Covert1:
Nigerian Air Force JF-17 THUNDER Fighter Jet

Beautiful Jet Soon To Roast Its Enemies

The enemy would not even know what hit him

This jet might be used against Nigerians. With the way this country is going.

jteku:
Nimasa AW109 lands takeoff from a community I believe in the south south part of Nigeria, But our naive nigerians are wailing on social media that the government are dropping arms for bandits ���

https://www.facebook.com/100054234142086/posts/336864478131354/

If you engage your people positively they will never think you are using helicopter to drop arms against them. Nigerians are not Naive, all over the world Nigerians are seen as great people. If they think you are dropping arms against them, then there must be a reason why these sets of intelligent people think so. F#ck you for calling Nigerians naive.

lionel4power:


Gucci gears without associated equipment and services like Secure comms (both field, tactical and HQ), Superior training, 24hrs ISR, SIGINT technology, dedicated transport helicopters and aircrafts for rapid infils and exfils, and a robust support infrastructure like logistics, maintenance, K9, medical.


Is just noise before defeat. Just saying.

Shut up and allow them to enjoy their beautiful equipment why are you so f"cking negative.

lionel4power:


This is one topic I try to avoid commenting on because both LNA and GNA are both intertwined in a very complex way.

LNA came out of the Libyan resistance that removed Gadaffi while the GNA made up of militias from various part of the country managed to defeat ISIS while LNA was rearming.

GNA took Tripoli since 2017, LNA tried to overrun it since 2019 without any luck despite several spirited attempts.

GNA made of poorly armed militias gave Haftar a run for his money even with all his backings. Russia even had to send several fighter jets and bombers to help keep him in the war.

GNA fights like jihadists, while LNA tried their best to fight and appear to the international stage as a professional force. That's why you see those Gucci gears in their exercises.

Personally, I'll suggest they both combine

Come now Lionel. Do you think my comment was made in ignorance of all you wrote here?

Lurker4Long:

Come now Lionel. Do you think my comment was made in ignorance of all you wrote here?

I just added my bits to what you posted. I'm neither against nor in support of LNA or GNA.

Salatavor:
Shut up and allow them to enjoy their beautiful equipment why are you so f"cking negative.

Wasn't negativity. If you had calmed down like others, read and comprehended my post well you'll have understood that it clearly not a bant.

Anyway, comprehension is not for everyone

lionel4power:

I just added my bits to what you posted. I'm neither against nor in support of LNA or GNA.

Salatavor:
If you engage your people positively they will never think you are using helicopter to drop arms against them. Nigerians are not Naive, all over the world Nigerians are seen as great people. If they think you are dropping arms against them, then there must be a reason why these sets of intelligent people think so. F#ck you for calling Nigerians naive.

Kindly mind the language you use when addressing others, just post things related to the thread and enjoy your life, i don't know you and you don't know me and you are not more Nigerian than me.

Piece of Advice,

don't take things personal here.

Covert1:


Re.tard

By the way before I put some sense into your empty skull I'll remind you I do so because you are the lowest s.cum of the entire human race

Abhinandan was let go to de-escalate an already tense situation which India too would have done. Pakistan already had the optics of winning the engagement it needed nothing more. Frankly I thought india would take back their pilots and still retaliate oh that's a joke but that's what big powers do to drive home the point. But India didn't because Pakistan would respond and the war would escalate.

You know nothing of International politics to bare indian version of events here with a bold face. To believe such an illusory of the Pakistani Army chief shaking in the legs lol shows exactly the brand of weed that withers your brain. You never heard of black arts.

Pakistan has the nuclear bomb and its Prime Minister is on public saying before Pakistan's retaliation that they had the ultimate weapon and if India so much as threaten Pakistan's existence they would not hesitate to use it. If Pakistan was so afraid of india to shake in the legs it would not so much as lift a finger but it did because it as the levers of military power.

Now run along to mommy. School is over.

You are totally wrong. Pakistan is never willing to confront India in any direct war. While india would be ready to strike pakistan on any slight provocation ,Pakistan is always wary of such cause in an outright face-off without the use of nuclear bombs they would be defeated hands down. and they know this .india as the upper hand in any conflit. and please forget about the J-17 thunder its just an over-hyped jet with little functionality

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxa6CajQz3g

Sundanese soldiers being defeated and captured by Houthis

Nigerian Air Force JF-17 Block 2

Covert1:


I was going to say something about the ASELPOD but refrained from doing so like I do mostly so that they take the bait. People who barely know think they know something so wait for them to copy and paste online content before exposing they are no professionals.

