HolyHolla:

In fact, I just asked your "lord Ogun", who is one of the principalities placed under my feet by the blood of Jesus, and he agrees that blood like yours would be appropriate. So, report immediately at the shrine for the disconnection of your head to appease your lord.

ghettodreamz: So all the closed churches have been operating illegally for many years and it just dawn on him that he should take this step? I really don't get it.. Perhaps, this is one of the many ways Satan and his cohorts are planning to use in order to diminish number of people who are candidates of Heaven; by using all these earthly government rulers(anti-Christ) to carry out his evil acts.

Well, Satan is such a BIG LOSER on this, because 'No Matter What' JESUS REIGNS

HolyHolla:

The three main points you made are disagreeable.

If you advocate banning of all religion, I'll equally add that we ban all forms of individual reasoning, then we can turn everyone into zombies.

You are very wrong about China too. They are a religious society with various religious groups, particularly oriental religions and including Christians. Though, during the heat of the Revolution, Christian groups were proscribed except for state sanctioned Christian religion, Catholicism, Chinese government have now seen wisdom in allowing more flexibilty. Yet, it is a more glorious time for Chinese economy than during the Revolution.

Even if there is no religion in Nigeria, our leaders will still "have been stealing us blind" (sic) as long as we remain corrupt, selfish, materialistic, tribalistic and hero-worshipping.

Consider this:
Great Britain and other western countries prospered under Christian forms of life, laws and style of living, but now, as they dismantle their values, their societies are being corrupted and the economies are collapsing. Note also that it was Christian pilgrims and adventurers that founded and built the U.S., which also is now collapsing after devaluing their Christian principles.

I submit that it's not the problem of religion; it's our African psyche we need to change.

PAGAN 9JA:



we don't do human sacrifices. How do you know Ive not contributed to society? INfact e ven now by educating the masses of the evils of jesus the jew, I am contributing to society.

Our forefathers. DO you know my forefathers? WHat do you mean defenceless? OFcourse they were defenceless.they led good simple lives. they did not expect the whites to just barge in.

WHy are you expecting the Gods, hat are SPiritual Forces, to directly interfere in our personal human wars? We never put in much of an effor ourselves did we?

your white slave masters today have mostly given up on the alse doctrine of jesus.

whos talking about cults? im talking about tribal religion.

Why are you arguing senselessly against me? Is it not your ancestral religion as well. Are you so steeped in slave mentality that today you are ready to criticize your own beliefs for that of foreign ones. It is a shame SIr. IT is a shame. .

eGuerrilla: I bet some of those churches had names like the ones provided below



Source: FILEBE(m): 8:25pm On Dec 07, 2010

PAGAN 9JA:



we don't do human sacrifices. How do you know Ive not contributed to society? INfact e ven now by educating the masses of the evils of jesus the jew, I am contributing to society.

Our forefathers. DO you know my forefathers? WHat do you mean defenceless? OFcourse they were defenceless.they led good simple lives. they did not expect the whites to just barge in.

WHy are you expecting the Gods, hat are SPiritual Forces, to directly interfere in our personal human wars? We never put in much of an effor ourselves did we?

your white slave masters today have mostly given up on the alse doctrine of jesus.

whos talking about cults? im talking about tribal religion.

Why are you arguing senselessly against me? Is it not your ancestral religion as well. Are you so steeped in slave mentality that today you are ready to criticize your own beliefs for that of foreign ones. It is a shame SIr. IT is a shame. .

peedeeasobie: With trepidation and holy fear I read the comments and I discover why and how a lot of people will be deceived by the anti-christ wen he shows up.

Men's heart are already hardened against God and his christ. Men now trust the state instead of God.

Someone said, "close the churches, there are a lot of fakes". My question is, are there not fake shoes? Are there not fake clothes? Are there not fake products? Do u then close down all shoes because there are fake ones? Do u go naked because pple are wearing fake clothes?

Where are the nations that built their economy without "religion" today? How is spanish economy today? America started gravitating towards statehood and their economy started crumbling.

Someone said "what of china?" Are u blind? Can't u study history? Where are the soviet unions of those days? Where is the great berlin wall? Make no mistakes abt it, if china continues on the path of Godlessness, they will crumble.

Mark my words, the days of Paul Biya are numbered!

