gudugba:

Learn to keep quiet if its important you should and talk just to show your obvious ignorance.

If you look up the definition of fact and opinion...you will come to understand what you've expressed.

Thats right, go and "look up the definition of fact and opinion". It will help to iron out many of your fraudulent views about one Nigeria.

quid:
Thats right, go and "look up the definition of fact and opinion". It will help to iron out many of your fraudulent views about one Nigeria.

Guy...drop it. You are making no sense whatsoever

They have start o! Op, the part about Chukwumerije, Ofonago and Akpamgbo, I'm just reading it for the first time. Pls what did they do to fuel the crises?

gudugba:

Guy...drop it. You are making no sense whatsoever

And you have become evasive by attempting to engage in personal attacks. E no go work.

quid:
And you have become evasive by attempting to engage in personal attacks. E no go work.

That is the only way to shut knob-heads down. Why should I engage you actively when you are ranting bullshytee

gudugba:

That is the only way to shut knob-heads down. Why should I engage you actively when you are ranting bullshytee

Still going personal. Keep it up.

The FACT remains that the yoruba conception of one Nigeria is selfish, dishonest, fraudulent, unconstitutional, tribalist, etc.

quid:
Still going personal. Keep it up.

The FACT remains that the yoruba conception of one Nigeria is selfish, dishonest, fraudulent, unconstitutional, tribalist, etc.

You see why I can't engage someone like you actively with such bigoted opinion ? When you learn to think and act without such tribal lens ..then maybe..just maybe I will engage you.

For now...just shut up!

gudugba:

You see why I can't engage someone like you actively with such bigoted opinion ? When you learn to think and act without such tribal lens ..then maybe..just maybe I will engage you.

For now...just shut up!

~yawns deeply~

I am stating FACTS, not opinions.
Facts contain plenty of truth that correspond to reality. I know that truth is hard for you to bear, but try.

My Father always talk about the potency of smashing the head of invaders in Abeokuta then on Oluno Rock, I will soon practiced it with some FLAT HEADS

gudugba:

That is the only way to shut knob-heads down. Why should I engage you actively when you are ranting bullshytee

Lets be objective for once:
what do we really mean when we say One Nigeria?
How come after long term of "AFO(arewa, fula and odua)domination yet no unity?

Blv me today that the group that suffers most in this divisions is minorities.

seanet02: My Father always talk about the potency of smashing the head of invaders in Abeokuta then on Oluno Rock, I will soon practiced it with some FLAT HEADS

I see you are describing a genocidal idea. Which invaders are u talking about? Where are they?

quid:
By the Yoruba understanding of one Nigeria, oil proceeds must also not be used to develop other places outside the oil producing areas.
Fraudulently, the same oil producing areas are the least developed in terms of infrastructure.

As you can see, there is a great fraud and selfishness at the heart of the yoruba understanding of one Nigeria. Keep it up.

Yoruba have championed the cause of more derivations for the oil states than Ibo. Show us where your leaders have struggled in the fight to keep more money in Itshekiri, Ijaw and Ogoni land.

masu:

Lets be objective for once:
what do we really mean when we say One Nigeria?

My brother. The Nigerian constitution says one thing, the Yorubas and Hausas have an entirely different thing in mind. For them, Nigeria is one insofar as it favors them. When they begin to "lose out", they begin to bring up inconsistent and irrational arguments.

OPC.NAIRALAND:


Yoruba have championed the cause of more derivations for the oil states than Ibo. Show us where your leaders have struggled in the fight to keep more money in Itshekiri, Ijaw and Ogoni land.

Alex Ekwueme brought up the idea of 13% derivation, much to the chagrin of the Yorubas and Hausa WHO DON'T LIKE MONEY

quid:
I see you are describing a genocidal idea. Which invaders are u talking about? Where are they?

There is nothing wrong with obliging the Ibo desire for mass suicide in Lagos. Afterall you endure it as an annual rite up North and you do not see anything wrong with it up there.

OPC.NAIRALAND:


There is nothing wrong with obliging the Ibo desire for mass suicide in Lagos.

Good, so u are planning mass murders. Very good. Its good to speak clearly

OPC.NAIRALAND:

Afterall you endure it as an annual rite up North and you do not see anything wrong with it up there.

Notice how the entire North keeps regressing into the stone age, despite the number of ppl they kill. Keep watching...

quid:
Alex Ekwueme brought up the idea of 13% derivation, much to the chagrin of the Yorubas and Hausa WHO DON'T LIKE MONEY

Stop your "lies-becomes-the-truth" story. Ekwueme had no such legscy.

