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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by AskiaHarem(m): 3:30am On Sep 30, 2019
nemesis8u:
Taiwanese suicide drones

But can they swarm an area lock-on and dive bomb like LOCUST from hell?

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:39am On Sep 30, 2019
AskiaHarem:


But can they swarm an area lock-on and dive bomb like LOCUST from hell?

The drones in the pic don't have EO sensors

They most probably have passive homing seekers tuned to seek out certain specific frequency bands eg from radars etc also some might have MMW seekers to find and locate targets and engage them irrespective of emitter signals from hostiles.

Either way

If the drones have AI based inter networking and autonomous decision making capabilities built in them , then all drones will share target localisation and target data amongst themselves and based on pre-programmed threat library, assign targets amongst themselves , sometimes depending on threat perception as per pre fed data, prioritise multiple drones on a single target or even conduct BDA to detect any surviving hostiles and then engage them again and again if required.

What u asked if I understood correctly is can drones swarm attack a particular geographical area simultaneously ?

If yes

Then that is possible from these types of drones also, provided they have EO sensors for man in the loop mode or TERCOM / DSMAC etc sensors for autonomous mode with relevant AI based capabilities.

Possibilities r endless can't confine them in few lines of words

U can read my post on swarming tech used in Soviet era P-700 / 3K45 Granit / SS-N-19 Shipwreck AShM.

It is explained simple enough to give a better understanding of basic swarming if u want.

https://www.nairaland.com/3220297/technical-discussions-international-military-equipments/207#58658849

Ok my turn to ask question to u

where is the location of hell ?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nicheey(m): 1:53pm On Sep 30, 2019
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 6:23pm On Sep 30, 2019
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kenpaul0: 9:32pm On Sep 30, 2019
Haramite...silence is the best answer to a .....
AskiaHarem:


You are not Nigerian or your a biafruadian Pseudo Jew with a mental deficiency. Keep your delusions to yourself.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kenpaul0: 9:34pm On Sep 30, 2019
See human beings talking!!!

pacretus:
what you are doing now, is what we did few years back. Trying to defend a "lame" nation, of which IMHO, its blind patriotism. We have wicked leaders who are feeding fat on our taxes, prolonging the war and becoming clueless along side their corruption. A fucking general as President who doesn't know how to organise the security of the Nation.

Tell me haven't we seen the worst. If under a former military leader and a general, the Nigerian military can be this disoriented and weak, what do you expect from a civilian. Abeg just leave this thread to continue resting because all sub Saharan African militaries are worst now than when the thread was on fire.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:54pm On Sep 30, 2019
Algerian navy exercise this days ,Kalibr cruse missile launched from kilo 636 M submarines to a ground target at 290 km


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41F3Gvh50E0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDiJLgYG8aM

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:13am On Oct 01, 2019
kabe1:

Please what is the difference between an MRAP and an APC.

The Nigerian army looks very well equipped, but why are we struggling with this Insurgency?

I know it's not really easy, but soldiers always complain a lot. Why is that?


As far as I know a MRAP is a light tactical vehicle used for such things as patrols in troubled areas. Even the police use them. APCs on the other hand are more hardcore, next thing to the MBTs and their primary role is safe transfer of troops into and out of battles. The shape itself can tell, where MRAPs usually have a more traditional van look while APCs look more like tanks.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:21am On Oct 01, 2019
jln115:
not all APC are MRAPs but all MRAPs are APCs

Are there any APCs that can be considered MRAPs? Example?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 10:23am On Oct 01, 2019
TayserMahri:


As far as I know a MRAP is a light tactical vehicle used for such things as patrols in troubled areas. Even the police use them. APCs on the other hand are more hardcore, next thing to the MBTs and their primary role is safe transfer of troops into and out of battles. The shape itself can tell, where MRAPs usually have a more traditional van look while APCs look more like tanks.
Ah shocked

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:40am On Oct 01, 2019
mtisTheQubit:

That was hot fusion not cold fusion...cold fusion occurs at a room temperature..(for me waiting for ths.. grin orthe ZPMs from stargate grin grin)
anyway we got agree corporates are becoming powerful every day..look at google it able to alter the perception of stuff..Google can dictate what we read based on their search..it can intentionally affect elections without knowing..look how we are dependent on its services..mail,maps,droid grin an stuff...Their AI (deep mind) is currently on another level..Google being accused by some American(gop tards) of treason for working with China on AI stuff...

Look every scifi movie grin i watch ends with two scenarios
1.The rise of machines
2.The rise of Corporations
ok the third is apocalypse world grin

What we used to call scifi years back is now a reality..Think about that

show off grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:45am On Oct 01, 2019
TayserMahri:


As far as I know a MRAP is a light tactical vehicle used for such things as patrols in troubled areas. Even the police use them. APCs on the other hand are more hardcore, next thing to the MBTs and their primary role is safe transfer of troops into and out of battles. The shape itself can tell, where MRAPs usually have a more traditional van look while APCs look more like tanks.
A MRAP is simply an apc which is protected against mines.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 10:48am On Oct 01, 2019
jln115:
A MRAP is simply an apc which is protected against mines.