You can imagine someone here full of himself all the time and his ilk liking ignorance all over telling us SA has something we know isn't true.

About the French Rafale the manufacturer makes us believe it is built with materials that gives it near stealth capabilities. It remains to be seen in combat where projections on paper can quickly go awry against a very capable foe.

But the truth also is that J-17 are not tried and tested

Covert1:
TechJuice

TECHNOLOGY

Rafale cannot be compared with JF-17
Thunder according to retired Air Vice Marshal
Shaheryar Ehsan

Written by Shaheryar Ehsan

A former Air Vice Marshal revealed that the Rafale could be compared to the F-16 but it has no one-on-one comparison with the JF-17 Thunder. The revelation comes on the heels of the announcement that Pakistan is entering mass production of the most advanced JF-17 Thunder Block III which has the KLJ-7A AESA radar which can track 15 targets and engage 4 targets simultaneously along with a helmet-mounted display (HMD) and possibly an internal infrared search and tracking (IRST) system.

The debate has intensified after India got the Rafale jets from France recently. However, according to AVM (retd) Shahzad Chaudhry, the real game-changer in the region will be the J-20 stealth fighter. As per his analysis, the only other jet which is capable to go toe-to-toe with the J-20 is the F-35. Any country in the subcontinent who gets either of these first would be able to get air superiority.

In a statement, he said:

For the airspace that we have to defend, F-16s, JF-17s and other platforms emerge in an integrated shape as a formidable force and it was demonstrated in February 2019

The AVM also said that the induction of JF-17 Block II and the mass production of Block III was a significant advancement in the country’s air defence arsenal.

Earlier, the Chinese Ambassador also commented that Pakistan had become self-sufficient in developing JF-17 Thunder:

Pakistan has become self-sufficient in developing JF-17 Thunder and an advance fighter aircraft producing country in the world. JF-17 Thunder has finally become the backbone of Pakistan’s defence. Pakistan and China’s close collaboration will bring more success in the future.

Rafale vs F-16/ JF-17 Thunder vs Chengdu J-20

All three of these aircraft are multi-role fighters, meaning they are made to perform various kinds of operations, including long-range air-to-air and air-to-ground attacks.

While JF-17 is the fourth generation aircraft, Rafale is a 4.5 general "omnirole" fighter aircraft, which allows it to go out on at least four missions in one sortie. China claims J-20 is a 5th generation aircraft.

Both Rafale and JF-17 come in single as well as twin seats. China's J-20, on the other hand, is a single-seat only. India will get 28 single-seat jets and eight twin-seaters fighters from France.

In terms of weight, J-20 weighs 19,000 kg and can carry the weight of up to 37,013 kg. Rafale weighs 9,900 kg-10,600 kg and can carry up to 24,500 kg weight. JF-17 weighs 6,411 kg, with the take-off weight of 12,474 kg. This means both J-20 and Rafale can carry more firepower during their missions.

Rafale is around 15.3 m in length, with a wingspan of 10.9 m and height of 5.3 m. J-20 is up to 20.5 m long, with a wingspan of up to 13.5m. J-17 is 14.93 long, with a wingspan of 9.48 m and 4.77m height.


Rafale attains the top speed of 2,222.6 km per hour, while J-20 and F-17 possess the maximum speeds of 2,400 km per hour and 1,975 kmph, respectively.

Rafale's service ceiling -- crucial during dogfights when pilots want to avoid surface-to-air missiles -- can go up to 50,000 ft, while J-20 and JF-17 have the service ceiling of 65,620 ft and 54,000 ft, respectively.

Rafale can carry most-advanced and lethal weapons available, including air-to-air MCA missile; long-range air-to-air Meteor missiles; and air-to-ground Hammer missile. It can also carry laser-guided bombs with different warheads, and non-guided classic bombs. The scalp long-range missiles loaded in Rafale can hurt deep inside enemy territory.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) recently decided to further boost Rafale's combat capabilities by procuring lethal HAMMER missiles -- a new generation medium-range air-to-ground weapon -- from France. These missiles take out targets in high-altitude areas. Very important for the himalayas

Another major advantage for Rafale is its ability to climb up to 60,000 ft per minute during a dogfight. J-20 can climb up to 59,842.52 ft per minute, while JF-17 has a climbing speed of 59,000 ft per minute.

Another big difference is the battle experience. Rafale is an extremely experienced aircraft, used widely in war missions in Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. The J-20, JF-17 have no such experience.

