agaugust:



The Eagle Mobile Central Command Post is a vehicle mounted with various Information Communication and Technology equipment. This on board equipment gives the Theatre Commander the opportunity to have first hand information of the battle space. From the vehicle the commander has access to both ground troops and air assets within the battle space.


The Eagle Mobile Central Command Post was borne is a mobile Central Command Post that is designed to link up with the troops in the field, as well as the command hierarchy.

With this, the President, Commander-in-Chief, Minister of Defence, Chief of Defence Staff and the Service Chiefs can have real time contact with the troops in the field. Added to this, the Eagle Mobile Central Command Post affords close monitoring of the activities of the troops and passage of real time information from strategic level to operational and tactical levels.


Furthermore, the platform affords the Chief of Air Staff on the move to have a look at the performance of surveillance or reconnaissance aircrafts.

The project is designed as constructed by Major General C T Olukoju of the Nigerian Army.


http://www.nationalhelm.com/2016/01/photos-checkout-treasured-mobile.html

According to your envious and errornous ranting , the above explained Eagle system that links and manages real time data and visuals of an entire battle space the size of Scotland to a single vehicle command and control centre for coordinating a 30,000 man fully mechanized army plus a 100 aircraft air force is notOkay a net-centric warfare system ?

People like you are the ones destroying Africa with deliberate falsehood. Pity you, just pity you. Africa needs better people so thhat our continent can make progress like India, South Korea, Pakistan, China
.

It is clearly defined as a command post.

Do your homework first. Before telling us what Africa needs.

patches689:


1. According to the military definition of C2, an officer + map + radio = C2

2. Its a statement of fact with regards to SSA (in the military sense)

3. Nigeria simply does not poses an intergrated data-link or the ability to wage net-centric warfare - you lack a battle-feild management system, BLUEFOR trackers or advanced information sharing networks. At best Nigeria posses's node-to-node capabilities.

The simple fact of the matter, is that the SANDF posses's the most advanced net-centric warfare capabilities in SSA. Again, some nations may have node-to-node set-ups, but no one else has our level of fusion or integration.

Accept facts and deal with life, your hubris and your ego will be your downfall.

Seems some people here need serious education to be taught about C2. They don't even know what is a C2.

MikeCZAR:
It is clearly defined as a command post.

Do your homework first. Before telling us what Africa needs.

The 1988 NATO definition reads: Command and control is
the exercise of authority and direction by a properly
designated [individual] over assigned [resources] in the
accomplishment of a [common goal].



The Australian Defence Force definition is similar: C2 is the
system empowering designated personnel to exercise lawful
authority and direction over assigned forces for the
accomplishment of missions and tasks.



So what does the Eagle system do in relation to what NATO and Australia defines as C2?

agaugust:



The Eagle Mobile Central Command Post is a vehicle mounted with various Information Communication and Technology equipment. This on board equipment gives the Theatre Commander the opportunity to have first hand information of the battle space. From the vehicle the commander has access to both ground troops and air assets within the battle space.


The Eagle Mobile Central Command Post was borne is a mobile Central Command Post that is designed to link up with the troops in the field, as well as the command hierarchy.

With this, the President, Commander-in-Chief, Minister of Defence, Chief of Defence Staff and the Service Chiefs can have real time contact with the troops in the field. Added to this, the Eagle Mobile Central Command Post affords close monitoring of the activities of the troops and passage of real time information from strategic level to operational and tactical levels.


Furthermore, the platform affords the Chief of Air Staff on the move to have a look at the performance of surveillance or reconnaissance aircrafts.

The project is designed as constructed by Major General C T Olukoju of the Nigerian Army.


http://www.nationalhelm.com/2016/01/photos-checkout-treasured-mobile.html

According to your envious and errornous ranting , the above explained Eagle system that links and manages real time data and visuals of an entire battle space the size of Scotland to a single vehicle command and control centre for coordinating a 30,000 man fully mechanized army plus a 100 aircraft air force is not a net-centric warfare system.