Correct

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:54am On Oct 01, 2019
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:55am On Oct 01, 2019
TayserMahri:


Are there any APCs that can be considered MRAPs? Example?
MRAP(Mine resistant ambush-protected) thus a mrap is just an apc which is protected against mines.

The designation MRAP is a relatively new term which was coined by the US in die mid 2000s.

South Africa have been building MRAPs since the 60s yet simply called them mine protected armoured personnel carriers(apc)

Examples:

RG31
Casspir
Mamba
Buffel
Marauder

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:58am On Oct 01, 2019
TayserMahri:


Are there any APCs that can be considered MRAPs? Example?
just to clarify, about 90 % of modern day APCs are also MRAPs....... With the exception of a few heavy tracked APCs.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:59am On Oct 01, 2019
TayserMahri:


As far as I know a MRAP is a light tactical vehicle used for such things as patrols in troubled areas. Even the police use them. APCs on the other hand are more hardcore, next thing to the MBTs and their primary role is safe transfer of troops into and out of battles. The shape itself can tell, where MRAPs usually have a more traditional van look while APCs look more like tanks.
I also think you might be confusing IFVs with APCs

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:01am On Oct 01, 2019
jln115:
MRAP(Mine resistant ambush-protected) thus a mrap is just an apc which is protected against mines.

The designation MRAP is a relatively new term which was coined by the US in die mid 2000s.

South Africa have been building MRAPs since the 60s yet simply called them mine protected armoured personnel carriers(apc)

Examples:

RG31
Casspir
Mamba
Buffel
Marauder


I see. The theatre of warfare has been constantly changing over the years leading to many changes in quality and role of equipment and the names thereof. E.g frigate vs destroyer confusion was also similar to MRAP vs APC.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:06am On Oct 01, 2019
jln115:
just to clarify, about 90 % of modern day APCs are also MRAPs....... With the exception of a few heavy tracked APCs.

You just made it worse! You are absolutely wrong.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:09am On Oct 01, 2019
jln115:
I also think you might be confusing IFVs with APCs

No. IFVs provide direct fire support, ie. they stick to the battleground, while APCs do not. Im not confusing the two.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:12am On Oct 01, 2019
TayserMahri:


I see. The theatre of warfare has been constantly changing over the years leading to many changes in quality and role of equipment and the names thereof. E.g frigate vs destroyer confusion was also similar to MRAP vs APC.
Their is still a clear difference between a frigate and a destroyer though.... Except one is becoming obsolete

But a MRAP will always be an APC.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:14am On Oct 01, 2019
TayserMahri:


No. IFVs provide direct fire support, ie. they stick to the battleground, while APCs do not. Im not confusing the two.
What about APCs that are armed with 20mm cannons, they also stick to the battlefield.

APCs with big guns like a heavy machine guns also stick to the battlefield.

I don't quite understand why you think an APC cannot provide support for infantry soldiers.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:14am On Oct 01, 2019
TayserMahri:


No. IFVs provide direct fire support, ie. they stick to the battleground, while APCs do not. Im not confusing the two.
you said APCs are next thing to the tanks bro!!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:15am On Oct 01, 2019
kabe1:

What about APCs that are armed with 20mm cannons, they also stick to the battlefield.

APCs with big guns like a heavy machine guns also stick to the battlefield.

I don't quite understand why you think an APC cannot provide support for infantry soldiers.
Then they are IFVs not APCs, its about the role.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:16am On Oct 01, 2019
jln115:

Their is still a clear difference between a frigate and a destroyer though.... Except one is becoming obsolete

But a MRAP will always be an APC.
Only small countries buy Frigates alone. Big countries with Oceangoing fleets still build destroyers.

USA, Russia, China, Japan , Britain etc.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:16am On Oct 01, 2019
jln115:

Then they are IFVs not APCs
I don't understand?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:17am On Oct 01, 2019
kabe1:

I don't understand?
it's about the role of the vehicle....you can have an APC and an IFV based on the same platform but have different roles.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:20am On Oct 01, 2019
jln115:
just to clarify, about 90 % of modern day APCs are also MRAPs....... With the exception of a few heavy tracked APCs.
I agree with this in a way, although they are no longer designated as just MRAPs. They have a new name, like that Nigerian Ezugwu vehicle is not really an MRAP.

The vehicle Australia recently bought also can protect against mines, but it is not an MRAP.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:20am On Oct 01, 2019
TayserMahri:


You just made it worse! You are absolutely wrong.
meant to say wheeled APCs..... My bad!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:23am On Oct 01, 2019
jln115:

Their is still a clear difference between a frigate and a destroyer though.... Except one is becoming obsolete


Some armies use them interchangeably. Read about their respective histories.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:23am On Oct 01, 2019
jln115:
it's about the role of the vehicle....you can have an APC and an IFV based on the same platform but have different roles.
So you mean if I have a big gun on a vehicle like Proforce MRAP, it is no longer an MRAP?

What about the design?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:24am On Oct 01, 2019
kabe1:

I agree with this in a way, although they are no longer designated as just MRAPs. They have a new name, like that Nigerian Ezugwu vehicle is not really an MRAP.

The vehicle Australia recently bought also can protect against mines, but it is not an MRAP.
MRAP is just a designation used by some manufacturers and not by others.

By definition the Casspir is a MRAP but Denel simply states that its a mine protected APC.

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