, AN-70 is cheaper, slings more cargo and has a longer range

But apart from raw stats, the A400M has an advantage in "hidden" benefits - for example each A400M comes with tanker capabilities, fy-by-wire, threat warning, EW capabilities and despite the smaller load capacity, its internal volume is massive - you can fit a Paladin SPG inside of one

And the maintenance abilities are utterly astounding- 15 days flying with ZERO maintenance, 150 days without scheduled maintenance (stuff that will require it to be grounded) and only 84 days of scheduled maintenance for every 12 years of flying (meaning that over a 12 year period, your A400M will be grounded only 0.019% of the time)

You must admit that those are stunningly impressive stats

Thats the edge that the A400M has.

BUUT

Birds of this size are under-utilized.

The USAF did a study that found that even their smaller C-130's were on average 40% underutilized for their operations (only 60% of its capacity for cargo was used) - or something like that (i remember only bits and pieces from something I read a very long time ago)

Nigeria and South Africa should both rather focus on building decent light lift capacity before it even considers medium and semi-strategic lift.

Both countries would profit more in terms of improved capabilities from a fleet of 10 or so C-27J's/G.222, CASA C-295 or An-32's than they would from a handfull of A400m's or AN-70's in the dedicated transport role

africaken:
if you dont flex your muscles nobody is going to take you seriously

Tell that to Germany, Spain, Italy, Korea, Japan, Brazil, Finland, Mexico etc etc etc

patches689:


Tell that to Germany, Spain, Italy, Korea, Japan, Brazil, Finland, Mexico etc etc etc

whats your point ?

Tanzanian Special forces soldier is this year's cover of UNPKO magazine

Nigerian Air Force C-130

patches689:


for once you are right, AN-70 is cheaper, slings more cargo and has a longer range

But apart from raw stats, the A400M has an advantage in "hidden" benefits - for example each A400M comes with tanker capabilities, fy-by-wire, threat warning, EW capabilities and despite the smaller load capacity, its internal volume is massive - you can fit a Paladin SPG inside of one

And the maintenance abilities are utterly astounding- 15 days flying with ZERO maintenance, 150 days without scheduled maintenance (stuff that will require it to be grounded) and only 84 days of scheduled maintenance for every 12 years of flying (meaning that over a 12 year period, your A400M will be grounded only 0.019% of the time)

You must admit that those are stunningly impressive stats

Thats the edge that the A400M has.

BUUT

Birds of this size are under-utilized.

The USAF did a study that found that even their smaller C-130's were on average 40% underutilized for their operations (only 60% of its capacity for cargo was used) - or something like that (i remember only bits and pieces from something I read a very long time ago)

Nigeria and South Africa should both rather focus on building decent light lift capacity before it even considers medium and semi-strategic lift.

Both countries would profit more in terms of improved capabilities from a fleet of 10 or so C-27J's/G.222, CASA C-295 or An-32's than they would from a handfull of A400m's or AN-70's in the dedicated transport role

Mumu, i'm always right !!

The AN-70 is a much better plane than the C-130J, has many advantages over the A-400m, however the problem with the AN-70 is, with the crisis in the Donbass, the future of the AN-70 is looking very bleak.


Asides the E.W capabilities of the A-400m as you claim, it's ease of maintenance, i see no other advantage it has over the AN-70, as those extra capabilities can easily be retro-fitted in the AN-70.

I differ, the G-222 and much larger C-130's have various roles they carry out in the military. They are important lift capabilities a large military must have in service to be truly effective. In an emergency I would need my C-130's to be available to deploy men and resources in real-time.

A fleet of 10 G-222's or casa's is like having only 30 A109's in service. In peace time they are okay, but in an emergency were considerable supplies are required, they are totally useless.

africaken:
wise decision that's chad's sphere of influence

where?

Amisom

MikeCZAR:
where?

CAR

amison uganda troops Looking for Alshabaab hiding in the flooded swamps of Johwah in North West Mogadishu

uganda special forces in somalia

africaken:
CAR

And?

.
4 units of Israeli, French, or Chinese small missile armed boats for Nigerian navy 2016. Confirmed order.