Search Fashola and oil derivation formula.

seanet02: My Father always talk about the potency of smashing the head of invaders in Abeokuta then on Oluno Rock, I will soon practiced it with some FLAT HEADS

are u not getting the whole thing twisted:
before you kill ibos there are better things to do "campaign for disintegration". --
am sure ibos will support and we the minorities in the north will and nigerdeltas too.

you may ask why didn't we move that motion, as you know that minorities voice means nothing in Nigeria and ibos has done it b4 and any move from them now will meet resistance again from all therefore the YORUBAs are the only strong majority to do it and gain popular support.

SW-- vote
SS-- vote
se-- vote
nc-- vote
ne-- no
nw-- no
the voting will resemble the above with little changes here and there, so victory at last.
rememnber that south east and south south(biafran war) has tried doing it in the past and middle beltan(gideon orkar coup) has tried too.

OPC.NAIRALAND:


Stop your "lies-becomes-the-truth" story. Ekwueme had no such legscy.

Search Fashola and oil derivation formula.

hahahahahahahahah....another propaganda.

OPC.NAIRALAND:


Stop your "lies-becomes-the-truth" story. Ekwueme had no such legscy.

Search Fashola and oil derivation formula.

No my brother Gov Fash has never been of any strong force to Niger Delta issue.

it is Alex Ekwueme that did it both the creation of niger delta region and 13% derivation I stand to be corrected.

masu:

No my brother Gov Fash has never been of any strong force to Niger Delta issue.

it is Alex Ekwueme that did it both the creation of niger delta region and 13% derivation I stand to be corrected.

I thought they said Yorubas are educated and read a lot. This un-informed-ness is disappointing.

quid:
Good, so u are planning mass murders. Very good. Its good to speak clearly


Notice how the entire North keeps regressing into the stone age, despite the number of ppl they kill. Keep watching...

Planning You are asleep bro, wake up!

We initiated new strategy for Nigeria after June 12. We are proactively prepared to kill and massacre any non-Yoruba on Yoruba soil should the defense of any part of our land come under threat of attack, in addition to taking the fight outside our enclave and to the enemy if so necessary. Planning is no longer in our agenda; change that to READY!

If the regression in North is a cause and effect outcome of Ibo massacre, then what is the attribute one should attach to the similar regression in East?

masu:

No my brother Gov Fash has never been of any strong force to Niger Delta issue.

it is Alex Ekwueme that did it both the creation of niger delta region and 13% derivation I stand to be corrected.

I said search google with the key fashola and derivation formula.

OPC.NAIRALAND:


Planning You are asleep bro, wake up!

We initiated new strategy for Nigeria after June 12. We are proactively prepared to kill and massacre any non-Yoruba on Yoruba soil should the defense of any part of our land come under threat of attack, in addition to taking the fight outside our enclave and to the enemy if so necessary. Planning is no longer in our agenda; change that to READY!

I am impressed. How many weapons have you imported so far and distributed?

OPC.NAIRALAND:

If the regression in North is a cause and effect outcome of Ibo massacre, then what is the attribute one should attach to the similar regression in East?

Go to the East and find out for yourself.

OPC.NAIRALAND:


I said search google with the key fashola and derivation formula.

Fashola was still struggling with law practice when Ekwueme originated with the 13% derivation formula.

quid:
I am impressed. How many weapons have you imported so far and distributed?


Go to the East and find out for yourself.

We dont care about your impression. Business brought you to Lagos, okay, face your business, make your money and take care of your people and land back home. Lagos is not your land so dont make trouble for yourself here. Face your trade, you came to Lagos to make money, not to spill your blood, right? Then dont loose focus of what brought you here. Don't make us ask you to explain your presence on our soil.

We are Yoruba first, our land is our constitution. Nigerian constitution comes second.


You spoke boldly and authoritatively to explain why North is in regress. Why are you timid to explain regression in East?

OPC.NAIRALAND:

then what is the attribute one should attach to the similar regression in East?

The same question we have been asking for ages. If the east is so good to them, why don't they relocate their ladipo and katangora to igboland.

OPC.NAIRALAND:


We dont care about your impression. Business brought you to Lagos, okay, face your business, make your money and take care of your people and land back home. Lagos is not your land so dont make trouble for yourself here. Face your trade, you came to Lagos to make money, not to spill your blood, right? Then dont loose focus of what brought you here. Don't make us ask you to explain your presence on our soil.

We are Yoruba first, our land is our constitution. Nigerian constitution comes second.

Your land is under the Nigeria constitution, as are all other lands within Nigeria. Quit being fraudulent.

OPC.NAIRALAND:

You spoke boldly and authoritatively to explain why North is in regress. Why are you timid to explain regression in East?