Dassault Rafale Is Class Apart

IAF has already inducted 11 Rafale jets, and more will join shortly. The first squadron will have its full 18 aircraft by mid-2021 and then the second squadron will start forming. The Rafale is an Omni-role fighter and a battle-proven weapon platform, that has been selected from among the world’s best, after a grueling selection process.

This French twin-engine, canard delta-wing multi-role fighter aircraft built by Dassault Aviation is equipped with the latest avionics and a wide range of weapons. Rafale is intended to perform air supremacy, interdiction, aerial reconnaissance, ground support, deep strikes, anti-shipping operations, and nuclear deterrence missions.

Although not a full-aspect stealth, it is designed with reduced radar crosssection through wing-body shaping and extensive use of composite materials. The glass-cockpit is designed around the principle of data fusion. The primary flight controls are arranged in a hands-on-throttle-and-stick (HOTAS) arrangement.

The direct voice input (DVI) system reduces pilot workload across all operations. The Helmet Mounted Display (HMD) is integrated with weapons. The cockpit is fully compatible with night vision goggles. Rafale has an on-board oxygen generation system that eliminates the need to carry bulky oxygen canisters. The integrated electronic defense suite SPECTRA protects the aircraft against airborne and ground threats and allows independent missions for suppression of enemy air defenses (SEAD).

Rafale’s ground attack capability is heavily reliant upon targeting pods, such as Thales Optronic’s Reco New Generation/Areos reconnaissance pod and Damocles electro-optical/laser designation pod.

The Thales RBE2 AA AESA multi-mode radar allows increased levels of situational awareness, multiple air target tracking, long-range interception, as well as real-time generation of three-dimensional terrain maps.

In the air supremacy role, it has passive electro-optical sensors, that allow silent attacks. The Rafale has 14 external hard-points and can carry a maximum of nine tons. The aircraft is nuclear-capable. The two, time-tested, Snecma M88 engines are modular in design allowing quicker turnaround servicing and maintenance. The engines enable super-cruise while carrying four missiles and one drop tank. There is a carrier-based variant, the Rafale M.

In addition to the French Air Force, the Rafale is being operated by India, Egypt, and Qatar. Rafale has been operationally tested in combat in Afghanistan, Libya, Mali, Iraq, and Syria. Several upgrades to the weapons and avionics of the Rafale are under testing and planned to be introduced in steps this year onwards. The Rafale is planned to be the French Air Force’s primary combat aircraft until 2040 or later.

kabe1:


This is the report from Jane's defence.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.janes.com/amp/nigeria-inducts-jf-17-fighters/ZnlJK3dHVU9mZ28xajRJVkc5dVI5VFp1cVMwPQ2

As you can see, Jane's Defence does not mention anything to corroborate your claim that the aircraft is 4.5gen.


We have all since known that the JF-17 could share data with each other, DATA-Link has been present in this aircraft since inception.

The JF-17 is an excellent fighter jet, but it is not 4.5gen. The Block 3 is 4.5gen.

The part in bold is Data-link. No need repeating ourselves.

you are right but even the block 3 as claimed by china to be 4.5 is not really true.its just their usual over hype

chrisblack:
you are right but even the block 3 as claimed by china to be 4.5 is not really true.its just their usual over hype

Keep quiet.

You sound ignorant.

NIGERIAN NAVY LAUNCHES NEW WARSHIP

The Nigerian Navy (NN) has today launched a new Landing Ship Tank (LST) at Damen Shipyard, Sharjah, United Arab Emirates. The construction of the ship began about 2 years ago and when commissioned, will replace the first set of LSTs of the NN, NNS AMBE and NNS OFIOM which have been decommissioned.

The introduction of the LST to the NN inventory will bolster NN sealift capability. Specifically, it would enhance the transportation of troops, military hardware, vehicles in the conduct of maritime security operations launched from sea as well as supply of relief material during period of national emergency. Furthermore, the vessel will serve as a critical component of naval power projection for enhanced maritime security in the Gulf of Guinea and beyond. In its secondary role, the LST will play a critical role in the protection of maritime assets and preservation of law and order at sea, thus contributing significantly to promotion of global maritime commerce, peace and safety.

The new LST has a complement of 32 crew and 250 embarked persons and a length of 100.08m. She is powered by 2 Caterpillar/Cat 3516 C-rating engines and 4 Caterpillar C-18 generators. Furthermore, she has an endurance of 15 days @ 15 knots. If she is to be used for humanitarian missions/evacuation, she can accommodate over 450 persons on its upper and lower decks in short trips.