Might carry Barak-8 missiles, Gabriel III missiles, C-704, or C-705 missiles.

The Barak-8 missile offers space saving on deck with vertical launchers.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38643:african-customer-orders-four-super-dvora-mk-3-boats-from-israel&catid=51:Sea
.

sudan army

MikeCZAR:
And?

busy with something else,will discuss later

agaugust:
.
4 units of Israeli, Dutch, or Chinese small missile armed boats for Nigerian navy 2016. Confirmed order.

Might carry Barak-8 missiles, Gabriel III missiles, C-704, or C-705 missiles.

The Barak-8 missile offers space saving on deck with vertical launchers.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38643:african-customer-orders-four-super-dvora-mk-3-boats-from-israel&catid=51:Sea
.

Uhm...your source says African customer not Nigerian Navy, it would be advised to wait until clarification before publicly proclaiming that the NN have ordered these boats!

Honourary

Africa's largest military ship. Algeria's LPD (amphibious transport dock)

Flagship of the Algerian Navy, kalaat Béni Abbès LPD

The vessel was ordered in 2011 and she's based on an updated and larger San Giorgio LPD, it displaces 8,800 tons at full load, she's 149.2 m long and 21.5 m in beam, the vessel's stern dock can carry three 19.5m LCM

When not loaded with armoured vehicles the hangar can be used to house up to 5 helicopters.

jln115:

Uhm...your source says African customer not Nigerian Navy, it would be advised to wait until clarification before publicly proclaiming that the NN have ordered these boats!

My real source is NOT defenceweb, I just used that to show it may be Israeli boats. I said missile boats from 3 likely countries not just Israel.

It's a confirmed order, 4 missile armed small boats for Nigerian navy 2016.

Order is firmly confirmed.

Henry120:
Honourary

Africa's largest military ship. Algeria's LPD (amphibious transport dock)

Flagship of the Algerian Navy, kalaat Béni Abbès LPD

The vessel was ordered in 2011 and she's based on an updated and larger San Giorgio LPD, it displaces 8,800 tons at full load, she's 149.2 m long and 21.5 m in beam, the vessel's stern dock can carry three 19.5m LCM

When not loaded with armoured vehicles the hangar can be used to house up to 5 helicopters.

Money speaking.

Algeria has the best equipped and most modern military in Africa.

I guess even France cannot defeat Algeria in conventional war.

agaugust:


My real source is NOT defenceweb, I just used that to show it may be Israeli boats. I said missile boats from 3 likely countries not just Israel.

It's a confirmed order, 4 missile armed small boats for Nigerian navy 2016.

Order is firmly confirmed.

Ok Bro if you say so.

Henry120:


Mumu, i'm always right !!

The AN-70 is a much better plane than the C-130J, has many advantages over the A-400m, however the problem with the AN-70 is, with the crisis in the Donbass, the future of the AN-70 is looking very bleak.


Asides the E.W capabilities of the A-400m as you claim, it's ease of maintenance, i see no other advantage it has over the AN-70, as those extra capabilities can easily be retro-fitted in the AN-70.

I differ, the G-222 and much larger C-130's have various roles they carry out in the military. They are important lift capabilities a large military must have in service to be truly effective. In an emergency I would need my C-130's to be available to deploy men and resources in real-time.

A fleet of 10 G-222's or casa's is like having only 30 A109's in service. In peace time they are okay, but in an emergency were considerable supplies are required, they are totally useless.

Like i said, the A400Ms advantage comes in ease of service - 99.9% servicibility over 12 years is unheard of.

Like I said, the US who is at war, found that their c-130's were 40% under-utilized in operations. Hence why they are looking for a small transport platform to improve efficiency

And the A109 has many military applications - a highly mobile and fast light helo will allways have a role in the military

agaugust:


My real source is NOT defenceweb, I just used that to show it may be Israeli boats. I said missile boats from 3 likely countries not just Israel.

It's a confirmed order, 4 missile armed small boats for Nigerian navy 2016.

Order is firmly confirmed.

Whats your source?