Lordlexy: HolyHolla, God richly bless for this insight. Education was accessible by the Christian missionary who entered Africa. Left for them, Africa still would have remain in darkness.

Lordlexy: HolyHolla, God richly bless for this insight. Education was accessible by the Christian missionary who entered Africa. Left for them, Africa still would have remain in darkness.

PAGAN 9JA:


OH cut the bullsh!T. just because they gave us a standard european form of education, does that mean we throw away our religious beliefs, cultures and ideologies. Is this the kid of exchange deal you are proposing. Learn from the coutnries of Asia fellow. dont talk rashly.

We had our own centres of education. THe point is , is our situation too good now? Its all a matter of timing and circumstance. You friend, might be having a roof over your head.

However because of the disruption of our system and its after-effects, there are millions of your fellow brothers and sisters in our country who can't even put together a square meal on their plate. Such was not so in the days of yore, when every mans capability was measured and put to effect by the tribe.

HolyHolla:

I see you don't even have enough knowlege of your traditional religion, my dear. Not all shrines of Ogun, (Idiigun in some other cultures) do not accept human blood. The historical Ogun accepted palm wine, palm oil and dog meat, but when offended, often asks for human blood. His worshippers also petition him to spill blood of their perceived enemies. Why do you think hunters are afraid of him if he does not. Motor drivers still worship him today to prevent their blood from being spilled on the road by the iron they drive.

I happen to come from a family where Ogun was worshipped long ago, and I know how he dealt treacherously with my grands. I'll rather be a slave of Jesus Christ who has elevated me beyond all such powers without asking for any fetish sacrifices.

You are yet to learn enough of history too, claiming your forefathers were peaceful. Did you ever read about the internecene wars fought among African, and particularly, Nigerian tribes before the Europeans came? It was a veritable means of enslavement and their slaves were the first of those sold to the whites before they started to capture on their own.

If your gods would not intervene to save us from the whites, then of what use were they? Even the "white slave masters" you referred to have now missed it and mixed it up. That's why their societies are declining into homosexuality, violence and waywardness. And you are there, "educating" people to follow their example and cut off the Living God who led them to greatness.

You are one of the few who still do not realize that most of our traditional religions were secret cults in nature. They still are, or why would a novice be told to stay at home when Oro or Agemo is outing? Did you learn of the traditional religionists that killed about 100 policemen in Northern Nigeria recently? What are they called? Open religious society or cult?

What have you achieved in life to claim that you contribute to society? If you were not there, how many would really miss you? When people like you are bereft of ideas, you resort to insults. There are many such like you insultive people who whenever they run out of ideas only show low pedigree on Nairaland. But I would rather be on same page with the ones who preach (even though, many still have so much difficulty in practicing) love and peace without demanding blood offerings than be with nobodies.

HolyHolla:

If I ever learn that any of these antichrists condemning the white man's religious ways wear Eurapean dresses, use European technology or even attend European oriented schools, I'll never take them serious again.

SO tommorrow if I buy samsung TV or mitsubishi car, I have to convert to Japanese religion

* IDI.OT

HolyHolla:

If I teach you to fish with hooks and nets and you later go to the pond trying to catch fish with your bare hands or a needle, is it that fishing is bad business, or my fault for teaching you my own workable style of fishing?

Mind you, Asians too are turning into Christians fast!!! You may want to learn from them.

PAGAN 9JA:



SO tommorrow if I buy samsung TV or mitsubishi car, I have to convert to Japanese religion

* IDI.OT

HolyHolla:

Another one of low pedigree who would not hesitate to boot his father up from an early morning sleep, calling someone idi-ot.

Do you realize that's why nobody in his real senses would take Boko Haram seriously? They 'haram' western education but use its benefits. I wish you would go back to your small erosion devastated farm in the village and wear your swaddling clothes and stop being ungrateful for the privilege given to you by the God of the Christians.

PAGAN 9JA:


YOu are too narrow to see the greater picture. DOn't you see how western Universities have now made us dependent on them and their models. TOday even a skilled man cannot get a decent job if he doesn't have a degree recognized from these foreign education councils. They have created a monopoly and made us dependant on them.

Atleast in the past we were independant and could earn at our whims!

Asians turning ino christians my foot. they just do it to cop western styles. half of them are not even serious.