The bid opening process for the procurement of the LST was held on 19 December 2017 and supervised/conducted by a team from the Bureau of Public Procurement as well as a technical committee of the Nigerian Navy. The Shipbuilding companies that participated were Damen Shipyards of the Netherlands, Anadolu Deniz of Turkey and Indian Shipyards GOA of India. On 13 June 2019, the NN and Damen Shipyards signed the final general arrangement plan and specifications on the LST 100 and this date of 13 June 2019 became the effective date of contract for the LST 100. The contract duration as agreed by both parties was approximately 36 months from the effective date of contract. The Keel laying ceremony for the LST 100 was held on the 9 December 2019 at The Damen-Albwardy Shipyard in Sharjah the UAE. The immediate past CNS Vice Admiral IE Ibas placed the Nigerian Navy insignia into the keel and sealed it.

Over the last 2 years several Factory Acceptance Tests with regards to various components of the LST 100 have been jointly and successfully completed by the NN and Damen Shipyards. Most notable among these FAT’s was the main propulsion engines tested in 2019/ 2020 and the Remote Weapon system which was also successfully tested in March 2021.

Damen Shipyards is one of the biggest multinational shipbuilding groups in the world, operating more than 50 shipbuilding and repair yards worldwide. On the African continent, they operate a full shipbuilding yard in South Africa and in Port Harcourt Nigeria, they operate a fully equipped maintenance yard. The LST contract is being handled by DSNS (Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding) the naval shipbuilding arm of Damen shipyards and the ship is being constructed at the Damen-Albwardi Shipbuilding Yard in Sharjar in the UAE.

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lionel4power:


Some people were complaining that they could not Register.

Here's the link.
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Bros, stop spamming the thread with your links.

We have seen it.

i tire oo. same thing on the other thread

kabe1:


Bros, stop spamming the thread with your links.

We have seen it.

kabe1:


Keep quiet.

You sound ignorant.

you go about on the forum forming technical expert on rubbish. Am around to trash you on what you know not. Even India's Tejas out performs the J17. ignoramus .and I repeat it a gain. Even the block 3 J17 are not true 4.5gen

chrisblack:
you go about on the forum forming technical expert on rubbish. Am around to trash you on what you know not. Even India's Tejas out performs the J17. ignoramus .and I repeat it a gain. Even the block 3 J17 are not true 4.5gen

Okay we don hear, what next ?

We should throw the jets away?

Ok we don hear matter close shikana

chrisblack:
you go about on the forum forming technical expert on rubbish. Am around to trash you on what you know not. Even India's Tejas out performs the J17. ignoramus .and I repeat it a gain. Even the block 3 J17 are not true 4.5gen

chrisblack:
you go about on the forum forming technical expert on rubbish. Am around to trash you on what you know not. Even India's Tejas out performs the J17. ignoramus .and I repeat it a gain. Even the block 3 J17 are not true 4.5gen

Run along you have been noticed.

jteku:


Kindly mind the language you use when addressing others, just post things related to the thread and enjoy your life, i don't know you and you don't know me and you are not more Nigerian than me.

Piece of Advice,

don't take things personal here.

F#ck you for calling Nigerians Naive. If you want a decent engagement you won't call 200 million people naive.

kabe1:


Run along you have been noticed.

Thanks alot Noticer-in-Chief

Kalapizim:
Okay we don hear, what next ?

We should throw the jets away?

I never insinuated for the throwing away of the jets.its far better than what so ever we had in a very long while.or ever had. I was only trying to make a point regarding the true status of it being a true 4.5 jet.before the self acclaimed kabe1 came insulting.
At least compare to our regional rivals we got some hard stuff for the crib

Kalapizim:
Okay we don hear, what next ?

We should throw the jets away?

Just tell him Nigeria has agreed to buy the Indian Jet.

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What about non Africans ?

Salatavor:
F#ck you for calling Nigerians Naive. If you want a decent engagement you won't call 200 million people naive.

Lolz,

i heard you spokes man of FGN or Nnamdi Kanu of Nairaland/Miyetti Allah president of Nairaland or is it Sowore of Nairaland, until i shoot you teargas for leg before you go understand.

African Lion, U.S. Africa Command’s premier joint annual exercise, kicks off in Morocco, Tunisia and Senegal for its 17th iteration June 7.

With more than 7,000 participants from nine nations and NATO, African Lion is U.S. Africa Command’s largest exercise. The training is focused on enhancing readiness for U.S. and partner nation forces.