People like you are the ones destroying Africa with deliberate falsehood. Pity you, just pity you. Africa needs better people
.

Ignoring the rest of your B.S post I'll like to come to the bolded part.

You are very quick to call someone a liar, or claiming they deliberately spread falshood.

Yet since I've been on this thread (which is just a little over a year) you've been an Accountant/Finance Manager and a Military researcher, you've permanently worked in Nigeria, then all of a sudden you are permanently based in America, you've also claimed you work for an American accounting firm , but now all of a sudden you work for a pmc?? You have also Aged backwards, by first claiming you are an old man, when I first joined the thread to claiming that Patches689 was old enough to be your uncle.

You have rubbished the claims that Patches689 works/worked in S-Korea even after he showed you undisputable photographic evidence, But when we ask for proof that you indeed live in the US, you are unable to produce even a shred of evidence.

You also continually claim that you are not Augustine from beegeagle blog, yet there are posts that are identical on beegeagle than the ones on NL!! You also share the same name, have the same interests(military) and write in the same way.

Thus remove the log in your eye before trying to remove a splinter in anothers eye!!

MikeCZAR:
They don't in many organizations.

SF trained for conventional warfare?

World War II and Angolan bush war had special forces, are tbose not conventional wars? There is a difference between an unconventional mission/task and an unconventional war. Boko Haram insurgency is an unconventional war. SF do unconventional missions in conventional war, they are majorly trained to operate against a conventional army, but nowadays the sphere is changing, and SF are getting trained to operate against unconventional enemies of mostly Islamic terrorists. Mission Evolution.

Henry240:


The 1988 NATO definition reads: Command and control is
the exercise of authority and direction by a properly
designated [individual] over assigned [resources] in the
accomplishment of a [common goal].



The Australian Defence Force definition is similar: C2 is the
system empowering designated personnel to exercise lawful
authority and direction over assigned forces for the
accomplishment of missions and tasks.



So what does the Eagle system do in relation to what NATO and Australia defines as C2?

Your eagle is just a toy my boy.

agaugust:



The Eagle Mobile Central Command Post is a vehicle mounted with various Information Communication and Technology equipment. This on board equipment gives the Theatre Commander the opportunity to have first hand information of the battle space. From the vehicle the commander has access to both ground troops and air assets within the battle space.


The Eagle Mobile Central Command Post was borne is a mobile Central Command Post that is designed to link up with the troops in the field, as well as the command hierarchy.

With this, the President, Commander-in-Chief, Minister of Defence, Chief of Defence Staff and the Service Chiefs can have real time contact with the troops in the field. Added to this, the Eagle Mobile Central Command Post affords close monitoring of the activities of the troops and passage of real time information from strategic level to operational and tactical levels.


Furthermore, the platform affords the Chief of Air Staff on the move to have a look at the performance of surveillance or reconnaissance aircrafts.

The project is designed as constructed by Major General C T Olukoju of the Nigerian Army.


http://www.nationalhelm.com/2016/01/photos-checkout-treasured-mobile.html

According to your envious and errornous ranting , the above explained Eagle system that links and manages real time data and visuals of an entire battle space the size of Scotland to a single vehicle command and control centre for coordinating a 30,000 man fully mechanized army plus a 100 aircraft air force is not a net-centric warfare system ?

People like you are the ones destroying Africa with deliberate falsehood. Pity you, just pity you. Africa needs better people so thhat our continent can make progress like India, South Korea, Pakistan, China
.

Yes augustus

It says you have a node-to-node system

You dont have net-centric warfare capabilites - no intergratrd datalink, no battle-managment systems,no bluefor trackers

Africa needs better people so we can be like korea? Who do you think i work for

Henry240:


The 1988 NATO definition reads: Command and control is
the exercise of authority and direction by a properly
designated [individual] over assigned [resources] in the
accomplishment of a [common goal].



