kabe1:


What's really happening in that country?

kabe1:
New South-African Navy vessel


First locally built South-African Navy ship since 1986.

P1571 SAS SEKHUKHUNE

kabe1:
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In all Nigeria would have 6 OPVs in service, with a service requirement for 8 OPVs.

SuperSixSeven:


The 2 Hamilton OPVs are going to leave the fleet mid of this decade. So with the introduction of the Turkish vessels (in 37 months!) there will still be 4 OPVs in service if not additional platforms introduced.

Karis1:
Why does Nigeria keep purchasing equipment that it should be manufacturing itself? I understand the enthusiasm from the term "technological transfer" but I believe Nigeria already has the financial and intellectual capacity to do all this itself
The purchase of arms and equipment from foreign companies mostly serves to line the pockets of the higher echelons of the military and I feel it's no different here..Nigeria does not face any peer sized threat in the near future that would require it to make these purchases externally..I feel that the country should be investing this cash in local capacity and RnD so that when the time eventually comes and trust you me it will, the country will have systems and expertise in place to produce these vessels at a larger scale and pace..There is no greater investment than in yourself, the only justifiable part of this deal is the training of Nigerian Engineers, which should happen with or without the purchase of such vessels.
There is a great market for inshore and offshore patrol vessels in the Gulf of Guinea, foreigners have seen the opportunities and started making moves..This is to Nigeria, the path to self sufficiency and export of surplus military equipment is no longer long and tedious as it used to provided money and state goodwill is guaranteed, focus on that or you'll be left watching as all your neighbours (potential clients) buy equipment from China, Turkey, Russia and Israel

Karis1:
Why does Nigeria keep purchasing equipment that it should be manufacturing itself? I understand the enthusiasm from the term "technological transfer" but I believe Nigeria already has the financial and intellectual capacity to do all this itself
The purchase of arms and equipment from foreign companies mostly serves to line the pockets of the higher echelons of the military and I feel it's no different here..Nigeria does not face any peer sized threat in the near future that would require it to make these purchases externally..I feel that the country

Karis1:
Why does Nigeria keep purchasing equipment that it should be manufacturing itself? I understand the enthusiasm from the term "technological transfer" but I believe Nigeria already has the financial and intellectual capacity to do all this itself

kabe1:
Breaking News


Nigerian Navy, Turkish shipyard sign contract for procurement of 2 brand new Offshore Patrol Vessels.

kabe1:


While you've raised an important argument, building a defence industry is often easier said than done.

To build a strong defence industry in Nigeria, we need to have serious private sector participation. Without that, it's simply not achievable in a Nigerian political context.

No matter how much money government puts into DICON , the company always seems to under achieve.

You also need to remember that Nigeria's first locally built military vehicle was launched in 2010. The industry is still very new in Nigeria.

Nigeria's first locally built military vessel was also launched in 2012.

The industry is still new.

I do not believe that Nigeria has the financial capacity, not on the government side anyway to purse a robust defence Industry. That's why we need improved participation of the private sector.

While Nigeria has many brilliant intellectuals across multiple fields, I don't think we have the adequate intellectual skill in areas like defence manufacturing.

We can however go the Turkish path and import foreign intellectuals from abroad, but I don't see the government doing that.


While we don't currently face a peer sized threat, we do face multiple low intensity threats that are capable of destabilizing the country. Issues around Boko-haram and piracy in the gulf of Guinea if not checked have the capacity to cripple economic activities.

So do we wait and build our industry while boko-haram overruns us or do we buy what we desperately need from abroad while actively encouraging private sector and government investments in defence manufacturing.


Not to slate South-Africa , but the recently launched IPV although built in South-Africa is a Dutch design and a Dutch company built the vessel.

The design for South-African Navy hydrographic ship currently been built was bought from a Canadian company.


Back to Nigeria. The Nigerian Navy has purchased nearly 350 Inshore Patrol Crafts in the last 5 years and all the boats were purchased from Nigerian companies.

30 units of Proforce ARA MRAP from Proforce Nigeria.

More than 80 units of Ezugwu MRAPs from DICON.

Bulletproof vests and Ballistic helmets from Epail , DICON , NMT and Proforce.

The new 9 Ton PF Viper MRAPs would also be supplied to the army.

SDB 3 would be launched soon.

So while we should strive to build defence industry, we shouldn't forget the important role imports play.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/26461969.pdf

kabe1:



Not to slate South-Africa , but the recently launched IPV although built in South-Africa is a Dutch design and a Dutch company built the vessel.

The design for South-African Navy hydrographic ship currently been built was bought from a Canadian company.

SuperSixSeven:

And what exactly is the problem with this? The US Constellation Class is designed by Italian Fincantieri Marinette Marine and build in the US by this company. Main constructor of the German Navy MKS 180 is the Dutch company DAMEN. And there are many more examples how defence business is done in a globalized world.

Karis1:



but there are literally Nigerians in every field in almost every country on earth..provide them with a condusive environment to bring their expertise back home


we will all be forced to buy foreign military hardware to maintain strategic partnerships just like the UK has become a vassal and client state of the US, purchasing equipment from them that they can very well manufacture themselves just to keep the Americans happy

kabe1:


If your design is from abroad you're susceptible to foreign interference.