There is no regression in the East. Travel for Xmas with your Igbo neighbors and find out.

saxywale:
The same question we have been asking for ages. If the east is so good to them, why don't they relocate their ladipo and katangora to igboland.

Stop telling Igbos how to live their lives. Notice that many Igbos travel to the East for Xmas and Easter holidays. Join them once and see things for yourself

Ngwakwe: If this analysis represents the view of an average South Westerner, then there is a looming problem that required legislative attention to avert the explosion of this dangerous ticking time bomb.

No tribe will play second fiddle to the other where they can muster the majority and desire to fulfil their Nigerian dream through election.

I see war if an Igbo wins a local government election in a free and fair election in Lagos State.

You are so funny, must Igbos contest in Lagos? Remember Jos Crisis. The friendly Beroms became hostile when the settlers posed themselves as a threat and hell bent on taking over the control of a local government in Jos not the entire Plateau State itself oooo. Igbos are doing the same thing in Lagos State, they should pray 2015 election doesn't lead to violence cos if it does that's when we shall know the true owner of Lagos State. This is Nigeria Africa not USA, no matter how long a settler lives in another state he will be regarded as a settler. Igbos should refrain from presenting themselves as a threat cos bodi go tell them oooo....I'm posting from Abuja but I've been following every event through media esp nairaland....Half a word......Peace.

Konmight: You are so funny, must Igbos contest in Lagos? Remember Jos Crisis. The friendly Beroms became hostile when the settlers posed themselves as a threat and hell bent on taking over the control of a local government in Jos not the entire Plateau State itself oooo. Igbos are doing the same thing in Lagos State, they should pray 2015 election doesn't lead to violence cos if it does that's when we shall know the true owner of Lagos State. This is Nigeria Africa not USA, no matter how long a settler lives in another state he will be regarded as a settler. Igbos should refrain from presenting themselves as a threat cos bodi go tell them oooo....I'm posting from Abuja but I've been following every event through media esp nairaland....Half a word......Peace.

One united and indivisible Nigeria.

NDI-IGBO Kwenu! Are we that desperate that we must force ourselves on others? Dr. Pat Obiefule asks!



I greet you all. Ndewo nu! I have tried very hard to resist the urge to jump into this Igbo-Yoruba-Hausa-Nigeria discourse; but the more I read the posts on all sides of the argument, the stronger and more irresistible the urge became. So here we are.



As a brief recess from all these high and low impact intellectual aerobics, may I please ask that you patiently walk through and analyze the following basic anecdotal scenario with me regarding the Igbo-Nigeria quagmire? Here we go:Nigeria is a polygamous man; hence the many wives - Alhaja Yoruba Nigeria, Hajia Hausa Nigeria, Lolo Igbo Nigeria, Mrs. Efik Nigeria, Mrs. Edo Nigeria, Mrs. Ijaw Nigeria, etcetera.



Picture Nigeria’s majestic mansion (main house) strategically located in the front center of his compound and surrounded by the individual bungalows belonging to each of the wives and her children.



While each of the other wives and her children are busy developing/beautifying and maintaining their bungalow and its surrounding, Lolo Igbo’s children decide to leave her own bungalow and instead reside with her co-wives and help develop their bungalows.



Lolo Igbo’s children are fairly patriotic, but regrettably not “matriotic” (made that up, hahaha!) because they help their half-brothers and half-sisters develop and maintain their mothers’ bungalows while neglecting their own home which is Lolo Igbo’s bungalow. Now, Lolo Igbo’s bungalow is rapidly becoming dilapidated. Meanwhile, Lolo Igbo’s co-wives and their children feel that Lolo Igbo’s children have overstayed their welcome and want them to go home to their mother and help her rebuild her crumbling bungalow.



Understandably, Lolo Igbo’s co-wives and their children insist that Lolo Igbo’s children are welcome to visit their respective bungalows to enjoy for a while, but not to move in and try to displace them from their own homes.



But alas! Lolo Igbo’s children would not have it. They feel instead that it is their father’s compound and they are ENTITLED to leave their mother’s bungalow and reside in any of the other ones, if they so desire. (IDEALLY RIGHT, WHERE THERE IS LOTS OF LOVE; BUT NOT ALWAYS PRACTICABLE ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS NO LOVE LOST)Of course the half-brothers and half-sisters are enraged by Lolo Igbo’s children’s stubborn defiance; so, in attempting to forcibly eject them from Lolo Igbo’s co-wives’ domains, lots of the Igbo children lose their lives.



Now, Lolo Igbo and her surviving children cry, “Bloody murder!”