A-ZeD:
I think we need something like this in Nigeria with the only difference being all religions should be banned.

HolyHolla:

I'm narrow enough to think deep and widely. If you don't narrow down your focus and you decide to generalize, you will just see only the mess the world is in, and miss out on the true developments contributed by many others.

Asians, Arabs, everyone, every tribe are getting wiser and seeking the Truth. Even if they are yet unserious, they have taken a first step to true independence.

PAGAN 9JA:



Dear Sir.

Actually I am confused now. what is your problem exactly?

When did we traditionalists reject western education and western technology. and even eastern technology? We just want to maintain our wisdom and belief system which is our IDENTITY!.

WOW SO YOU ARE SAYING ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY WAS GIVEN BY YOUR ILLITERATE GOAT DRIVING GOD CALLED JESUS?? LMFAO!!!!!


DOnt you know that none of this technology wouldve existed where it not for the Pagan forefathers who laid down the foundation concepts of Arithmatics, Maths, ALchemy (CHemistry) , medical science, bio, etc.

Scientists like EUclid, Pythagoras, Archimedes, etc., who were all PAGAN TRADITIONALISTS!

HolyHolla:

YOU, and people like you, who disparage other peoples' views and bully them into silence with your modernized gnosticism which you regard as paganism or atheism, are my problem.

The Egyptians started science, maths, astronomy and the rest. The westerners built on the foundations and gave us modernity, no matter how perverse it is. We should sift and take the good and dispose of the bad. But like Boko Haram, people like you sit there lazily and condemn everything not in line with your tradition, just because you have access to technology to express yourself. Does the world revolve around you? Does the world even know you? You'd better give your life to Jesus so you don't suffer poverty here on earth and repeat it in the hereafter.

PAGAN 9JA:


NO you are wrong SIr. YOu are missing the whole picture and you are ignoring everything that you feel contradicts your established mindset. A narrow mind is not something to be proud of.


The whites are now to blame for your joblessness after school while their own scholars easily find white and blue collar jobs in their own country as well as in yours? Why would a skilled man not set up his own business to perform his skills rather than wait for paid employment? Are the westerners still running your school curriculum? Why not prepare a good and custom made one for yourself rather than blame those who taught you to draw up school programs?


To begin with, the industrial revolution and the white mans invasion where 2 very artificial simultaneous events that have disrupted the natural a=workings and ecosystems of things. I have every reason to believe that the established order was destroyed from the day of christiaity's conception. Ever since then. the world has known no peace.

Everything you said above are questions that you must not ask me, but the colonial successor, i.e., the current regime of our Government because otherwise, you are just wasting time.


How were we independent in the days when our fathrers sold their own kith and kin into slavery in exchange for mirrors. If you were sold then, how much independence would you have? And why do you revert to the Jewish system of liberating slaves after the 7th year of Jubilee and claim it to be African? If it was, how come some families remain slaves all through their existence? I am from a royal family where history has it that my granny buried many slaves within his palace. It took the deliverance from the Blood of Jesus to set us free from the curses they rained on our generations. That's why I would rather be His slave now that He set me free. If you really want independence, come with me to the Lamb who was sacrificed once, and for ALL.

What nonsense is this? Your speaking as if the only thing our forefathers did was sell slaves. Please DO NOT LIE.

Our forefathers NEVER, EVER sold their own kith and kin into slavery. Slaves captured were usually ALWAYs from a foreing tribe. So don't blam our respective forefathers. What jewish system? Have you lost your mind? Everything you trace back to the jews. THe Pagan Romans used to free slaves before the Jews, and so did the Bedu Arab Tribesmen. African tribes also probably did it but we don;t have documented evidence. or maybe there is. Which families? AMong the Yorubas? *smh
It was the norm in the past across the world, for the efeated to be executed or enslaved. Except that the whites turned it into a concise business and did it extremely brutally, thereby breaking all norms.
WHy do you keep referring to the "Blood" of jesus. are you cannibal?

What has your jesus done to this world, except spread discord, hatred, genocide, destroy cultures, give birth to islam , etc. christianity is the cause of all of todays world problems.Whatever world problems we have today are just domino after-effects.



The only truth is what you perceive as truth. Every one speaks the truth in their own sphere. THerefore everyone must remain within their sphere.

THe one who tries to impose his truth upon another, will get buried under a series of lies.