The Australian Defence Force definition is similar: C2 is the
system empowering designated personnel to exercise lawful
authority and direction over assigned forces for the
accomplishment of missions and tasks.



So what does the Eagle system do in relation to what NATO and Australia defines as C2?

The command post?

Henry240:


The 1988 NATO definition reads: Command and control is
the exercise of authority and direction by a properly
designated [individual] over assigned [resources] in the
accomplishment of a [common goal].



The Australian Defence Force definition is similar: C2 is the
system empowering designated personnel to exercise lawful
authority and direction over assigned forces for the
accomplishment of missions and tasks.



So what does the Eagle system do in relation to what NATO and Australia defines as C2?

The command post?

I can set up one with civilian tech.

patches689:


SF and SOF do not mean the same thing, never have and never will.

All SF by definition are trained for COiN since the role of SF is to train and lead insurgencies and conduct irregular operations behind enemy lines

SOF has become propular because of terrorism and COIN and they specialize in speacial operations within the confines of traditional warfare - HVT grabs, exploitation of tactical information etc

Its all confusion created by American use of language. SF and SOF are the same thing all over the world except in USA.

Read this weblink :

http://havokjournal.com/culture/the-difference-between-special-operations-and-special-forces/

Howerver, I will quote another source for easy reading :

"Special forces and special operations forces are military units trained to perform unconventional missions. Special forces, as they would now be recognised, emerged in the early 20th century, with a significant growth in the field during the Second World War.

Depending on the country, special forces may perform some of the following functions: airborne operations, counter-insurgency, "counter-terrorism", covert ops, direct action, hostage rescue, high-value targets/manhunting, intelligence operations, mobility operations, and unconventional warfare. The term “special forces” in the US refers to the US Army's forces while the term “special operation forces” refers to all units. In Russian-speaking countries special forces are typically called spetsnaz, an acronym for "special purpose". Likewise Russian speakers refer to special forces of other nations as spetsnaz, for example US Special Forces would be referred to as Amerikanski spetsnaz in Russian."
.

Henry240:


The 1988 NATO definition reads: Command and control is
the exercise of authority and direction by a properly
designated [individual] over assigned [resources] in the
accomplishment of a [common goal].



The Australian Defence Force definition is similar: C2 is the
system empowering designated personnel to exercise lawful
authority and direction over assigned forces for the
accomplishment of missions and tasks.



So what does the Eagle system do in relation to what NATO and Australia defines as C2?

Like i said

Officer + map + radio = C2

We are talking about C3I + netcentric warfare (google it)

agaugust:


Its all confusion created by American use of language. SF and SOF are the same thing.


"Special forces and special operations forces are military units trained to perform unconventional missions. Special forces, as they would now be recognised, emerged in the early 20th century, with a significant growth in the field during the Second World War.

Depending on the country, special forces may perform some of the following functions: airborne operations, counter-insurgency, "counter-terrorism", covert ops, direct action, hostage rescue, high-value targets/manhunting, intelligence operations, mobility operations, and unconventional warfare. The term “special forces” in the US refers to the US Army's forces while the term “special operation forces” refers to all units. In Russian-speaking countries special forces are typically called spetsnaz, an acronym for "special purpose". Likewise Russian speakers refer to special forces of other nations as spetsnaz, for example US Special Forces would be referred to as Amerikanski spetsnaz in Russian."
.

So you are trying to justify your outdated lexicon?

I thought you were a military researcher... you should be up to date!!

patches689:


So you are trying to justify your outdated lexicon?

I thought you were a military researcher... you should be up to date!!

Sure I am, and this proves you wrong :

http://havokjournal.com/culture/the-difference-between-special-operations-and-special-forces/

SF and SOF are the same all over the world except in America
.

It looks more like my LG LED (3D) TV. Look at that telephone on the side. Is this what agaugust calls advanced. It looks more like live television recording.