As a bona fide Eziada Igbo, I then ask:



1. Under the circumstances, do we really have the right to blame anyone else but ourselves?

2. Do we not say in Igbo that: ukpara okpoko gburu, nti chiri ya”?

3. Are we so resolute in our own self-ascribed level of knowledge and wisdom that we’ve gone to the stream to fetch water with a basket (amakam ihe, jiri ekete kuru mmiri)?

4. Do we not understand the simple basic fact that we cannot force ourselves on someone who does not want us even if we happen to be siblings or half siblings? After all, we don’t get to choose our relatives (half-siblings included), only our friends.

5. Have we stopped to wonder why our half-brothers and half-sisters are not breaking down our mother’s door trying to come and reside with us their?

6. And what about our polygamous father, Nigeria? What is his stand in all of this?

7. Could it be that he has turned deaf ears and looked the other way because our mother, Lolo Igbo Nigeria, is his least favorite wife?

8. Could it also be that allowing us to renounce his paternity claim on us and secede from his polygamous dominion would hurt his ego and embarrass him, but more importantly deny him access to the economic resources in our mother’s backyard?

9. Assuming these reasons were totally or partially true, shouldn’t that be strong enough motivation for us to retreat to our mother’s domain, rebuild it, and then make our case when we come to the general family meeting table at the main house (father’s mansion)?

10. Have we not determined that we can actually retreat to our mother’s domain, rebuild and develop it while still sharing our last name (Nigeria) and a peaceful co-existence with our half-siblings within our father’s polygamous kingdom?

11. Isn’t that how it really works in most polygamous families?In more general terms (non-scenario specific), may I then ask:



1. Will it be deemed over-reaction on my part if I characterize as callous, those who cite “One Nigeria” as the impetus for espousing the establishment of micro Igbo dominions within other linguistic regions of Nigeria even in the face of foreknown unflinching hostility?

2. Are these individuals capable of empathizing with the individuals and families whose hearts and lives have been shattered and forever changed by the consequences of the pogroms that have punctuated our history?

3. Does it not make more practical sense that a sustainable egalitarian “One Nigeria” would be better negotiated and achieved with mutual respect by designees of each linguistic group who come to the Federal table from a strong, confident and respectable home base rather than a resentful, envious, and even spiteful victim-minded one?

4. If I come to your home and you decide that I have overstayed my welcome and ask me to leave, or else lose my life; is it not foolhardy, to say the least, for me to not only insist on staying, but also demand the right to share your home?

5. Will it not be wiser for me to heed your request or threat and exist gracefully, and once secured in my own home (developed or not), then express to you my disappointment for being excused from your home?

6. For those who propose claiming dominion in another man’s land, and then establishing and nurturing strategic alliances for safety and security; do you honestly believe that when the chips are down, there are enough Hausas and Yorubas that would lay down their lives to save that of an Igbo friend?

7. Given the proven intellectual prowess and enterprising acumen of Igbos, can any of you even begin to imagine the paradise that Igbo land would become if Igbos were to invest in their land, half the energy and resources we spend in developing other lands?

8. Even though Igbos don’t have the enormous land mass that exist in the north, for instance; could we not build on top of buildings, so that Igbo land becomes known in the world as, among other things, the land of sky-scrappers?

9. Would that be such an impossible dream to accomplish?

10. Have we not yet realized that we are the direct architects of all the ills (kidnappings, child trafficking, corruption, armed robbery, etc) that plague Igbo land? Why? Because all those ills are the unintended consequences of our insatiable lust for non-Igbo lands and our willful neglect of Igbo land?

11. Will I be branded a pessimist if I dare predict that until we choose to shift our focus from constantly retelling the tales of woes in Igbo land (problem mindset) to churning out possible solutions (solution/result orientation) to those ills; we will continue to spin the wheels of status quo, while delusively expecting a new outcome?My brothers and sisters of Igbo extraction, “ariri erigbuole umu Igbo”! Let us for once in our collective live take the challenge to retreat and develop from within. Let us initiate an “Operation Develop Igbo land” and insist that until full development is accomplished, all roads lead to Igbo land. We can do it! The devil is always in the detail, of course. So, think results! Think solutions! Brainstorm! No idea is too big, too small, or too irrelevant to be considered. Keep your ideas coming until we find one or some that will work! If you condemn someone else’s idea, please lay out your reasons, then present your alternative(s) along with the underpinning rationale(s).Long live Ala Igbo (Lolo Igbo Nigeria)!Long live Nigeria!!!



Udo diri unu!

Much love

Eziada

Dr. Pat Obiefule(Opuruiche Nwanyi