OUR CHAKA C2 LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THIS JOKE HERE BELOW.

agaugust:


World War II and Angolan bush war had special forces, are tbose not conventional wars? There is a difference between an unconventional mission/task and an unconventional war. Boko Haram insurgency is an unconventional war. SF do unconventional missions in conventional war, they are majorly trained to operate against a conventional army, but nowadays the sphere is changing, and SF are getting trained to operate against unconventional enemies. Evolution.

SF are a strategic force therefore are used for strategic missions most of the time. To help archive long term political or military goals of the war.

Mostly operating outside the battlefield(Behind enemy lines, among the enemy etc) to influence events inside the battle space and the minds of those in control. Primary tasks are reccon, man hunt etc.

They are not used as a conventional force. And specialise in guerrilla warfare. No evolution there.

agaugust:


Sure I am, and this proves you wrong :

http://havokjournal.com/culture/the-difference-between-special-operations-and-special-forces/

SF and SOF are the same all over the world except in America
.

Americans started it

The term and differentiation has entered into internatio al military parlance

Go onto an international forum and refer to the Special boat service as Sf and see what happens

Its an acceptable mistake for layment, buy not for military enthusiasts

mzilakazi:
It looks more like my LG LED (3D) TV. Look at that telephone on the side. Is this what agaugust calls advanced. It looks more like live television recording.



OUR CHAKA C2 LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THIS JOKE HERE BELOW.

Did you see inside the Eagle vehicle itself? Or you think thats an MTN telephone that commands a 30,000 man army and 100 aircraft.

I think you South Africans are mistaken this photo thread for the other one.

Try show some sanity and maturity when on this African thread.

patches689:

Americans started it

The term and differentiation has entered into internatio al military parlance

Go onto an international forum and refer to the Special boat service as Sf and see what happens

Its an acceptable mistake for layment, buy not for military enthusiasts

Only Americans on international forums think the two are different. Other countries like Russia call their commandos SF, so they will understand me while you choose to remain ignorant.

Only American military defines SF and SOF as different. The rest of the world defines them as the same. Live in error because of ego, your choice.

http://havokjournal.com/culture/the-difference-between-special-operations-and-special-forces/
.

Henry240:


The 1988 NATO definition reads: Command and control is
the exercise of authority and direction by a properly
designated [individual] over assigned [resources] in the
accomplishment of a [common goal].





The Australian Defence Force definition is similar: C2 is the
system empowering designated personnel to exercise lawful
authority and direction over assigned forces for the
accomplishment of missions and tasks.



So what does the Eagle system do in relation to what NATO and Australia defines as C2?

You must go and learn more about C2 system and you will soon realise your mistakes.

agaugust:


Did you see inside the Eagle vehicle itself? Or you think thats an MTN telephone that commands a 30,000 man army and 100 aircraft.

I think you South Africans are mistaken this photo thread for the other one.

Try show some sanity and maturity when on this African thread.

Our military researcher need a serious education about C2.

agaugust:


Did you see inside the Eagle vehicle itself? Or you think thats an MTN telephone that commands a 30,000 man army and 100 aircraft.

I think you South Africans are mistaken this photo thread for the other one.

Try show some sanity and maturity when on this African thread.

Who said it commands 30,000 men and 100 aircraft?

No one but you

MikeCZAR:
SF are a strategic force therefore are used for strategic missions most of the time. To help archive long term political or military goals of the war.

Mostly operating outside the battlefield(Behind enemy lines, among the enemy etc) to influence events inside the battle space and the minds of those in control. Primary tasks are reccon, man hunt etc.

They are not used as a conventional force. And specialise in guerrilla warfare.

No evolution there.

SF have evolved from fighting Cuba in Angola behind enemy lines, to fighting the likes of Boko Haram that have NO LINES....NO FRONTLINE....SO THERE IS NOTHING CALLED BEHIND ENEMY LINES.

Mission of SF has seen evolution over the years.

agaugust:


World War II and Angolan bush war had special forces, are tbose not conventional wars? There is a difference between an unconventional mission/task and an unconventional war. Boko Haram insurgency is an unconventional war. SF do unconventional missions in conventional war, they are majorly trained to operate against a conventional army, but nowadays the sphere is changing, and SF are getting trained to operate against unconventional enemies of mostly Islamic terrorists. Mission Evolution.

Regarding what you describe as "Angolan bush war". The war there advanced and regressed to various forms on all sides (Angola, Portugal, UNITA, South Africa, Namibia and other rebel groups).

mzilakazi:
It looks more like my LG LED (3D) TV. Look at that telephone on the side. Is this what agaugust calls advanced. It looks more like live television recording.



OUR CHAKA C2 LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THIS JOKE HERE BELOW.

Bwahahahahahaha…

A tele video conferencing.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videoconferencing

agaugust:


SF have evolved from fighting Cuba in Angola behind enemy lines, to fighting the likes of Boko Haram that have NO LINES....NO FRONTLINE....SO THERE IS NOTHING CALLED BEHIND ENEMY LINES.

Mission of SF has seen evolution over the years.

Did SWAPO have front lines?

Do you think the war in Angola was conventional??

Did the Selous Scouts fight a conventional war?

MikeCZAR:
The command post?

I can set up one with civilian tech.

What's the definition of a C2? What does the eagle system do in relation to the definition given by NATO or the Australians?


This is the question, not whether you can or cannot do it.


Anybody with half a brain can set up one, it's not rocket science.

patches689:


Who said it commands 30,000 men and 100 aircraft?

No one but you

" The Eagle Mobile Central Command Post is a vehicle mounted with various Information Communication and Technology equipment. This on board equipment gives the Theatre Commander the opportunity to have first hand information of the battle space. From the vehicle the commander has access to both ground troops and air assets within the battle space."

http://www.nationalhelm.com/2016/01/photos-checkout-treasured-mobile.html

Like I said, with people like you on this continent, there is no hope for Africa
.

Henry240:


What's the definition of a C2? What does the eagle system do in relation to the definition given by NATO or the Australians?


This is the question, not whether you can or cannot do it.


Anybody with half a brain can set up one, it's not rocket science.

I am ashamed that you would call an ordinary video conferencing a C2 system.

patches689:


Did SWAPO have front lines?

Do you think the war in Angola was conventional??

Did the Selous Scouts fight a conventional war?

Did SWAPO have 13 year old girls as suicide bombers? Did SWAPO kidnap civilians to use as sex slaves or human shields? Did SWAPO mass murder 500 innocent civilians in one village in one night by cutting their throats with knives while the people slept peacefully?

Not worth debating, not worth it.

AN ORDINARY VIDEO CONFERENCING THAT UNISA USES TO LECTURE ITS DISTANCE STUDENTS IN ITS CENTERS COINTRYWIDE IS CALLED A C2 SYSTEM IN NIGERIA. WHAT A SHAME!!!

agaugust:


Did you see inside the Eagle vehicle itself? Or you think thats an MTN telephone that commands a 30,000 man army and 100 aircraft.

I think you South Africans are mistaken this photo thread for the other one.

Try show some sanity and maturity when on this African thread.

So you mean a vehicle fully loaded with video conferencing equipments? You are truly still behind in terms of technology.

The general as the project manager went on to buy ordinary video conferencing equipment and load them in a truck so that Commander in Chief can be able to communicate and even assess the situation through televideo communication. This is 100% not a C2 system.

Look here and I quote about who designed and constructed these toy machines

The project is designed and constructed by Major General C T Olukoju of the Nigerian Army.


http://www.nationalhelm.com/2016/01/photos-checkout-treasured-mobile.html?m=1


C2 system is complicated and uses ultra technology that cannot be put together by one man. Now here in Nigeria it was put together by one man and perhaps in two days. A general for that matter and not even group of top engineers.

NIGERIAN MILITARY IS A JOKE